Post-Game Thread: That's So Texans -- Ravens 34, Texans 28
by riversmccown on Dec 13, 2010 11:00 PM CST
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I take great pride in being an analyst above all else. The problem with that, in this case, is that you don't really need an analyst to tell you the problems with the Texans at this point. Every game is, as our blog tagline aptly notes, a roller coaster.
There's just nothing new to say about the Texans at this point on a macro level. They're a team with a good offense that struggles early in the game, a bad defense (albeit one that had its best game against a non-Rusty Smith led team tonight), and bad special teams. Writers have ran the joke about a Texans failure mad libs into the ground to the point where it's almost embedded in the heads of this team's fans that the Texans will lose any close game they played in.
So what do we have? A 5-8 team with four gutwrenching losses. But what do we really have? A team that doesn't change.
A team that continues to have problems blocking for its quarterback, a team that continues to shoot itself in the foot at inopportune times, a team that continues to allow 3rd-and-longs to be completed on it's defense with startling regularity, a team that bungles playcalls, a team that wastes timeouts left and right, a team that battles but comes up short. The script changes a bit from game-to-game, sure. Sometimes it isn't completely devastating, sometimes the defense plays a little better, sometimes the offense plays a little better.
I was a creative writing major. One of the things that they drill into our heads (yes, they teach us things in these classes!) is that to have a story, you need change.
The Texans are a team without a story. The Texans defy storylines. Gary Kubiak gets up to his post-game press conference every week and shrugs, says it's on him, and thanks the reporters. For a team with so many dramatic losses, both on the field and personnel-wise, you'd think that there would be a force enacting change on them from somewhere.
But there isn't. The Texans are just there. In a quasi-state of flux between good and bad. Waiting to see how they'll bungle the next close game they play.
I'm not surprised the pick was thrown, I'm not surprised the team lost. I just mouthed the words "That's so Texans," and started writing the hardest piece a writer can write: the one where you have no story.
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Well.. at least the defense didn't lose the game for once.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:01 PM CST reply actions
those early drives
were the direct result of bad field position from the O
KP
i hate this team.
"LoL
Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
by Salad on Dec 13, 2010 11:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lose the game?
they do don’t they?
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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i can agree, but the offense has had its fair share of losses.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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We do it ever game
We always start the 2nd half down 21 and go to the hurry up. You have been watching right?
;)
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I think he meant
why only the 4 quarter… I mean the offense does know we’re allowed to score tds in the first half right?
Throw a pick-6 to lose?
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
you mean fall asleep until we are three TD's down in the 2nd quarter?
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by distant_texans_fan on Dec 13, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Who's going to be the first
to start bitching about how we have no talent and need to get rid of everyone?
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
You, apparently.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm the one that's been blaming the position coaches
That’s it.
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
Yeah.
Calling passes when on your own 10 when your QB is getting gangrushed into the endzone and rushing throws when you have the best rusher in the NFL?
That’s on coaching.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Are you being sarcastic?
Because yeah, playcalls are on coaches.
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
No, I'm not being sarcastic.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
just making sure
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing...
perhaps I’m biased towards Schaub. But it’s the beginning of OT so you’re not worried about the clock, and their D is probably tired (#56 was receiving IV fluids on the freakin sideline at the end of regulation!! I’ve never seen that before!). And you’re backed up inside your 10. Why not run the ball on either 1st or 2nd down??!! Oh, we have the leading rusher in the friggin league? Really?
i want to know whos gonna be first and bitch about Matt
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
There's no verbiage in the Eglish Language that I know of
That could describe how pissed off I am.
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It is all Favre's fault
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:02 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I seriously had just said...
“Why are we still chucking it around? No need to hurry up with passes.”
Soon as I said it….soon as I goddamn said it…..
For Fuck’s Sake.
"Lord, beer me strength."
ha! I said the same thing
saw the formation, thought “c’mon Foster run…shit!”
We should of ran the ball, there was no reason to hurry, but oh well guys
they gave us more hope then screwed us up. Story of the season.
yep I was at the game too and I said to myself
we should run the ball here and next play game over
Agreed we only have the best rusher in the NFL
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60 + passes
it was bound to happen
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Kubiak will tell us
It was because our hurry up scored all those points so he went with what was working.
We all know we should’ve ran the ball at least some. But whatever…..what’s done is done.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
They were probably thinking
Why change what’s worked for the past 5 possessions?…. Problem is the game situation changed how the Ravens would play defense so it was kind of silly to think you could do the exact same thing with the exact same results when the other team is defending it completely different.
i'm dead on the inside
and i have finals tomorrow… i think im gonna get in a car crash…
When will the Texans get a real Head Coach?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
2013 when kubes contract is out.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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And outsmarted himself again.....
as others have said, we have the NFL’s leading rusher, he hadn’t been shutdown tonight that I know of and we??wait for it???pass every play. WTF?!
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
He still makes the same dumb mistakes
Needed to save the timeouts, 4th and 2 and he can’t get a play in! Wastes a timeout….same old story. You don’t see real head coaches make those blunders. And, don’t tell me Mike Singletary is a real head coach.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
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He got a play in.
Schaub didn’t hear it.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Ummm, what? Did they hold the presser already?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
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Nope.
But when Schaub puts his hands on his helmet, indicating he can’t hear, then calls a time-out, I’m inclined to assume that was the case.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
The radio announcers weren't saying that at all
They were saying that the sideline coaches have to get the play in. They said that Kubiak was calling the plays and relaying them to the QB Coach, whose name I do not know and he was sending the plays in and Kubiak wasn’t getting the play called. That’s what I heard.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
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So who's right on this
I would like to know. Any update?
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they showed the replay
when it happened, and Matt was holding his hands over his ears, then started shaking his head and throwing his hands up in the hand, then called the timeout. Looked like an equipment malfunction.
Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.
Apparently, according to Kuharsky,
The radio receiver in Schaub’s helmet wasn’t working entirely….it would cut out.
What’s unclear, at least in his writing, is who exactly was calling the plays: Schaub or Kubiak with hand signals. Also, when did this start occurring wasn’t addressed…although the article suggests it was a game-long problem.
What is clear: The radio wasn’t working.
"Lord, beer me strength."
FIRE THE EQUIPMENT GUY!!!
BURN HIS HOUSE!!!
KILL HIS PETS!!!
CAST ASPERSIONS AT HIS LINEAGE!!!
(“…and I shall taunt you once again!”)
"velocitas eradico"
by DilloTex on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Cast aspersions at his lineage
lol
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Blast...
Are you saying we can’t blame this on Kubiak, then? Rip will be furious. But wait! Maybe Kubiak hired the equipment guy! That makes him accountable, right?
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Fans not knowing to be quiet when your team has the ball.
Or bad equipment.
Either way, not Kubes/Schaub’s fault.
"Lord, beer me strength."
That's another thing...
2 minute drill. Uh, no timeouts. Whoops.
well...
been nice de-lurking with you folks tonight. Classic Texans game
I don't have words for this
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Dec 13, 2010 11:04 PM CST reply actions
There are no words for this.
none
"LoL
Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
That doesn't do it justice.
It just doesn’t
"LoL
Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
"Eternal suffering"
Does that do it?
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Oh god please let it not be eternal.
Ill go to the homeless shelter every weekend.
But i cant handle this every week.
Vinzzinni for the MFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Ravens will expect us to come out running so we’ll pass instead.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
I'm numb to this. The Q-tip did me in a few weeks back.
All i can say is that we tried, came so fucking close, but yeah. almost had it guys
Q actually played a pretty decent game tonight.
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I can't even focus on the positives.
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Why am I even wasting my time responding to a "Salad". Ugh. Yeah… shit team"
I agree
I really thought he was going to win it for us
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Im sorry. Im sure Kubes is going to be a great coach in denver.
But something has to change.
Wow tough loss for you guys tonight. Great comeback though.
Look forward to watching you guys kick our asses sunday
Ditto
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
I respect you guys fanbase. YOur first years were not easy but you still supported them
Instead of jumping ship to Dallas lol
by TitansJonne on Dec 13, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Most of detest the cowturds.....
and couldn’t even THINK about going that way while Houston didn’t have a team…..so those people are for durn sure not going to jump ship….even when things are going so badly.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
From your mouth to God's ear...
Look forward to watching you guys kick our asses sunday
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
Kubiak isn't going to be gone, you see this offense that just brought us back?
Yeah, that goes with him. He will stay but we will get a whole new defensive staff.
1st-half would have been similar...
If people could catch and tackle.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
REALLY?
I’m honestly not trying to be an ass when I ask this but please elaborate.
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You have to give him credit
for getting his guys to fight to the bitter end time and time again. You also have to give him credit for the team constantly going into an early hole.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
this
If we won all the games this year that were winnable, we’d be 11-2.
This is only relevant because if that were the case, our team would still suck for 1/2 a game, still have the same defensive woes, but we would have found a way to win, and Kubiak would be an excellent coach. He. Just. Wins.
But we don’t.
We have all those problems, and we find a way to lose. The opposite is possible also.
We just lose.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Hell...
If the Colts play their starters against the Jets last year, Kubiak would have been the proud coach of a playoff team despite having done nothing differently! Funny how results matter more than actions, ain’t it?
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Kubiak and I
have no control over the other teams in the NFL or even our division.
Yup, if the BE-SFs, Colts and Jags all lose every game they play, we win the division, through no fault of Kubiak.
If Kubiak manufactures some wins from our losses, we can also make the playoffs. Which one of these two scenarios makes Kubiak better or worse as a coach, speaking only to the results?
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Give a reason to blame it on him then?
He usually mismanages the clock, calls bad plays etc. We may not have executed in the first half or on ST, but little blame can be attributed directly to Kubes (though he is HC so he takes blame for any loss)
He blew a timeout in the 2nd half
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
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by Rip Jersey on Dec 13, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That didn't exactly lose us the game
at all
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Probably blew more than that...
when you on a game tying drive and have no timeouts.
Actually
This was an amazing game
Very entertaining – the Texans showed they have fight -
I did enjoy the game – just not the end. I love the Texans, I hate the outcome of this game.
If anyone blames Schaub – don’t forget he brought the team back into the game – despite the fact that his receivers as a whole sucked for a large part of the game (except Dre of course)
We just need to figure out how to play a whole game – the only shortfall in common with last year
Kudos to Schaub, Kudos to Dre, Kudos to Foster, and yes, Kudos to our D. I think they earned the D tonight
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:07 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
Totally agree
Schaub carried the team on his back in the 2nd half. He deserves some respect.
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by distant_texans_fan on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions
uhm....
We just need to figure out how to play a whole game – the only shortfall in common with last year
And the 8 years prior to that…..
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
Found this on the Baltimore Blog...rings more true than I want to admit.
“I’m starting to think I’d prefer Bruce AriansANYONE over Cam Cameron Kubiak. I feel like I’m stuck in a bad marriage and my wife keeps making the same disgusting meatloaf every night and I don’t want to hurt her feelings and tell her she’s a fat pig who can’t cook to save her life, but I’m having trouble avoiding that inevitability.”
We’re not the only ones, my friends.
It's amazing how similar each fan base is after a win and loss.
It’s fun to read through each one.
"Lord, beer me strength."
nothing to do now
but watch Foster break all the franchise records. Which will be fun
Texans have the #1 rusher in the NFL
Shaub had 62 PASS ATTEMPTS.
SIXTY. TWO.
That is just plain insane.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:09 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, lets just run the fucking ball..
when we are DOWN SO MUCH FUCKING POINTS. Schaub brought us back fool
by fgp on Dec 13, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
THANK YOU
For explaining this, running=eating up clock that we don’t have because we are always down
Point.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Though I do point to well over half the populace of BRB
saying to run the ball through the entire game.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Foster had over 100 yards rushing
in a game we were down by 3 TDs. I don’t see how ppl are complaining about not running enough. We had a limited amount of time to score points.
Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.
To be fair..
OT only had 2 of those 62 pass attempts.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
2 plays, 2 passes...
to a tired, beat up defense.
It is hard to go away from what worked
For the last 10 minutes of the game
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Foster was
only averaging 5 yards per carry, couldn’t risk handing the ball off
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 13, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Head esplodes....
averaging 5yrds a carry…..that equals two runs for a 1st down…..can’t risk running it?
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Another reason why kubiak will not be fired is that the players are still fighting and continue fighting,
otherwise we wouldn’t have even been close to being in this game. The players want him to stay, they are doing all that they can to keep it that way. We just have soo much bad fucking luck, its unreal.
Let's mention piss poor clock management as well as a "don't hurry up" O.
Not the players fault. That’s coaching and management.
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there is no bad luck
you make your own. If jacoby had caught that touchdown pass earlier in the game, we would have won.
1 of 2 things are wrong with this team, it’s either a) coaching or b) a lack of talent.
pick one, because some has to go to fix this problem.
I don’t buy that we’ve lost all of these games because we were unlucky.
how about both? Especially for the D.
Bad coaching and lack of talent in the secondary. First half offensive woes was on the recievers from my point of view at least
still don't understand why we didn't run the ball
their defense is tired, and we could push them all over the field
we shoulda ran the ball in OT insted of still passing so yall can say what yall want but the kubiak lost this game not the team
by TheBookOfOlu on Dec 13, 2010 11:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
bad playcalling happens we should of ran the ball
by TheBookOfOlu on Dec 13, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Or "should've"
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by distant_texans_fan on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM CST up reply actions
Wrong thinking
You go with the horse that brung ya
That was the passing game – Baltimore didn’t have an answer the whole 4th qtr
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
They didn't have an answer
Because they were playing a very relaxed zone shell most of the second half trying to keep the ball in front of them and win the game with the clock… In OT they changed their coverage and we were still running routes that really only work against cover2 defenses…
I defend Kubiak to the teeth, and even in this case I wouldn’t say he cost us the game (I don’t think there’s ever been a flawlessly coached game in NFL history), but I do think in hindsight even he would tell you they should have attacked the defense differently in OT.
The person I blame for that INT
Is none other than my own personal hate magnet, Jacoby Jones. The Ravens defender who intercepted the ball came in from well behind Jacoby, if Jones had tried as hard as the Raven did to get the ball, at the very least it would have been an incompletion. His QB is in trouble and can’t find an open receiver so throws it in his direction, and Jones just kinda sits back and watches the ball to see if it magically floats into his hands. If only he worked as hard getting that ball as he did the one he stole from Johnson….
It wasn’t just Jones though, throughout the game it seemed to me that the only time any Texans receiver not named Andre Johnson was open, it was because Andre took 2-3 defenders with him on his route. We have to do better running routes than that, it’s ridiculous to have your entire passing offense hinge on one receiver either getting open or clearing space for others… and that’s not to mention the eight or nine dropped passes on the night.
I'd blame the drops more
I think if those guys make those grabs, we wouldn’t be complaining about the other guys not getting open.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 6:48 AM CST up reply actions
Umm
I’ve seen the replay several times today and every time I could have sworn he was behind Jones and ran past him as Jacoby kept running towards the sideline… Every time I see it I do my Jacoby hate dance…. It’s like Jacoby Jones is a mindless avatar on some football video game and just runs his route regardless of circumstance on that play… Dude runs past him and he’s just like “Wonder what that guy’s doing? Oh well, at least i’m running my route correctly all is right with the wo… WTF how’d he just intercept that ball!?!”
Although
It was probably more like “wut he do? I good all good, omgwtf int rofl for reals that aint cool”… But I have a hard time writing Jacoby.
As I watch it again right now
Wilson broke off the outside receiver (in front of Jacoby) to snatch it in front of Jacoby, who was cutting toward the sideline, and ran it back.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Are you sure?
I could have sworn the outside receiver and his defender were both deeper than Jones… Either way though, Schaub was throwing to Jones and the defender ran in front of him to intercept the ball with Jacoby continuing his sideline route like a drone…
Arguing depth isn’t the point, the point is he was within range to compete for the ball if he went for it, but instead continued his route waiting for the ball to drop in his arms… You get yelled at as a receiver if you do that in H.S. football, so i’m pretty sure he should have come back to the ball and tried to catch it at its highest point as they teach from peewee level onwards, that’s what the corner did and why he got the interception while Jones was still finishing his perfect out pattern. For someone who plays receiver as a job… that’s not good man.
I'm fairly sure
Wilson, post-game, said he recognized the play as one Houston ran earlier (which Schaub also confirmed in his own post-game comments).
Jacoby will be an interesting free agent decision. It’ll probably go a ways towards telling how they feel about Dorin’s progress.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I just found a video of it
If you pause it as soon as the camera pans and you see the defender start to jump on the ball, Jacoby was at the 12 yard line, the offending corner, Wilson, was at the 14… which would of course make him behind Jacoby…
I can see how it was close enough to miss though, he started out closer to Jones than I thought… but still Jacoby should have made a play on the ball.
To continue the Jacoby bashing
Because he was cutting straight across the field, if Wilson hadn’t jumped the route, the ball would have met Jacoby between the ankle and knees more likely… with that many bodies in that little bit of space, it was dang near retarded not to take an angle back towards the LoS and meet the ball high, he was more or less begging the defense to make a play on the ball.
When I saw Wilson jump that route
I knew it was over. Then proceeded to wonder why our CB’s can’t do that.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
Glover Quin appears to be starting to do that...
Seriously, a lot of respect for GQ…I would have understood if he had cracked, but he’s really turned his game around.
"Lord, beer me strength."
He did play a great game.
To play with that much confidence in your second year after everything that’s happened to you, against a pro-bowl caliber WR?
That’s the good stuff.
Now if we can only get Jackson to do the same.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
Or
Failing that, if only we can get a DC who can disguise our weaknesses.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
We need to play bump and run more
That play against Boldin where he was all up in his grill…. loved it.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Something else I started to notice.....
the CB’s were only 2yrds off the receivers at the LoS and had their hips square to the receiver.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Kubiak didn't drop every other pass in the first half
The play calling was fine. Execution sucked, as usual.
I've seen losses that can be placed directly at Kubiak's feet
This wasn’t one of them IMO.
Thats way short of an "epic" fail
not even close. We were in it, all the way. And proved as much.
Nothing epic about that fail.
Being that close to an epic win
and failing to get an epic win.. counts as an epic fail.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
No, it was TOTALLY an epic fail. In EVERY sense of the word.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
nah
if we were to lose, say 59-0 to go 0-6, for example, that would be epic.
I agree that this hurts, but the team didn’t fail epically or otherwise.
I think Baltimore has more talent and shoulda won. The fact that we can’t tackle anyone and sent the game to overtime? I call it a success from everyone not paid to coach a defensive player.
Defense only gave up 21? Is that right? Wow.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
I'll always be a texans fan.
We gave it our all and that’s all i can ever ask from this team. If we lose, we lose with guns blazing without a fight. That is all i can ever ask for from my team as a fan, that my team tries their best week in and week out.
by fgp on Dec 13, 2010 11:13 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
how about give it your all and fuckin win!!!!!!!! fuck
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
rec'd
same here – our time will come.
KP
Well at least we won't see it on SportsCenter.
Not with Favre-a-palooza and Cliff Lee back to the Phils.
Yeah that's pretty insane
Lee, Halliday, Oswalt, and Hamels?
by goingforthecorner on Dec 13, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, you get to listen to Favre talk for 30 minutes.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Normally he makes me mad...
NOw he is just depressing me.. or maybe its the beer mixed with the game
Matt Schaub
As a falcons fan watching tonights game, I was just wonder what you all think of Matt Schaub? Knowing we gave him away when we thought we did not need him, I was just curious
read above comment.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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Depends on what specific plays you want to talk about......
One minute he’s our savior and the next he’s giving the game away. But then again, that’s the story of our whole team so it’s kinda hard to say……they hate to love us, and we love to hate them.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
on my last note of the night before i head out to study for a stats exam:
fuck Schaub. an average QB and and average head Coach will only leave to average seasons. Schaub puts up great numbers, but any average QB could with Andre Johnson. i am not on a “fire Schaub” wagon, but i am on a “get a young QB who we can coach up wagon” because we WILL NOT win with Schaub and his one or two picks a game. it wont happen. even with an average defense 2 picks every game is fucking this team over. so i wanted to explain myself in full before i headed out. goodnight, and good luck with all of your Clorox induced comas.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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he threw the ball
60 times. He was under durress, in the end zone. It was try to make a play, or take the safety.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
no
thats a stupid fucking opinion. Not to each their own. The guy plays his fucking heart out, has a 2nd half for the ages, and its HIS fault? Fuck that fucking noise in the fucking heart.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
by nolander on Dec 13, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
Fuck that fucking noise in the fucking heart.
I don’t think that’s physically possible.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
Do our fans not get it, or something?
Seems like we had 3-4 miscues in the end-zone this game.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not gonna waste my time debating Matt Schaub
Most of his stats are top-ten this year….he’s one of the most accurate passers in NFL history……he’s one of a handful of QBs who have thrown 3,000 yds/90+ QB Rating for 3 straight seasons…….dude’s legit. All of it speaks for itself.
Someone wants to disagree fine….that speaks for itself.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Dec 13, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I agree
Anyone watching the game last night could see that the Texans comeback consisted mostly of Schaub putting the team on his shoulders. He was moving around in the pocket doing everything he could to buy time for one of his receivers to finally get open (usually A.J.). And for a guy who has never been known for having a rocket arm, he was throwing missiles last night, throwing the ball through windows you could barely even see.
Whether it was all-time great or not, I think Schaub played about as well as he possibly can, and in the end it generated like 5 straight scoring possessions… Should he have just chucked the ball as hard as he could off the field? In hindsight, maybe… but as was said earlier if he had gotten an intentional grounding in the end zone it would have been a safety and game over… I think he tried to make the best of a crappy situation and (surprise!) got crappy results. It happens to the best of QBs sometimes, doesn’t take away from the fact that he nearly carried the team to a comeback of historic porportions.
Uh.. you do realize
the Ravens had absolutely no pass rush and were running on empty, right?
It’s easy to ‘play your fucking heart out’ when you can sit in the pocket for 10+ seconds.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that totally just happened
without any help from schuab of course.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I seriously love you right now.
Will you marry me?
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
I'm delirious enough
to consider it right now
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Preach it man
Yes, it was teh Schaub’s dumb ass throw that cost us the game, but that doesn’t take away from a gutsy ass performance that put us in OT in the first place.
I can understand the hate that’s being thrown his way because we have to blame someone, and he’s the logical choice. However, there’s no way I can discount the fact that he helped us claw our way back in it again.
Is he clutch? I dunno….probably not right now, but people forget it took some of the greatest a long time to get there. Just think about how many game losing INT’s that his majesty Brett Favre has thrown in his career…..to lose NFC Championships I might add.
Just sayin
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The problem with Schaub
is he is a good QB, but not a great one. He is excellent under pressure and he is bad under pressure. What I mean is he is excellent when the game is on the line and you need a man to lead the offense. He is the kind of guy who wants to win so bad, he wants the ball in his hands. He is bad under pressure, as in PASS RUSH pressure. If they get to his face, he panics. Thats when he throws all those intentional groundings, the picks, gives up the sack/fumble, or can’t scramble for a short first down because he’s slow. If his first couple reads arent there, he doesnt know what to do and him scrambling is nearly always going to be an incompletion. That being said he is good enough to lead a good offense and with just a mediocre defense and special teams, Schaub would be capable of leading a playoff team.
Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.
A lot of quarterbacks don't fare well with pressure
That’s just how it is.
"Lord, beer me strength."
If I have a 300lb freak of nature
running full speed towards me, I wouldn’t fare well either.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
BFD?
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by distant_texans_fan on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I know
that why I say he is a good QB, but will probably never be a great or elite one. His panic mistakes are fustrating, but he is good enough to win if the rest of the team was at least mediocre.
Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.
Schaub brought the team back
The “logic” to say we need a new QB is seriously flawed
Schaub did extremely well considering most of the receivers dropped a lot of catchable passes.
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
YEAH FUCK SCHAUB!!! ONT 393 PASSING YARDS!!! ONLY 3 TDS!!! WHAT A LOSER!!!!!!!
TOTAL FAIL!!!!!! FUC SCHAUB!!!
whatever
by WhiskeyR on Dec 13, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
The difference between Schaub and Seyton is
When Seyton fucks up he completely accepts responsibility for his shortcomings and you know he is going to work diligently to fix the problem. When Schaub fucks up “the defender just made a play” or “the o-line wasn’t blocking well enough” or “he had no choice but to throw that pick 6”.
Seyton is accountable for his own actions, while there is always an endless line of excuses from Schaub and some fans.
except
this was on the playcalling. safety in endzone = game over too.
KP
I agree, the playcalling was terrible.
Still, results are results. There were lots of factors to Peyton’s terrible couple of games but he didn’t make excuses. The analysts didn’t make excuses, I don’t think the fans made excuses but I dunno. I think Deion Sanders said it best, “if you’re going to give him credit for the wins you have to give him credit for the losses as well”.
There he is! What kept you?
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Dec 13, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
Next you are going to tell me
he isn’t a good QB cause you can see fear in his eyes, and he sweats too much.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
No i'm not.
I’ve never said he’s not good, he’s just not a top 5 QB. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I don’t like the guy but there’s no reason why this team can’t succeed with him, I wouldn’t call for him to be cut or anything like that.
I just find it funny that every week he does the same exact thing and every week you make the same exact excuses.
Trying not to give up a safety isn't an excuse
its reality
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
What he was trying to do is really irrelevant
the final result was a pick 6.
Like I said, I completely agree the playcalling was terrible. I’m just not going to sit here and pretend like the guy did absolutely nothing wrong. Accountability is an important thing, without it you end up making the same mistakes over and over again.
I find it funny
toolshed you have been quite the past couple of weeks you know since schaub hasn’t thrown many interceptions the past couple of weeks, but then all of a sudden he throws two in a game and you are back at the schaub hate… Dude except it Schaub is top ten QB if not Top 5. He tries to force throws in there and gets picked off yeah. Why is it when Brett Favre throws as many INTs as TDs everyone is still willing to call him a great QB? I dont think Favre has ever been a great QB he is an Average QB at best. But Schaub is a damn good QB, and he showed his mobility and versatility this game, I don’t care what the Ravens fans say about their D being gassed, and tired, that is a cop out for your team can’t handle full games. Yeah the Texans haven’t handled a single full game except the first win against the colts. But the Texans are a second half team apparently. I am just tired of reading your hate about schaub, go blow Mittens!
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Favre has had some great, great years. MVP years.
Schaub hasn’t had anything like that, yet. But, I think your point is that every QB throws interceptions. Every QB has thrown them at exactly the wrong time and lost games. Farve is no exception, because sometime you have to push the limits and sometimes you push it too far.
I think last night, perhaps at that point of the game, the game plan should have stayed balanced. And, it might have stayed balanced if the Texans didn’t turn it over. We will never know.
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I tend to think of Schaub as a poor man's Favre.
He makes the same stupid decisions, except he has a noodle for an arm. 90% of the time he won’t run for a first down even if the nearest defender is 20 yards away. He seems to have all of the negatives of Favre with none of the positive and none of the achievements.
Your logic on why I havent been posting makes no sense
He played pretty poorly in Philly if you haven’t forgotten that game. I stopped posting because I got a bit tired of all of the hypocrisy on this board. Everyone wants to shit on certain players when they fuck up and yet it seems criminal here to point out any mistake Matt Schaub has ever made. Every single week he does something stupid and every single week there is someone here willing to completely strip him of of accountability.
No one can ever just admit that he has made a mistake. It’s always an excuse and a description of the circumstances. Where are the excuses for when Antonio Smith jumps offsides? Where are the excuses when Eugene Wilson misses a tackle? Where are the excuses when Arian Foster tries that swim move with the ball still in his hand and fumbles? Where are the excuses when Pollard blows a coverage?
oh and btw
He really only threw one pick, I don’t see how you can possibly blame him for OD dropping the ball.
To be fair...
People are usually pretty understanding with Antonio Smith, because he does contribute in a positive way. But Eugene Wilson? You’re not going to find anybody making excuses for a guy who is completely shitty, every minute of every game.
I’m usually critical of Schaub, and I don’t think you’ll find anybody who didn’t scream out “shithead!”, or something along those lines when he threw that pick. But when you step back and evaluate the game, Schaub played well. Can’t let one awful decision overshadow several great throws.
Why?
To me a game losing pick six clearly overshadows several “great” throws. Coming back means absolutely nothing if you still lose the game.
Also I want to be clear because I can see the cookie cutter responses flooding in, “oh so you’re saying we should have drafted VY?” and stuff of that nature. Schaub is not the problem with this team and I have never claimed that he should be cut or replaced or anything like that. I’d probably draft a QB soon so we could have something in in place for the future but as far as right now goes I’m fine with Schaub as the QB.
But i’m not going to pretend like he doesn’t fuck something up every single game when he does, i’m not going to pretend like he has a cannon arm when he doesn’t, and I’m not going to pretend he’s a top 5 QB when he clearly isn’t.
by Toolshed1 on Dec 14, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
thank you.
this was wonderfully worded. and i couldn’t agree more.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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I am pissed off
As soon as the game is over it is all Favre
Please!!!!
This was one of the most exciting MNF games all year! And you go to Favre saying aw shucks
Get a life ESPN!
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:15 PM CST reply actions
NFL Network
Is already playing the Giants/Viks game…..nothing on us for tomorrow.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
OMG I'M OFFENDED
YOU’RE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST WEAK PEOPLE!
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
YOU mean our coaching staff?
Yeah I have no problem offending them.
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OMG I'M OFFENDED
YOU’RE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE THAT DON’T LIKE TO OFFEND PEOPLE!
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Or defend, take your pick.
THE METRODOME! Another fine product brought to you by Frank Bush Engineering, Construction, and Design LLC. 100% Guaranteed to collapse under pressure.
My problem is on the DC
he did enough in the 2nd half to make the game competitive. Did he do enough to save his job? Or did he figure out how to run the efense? Did we turn a corner tongiht?
At least we put up a good show for the MNF game
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by distant_texans_fan on Dec 13, 2010 11:17 PM CST reply actions
If we did, it doesn't matter anymore, we are pretty much outta contention.
only wish he would of figured it out sooner.
Very good question
Has Bush finally learned that we NEED to blitz out the ass in order to have a chance on D especially with Mario hurting so bad? Or did he do enough to save his job only to go back to the same bullshit next year?
The answer is no, he did not figure it out
This is par for the course this year. Give up a bunch in the first half, play lights out for some of the second half.
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Dec 13, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
How about that defense though
especially considering that this was without Demeco, Barwin, and Mario didn’t even register a single tackle!
by goingforthecorner on Dec 13, 2010 11:18 PM CST reply actions
ESPN
A ton of little segments on Favre and the Vikings for about an hour.
Then a brief mention of this game.
Calling it.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I said taht above
Screw ESPN and Trent Dilfer Talking about Favre
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
"Let's send it to Houston for more word on Favre"
What the fuck?
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say Acceptance.
Some are still in Depression though.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Can I be in
Anger, depression and denial at the same time?
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
make that enial
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What's next?
Drano?
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by Hydroshock on Dec 13, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Is there a stage for...
“FUUUUUUUUUUUCK”
?
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
after a loss
i just go straight to acceptance
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
I'm in vacillation.....
between depression and acceptance.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
I've been at acceptance ever since the Jags game.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
According to ESPN
Favre
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
A hope for a team.
THE METRODOME! Another fine product brought to you by Frank Bush Engineering, Construction, and Design LLC. 100% Guaranteed to collapse under pressure.
Turning off the BFON now.
Brett Favre Orgy Network
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:23 PM CST reply actions
Nice Playcalling Again Kubiak you Tard
Way to open up overtime with a near intentional grounding safety to end the game, then an ill advised pick six.
Where was our 5 yard per carry RB at Kubiak you moron. No need to be in a hurry.
FIRE KUBIAK NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Generally, teams run in the end-zone to get space--often for a punt.
Because a punt, then consequently surrendering a field-goal in regulation is better than a safety or a pick-six. In NFL overtime though, you don’t have the luxury of playing for field-position when you’re backed up in your own end-zone. You have to move the ball.
Also, you might recall the last possession they had in their own end-zone started with a 20-yard play-action pass. I didn’t hear anyone bitching about not running the ball when that went down.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Kub’s playcalling is directly related to 6 of Houston’s 8 losses. If he would keep the ball on the ground 75-80% of the time, winning would come with ease, despite a pourous defense
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
75-80%?
You don’t really get it, do you?
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Schaub
Regardless of the last play, schaub was on point. He has been for the last 2 years. No need to get rid of him any time soon. The only concern I have is that we’re wasting away the golden years for our triplets (except Foster). Just wondering how much hell we as Houston fans have to go through before we get to enjoy some winning. The BESFs and now the Texans? I agree that it seems like we’re cursed
He's got to put our team on his back and take some chances
not Schaub’s fault.
He is one of the best things we have going for this team. He put us in the game.
Against
a gassed Ravens D where he had zero pressure on him and receivers were getting way open.
You saw what happened when the Ravens D actually got back the energy. Shaub returning to old habits, dropping back into the endzone, and rushing a throw which results in a game-losing INT-TD.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
That fourth quarter was probably the best I’ve seen Schaub play. He was unreal.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
Concur with the exception there was that one play
He had a clear line to the FD and he chose to sit back and throw the ball rather than ducking his head. I get that he’s not the most durable nor the most mobile. But, at the same time everybody on the team has to take a hit. It was 3 yards for crying out loud my 84 year old grandma could have done that in her walker. Shaub will be a big boy when he accepts that he’s gonna get hit occassionally.
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Someone might need to talk Schaub off of a ledge.
He looks pretty upset.
I'm not even sure where we go from here
Offense… we need Kubiak because on offense he gets it done. If we fired him, can we keep the same offense? Is Schaub the same QB without Kubiak?
Defense… we need a total coaching overhaul. We have the personnel. We step up sometimes. But we need a real coach here.
Special teams… what happened? Is it the wedge block rule? Didn’t we do fine after that? We have no good returns… but we give up a TD on ST. Proves to be crucial.
ST used to be a strength
But you’re right, it’s not any more and too often it hurts us now.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
East and west vs north and south (Jones). "Fuck no I ain't running it from here" Slaton.
THE METRODOME! Another fine product brought to you by Frank Bush Engineering, Construction, and Design LLC. 100% Guaranteed to collapse under pressure.
Kub doesn’t get anything done on offense. If he would, Houston would win despite a bad defense.
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
McNair
The only thing I hate is that this gives ammo for McNair to keep Kubiak
Only for the rest of the season. Not enough for next year, his defense is what killed us the whole season.
One decent games doesn’t do anything
They really didn't
One game is not enough evidence. They only let up 21…. but its pathetic for us to be happy about that (other teams may AVERAGE that).
Our D sucks. They gave us a chance tonight, but its 1 of 16 games. Many other times they screwed us.
GQ had a great game though and that is very promising.
Not shutdown; just "good".
And hell, even if he’s mediocre, he’s leaps and bounds beyond anybody else on the roster.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Cushing was a beast to
though he let Ray rice juke him a few times, for the most part he was gritty and back to ’09 form…
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
If there's a lockout.....
at least I don’t have to care who coaches us for that much longer.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Replace him with whom?
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
Effing anyone. I’ll take Wade Phillips in a heartbeat.
How about Archie Bunker? He’s smart enough to know not to pass the ball too much when the way to win the game is to run the ball with AF and control the clock and keep opposing offenses off the field. Any moron in a Lazy Boy can figure that out. But it keeps baffling Kubiak. He’s an idiot.
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
Please
Give a reasonable response. I know this is a bad time, but the team came back. He did a good job of coaching in the game. You want the idiot Gruden? Did you hear his assinine comments? Wade Phillips? A guy that had a more talented team and took them to a worse record – yeah that is smart
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
Gruden needs to be permanently muted, lol.
Kub did a horrible job coaching the game. Houston went down early like they did because of horrendous playcalling on offense. Did you sleep through that part of the game?
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, calling the plays were OD drops those passes on purpose and Jacoby as well?
Damn, Kubiak, what was going through your head?
I saw dropped passes...
And an underthrown bomb that would have gone for a TD if it were on the money.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
No doubt more dropped passes than usual in this one.
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Fixed
He isn’t, defense Frank Bush is.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
by Joe25 on Dec 13, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yet he hired Frank Bush.
Thus, Frank Bush’s failure accrues to him.
Frank Bush delenda est
Hopefully we pick up some decent corners/safeties in the offseason.
Gotta say though
Schaub,Quin,Pollard,Cushing,Andre, and Foster had a badass game.
Agree with all but Cushing
The last couple of minutes he played well, the rest of the game he was MIA
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
BULLSHIT! IT mattered from the first whistle.
Sorry. Just angry.
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Screen pass earlier in the game mattered...
He overpursued, and instead of a punt, the Ravens wound up with a TD on that drive. Few nice plays later on, but pretty lousy overall.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
He took himself out of plays all game
Too little too late
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
Bullshit
6 tkls 4 asst 1.5 sacks
For crying out loud. Give credit where credit is do. I know y’all are pissed but Cushing was not the problem.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
There was one play in the 4th
where he rushed up the middle and pushed the lineman back like 5 yards and into Flacco’s space. I don’t remember if it was a sack or not but it was the most impressive thing I’ve seen from our d all year.
by BrownCrayon on Dec 14, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Disagree
He was big for most of the game, his plays were just more of an impact in the 2nd half.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Pollard had a great game because he blitzed most of the time
he was basically a LB tonight blitzing from the sides, which is something I wish they would do more often, hes strong against run, bad against pass, so dont put him into coverage
Are you saying that blitzing is a good thing? What a concept
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I’m proud he didn’t get any big penalties, lol
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
I've been crying for this all season
Since he can’t cover to save his life, blitz his ass off the edge. He’s a big hit guy so he can do a lot of damage on a QB.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
It's amazing how many people have been saying this all season long
And our coaching staff finally figured it out when it’s too late.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
Against a team that notoriously struggles against it.
It’s not a coincidence.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
Are you saying it was good coaching on Bush's part?
Sorry bro, I can’t wrap my head around that idea right now. I’ll get back to you tomorrow.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I'm saying...
That blitzing doesn’t work every time. They keyed in on a major weakness, and took advantage of a QB who isn’t smart/mature enough to assign blitz pick-ups. Try that against Manning and see how it works out for ya.
or they are realizing
our defense would be better at 46???? isn’t this what i have been asking for all season… I thought nolan did decent for most of the game. and We need to get rid of the stupid 10 yd cushion.
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
or if jacoby catches that td
we win KC style
KP
careful
people will start blaming JJ for the whole game
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
fair enough,
he made up for it after that, i was proud of that. that snag for the 2pc was sick. i think this game is as true as any – win and lose as a team.
KP
A lot of people are afraid that good defensive performances will save Bush's job...
But I think my greatest fear is that if Jacoby finishes the season strong, he’ll be on the team next year.
Just say no!
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
I still want a WR drafted in the 3rd
enough is enough Andre can’t be the only WR that shows up
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Considering
We have basically never had Dickerson play a passing down in regular season – do we need another?
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
DA???
every time I see him play and get the ball he has performed.. and I couldn’t believe my eyes schaub remembered K-dub was on the team. we have receivers that show up they are just overlooked a lot of the time.
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
And who's fault does that lie on?
I concur that the boys on the other end of the pass couldn’t catch in the first half, fault, players. But at the same time, if the guys aren’t catching, give the rock to the leagues leading rusher, fault, coaching.
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You can think Kub for poor game calling for that. Passing the ball too much.
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
His vagina was quivering in fear.
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He had a great game
Who would you want Rape-less-berger?
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Recap up.
Refresh if you’d like.
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by riversmccown on Dec 13, 2010 11:37 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
damn son
recap was perfect today. well done. exactly what im thinking right now.
KP
conclusions drawn:
1. definitely fire frank bush. even i can call blitzes on every play in the second half. cant wait till mario gets healthy and we have a competent free safety
2. as much as OD killed us tonight with teh two drops, he really helped spread the field and is worth so much to this offense
3. whoever called those pass plays in OT needs to go. if it was kubiak, then im all for him leaving, cuz thats inexcusable. yes we killed them with passing in the 4Q, but this was in OT, after a rest cuz their offense had the ball for 4 mins…
4. as bad a loss as that was, im still damn proud we got to OT. ya i know, we needed a win, but srlsy, we’re now officially a competent DC away.
5. schaub/aj/foster are such badasses.
KP
Look as bad as things seem
A real DC and we’re in the playoffs. Kubes is just too good of an offensive mind to fire. if he doesn’t get a good DC then he is dumbass.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
He had a great second half. Not a great game
Granted, make no mistake about it, his receivers didn’t catch the ball but Balt was playing some pretty good secondary as well. I like Matt, but he’s just not the mobile QB we need. As far as who I would like to replace him, that’s up in the air. I’m not an analyst so I really can’t speculate on that.
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I'm not gonna rip on someone's opinion, as I said above....
but so help me god, if anyone suggests free-agent-to-be Alex Smith as mobile QB….I will ban the hell out of someone.
"Lord, beer me strength."
NO Fucking way I'd almost *takes a drink of bleach*
Rather bring Rosencopter back. LOL
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Reply fail to Barry
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HUH?
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Please read above
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I got it
But by now I have had a lot of vodka
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
please
Fuck kubiak!! Quit defending this worthless cocksucker
Reverend Pimp Daddy
by jahunter221 on Dec 13, 2010 11:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Plus one. He is responsible for 6 of 8 losses due to his playcalling
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
Are you implying...
…you enjoy having your cock sucked by men except when it’s Kubiak?
Just saying o_0
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
So at best we're 8-8
Again. This front office/coaching group has proven they cannot get us over the hump. No matter how good or amazing the 2nd half of this game was, we still lost. Kubiak and his entire coaching staff has to go. Maybe Gruden saw enough to want to coach here. Honestly, there’s no way we make the playoffs. I hope we lose out to improve our draft position. We need help at DT, CB, FS, SS, and WR. At least the new regime won’t keep drafting TE’s right?
They could take off SS
if they blitzed Pollard more.
Best game of the season for Pollard….really did a nice job blitzing.
"Lord, beer me strength."
46 is where our d should be
Our d is set up with monster hitters, and lack of pass defenders just go balls to the wall!
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
agreed
when hes used properly, he’s a beast. we just need a good FS, corner to replace jason allen (who got worked today), more DT help and A NEW DC
KP
Falcons fan here Nice game you guys played
I went from shittiest game to crappiest game playing prime time games to, HOLY SHIT this is a good game.
It’s sad that the texans had close games
Question here, why did you guy’s loose Defense? Offense?
Because our defensive coaching staff got their degree from University of Pheonix online.
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It's a little of both...mostly defense and special teams
This game was a microcosm of the entire Texans season. It was eerily predictable.
When the Texans were losing 28-13, I actually thought they’d make the comeback, except I thought they’d miss the 2 point conversion for a heartbreaking loss.
But that’s what the Texans have done all season. Not show up in the 1st half. Show up in the 2nd half. Play terrible defense and have terrible special teams, but make just enough plays to get you back in the game only to rip your heart out at the end whether its from a hail mary, pick 6, 75 yard drive in 45 seconds with no timeouts or a deflected pass off a knee for an INT in the red zone.
You guys are all wrong. This was not on Kubes. It was not on Schaub. It wasn’t even on the defense. This was on the Special Teams. That gave up a 103 yard touchdown. They failed to get us ANY field position. And they consistently gave B-More great field position. Direct all hate on them!
Hopeless Texans fan, dreaming of better days....
Astros-Rockets-Texans-Horns (but not necessarily in that order
No vision
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
i mean the root of that is
COACHING. ST have been shit all year. its on gary to get joe to do better. its on gary to get better plays called in OT.
KP
Fun-fact:
Detroit leads the league in kick return average. Does that mean that Jim Schwartz, head coach of the mighty 3-10 Lions, doing a good job?
Also in the top ten: Arizona, Seattle, Tennessee, Jacksonville.
In the bottom ten: Indy (worst than us), NYG, Green Bay, KC, Philly.
Sorry, but special-teams are a crap-shoot.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
But I’m not talking about the entire season. I’m talking about tonight. And you can’t tell me Special Teams can’t make a huge difference on a game by game basis.
Hopeless Texans fan, dreaming of better days....
Astros-Rockets-Texans-Horns (but not necessarily in that order
No, I agree with you for this game.
It was awful. I was responding to the claim that it’s all Kubiak’s fault, despite the fact that generally highly-regarded coaches may have bad return units, and vice versa.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
on the lions
they will be a contender next year mark my words. They are finally getting the pieces together in Detroit.
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Maybe, maybe not.
People said that about the Texans for a few years, though.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
You're being ridiculous.
The truth is some blame belongs to each and every one of the people you listed. Kubiak was Kubiak, Schaub was Schaub, the defense was the defense, and the special teams was shit. You can’t just put all the blame on just one guy or just the special teams, it all had an effect on the outcome.
It has been several posts since someone mention Brett Farvre
Is he gonna become a coach next year? Or will he completely walk way from the foot ball game.
You can put that play on Schaub, but why are they running crossing routes like that with throws out of the end zone? In the OT period, they weren’t up against the clock. Why not run Foster? Or try a screen or another “out” pattern? Those slow-to-develop crossing patterns are fine up near the middle of the field but don’t make any sense at that point in the game.
You are such a good friend that if you and me were the last two people trapped on a sinking boat with only 1 life vest left, i would remember and pray for you every day.
Hire Julian Assange for the next Head Coach for us!
That cock sucker will get the dirt on the opponents. LOL
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GQ
I gotta give up for the kinda heart the kid played with. He was up against one of the biggest, toughest WR’s in the league most of the night and came up big.
Boldin is no joke, and I thought Quin played his ass off. Sure he gave up a few but look at the guy he was going up against. Since the “Q-tip” game he’s been playing like the GQ of last season.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
by Hydroshock on Dec 13, 2010 11:51 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
agreed
that was a sick save on 3rd down. when the MNF announcers said he liked the matchup with boldin (who also goes by Q), i was like wtf why? but he showed up.
KP
They were getting pretty physical too
There was a lot of shoving and shit talking too. Two plays before that 3rd down play they were jawing back and forth because Boldin beat him on a route, but only after Quin was all in his business. The next play was a run to Rice where Boldin lunged into Quin for the block. It was a pretty nice impact and they scrapped until the whistle…..next play was the 3rd down break up, and GQ let him know about it.
I like this kid. He’s been a goat and shared his part of the blame but I like the way he fights. Hopefully Kareem was watching.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
speaking of Kareem.....
6 tackles, 1 assist
Ppretty good but he still gave up a lot. Still……encouraging?
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
he's definitely improving.
without a doubt. i keep having to remind myself he’s a rook
KP
This offseason could pay dividends if some of the players can get together outside of the organized practices
Particularly the your D-backfield with some informal scrimmaging with the WRs.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
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a bunch of tackles with no PDs
usually means he got beat alot and made the tackle after getting beat.
Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.
not necessarily
he was in on a few run play tackles
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Dec 15, 2010 7:50 AM CST up reply actions
He was solid even before the Q-tip game.
Just didn’t get targeted all that much because, hey—with Kareem on the field, why bother?
He’s a keeper, for sure.
by Nashmeister on Dec 13, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
Agree with HS on this one
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 13, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
now that Jackson guy on the other hand....
sad face.
Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.
Rec'd I though he came up big tonight as well.
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I hate stuart scott- get your fucking eye fixed idiot
by liono on Dec 13, 2010 11:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You think if they can put a man on the moon they can fix his marble eyeball
by SuperSerial on Dec 13, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
My biggest surprise
I thought someone would mention that Brett Favre’s consecutive game streak ended, but if I’m not mistaken, I don’t think it was mentioned once on ESPN tonight.
No doubt. This was the last of one of several vacation days I took to watch the Texans lose, lol.
by SuperSerial on Dec 14, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, I just read the title of this thread.
And I’m not pleased.
Disney Fan?
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by riversmccown on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
Hey Rivers
Can we start a ’who’s the new head coach’ thread?
Thats really more of a Kerns thing.
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by riversmccown on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Haha
There’s always fanposts if you guys want to hit on it. I’m sure this will be a busy week here now that the offseason has unofficially started.
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by riversmccown on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
we should start draft/FA prospect fan post
who we should look at/ target.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
That was "A Kerns Thing" because
I’ve run out of ways to describe how we lost a game in heartbreaking fashion. This team is giving me writers block.
I just realized something. With this NFL record 4 games lost after coming back from at least 14 down…. In my book, that pretty much makes us the Most Disappointing Team in NFL history.
Hopeless Texans fan, dreaming of better days....
Astros-Rockets-Texans-Horns (but not necessarily in that order
wait til the defensive stats come out at the end of the year, lol
by SuperSerial on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
speaking of which...
Lets just rest AJ and OD… No point in putting our guys out there to get hurt if we aint making the playoffs. Save them for next year hopefully no lock out
Biggest Disappointment In Franchise History?
Couldn’t help myself.
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by riversmccown on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
That one was huge
Don’t get me wrong. But this one……this one was a shot right in the nuts, ya know? It was THE biggest game in our franchise and we coughed it up in equally spectacular fashion. So by default, this one wins.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
well
This one really was because it could mean the end of another coaching tenure and potentially another rebuild.
We literally had the best chance of winning our division this year instead of fighting for a wild card. And when the money was on the line we put on one awesome, bad ass, display of fail……on MNF to add.
That’s why I think this one carries the most weight.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
When Jacksonville finishes 10-6...
Can we go back and say that this game really didn’t matter?
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
I don’t think this is the biggest, but one of many avoidable losses. This one was just on national TV and had a dramatic ending. But this game is nothing more than a broken record of the whole season.
by SuperSerial on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 AM CST up reply actions
Lionsgot that one
we are the biggest roller coaster franchise evar
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
But I'm not talking about the worst team. I'm talking about the team that gives their fans the most hope, only to let them down.
Hopeless Texans fan, dreaming of better days....
Astros-Rockets-Texans-Horns (but not necessarily in that order
The numbers don't lie...
Hopeless Texans fan, dreaming of better days....
Astros-Rockets-Texans-Horns (but not necessarily in that order
Texans fans theme song
Love The Way You Lie
I’m sure changing a couple words here and there wouls make this song reflect how we feel perfectly
I was thinking Master of puppets
Master, Master, where’s the dreams that I’ve been after?
Master, Master, you promised only lies
Laughter, laughter, all I hear or see is laughter
Laughter, laughter, laughing at my cries
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
How about the MASH theme, “Suicide is Painless”.
by SuperSerial on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I just got home from the game
I’m fucking wasted, and as of two minutes ago I am high as a fucking kite. I honestly think done for this year. I have no energy left. This team has finally sucked the life force out of me. We play one half of football once again, and find another way to lose…… Again. This comes down to coaching gentleman. It’s really that simple. The kubiak experiment is over. I feel sorry for the players, but even more so for all of us who really deserve better than this bullshit that we keep getting what feels like shoved straight up our collective asses
by AllenOU on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Let it out friend. Let it out.
I totally agree with you. I too feel sorry for the fans and the players. Kubiak is in charge of this train wreck, and he needs to go. No room for apologists.
by SuperSerial on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Seriously dude
Shut the fuck up.
There is always room for people with contrary opinions at BRB.
Maybe you would be better off posting at www.garykubiaksucksandallrealtexansfansthinkso.com
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
No, it was directed to SuperSerial.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions
I recommend more.
Always.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
There's got to be a limit
I’m emotionally drained from this team.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
Just write this year off and hopefully we’ll have a new coaching staff next season. Then you can start off anew, lol.
by SuperSerial on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
We've reached it...
See how these three games shake out and then see what will be the expectation for 2011 based on what coaching moves are made.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Would tanking be an option?
I love me some useless wins, but I really love me a high draft pick.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
I would like to give some of our awesome injured players some rest time
it cant be good for andre to keep going out there like that.
I'm sure everyone would like to see him reach 1.5k yards for a third straight season
I do agree. I would play these games like pre-season games
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
This one really hurts.
And it hurts more than any other game EVER for me. I don’t know why, but man am I just depressed as ever. I swear the pic six happened in slow motion for me
by AllenOU on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I gotta agree with you
I pumped this up a lot in my head. I had a day full of studying at school (my exams start tommorrow) so from the time I woke up to the time me and my dad left for the game (6am-5pm) I had either been studying or thinking about the game. The fact that they had ALL the momentum going into the overtime is what pissed me off. Great comeback, Great defensive stops, and then that stupid shit happens. Ah, whatever.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
High draft picks are not worth it.
Better to draft in the late first through early third rounds.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
How much of that is due to
Late first round picks go to strong, winning teams, and early picks go to crappy teams?
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
It's down to economics
You get more player/dollar than at the top end of the draft because salaries are so ridiculously high there. The talent might be slightly better, but you can get more talent of almost the same level much, much cheaper in the late first through early third rounds.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Slightly better?
I dunno… Earl Thomas vs. Kareem Jackson, for instance. Cheaper to trade up, as well. It’s not a coincidence that most of our first-rounders haven’t been any good since we’ve been a .500 team.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Trading up would've been costly
The Chargers gave up 3, 4 picks to get Mathews? Pretty hefty price.
Of course, that’s assuming anyone wanted to move back….
/is firmly planted on the Travis Lewis bandwagon.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Sample size of one ftw
The point is that the dropoff between talent from early round one to early round three is nowhere near as stark as the dropoff between salaries. And since you really need a pretty deep roster in the NFL to contend because of all the injuries, you’re better off getting more pretty good players for about the same as you are getting one unproven player in the early first.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
I can go on.
Suh vs. Kareem. Eric Berry vs. Kareem. Haden vs. Kareem. McClain vs. Kareem. My scrotum vs. Kareem.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Does your scrotum have an agent and can it outplay a traffic cone?
…If so call Rick Smith @ Houston Texans front office immediately.
"velocitas eradico"
I don't think
Bringing your scrotum into this is playing fair.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 15, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
The PAtriots agree with your statement....
and, in the time I’ve taken to respond, have traded back for 4 more 2nd round picks.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Perhaps the new CBA will remedy that
Isn’t there discussion about employing a rookie salary structure that makes sense and not one that penalizes bad teams that get high first round picks?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
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the problem is rookie QB's
They are picked #1 overall and told they are the future of the franchise. Then they turn out like David Carr. They end up behind a below average O-Line, with a below average Running game and below average receivers. They are set up to fail. Then they have a below average efense as well, so they are always playing catch up.
So teams have to pay a guaranteed $100 million to get the player on the team. How else do the Rams or Lions make Bradford or Stafford happy to sign? or do you end up with Eli Manning at the Chargers?
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by distant_texans_fan on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
There still needs to be a rookie wage salary.
You’re paying an unproven college player two to three times what some of your elite or even just average proven veterans are getting. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with that. What other business would give their just graduated college mechanical engineer the $100k salary and pay their 15yr experienced mechanical engineer w/ several proven designs that have made the company money only $30k? TOTALLY bass ackwards.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
500+ comments later
All I see is people finding something to bitch about.
Oh, it’s Kubiak’s fault. Oh we have such a dumb head coach. Oh, it’s the defenses fault. Oh, it’s all Schaub’s fault.
BLAH FUCKING BLAH.
It was a great game. The outcome was very unfortunate, but it was a great game.
Im proud of my Texans. Fuck all of y’all that don’t have anything else to do but complain about the team that they’re supposedly rooting for. Oh, and for the bandwagon fucks: Get the fuck out of here. We don’t need your stupidity and your invalid opinions.
That is all.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
by Jordann on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM CST reply actions 8 recs
As I told Big Ron on Twitter...
The team never quits. And for that….I am proud.
Not proud about the sluggish first half on all sides of the ball, but I am proud of the fight….if only they could just bludgeon teams.
"Lord, beer me strength."
They keep fighting that's the thing.
I blew up on so many people after the Jets game because they kept saying that the problem with the Texans is that they give up easily. It’s like we watched a completely different game or something.
We played against a playoff caliber team. Got our asses handed to us in the first half but made a come back in the second half against a respectable ravens D. We fell short. Unfortunately. But I didn’t see an ounce of “give up” from our team. And from a 5-7 team that already had a couple of heartbreaks weeks ago, that’s amazing.
I can’t wait until we finally get our shit together. A retooled defensive coaching staff and some more experience for Kubes.
How can you be so pessimistic after a great game like this.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
In it until the end against the Jets, Eagles, Ravens, and a split with the Colts.
It’d be nice to win one, but in the end, isn’t it about entertainment? We’ve had some shitty games this year no doubt, but between thrilling conclusions and fuck-stomping the Colts, I’m getting my money’s worth. I’m certainly not ready to give up on a coach that has put us in 25/29 games up until the last few minutes over the past couple seasons.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I agree.
I wouldn’t trade this in for a chance to rebuild a franchise and win the superbowl 20 years from now.
Obviously we’re not there yet, but these games should serve as an indicator that we’re only a couple of roster and defensive coaching moves away from being a real contender.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
by Jordann on Dec 14, 2010 1:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We don't quit
We do show up late.
Frank Bush delenda est
I don't think you understand.
The thing that really fucking pisses me off is the one good half one horrible half. This has been in EVERY game.
I admit kubiak is obviously not 100% to blame, but as the head coach that’s what you have to deal with. You take the credit if the team succeeds, and you take the fall when the team fails. It’s that simple, whether any of us agree or not.
I’m proud of my texans too. But there is something fucked up going on behind the scenes that is allowing this team to come out unprepared and just plain not ready to play football in the first half of games, dating to two seasons ago.
It’s frustrating to watch, and to hear kubiaks explanations after the game AGAIN brought me to my tipping point. That and 8 dollar beers and 4 hours of combined traffic.
WE DESERVE BETTER!!!!!!!
by AllenOU on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
OMFG
A team coming out flat in the first half but making a heroic comeback that fell short in overtime.
The thing with these so called “texans fans” is that they find every little thing to bitch about as if those same things aren’t happening to other teams as well.
And believe me, I understand your frustration. I’ve been a houston sports fan for about 13 years of my life, if you feel like you deserve better; you’re entitled to your opinion. But if I have to hear these season ticket holders and “die-hard fans” bitch about not getting the results that you’re looking for, im gonna start going on a curse-laden tirade about how you can just not root for the team instead of bitching, bitching, bitching.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
It's one thing to bitch
And another thing to point out flaws in the gameplan, execution, etc. I think the latter is ok, but yeah, as much as I have grown to take an almost perverse pleasure in seeing how we can screw games up, I don’t like to see people bitching, or at least bitching about the wrong stuff.
Like don’t bitch about Schaub, because he played like a man out there today. He made an unfortunate mistake at a crucial time, but we wouldn’t even have been in overtime unless he put the team on his shoulders in the fourth.
But Frank Bush? Bitch away.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
I'd put the fault on that play to JJ
Kevin Walter has position on his defender and was hovering near the sideline, Schaub sees him and throws him the ball. Jacoby Jones busts out from the slot, bringing his defender with him, and gives up the interception.
If Jacoby Jones hadn’t muscled in on another players space, KW would have made an easy catch.
A Texas Wannabe, born and raised in New Zealand. Currently located 7343miles South west of Houston.
by distant_texans_fan on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Not the first time in the game he did that. He almost fucked up the last td and I believe the 2 point conversion was actually headed for Dre.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Ive been a fan for about 17 years
Started really watching sports when I was ten
It’s just we are flat in the first half ALMOST EVERY game. If this isn’t true then please let me know, because that’s what I see.
The rockets titles were great.
But the world series sweep and the inconsistent play between the three local teams….
So yeah, I think we deserve at least a little better. But maybe I’m being unreasonable
by AllenOU on Dec 14, 2010 1:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously?
Fuck all of y’all that don’t have anything else to do but complain about the team that they’re supposedly rooting for
They lost man. AGAIN. SAME GD STORY, DIFFERENT NIGHT. Isn’t 5 years long enough to endure the pain and misery?
Complaining about your team IS rooting for them. You wouldn’t bother to complain unless you cared.
The difference is that your level of “fail tolerance” apparently extends beyond 5 years while for some of us, that is the cutoff point.
Telling people that are ready for a change in order to get the team moving in the right direction to fuck off is not the right option.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
Worry not my fellow fans. Kubiak believes in YOU!
by DieHardTexan on Dec 14, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, seriously.
They did lose, man. I watched the same game that you watched last night. The problem with you and the rest of these so called fans is that they feel entitled to better results because they’ve been waiting for five years. BOO FRICKIN HOO.
Just because you feel entitled to a better team, doesn’t mean you’re gonna get it. Why can’t people just fucking wait. We knew coming into this season that our secondary and defensive coordinator could put us in a hole. We knew that we had the hardest schedule in the league. We knew that it was gonna be tough for these Texans to compete.
But people keep raising their expectations higher and higher because we have players like Andre Johnson and Mario Williams and because it’s Kubiak’s fifth year so he should take us to the playoffs and maybe even the superbowl.
And when things don’t work out quite the way they wanted it to, they find everybody to blame. FIRE GARY KUBIAK BECAUSE HE WASTED THAT TIMEOUT IN THE SECOND HALF. Or, my favorite one, FIRE MATT SCHAUB BECAUSE HE THREW THAT PICK SIX, HE’S JUST NOT CUT OUT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL QUARTERBACK. You know, eventhough Kubiak kept coaching us back into games that we have no business being in. And how Matt Schaub’s really been great this whole season, it just doesn’t show because we’re focusing more on our running game now.
Telling people that are ready for a change in order to get the team moving in the right direction to fuck off is not the right option.
Im ready for a change as well. A change in attitude. Mostly everybody here that bitches and moans sounds like bratty little fucks. There’s a fine line between constructive criticism and bitching. And these same people blaming Kubiak and Schaub for the loss, crossed that line a long time ago.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
by Jordann on Dec 14, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok....you need some vacation time.
The problem with you and the rest of these so called fans is that they feel entitled to better results because they’ve been waiting for five years. BOO FRICKIN HOO.
Really? So-Called fans? How much of our time do we devote to watching, rooting for and blogging about our team. EVERYONE here is a fan. Fan does not mean you just happily accept mediocrity…it means you care enough to WANT BETTER.
And when things don’t work out quite the way they wanted it to, they find everybody to blame. FIRE GARY KUBIAK BECAUSE HE WASTED THAT TIMEOUT IN THE SECOND HALF. Or, my favorite one, FIRE MATT SCHAUB BECAUSE HE THREW THAT PICK SIX, HE’S JUST NOT CUT OUT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL QUARTERBACK. You know, eventhough Kubiak kept coaching us back into games that we have no business being in. And how Matt Schaub’s really been great this whole season, it just doesn’t show because we’re focusing more on our running game now.
No…Fire Kubiak because he has had FIVE YEARS to do something and HE HASN’T. It is NOT an unreasonable conclusion to arrive at. The fire Schaub stuff is just dumb, there we agree.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We all want better results.
We all long for the day where we make the playoffs and do some real damage.
You can call me the biggest Kubiak fan ever, but I honestly don’t think he should be fired, He’s done more good than bad in those five years. The results don’t show it, but he has. We have an offense that can put up tons of points when it needs to. The only REAL problem we have is the defense.
I agree that Kubiak has some problems with micromanagement but that’s nothing compared to our defensive woes.
People should be screaming and keep screaming for Frank Bush’s head. Not Kubiak’s.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
by Jordann on Dec 14, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I would argue that Kubes has some playcalling issues in critical situations as well.
Given how tired the Ravens D was at the end of the game, it would seem to make sense to pund the rock a few times, exepcially on our own 5.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
The problem I have with getting into that is...
… beyond here be Monday Morning Quarterbacking Dragons upon which “received truth” is built.
If it was that obvious to everyone on this board, isn’t it possible that it was obvious to the Ravens as well?
Isn’t it the job of a play caller to try to do what they AREN’T expecting?
Given the offensive results that we’ve gotten over his tenure, I’ll take Koobs playcalling for the long run, and hope that we can get at least an “average” defense in here one day.
But hey, I’m the guy that really STILL doesn’t have a problem with the halfback option play from last year… So by default I’m out of phase with 99% of the folks that post here.
We had a bad outcome… that’s it.
"velocitas eradico"
The halfback option was definitely the ultimate monday morning QB criticism.
If it had worked (i.e., had Leach made that block, it would have most certainly been a TD), Kubiak would have looked like a genius. And the people complaining about it evidently didn’t realize that our red-zone offense was absolutely lousy last year; we couldn’t run the ball at all, and Schaub wasn’t sharp in goal-line situations. Getting creative there is all you can do.
Never had a problem with it either
We were one blocker away from that play being successful.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
And one unbelievably shitty pass by a player who should never have been throwing one.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 14, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
/laughing.... I knew the love fest wasn't going to last...
But seriously… Do you think that they just drew that play up on the turf or that maybe douchenozzle had effectively thrown that pass once before?
Oh never mind… I really didn’t mean to open up wounds from LAST season… There’s plenty of woundage from this season to keep me miserable all through the next several months of uncertainty.
"velocitas eradico"
I've seen two different takes on this:
That seem to contradict each other.
1) The Ravens defense was tired, so we should have run the ball (even though the Ravens defense was tired in the fourth quarter, and we passed the ball with great success).
2) The Ravens defense got a breather from the end of regulation and the Ravens offense controlling the ball for a few minutes, therefore we should have run the ball (against a refreshed defense).
But people are going to rag on him no matter what he does, so I suppose in the end it doesn’t matter. Fuck, even against the Redskins, people were giving him shit for passing up the 52-yard field goal (which Rackers missed today, for the record), and punting the ball. And when it worked out and they won, everyone attributed it to luck.
But if they had run it two times for no gain because a refreshed Ngata busted through the middle, then thrown an incomplete pass and punted the game away, people would be bitching about how we went away from the pass, which was working all second-half.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I would not have had an issue with the playcall during regulation. A touchdown doesn't end the game in regulation.
What people, and Kubes, apparently fail to take into account is that in overtime, you HAVE TO BE considerate of the rule changes.
In that situation, knowing that a touchdown ends the game, you really should be running the ball that close to your own endzone because it gives you the best chance to protect the ball.
That decision, at THAT time, is what i have a problem with. The apparent lack of strategic thought about the way the game changes in overtime.
Regulation? Fine throw it.
Overtime? You must, at all costs, protect the ball before anything else.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I see your point... the context is definitely different in sudden death.
…and out passes near the goal line are definitely a risk.
I just think it’d be the same conversation with different words if they had gotten stuffed on three running plays and had to punt out.
"velocitas eradico"
Not from me.....
I woulda been pissed, but everything to me pointed towards running the damn ball. That close to your own end zone, every pass puts you in danger of a safety…..unless you employ the stand up and throw philosophy which so many teams were using against us early in the season.
And I don’t remember, but I think I was behind the punt vs trying for the FG…..could be wrong on that, I’ve slept since then. lol
I just get SOOOOO pissed when it seems like this coaching staff outsmarts themselves…..the whole, “the Ravens will expect us to run so we’ll pass instead” and then lo and behold, they were ready for that. Did the Ravens have an answer for our running attack all game? Yeah the pass got us to OT…..it had too…..but if they didn’t have an answer to our running game (which I seem to remember not really) then run in that situation.
But as my siggy says,
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
A field-goal loses the game, too.
If you go three-and-out, then Turk has to punt out of the end-zone, you’re pretty much conceding the game as well. They absolutely had to move the ball there; you don’t initiate a game of field-position when you’re already in your own end-zone.
Maybe, but you still have a chance.
Throwing an interception five yards from your goal line gives you less of a chance than punting and making go from their own 45.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Throwing an interception was not the plan.
You’re taking the worst-case scenario and arguing based on that.
No, I'm saying passing the ball on your own goal line in overtime is a bad idea since any score ends the game.
In overtime, protecting the ball has to be your priority
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
This should be goo'd.....
and done. While you and I disagree on Kubiak, I have to agree with where you’re coming from.
And most definitely DO NOT stop screaming for Frank Bush’s head! lmao
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Five years of fail?
He took an awful 2-14 team to 6-10, then 8-8 over the next two seasons (despite starting QB injuries). I get that they’ve come up short this year and last year, but don’t blow this out of proportion. There are a lot of teams out there who aren’t even competitive on a year-to-year basis.
And “pain and misery”? Going down to the wire in 25/29 games over the past two years isn’t “pain and misery”. You’re watching for entertainment, and they’ve been pretty damn entertaining. There are a lot of problems with this team, but head coach is further down the list, and much more difficult to replace. I’d rather give Kubiak a free safety and a defensive coordinator and see what he can do.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Depend on your definition of success.
For you, success seems to equal go from bad to mediocre.
For me, success would be making the playoffs.
It is a personal definition, so to each his own, but don’t try and tell me that I have been “entertained” and should therefore be happy. Just being entertained is not what meets my criteria for the team.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
...also, it wasn't just a 2-4 team...
It was a 2-14 team mired firmly in salary cap hell; busting at the seams with failed first round defensive line draft picks. It took them several years to even be able to pay adequately for new talent.
"velocitas eradico"
Fuck you!
Who the hell are you? It’s a blog. We all have the right to be here and voice our opinions. Did you misunderstand that when you signed up? And to say people who are upset don’t root for the Texans is total crap. I’ve loved this team since day one – when I was at the inauguration and unveiling of the team colors and logo.
They DID play good in the second half, but the coaches put them one more game down in the L bracket.
Some of us look to plays, coaching, and players for faults. But you blame the fans? What the fuck? So you sir, so high and mighty, get the fuck out of here!
Worry not my fellow fans. Kubiak believes in YOU!
by DieHardTexan on Dec 14, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
Blog policy reminder: no personal attacks.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Dec 14, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Does that apply to yourself? Can I say....
Fuck ME!! I hate me! I have no cluse wtf I am talking about! I am a cock-gobbling douchenozzle!
Can you attack yourself “personally”? I suppose that’s the only way….psychosis much? Shut up you!
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
I can see where that would come into play...
…because after the last four games I am pretty much hating my life. I could see where my relationship with me could become an abusive one.
Me: “Why do you KEEP pulling for these guys?”
Myself: “Shut up!… They’re my team!”
I: “Hey! What are we talking about?”
Me & Myself: “Shut up, you whiny little EMO bitch (thanks Rivers…)”
I: “Yike… yike… yike… yike…”
"velocitas eradico"
I suppose
I mean, we’re already all into self-harm, for if we weren’t, we wouldn’t be here.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Dec 14, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I STILL LOVE THE TEXANS!!!!
One hell of a game when we get rolling seems as the only thing that can stop us is ourselves. It hurts but man I had a good time watching that last quarter it was so great to see that kind of fight on the field! It was a great game till the end result. I cant be too upset we played with heart for sure!!!
That 2 point conversion....
When JJ caught it….. Best feeling EVER!!!
by AllenOU on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
And we saw or should have seen the pic 6 coming
We deserve better than to forsee THAT. I guess that’s what I’m trying to say for the most part
by AllenOU on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
For sure thought he was gonna drop it, his luck had to run out sometime
by fgp on Dec 14, 2010 11:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's what I thought.
Because from the looks of it, that pass was meant for Andre.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
you like that fight?
Leprechaun v. AJ this Sunday.
Round Two.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
about that
I think the referees will have that situation under their watchful eyes and the first cheap shot by the cheap shot artist will get flagged with a warning, and that should be it, unless he wants another fine and/or possible ejection. This time I don’t think AJs going with him….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
My Theory if there is a Lockout
There will be a scrub league again and Houston will be dominating the first 10 weeks going 8-2. Then the strike is over and the regulars come back and somehow we miss the playoffs.
It's a lockout
Not a strike.
Frank Bush delenda est
This should be good enough for any Texans fan
Arian Foster on Schaub (post-game): "I’ll ride with him any day of the week."
"Lord, beer me strength."
scary
that there’s no CBA, which includes the Franchise tag, RFA, etc.
After this season, I hope we have right of refusal on one Arian Foster, Badass.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Last year, Gruden was an analyst
This year, he’s just a fluffer.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 14, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
Man that one hurt...
I had already moved to the bedroom, to wind down, and dammit I got all woked and kicked in the head.
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
Chicken or the egg
I think Rivers is right, our special teams is bad.
So lets talk field position.
Assuming zero punt return yardage, who is to blame for the poor field position?
I think an argument can be made for both sides. If the offense consistenly moves the ball then our punts take THEM inside their 20, or if our defense holds better we don’t start inside our own 10 like a hundred times.
I wonder if ESPN is gonna run a farewell tribute to Matt Turk after this season. You know, have him and Brett Favre talk about playing in the NFL over age 40.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
Good column.
I watched the game to the bitter end last night (a heavy lift for a geezer on the east coast who has to work in the morning). I was thrilled and impressed with the fight in the Texans. I was puzzled by the play-calling in overtime: the Ravens were absolutely gassed, there’s no clock to hurry against…why not pound the great back at them for a while and grind them up a bit? Slow down the pass rush? Take a little bit of pressure off of Schaub?
What a game by that guy, too. What a tragic way for it to end. But I don’t watch the Texans. I came over here to say “what a game, what a shame,” but then I read this column and now I have a whole different feeling about it, on behalf of y’all. The team deserves better, honestly. Every man on the Texans is a fighter, but I don’t think they’re being put in position to win and that goes to the coaching staff. I like Kubiak and wish him success, but man. These guys have got to get over the hump.
Good luck, Houston fans.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 14, 2010 9:08 AM CST reply actions
You echo the sentiments of every sane Texans fan.
Bad playcalling, poor clock management.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
Great username
Thx for the sentiments. I don’t think anyone really feels the players don’t give it their all. In fact, I think the vast majority feels exactly as you feel. They play, but the coaches are the obstacle. Plus, the fans have lived through each and every year or monumentally bad plays/defeats. It takes a toll on you.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
As a fan of the 1978 (old enough to notice) - 1999 New England Patriots,
I feel for you.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 14, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
I was there through the Steve Grogan years
For some reason, Matt Schaub reminds me a lot of Steve Grogan….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
Well that's all she wrote...
The season is officially gone. I’m indifferent to the team at this point, but beyond disappointed with McNair. I can’t believe he hasn’t manned up and let Frank Bush go (yea, firing people sucks but come on dude). And I say that knowing that the defense played a shut down game in the second half and in OT, but they lost it for us early in the game.
Where the hell is my bleach anyways!?
Worry not my fellow fans. Kubiak believes in YOU!
technically its not official
if we win out, the jags win next week, and then lose their last two, and the colts lose out…. boom 8-8, division winners. Chances are pretty low though.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
A Jags win next week is division-clinching.
You mean Colts win….then both teams lose out.
"Lord, beer me strength."
ok that one!
hah, its confoosing.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I'm just wondering why this team always comes out flat in the first half
Why is it that they’re only good once they fall behind? I have a solution, how about the Texans spot the other team 14 points before the game starts?
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The Texans have fallen from the old scripted play tree, ala the '80s 49ers
The first 20 or so offensive plays are specially scripted so the coaches can get reads on the other teams’ tendencies. This allows them to draft up an in-game strategy and play-calling that will hopefully lead to more points and clock domination.
On defense, the coaching staff just plain has a bad scheme and the wrong personnel to deviate from the bad scheme to a potentially a worse scheme.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
Well
The difference in the 80’s 49ers’ teams and the 00’s Texans is Bill Walsh to Gary Kubiak. Which is like comparing Megan Fox to Amy Winehouse.
by arianbrotherhood on Dec 14, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Okay
First off, I am annoyed with anyone that has the “look guys, this is our team and we can’t complain about them! We need to be behind them! I am juggling Kubiak’s balls in my mouth as we speak!” approach.
We need to complain. Actually, when we were down 21 (either time), we should have all started throwing trash onto the field. I’m not saying that we should EVER abandon rooting for our Texans…I’m saying that we should be trying to figure out a way to fix something that has stayed consistently inconsistent for multiple seasons now.
You can’t blame Schaub for the loss based on the OT throw. We wouldn’t have been in OT had he not gained super powers like he did in the fourth.
What you need to look at is this: The Ravens defense was on life support at the point when we tied the game. They lucked out and got the ball first. Defense prevailed. Now, Kubiak’s mode of thinking is to play not to lose, so he sticks with what was working, which is passing the ball. What he SHOULD have been doing on first down, is letting the league’s leading rusher see what he can get. IF nothing, THEN call the pass play.
It’s not just this game. It’s every game. Dating back to last season with the Chris Brown halfback passes and the turning away every time a field goal kick. Can you imagine Mike Tomlin hiding his eyes during a field goal (and they had Jeff Reed, so he might have wanted to at some point). This guy isn’t a head coach. He is an overrated coordinator who is in over his head. The team has the talent, minus holes in the defense, but can’t get over the hump. For the third straight season, I am saying…well were 5-8 right now, but man we should have had that Jags, Jets, Chargers and Ravens game…and we could be 9-4.
When do we turn to reality, tell Bob McNair to take off that silly-ass sweater vest, man the fuck up and hire a REAL head coach?
Fin.
by arianbrotherhood on Dec 14, 2010 11:01 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I don't like it when people come here and tell other people what to say and how to say it
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
Um
That’s all everyone does on here. Have you not read the other 500 posts?
by arianbrotherhood on Dec 14, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
We state our opinions but we don't tell others what they must do
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
I'm confused
At what point did I say, “HEY EVERYONE! THINK THE EXACT WAY I DO!”
by arianbrotherhood on Dec 14, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
The way this is worded, for one thing...
First off, I am annoyed with anyone that has the "look guys, this is our team and we can’t complain about them! We need to be behind them! I am juggling Kubiak’s balls in my mouth as we speak!" approach.
…is disrespectful to all that disagree with you.
…changes the tone of the discussion from “Gary Kubiak sucks” to “YOU suck for supporting Gary Kubiak”.
See the difference?
"velocitas eradico"
Gee, thanks professor!
i did what everyone else on here does. Everyone in support of Kubiak has commented saying “you shouldn’t blame Kubiak for everything”….there is no difference in how I said it and how they say it. I expressed an opinion just like everyone else did, the difference was, my opinion is correct.
by arianbrotherhood on Dec 14, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, it is different.
One is rational: i.e., not everything that goes wrong with this team is Kubiak’s fault.
The other is absurd: every single bad thing that happens is Kubiak’s fault.
I think it’s amusing that you originally brought up the HB-pass, though, because if Vonta makes a block on that play, it goes for a TD and everybody praises Kubiak. But of course, since this is actual football and not theoryball, player execution does play a role in how successful your gameplan is.
by Nashmeister on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Well then
Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. I’m not blaming every loss on Kubiak….but I AM saying that the responsibility of not having this team in the playoffs after five years, not having a team ready to start a game, not calling the correct plays should fall on the head coach.
You have half of the people on here wanting him fired, and half of the people blaming someone else.
I spoke on what I thought a main problem was. I also mentioned that there were still holes, which there are. We ABSOLUTELY need a new D-Coordinator. No question.
What is it going to take for everyone to realize that he isn’t that great of a coach? Are you clinging onto him because he’s a good ol’ Aggie? Please. I wasn’t being irrational, I was being a realist.
But hey, maybe I should stop bitching about Kubiak and enjoy these last three (yet again meaningless) games.
Instead, I will hope John Elway offers us a sixth-round pick for Kubiak.
by arianbrotherhood on Dec 14, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
And
Just to make sure everyone knows I am not some dumbass that came on here just to bitch and be pessimistic….I haven’t missed a Texans game (preseason included) since the beginning of the franchise. I am not bragging, or saying I am better than anyone else. I am just saying I consider myself a die-hard fan, and it kills me to see them go through the same thing every year. That’s why I feel like change is necessary.
by arianbrotherhood on Dec 14, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well, actually AB...
…it’s more like two-thirds of the people on here that want Kubiak fired as of the recent poll. I happen to be one of those that thinks he has some things to work on but should be kept… and Frank Bush must be ejected from the organization like the results of a prune/Metamucil/MilkOfMagnesia/ExLax smoothie.
We’re not trying to chase you off and no one is calling YOU a dumbass… all viewpoints are welcome and your viewpoints on Koobs are very much in line with most of the board admins and as I mentioned… 66% of the readers here.
Just stick to the viewpoints and not the viewpoint-holders and you’ll be golden.
Cheers,
“Th’ Prof”
"velocitas eradico"
ZOMG
FIRE KUBIAK! COME ON! LET’S MAKE A WEBSITE ABOUT FIRING KUBIAK BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO BE FIRED!
FIREEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
I think its already out there
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
Did you sign the petition?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Send Vonta Leach to the Beach! http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?
Didn't even click on the website.
Just like the comicle, im not giving the site any hits.
Where the heck is teh Fire Frank Bush website eh?
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
plenty to play for.
8-8 guarantees at the very least another season that we aren’t technically “losers.”
4-2 in the division ain’t bad at all.
if i had said at the beginning of the season that we split with Indy… blanked the TITS.. and split with the Jags not to many people would be mad about that. i think Koob keeps his job if they go 3 straight and spank the Jags to end the season.
"eurotrash is the eurolitter.......... get on the dancefloor.... and shake your twitter!!!!!!!!!!!! baaaaah baaah baaaah baaah bah bah bah check ze tweets!!!"
"it is bad luck to accept a bird bath from a stranger." - Nascobar Lop Lop
"It's very SIMPLE angela!!!!! LOOK AT WHAT I'M DOING... AND GO TELL SOMEBODY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Andy
My biggest worry after this game
and the last 3 games really, is not Kubiak, but Bush. I am afraid that the defense performance in the second half and any improved performance against the weak offenses we are going to play could make them keep him. It will just sicken me. The team not quiting last night could make McNair keep ppl, and I think it would be a great injustice to keep Bush at this point.
Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.
I think we all have that fear
But I’m gonna have to put some faith in McNair to be smarter than that this time. (Notice I said this time)
He made a mistake in sticking with his guys the first time. Being the shrewd businessman that he is, I’m banking that he learned from that mistake and won’t let a couple of good halves of football cloud his decision when it comes to Bush.
Let’s face it, someone has to take the fall and I doubt it’s Kubiak this time. So by default it has to be Bush.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Bush is gone.....hopefully.
Even if we have decent games, the hole we are in defensively is so deep that there is no way Bush climbs out. The defensive play has to be considered as the single largest contributer to another failed season.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Dec 14, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
I don't claim to know what will happen with Kubes
I have the fear that if he stays – somehow next year is like this year.
I have the the fear that if he goes – in 2 years he takes the Broncos to the Superbowl and we get someone that pulls a Matt Millen.
However, I am not all pessimistic. Those that have seen my posts before know that.
I still look forward to ’Dre getting 1500 yds and Foster 1600 yds.
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 PM CST reply actions
so lets all just agree that next weeks fuck-stomping of the BESF's makes everything better?
as a fan base we have all agreed if we have to win 2 games a year, its against them.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
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For those ragging on Kubiak...
Question: how would you evaluate John Harbaugh?
Lots of you like to point to Harbaugh as a guy who turned a team around and took them to the playoffs while Kubiak hasn’t managed to do it. But did that really look like a stellar coaching job last night? And go ahead and talk to Ravens’ fans on this, because it’s not the first time they’ve given up a fourth-quarter lead.
we should hire
norv turner!
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I wish I had not looked at the stats of the game
Made me sick
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
This is what makes me shake my head......
at the thought that the better team won. I just don’t see it.
But it does point out where the problem lies (besides us only playing one half of football), two turnovers and 8 penalties for 51 yards. Also the imbalance in yardage is due to us not starting any further than our own 20 and the ravens starting past their own 30 every possession. So ST and an ‘efense that doesn’t create turnovers no matter how much better they played last night.
Otherwise we outplayed the fuck out of the ravens.
And for me this stat says it all about what we shoulda done in OT….111yrds of rushing…..but what the hell do I know. We HAD to pass to catch up, but our run game wasn’t doing to shabby either.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Does anybody know if Kubiak runs disciplined practices...
…in general? It was pretty telling to me that after Satan fired Wade Phillips one of the comments made referenced how different it was for the team/players to be moving quickly and sharply through practice.
When I see a bunch of penalties I start to smell sloppy practice, lax discipline and the ever-detrimental “player’s coach” syndrome. I really HOPE that’s not what is going on here.
"velocitas eradico"
I was thinking something along the same lines.....
with all the dropped passes. Most of them were of the “you gotta catch that in the NFL” variety. Anyway what I saw in the first half…..which is all I got to see…..you can only stretch your lunch break so far. lol
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
3 of the 1st downs for Ravens were penalties
Those with a ’efense like ours really hurt
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 14, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
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