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Speaking to coaches and executives today, hearing rumblings of Wade Phillips possibly landing as coordinator in HOU w/ Kubiak as head coach. Many, myself included, figured the Texans collapse, including an on-field fight, would lead to a taskmaster taking over as head coach...But from what I've heard this morning, that might not be the end result there.

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Is Wade Phillips a Bum?

Feb 2010 from Barking Carnival - 13 comments

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Hell, if the choice is this or Smith staying and that shitty list

I’d be tempted to stick with Kubiak.

I think I’m gonna be ill.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?

by UprootedTexan on Dec 29, 2010 1:07 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

interesting

GO TEXANS!!!!

Our time will come...

by Texanmaniac on Dec 29, 2010 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

I was ok with it when the Texans were in the Playoff hunt

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Dec 29, 2010 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

^^ this

I’ve come to grips that Bob is not going to do what is necessary for the team. Wade is a step in the right direction…but considering Kubiaks ineptness at coaching one wonders if any positive result in the DC change would be negligible…my question is this: Can an above average to elite offense and an average to above average defense overcome the HC shortcomings?

by BleedBattleRed on Dec 29, 2010 1:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Ah, Wade Phillips.

There’s a guy with head coaching experience to mentor Kubes.

::kills self::

Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.

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by Autra on Dec 29, 2010 1:14 PM CST reply actions  

Hey

they are both natural coordinators, Wade has no idea how to run an offense, Kubiak has no idea what to do with a defense, it could work.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 29, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Now if they could keep Rick Smith's hands off the defense

We might have a shot!

/looks around

Who said that?

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?

by UprootedTexan on Dec 29, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Bobby

I’m not against Wade as DC. I’m against Wade AND Kubes here together. Two of the biggest “Yes Men” in the league.

by Mike Kerns on Dec 29, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

but I also agree with people who think that if Kubiak leaves, it might set the offense back some. In a perfect world, I would want Wade as DC, Kubiak as OC and someone better than both of them as HC.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 29, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Make that

In a perfect world where we have to have both Kubiak and Wade on the team together.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 29, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude! Everyone needs to quit using this excuse.

The offense is good, not great. They show flashes of greatness (Baltimore, Washington games) but they aren’t the juggernaut everyone here thinks they are. Juggernaut’s don’t have complete halves where they consistently score only 7 points or less.

And the great offensive players we have will remain, with or without Kubiak.

by Mike Kerns on Dec 29, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

They were far better...

Without Kubiak calling plays last season. I am still not a fan of Kubiak running the offense. Not one bit.

by Fuzion on Dec 29, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I know it's an excuse

but it just seems way too much like something that would happen to a Texans team, fix the defense and then the offense craps out. That’s probably the only reason that I give any credence to the excuse whatsoever. Kubiak (or Vicini) has pissed me off numerous times with his offensive game plan, so I know that it can be done better

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 29, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Wade can make our

defense mediocre, which is all we need to be in the playoffs. If we are dead set on keeping Kubiak, I’d want someone like Wade Phillips to come in as defensive coordinator.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 29, 2010 1:15 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Hey! That peanut vendor

Probably has a better defensive scheme than Frank Bush!

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?

by UprootedTexan on Dec 29, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Well,

Compared to the list from last night, I’m not quite as ready to jump off the building yet. I believe a lot of analysts are just throwing mud around trying to see what sticks. Agents are included in that, too, I suppose. After all, if the mediocre to bad coaches are going to get jobs by next season they need to work on publicity now.

by Fuzion on Dec 29, 2010 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

This is 10000000000000 times better

Than Sherman or Jackson.

We would change to a 3-4 though

by AllenOU on Dec 29, 2010 1:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Has wade ever run anything thats not a 3-4?

If not I think this is pointless and kubiak will probably be fired next year anyways

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 29, 2010 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldn't

if we had one person who could play lineman in a 3-4. With all the talent we need to add to the secondary needing to add a NT and two DE is really going to make this defense not sucking difficult.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 29, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

This defense doesn't have to get that much better for us to be playoff worthy

and I don’t think this defense will get any better next year if we switch to a 3-4 but I think it can if we stick with the 4-3

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 29, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I just can't see how adding 3 more black holes of suck to our defense is a good thing

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 29, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummmm...

> Shortened learning curve
> Instant assimilation into the efensive culture
> Long tradition to uphold
> Strong mentoring opportunities
  (e.g. KJ: “I find that if I’ll commit just a split-second too soon, that it positions me quite nicely to fall down when the receiver changes direction…”)
  (e.g. Antonio Smith: “I find that when things are already bad, that the easiest people on the field to fight are the ones that are wearing the same uniform as I am…”)
  (e.g. EWWW… never mind… too easy…)

"velocitas eradico"

by DilloTex on Dec 29, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

I think there is a chance he keeps his job since he is under contract and there might not be a season next year. An owner might not want to pay 2 head coaches without the guarantee of a season to coach.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 29, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I think that's the beauty of the idea.

Kubiak will end up having cover next year because he can hide behind "We’re trying battling to convert to a 3-4 defense. He’s a good kid defensive coordinator and all the problems will be on him, still. McNair, loyal as he is, will buy it, hook, line, and sinker.

I think I’m going to go sit in the corner and rock back and forth, thinking of my happy place.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!

A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?

by UprootedTexan on Dec 29, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Including an on-field fight?

AYFKM? That’s pathetic.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Dec 29, 2010 1:34 PM CST reply actions  

Who's "he" Mikey?

Kubiak? Phillips?

"velocitas eradico"

by DilloTex on Dec 29, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah... thx

My money is on Steph… Woman is trained to argue and rarely let’s her arguments get out in front of her facts…

"velocitas eradico"

by DilloTex on Dec 29, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

c/let's/lets

… grammar fail
/hating that

"velocitas eradico"

by DilloTex on Dec 29, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

NNnnhhh... I don't know you, I never met you, We were never acquainted...

/glances furtively over shoulder to see who’s listening
//begins to shamelessly hum “I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar…”
///looks for sturdy furniture to fortify behind

"velocitas eradico"

by DilloTex on Dec 29, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

When it comes to women, they never let the truth outweigh the need to win the argument

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by The Night Owl on Dec 30, 2010 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

sounds like someone needs to be burped....

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Dec 30, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

No, I've been raised around women all my life & have nothing but sisters

I know how they operate in arguments & why it’s best to avoid them

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by The Night Owl on Dec 30, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

You too?

3 Sisters (1 older, 2 younger) and no brothers have taught me one very important rule of thumb…

Let the women think they know what they are talking about and NEVER question them on it. You may ultimately know better, but it’s better to just think it than to acknowledge it in any shape or form openly.

by Fuzion on Dec 30, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

hmmmm

taking notes…

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Dec 30, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

I presume he’s referring to the Smith/Cushing purses-at-dawn event. It’s kind of hard to take him seriously if that’s the level of understanding he has of what went down.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 30, 2010 1:37 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I approve of this idea

Neither is a task master, but both are skilled co-ordinators.

A Texas Wannabe, born and raised in New Zealand. Currently located 7343miles South west of Houston.

by distant_texans_fan on Dec 29, 2010 1:43 PM CST reply actions  

Ugh

We’re never going to get what we want. Always some mixture of sucktitude.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Dec 29, 2010 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

Hell No

Choo Choo! Get on board the Marvin Lewis train for 2011 Defensive Coordinator.

by DaGoaT on Dec 29, 2010 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

So, now all rumors go through Jason La Canfora?

I surrender….

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Dec 29, 2010 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

They do on NFL.com

I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.

by Barryfromtexas on Dec 29, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

My question - Since when do all rumors go through NFL.com?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Dec 29, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

He's safe! No he's not! He's safe! No he's not! He's safe!

Every rumor monger is guaranteed to be right. They can always say, back on December 20-something, I said…… and I was right!… that time… before that time… after that other time… see?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Dec 29, 2010 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

I think we are all idiots

If we believe kubiak won’t be back. He will as will Rick smith, and a new DC. I’m actually all for wade Phillips in this scenario

by AllenOU on Dec 29, 2010 2:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sure that's what you say this hour....

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Dec 29, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you guys know....

Frank Bush picks up illegal immigrants from bars at 2am and takes them home to pee on him in the shower? That’s right, you heard it here first!!

A Texas Wannabe, born and raised in New Zealand. Currently located 7343miles South west of Houston.

by distant_texans_fan on Dec 29, 2010 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

did you hear that from NFL.com?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Dec 29, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

remember when that terrible list of potential replacements for kubes came out?

And all of you ran around pooping your pants for the rest of the day? And then you thought, “wait…this might be a smokescreen to make keeping kubiak seem less terrible.” That was yesterday. You’ve been had. By Barry Warner, Texans Ministry of Information.

Yes...as a matter of fact, that IS a pic of Steve McNair & Sahel Kazemi parasailing. Suck it, Titans fans.

by -Jay on Dec 29, 2010 4:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

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