Bill Cowher/ Gruden To Houston

It is unprecedented. But is it impossible?

If Kubiak is given the option of walking away or staying as the OC, would he stay? Or would he start again somewhere else? Could Kubiak walk away from Andre MF Johnson? Teh schaub? Arian Foster? Vonta Leach? Our zone blocking experienced O-Line? Even K-Dub and Dreesen and Thor? Where else is he going to find find a squad of ex-Tight Ends?

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He hasn’t even said he wants to get back into coaching.

According to all reports he has indicated exactly that.

to understand he’s thick as pig shite

There is ALMOST NEVER an interview where a coach says, I want that job!

They drop hints, they tell friends, they do all kinds of stuff EXCEPT specifically say they want a job, because that is bad negotiation technique and could hurt the possibility that someone else offers them big money.

They MIGHT say, “I like that city, so I would consider that.”, or, “I am looking at all optionns.”

SO, when they (ESPN, FOX, PFT, etc…) says, “Houston is on the short list”, what they mean is, “Someone from Cowher’s camped whispered that he would consider Housston.”

I don’t see that completely as Gruden’s ring. Tomlin stepped in pretty quickly after Cowher & won a Super Bowl in his second season with that squad. I give Dick LeBeau more credit for those rings. I don’t want either one unless LeBeau is a package deal with Cowher

not HC.

there was a “reply” button.

they’ll pine for a hysterical coach that will scream, spit, and grab player’s by their facemask to make them unsuck. You know, because all grown men like to be embarrassed by their boss on national TV and definitely respond to that form of motivation.

MOST here seem not to be in support of Cowher for Texans head coach.

Im getting the “No to Cowher” bandwagon ready. When it’s up and running, you’ll see more people raising their hands, sharing the same views.

Dick.

LeBeau.

LeBeau’s defense carried those teams, & they still do now

He likes a power running game as opposed to the zone blocking scheme & would likely set the offense back a couple years

I just don’t want to blow him like the media does.

So Capers is the DC in Green Bay.

Am I off base to ask for Kubes as OC and Capers as DC?

I’d give my two left lugnuts for Green Bay’s defense + our offense.

Is that heresy? I’m too new to know. :-)

but I fail at life.

He’s probably not coming to Houston, but If he’s one of our legitimate options then I’d take him in a heartbeat. Obviously there are way better superstar combination that other people have in mind, but they really need to ask themselves if we have a legitimate chance of signing any of them.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he’s Jesus with a headset or anything, but with all of the Kubiak hate going on I find it really hard to believe that our fans would scoff at the idea of bringing in Bill Cowher.

us as fans need something if it is getting frank fired that will hold us over for a week maybe unless you bring in a proven DC. We fire Kubiak and bring in a great Head coach we will be ok until next season. Anyways with that said there is alot more we need to look at our special teams really did not help out as much.

Kubiak owns 8-8. Well, except for this year.

Sometime ago (last year), I watched an interview of Cowher on TV (ESPN, I think). I remember one of the questions was about best players (receivers, backs, QB’s). He was quick to pick Andre Johnson is better than Fitzgerald, but he did not stop there. He spoke of Scaub and his record, Jones, Daniels, and a few others on the Texans offense. The details he spoke of really surprised me – it seemed like he was really watching the Texans.

Maybe it was part of his job as a sports commentator, but I found it interesting that he kept going on in detail of the Texans stats and numbers that really was not a part of the original question – other than who is the best player in the NFL, based on his opinion.

He wasn’t in charge of player personnel. The defense kept Pittsburgh good. And what did Cowher do? Nothing. He’s one of the most overrated coaches of all time.

I’m a long time fan of Koobs. OK… and I remain a believer, as well. But it’s starting to become obvious that our team doesn’t just need a little change… it needs a lot.

Last season, we had a decent defense paired with a non-existent running game. This season, the scenario has been flipped (though it’s an excellent running game in 2010). With basically the same personnel, staff, and scheme. We’re not going forwards or backwards, folks. We’re going in circles. We have been for some time, now.

Maybe Kubiak can turn this around… and maybe he won’t. Options need to not only be explored by Mr. McNair, but they need to be acted upon somehow. We have no laurels to rest on, other than induvidual statistics. And those obviously don’t matter one bit.

Aside from a handful of studs, the foundation is still horribly incomplete after nine seasons. Koobs deserves much credit for grooming Schaub, AJ, Leach, Daniels, Foster, and the like. Still, we are far too thin, as well as unorganized, as a whole. Not that I expect or expected anyone to work miracles; and not that I want Koobs to “pay” for the inept failures of a nine-year old football product.

Then again, my opinion is starting to move in a realistic direction: that we need to start from scratch and rebuild nearly the entire squad. What is our goal? Winning seasons? Playoffs? No, it needs to be much higher. Sentimentality be damned.

Are we going to win a championship with this group anywhere in the near future? Is a playoff berth our ceiling? With or without Koobs? Was 9-7 in 2009 our ceiling? I’m seriously beginning to think so. And quite honestly, I’ve seen far stranger seasons and teams than this years’ Texans squad (sorry to burst your bubbles).

This team has most likely proven its mettle already, as far as I’m concerned.

Again, I’m not against Koobs or anyone else staying. I’m actually intruiged by anything and everything, and my life experiences tell me that I do need to hold onto some shred of hope that we can turn things around quickly, be it with Koobs, Cowher, or even the mighty Frank Bush! But I suspect that a great deal of change must take place somehow; first. That being said, I must wonder how much change Koobs would accept, or even allow for.

This is the reality of our insane scenario. Options are needed. Change (any and all changes) could remedy these ills. What do we really have to lose?

Note that I am indeed a long-time Broncomaniac (from Texas); one who finally jumped ship after the ill-timed Shanahan firing. Football owners make hasty changes all of the time. I just don’t see this as a bad time for change, not in the least… though we certainly need to be careful with how we change, lest we keep going in the same circles with yet another new cast of characters. I highly respect the patience that our organization has shown, but answers must be found soon, one way or another.

This is the NFL, after all. What have they done for us lately?…

You actually think Kubiak is a better coach than Cowher. Wow!

people look at the one or two teams that have had recent success in the first year with a new head coach and completely ignore teams like Buffaloe this year. If what fans really want is to win and win now, switching head coaches and/or going to a 3-4 next year are likely to set us back at least a year or two from going to the playoffs.

after 5 seasons…look where we are at.

are still going to say we are so close, well if we are we need a new coach to get us over the hump. kubiak has proven nothing to me. do you really think our offense is going to suck with teh schuab, dre, AF, Ben tate, and our laundry list of TE’s. and possibly another WR2. It ain’t that frigging hard to find an OL coach that knows zone blocking, until they get the personel they want in there.

give dick labeau all the credit you want. but, Bill Cower would not accept a effense like ours and kube’s just believes in our guys. it’s not going to change with just a new DC, the whole culture needs to change here. our young talented players deserve better than a Nice Guy OC as there head coach. Kubiak had the final say on putting the most inexperience DB sqaud on the field and for that alone he should be fired, not to mention the many other reasons.

But there’s just something about bringing in a “polar opposite D-Coordinator”, that takes me back to the good ol’ days of Buddy Ryan and Kevin Gilbride.

Mike Singletary’s no option. He’s not an X’s and O’s guy. He’s a good teacher for LBers (see: Willis, Patrick), but that’s about all you can expect from him.

Still better than Frank Bush though, but that’s not saying much. The “Rookie” AI on Madden games is better than Bush.

From TT (which, by the way, is Cowher fanboy central if you’re into that sort of thing)

I wrote an article yesterday on Battle Red Blog tackling all the issues and concerns against hiring Cowher. It’s succeeded in getting a lot of people over there in being okay to good with hiring Cowher now if the opportunity arises.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2010/12…her-power-hour

Check it if you got a sec.

I was only joking when I posted about Mike trying to get some editorial run off the back of an an epic thread and the SEO boost that comes with a large number of replies. Guess I was closer to the mark than I meant to be…

“That guy” bashes himself by opening his own mouth.