Someone Called In The Cavalry
You’ve got to hand it to the Texans organization. They certainly make things interesting for folks who spend a great deal of their time writing or reading about the franchise. Never mind the fact that the on-the-field performance isn’t what has drawn attention for quite some time, at least for those that had their breaking point somewhere along the way while watching the predictably disappointing play this season. The terrible play has actually led to the current interesting state of affairs.
The obvious need for some sort of change mixed with little to no official information coming from the organization has led to everyone whose business or hobby it is to follow the football team to try and read the tea leaves. Kerns posted a good summary of various bloggers’ feelings earlier yesterday in regards to the two latest rumors at the time, which were a list of completely unpopular Gary Kubiak replacements to be picked by GM Rick Smith, and the addition of recently deposed Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator for the Kubiak-coached Texans next season.
The latest nugget that has flown under the radar for the most part is the recent visit by former Houston Oilers head coach Bum Phillips and quarterback Dan Pastorini to Texans practice. Bum Phillips is the closest thing this city has to a historical, revered football personality. Seemingly, he showed up at practice on a whim to support his former ball boy, Gary Kubiak. There’s a few things here that are odd though.
First thing that struck me was the complete lack of coverage by HoustonTexans.com. Usually the website does a fantastic job of covering everything that is positive towards the team ad nauseum. There’s pictures, movies quotes, etc. Yesterday the Houston coaching legend rated a 5 line blurb that simply stated he watched from the sideline with Bob McNair, his son Cal and General Manager Rick Smith. It also didn’t include any of Bum’s pretty interesting quotes. Luckily, Dale Robertson at the Chronicle did. Here’s some of the gouge:
"Gary Kubiak is as good a football coach as anybody, believe me," Phillips said. "You’re not going to get any better coach than him, and that’s one reason I wanted to come and watch his team practice. If you can still make your team practice like these kids practiced today in the last week of the season with nothing to look forward to, then believe me, he’s got control of the football team."
Gary Kubiak himself fielded some questions about the tenuous nature of his future as head coach. The usually ho-hum, "it’s on me" persona was nowhere to be seen though:
"I’m going to do this for a long time," he said. "I’m a good coach. I’ve got a lot to give. I know (fan unhappiness) is part of the business. When you get yourself in this position I’m in as head coach, these are things you’ve got to deal with. So I will deal with them the right way, and I’ll come out of it a better football coach. I understand it’s part of the deal."
Kudos to Robertson, who did cover the obvious angle that recent rumors have indicated that Bum’s son Wade would be taking over as defensive coordinator for Gary Kubiak, who would in turn get one more season. Asked about the possibility of his son joining the Texans, Bum said:
"I know he’s going to coach again," Phillips said. "Wade don’t know how to enjoy anything except football. A lot of people play golf or gamble or go hunting or fishing. ... All he cares about is football. As long as he feels that way, I’m sure he’ll stay in it. If (the Texans) need a coach, I’m sure he’d be tickled to death, and I’m sure they would be, too. Wade’s a Houston boy."
Many Texans writers and fans have been leery about hiring a defensive coordinator or head coach for next season that runs a 3-4 defense, as the Texans currently do not have the personnel suited for that style. Bum even went as far to address this issue when asked:
"Sure. They played the 4-3 a lot of places Wade’s been, like Philadelphia. You play the defense that fits your personnel."
Ok, there are a few options for what’s going on. One option is that Gary Kubiak has become exceptionally nervous after the loss to the Broncos and all the rumors of his impending firing. This nervousness caused him to change his stance on defending himself to the media and call an old friend to show some support. That old friend just happened to go above and beyond when asked about his son serving as defensive coordinator, because who wouldn’t try to get their own child a job that seems attractive?
If this is the case, I have to take my hat off to Gary. It is a well played move that shows tactical intelligence on a level not normally utilized by Kubiak on Sundays. By calling in Bum, you immediately gather some support from Houstonians that remember the glory, Luv Ya Blue days, and at the same time give credence to the recent rumors about his son. By doing so, you give Bob McNair the chance to gauge public opinion and if that reaction is favorable, it possibly saves your job.
It seems like more than that though. First, you have the rumor come out that Kubiak will be fired and Rick Smith will stay to choose from three coaching prospects who are undesirable to the average Texans fan. Then a rumor gets loose that Wade Phillips, a not-so-good head coach but a bona fide defensive coordinator, is going to team up with the head coach that can run a great offense but doesn’t know defense from a hole in the ground. Then, you have his daddy show up the same day, talk about what a great idea it is, and the team’s official media outlet doesn’t cover any of it. I hate to sound like Jim Garrison, but all of these rumors and events seem to be connected.
I also have to admit that for me personally, it worked. Not because I fell for the ruse of Troy Calhoun, but because I can see that this organization is stuck in its ways, and by that I mean stuck hiring people from Bob McNair’s trusted circle. I personally would love to see the whole thing blown up and someone brought in that is going to completely shake things up, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. And if it’s not, and the options are (1) keep Kubiak and hire a defensive coordinator from the circle of trust or (2) fire the coaching staff, keep the front office and hire a Gary Kubiak clone with a less impressive resume, I choose the former.
Never mind the fact that Wade was just fired from one of the most historically lax organizations in sports for having no discipline or accountability. Also, Bum was nice enough to point out that Wade ran a 4-3 in Philadelphia, but that was the only time he ever did in his six stops as a defensive coordinator.
I’m going to write another post on what Phillips as a DC would be like for the Texans, but for now I’d like to get your opinion on my conspiracy theory. Do you think it’s a done deal, or do these events not have any connection to the ownership? Furthermore, if they do have connection, what is your opinion?
Late Edit: As Kerns pointed out in the comments, the official website has added a video with one of the Bum Phillips quotes listed above, but doesn't show the rest of the interview.
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I don't think it's a done deal.
Yet. Im not in favor of Wade Phillips as DC, but im not completely against it. Does that make sense?
Bum was right about one thing though. You play a scheme that fits your personnel. We all know that Frank Bush wasn’t capable of doing that. And i’d like to believe that Wade Phillips can maximize the talent in our defensive roster, 4-3 or not.
If things do turn out that way, I tip my hat to the Texans organization.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
by Jordann on Dec 30, 2010 9:15 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
i think it's a smart move.
say what you want about Koobz, but the guy has multiple superbowl rings. he’s NOT however, a defensive coordinator. as a head coach, wade is SHIT. but as a coordinator, he’s money. i may be in the minority, but i LOVE koobz and im hoping that Bob brings in someone who will completely take over the defense.. and make them play well. a lot of it is just BAD technique. coaches attract other coaches which attract players. if wade comes in, i GUARANTEE there will be guys who will flock to houston for the chance to play for him.
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by chrisd21 on Dec 30, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
I don't love Kubiak
But this is how I lean.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Any time I begin to think how I love
Kubes and his offense I think: half back pass, botched basic clock management, botched game plans, botched crucial play calls.
Do I love him compared to some wannabe Raiders coordinator? Hell yes. Am I ready to give someone else a chance? Yes.
"Welcome to the show where everything is made up and the points don't matter. That's right, the points are just like the Texans' defense" - Bring Whose Line back!
by RocketsAstros on Dec 30, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Name one coach who never screws up or never makes a bone-headed call
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Usually people tend to learn from their screw ups and bone-headed calls...
Kubiak seems to perfect them
by Crazy Eye Killa on Dec 30, 2010 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'm warming up to the idea myself
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I like the discussion
But, I disagree with the theory of these events all being connected or even being related to the team. The biggest issue I have is the supposedly leaked report from yesterday that said Smith would be retained and he had a short list of names, that were leaked, of inferior candidates for Head Coach. I fail to believe that the Houston Texans would put the names of those individuals out on the street for testing public sentiment. The Houston Texans have too much respect for other individuals. They are an above board organization. They would not intentionally make these individuals lives uncomfortable in any way for the purpose of testing their fanbase. I can’t buy that at all. That report was obviously fictitious and fabricated by a media-type who just wanted to sit back and get a good laugh as the story made the rounds.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Dec 30, 2010 9:20 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
I agree with this. ▲
I think the Texans are way too classy an organization to stoop to dropping names of potential replacements.
Way too classy?
This is a multi-billion dollar enterprise… classiness doesn’t even equate. It’s cut-throat. I don’t care how nice or “classy” Bob McNair or Gary Kubiak appear. I guarantee you they can be cut-throat. Get over the nice guy crap and the billionaire who’s “just an average guy”. It’s not the case. It’s about money – bottom line. The NFL is a business. McNair is a business man. And he’s been pretty successful, and I seriously doubt he did it by being “classy”.
by Crazy Eye Killa on Dec 30, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with sounding like Jim Garrison, IMO.
I hate that this might happen, but that comes as a shock to no one. I got nothing against Bum as a coach and a Houston Sports Icon. The guy is a legend. But he is an 87 year old man whose interviews are almost unbearable because he is so far gone. I doubt he spends any time watching film on this team or if he could even name a Texans DT. I don’t think his opinion of “not finding a better coach than Kubiak” holds any water. But I’m sure Bob won’t see it that way.
Your Ruse Won't Work On Me Or Bum, Kerns
Bum can’t name a Texans DT because there are no Texans DTs.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Dec 30, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Good counter-point.
You should be a lawyer, Tim.
by Mike Kerns on Dec 30, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There was an article on Comicle a couple of months ago that mentioned that
he watches as many Texans, and Cowboys games as possible. Live on his TV.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
There seems to be an awful lot of media types regurgitating the Phillips to Houston bit
Somebody up top must think it’s a good idea. I sincerely hope that retarded list of failures and Raiders staff was just unsubstantiated crap.
It's starting to seem like this idea of Wade being our next DC is becoming more plausible day by day
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It's very plausible
Wade Phillips has TX roots, he has Texans connections, he’s a DC, he’s available…. stop me when I get off base. Yes, it makes a lot of sense and it is a thought that a lot of us fans would likely come around to. Wade could put the “D” back in efense. That is the biggest need of this team. It was monumentally bad this season and scheme-wise it was never going to be good. The players, while not all All-Pros, were only following directions from the coaches. They were put on spots where they weren’t effective. I’m not saying they couldn’t have done better on their own, but if you take the teeth out of the dog, he won’t even fetch a bone let alone tear up a bunny….naw, that one won’t catch on, but you get my drift.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Dec 30, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"The players, while not All-Pros, were only following directions from the coaches.
Sounds like the set-up for a bad joke.
Person A: So tell me, how bad is your defense?
Person B: How bad is our defense? Our defense is so bad, it’s the only one in NFL history to use the Nuremburg defense for it’s suckiness.
/rimshot
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?
by UprootedTexan on Dec 30, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
but if you take the teeth out of the dog, he won’t even fetch a bone let alone tear up a bunny….naw, that one won’t catch on, but you get my drift.
Maybe if you try: “let alone tear up a stuffed bunny…”
it will work better.
How about "...he won't even fetch a bone let alone catch a Mack truck..."
Although I must say that the whole “fetching” thing is a bit passe… I mean, if you wanted it… Why did you throw it? I’m just sayin’…
"velocitas eradico"
Bob is taking this "Good ol' Boys" thing to a new level

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawww!!!
by Mike Kerns on Dec 30, 2010 9:47 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
The car?
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?
by UprootedTexan on Dec 30, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Just harsh and uncalled for...
/makes note to pee on UT’s tires when opportunity presents itself
"velocitas eradico"
I had been about to say the hat.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?
by UprootedTexan on Dec 30, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
You guys make me giggle like a schoolgirl.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Yes sirrrrrrr… Bob and the good ol’ boys network. And Houston loves it’s good ol’ boys…
by Crazy Eye Killa on Dec 30, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
It seems like the biggest disservice this organization has done
is give Kubiak so much control. Id say no wonder he has such a hard time coaching when he also has full say in personnel, hired both coordinators and gave the GM his job. If no one can call Kubes on his BS then there is no balance of power and therefore Kubiak is like our president of operations. I will not mind if Kubes stays as long as Rick Smith is fired and both coordinators and people are brought in that arent puppets.
by theSpaceCityKid on Dec 30, 2010 9:50 AM CST reply actions
I say the chances Kubiak stays & Rick Smith is fired
Is as likely as me having a threesome with Christina Hendricks & Megan Fox.
by Mike Kerns on Dec 30, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Well the chances are good in my favor....
Cause I’ve done it!!!
by Texans-4-life on Dec 30, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Yes to Christina Hendricks
But no to Megan Fox. I’ll replace her with Scarlett Johanssen. Or Jenny Skavlan.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
mmm christina and scarlett
no i must clean my chonis
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
Why replace when you can add?
Frank Bush delenda est
by JimboTexan on Dec 30, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OT
does any one know that Daryl Sharpton is on IR?
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Found out last night
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by The Night Owl on Dec 30, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
I think I heard it was a shoulder injury... and...
…they are reaching DEEEP into the depth chart for a replacement.
"velocitas eradico"
Pancakes just tweeted:
I believe Gary Kubiak will return for his 6th year and that Wade Phillips will be his new defensive coordinator.
And he still guarantees the Texans won’t draft Cushing and will draft Ryan Mathews.
If it's pancakes
I’m sure he meant Ryan Mathews the linebacker. What a fuck noodle
by AllenOU on Dec 30, 2010 11:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Kerns is Pancakes' "source" !!!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Dec 30, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I lol'ed
"Welcome to the show where everything is made up and the points don't matter. That's right, the points are just like the Texans' defense" - Bring Whose Line back!
by RocketsAstros on Dec 30, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
So basically...
There’s one thing we know for sure…
Kubiak and Phillips will be coaching together next season with the Texans.
or
Kubiak and Phillips won’t be coaching together next season with the Texans.
Pancakes can’t be counted as a credible source nor can his beliefs be counted as anything other than really nasty wet dreams.
In conclusion…I still say Mike Sherman is the Texans new coach (because Pancakes tried to disprove it as a possibility, thus making it entirely 100% accurate) and Wade Phillips and Kubiak will be coaching elsewhere (very likely Denver).
That guarantees it
Not gonna happen.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Somone needs to take the twitter away
From Pancakes. He needs a filter.
Frank Bush delenda est
If he had a filter, he wouldn't have a column on the Comicle.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?
by UprootedTexan on Dec 30, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
OH NO! No mistake...
…just too restricted a population… Filters are required for Pancakes, LDJA12, ESPN, Steve Tasker, anyone with the last name of “Gumbel”, “Gruden” or “Musberger”… the list goes on and on…
"velocitas eradico"
Get me any elk yet?
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
after the sun had set and it was no longer legal to shoot, city slicker.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I misread your comment
Nothing to see here. Move along now.
"Eff you mothereffer!"
-Bernard Pollard-
Oh, wait....have you been practicing your tenpin?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Shit!
No. I’ll drag the boy out next week.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Wade
A couple of things:
If I recall correctly, Wade was Marty Shottenhiemer’s DC when he took over the gig in San Diego a few years back. They went from something like 5-11 to 11-5 in one year. But the most impressive part was that they beat the shit out of Peyton Manning in the playoffs…….sacked him at least 7000 times. Obviously a different set of chess pieces, but, the most salient point Bum made was to use the personnel on hand. That’s what Wade did in San Diego.
Yah, the timing smelled a bit fishy but PR sometimes does. I truly believe had Wade been the DC all year we wouldn’t have lost half the games we did and we wouldn’t be talking about Kubiak hitting the door.
I don't think anyone is contesting Wade as our DC
It is having him paired with Kubes that is undesirable.
They're two of the biggest "Yes Men" in the league
And at least 98% of the fan base is done with GK. So, not undesirable to EVERYONE, just the majority.
66% favor torching Kubiak per the last poll...
…although we might need to do that poll again…
And I’d be interested to see how the polling shook out on these options:
1) Retain Kubiak & hire Wade as DC
2) Retain Rick Smith, fire Kubiak and take our chances rebuilding
3) Dump them all and start over
"velocitas eradico"
Hey, do a new one! I don't mind.....just make sure you have an "Other" selection!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
It's out there... no "other" section, tho...
…mainly because I can’t envision what the “other” option would be.
So, I just wanna’ see how the numbers break out with WP thrown into the mix… If the fanbase in general (however representative the polling sample may be) is just so fed up with Koobs that they want a fresh start or if there is still enough lingering curiosity to let him hang around for another year and see what having a competent DC around could do for things.
"velocitas eradico"
Even if there is no other, I'm sure you'll get other opnions...
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Oh sure and that's fine...
But I just want to see how the counts break out in a “zero-sum” game. The discussion is bonus time.
As I commented with the poll… There are no “sure things” in life so to select “blow it up” you have to accept that you don’t get to ASSUME that “the Chin” is available. You have to be sick enough of the current regime to accept the crap-shoot that starting over implies.
"velocitas eradico"
Love the cynical thinking
No, you’re right to believe there is a connection. This is the package we’re being sold right now and none of it is coincidental. McNair does not want to bring in an outsider that will make the necessary changes. Instead he wants to once again pull from the inner circle to right the ship. The question is, how do we feel about that?
For me I’m split between two solid, and very possible scenarios……
1. Mr. McNair makes a bold move to go in a completely different direction and hires a Cowher, Dungy, Gruden type to rebuild all facets of the team. This option would be the most favorable to the majority of a fan base that is, to say the least, exhausted by roller coaster mediocrity. They want someone with a pedigree that can build a true winner, and not a paper champ.
This is also the option that would cost the most, and come with considerable risk……not Bob’s usual M.O.
2. The more likely scenario. Bob keeps Kubiak and brings in Wade Phillips to be DC. Not a completely terrible idea to be honest. I think we can all agree that even saying Wade is an exceptional DC is an understatement. And although he’s not a good HC in my opinion, he does bring that experience and knowledge with him as well. Hopefully between the two of them, Wade and Gary could figure out those perplexing coaching issues together and be a decent, two-headed HC. Maybe they could elevate this roster enough to get over the hump and into the playoffs.
The problem I have with that should be obvious with most. Neither Phillips nor Kubiak have shown a propensity for discipline and accountability, so why should I believe any different for the Texans? Yes, it’s true that we might have been a playoff team if our defense had been even average, but it’s also true that we lost some games because of coaching too.
I’m not exactly overwhelmed with confidence that we would win a post season game even if we were good enough to get there. Let’s say for the sake of argument that we fall on our faces again, what then? Kubiak finally gets fired and McNair promotes Wade? Rinse and repeat.
I guess what I’m saying is I would much rather pay the big money (after all, McNair’s team is the 5th most profitable sports organization, thanks to his fan base) and get Cowher in here. At least then I know the coaching tree has produced consistent title contenders. I don’t want a paper champion like the Cowboys under Phillips. I want a hard nosed, tough as nails, big hitting winner. If Bob can promise me that with Wade and Gary then I’m willing to listen, but he also needs to understand that his fan base is an intelligent one, and most of us know what’s worth spending our money on.
Give us a damn winner Bob.
.02
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
by Hydroshock on Dec 30, 2010 2:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm still holding onto the 1% hope
That these reports are bunk and Kubes will be fired on Black Monday.
1% and diminishing.
Cowher, Schottenheimer, McDermott, John Harris from 1560...
Hell, I’d take Grimace from fucking McDonald’s right now…
…by the way, what the hell is Grimace?
an eggplant?
Seriously, Cowher and Lewis would be WAY better than Phillips and Kubiak.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
What the hell does an eggplant have to do with McDonalds?
Cowher & Lewis would have me not only renewing my season tickets, but upgrading.
Last I heard
He was free-basing sweet and sour sauce packets and living in a house made of old styrofoam Big Mac containers down by the river.
I think Hamburglar is his “sauce” connection, Birdie, saddest of all, is turning tricks out on Montrose, I think.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?
by UprootedTexan on Dec 30, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Oh...it said "what IS Grimace, not what happened"
Reading fail.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
A word of advice for Texans fans. Remember John Milton's Paradise Lost: The mind is its own place. It can make a Hell of Heaven and a Heaven of Hell. Kinda sums up the last nine years, doesn't it?
by UprootedTexan on Dec 30, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
Except for one point that I keep seeing others make as well. Just because Wade comes in as DC doesn’t make him heir apparent at HC if Kubiak gets fired. I know we are all pessimistic right now and are full of nightmares like this, but that seems to be jumping the gun a bit. If Kubiak is given another year and fails you could still either A) Hire a different HC and possibly keep Wade as DC, or B) Completely clean house without this “rinse & repeat” scenario
True
It’s all just wild speculation at this point, and I’m just basing mine on McNair’s past reluctance to pull the trigger on a big fish, plus his tendency to sway toward candidates with ties to Houston.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I am overcome with ho hum about this move
I believe that the Texans need to score 40 points in every game to be competetive because of efense.
As far as free agents are concerned, here's who I would target if I was GM
Alan Branch – NT – 25 – ARI
Space eating NT, check, budget friendly, I hope so
Sam Koch – P – 28 – BAL
Didn’t he kill us on field positioning? We should grab him if we have a shot
Richard Marshall – CB – 25 – CAR
Young CB on the rise
Danieal Manning – FS – 28 – CHI
Veteran FS with speed & KR/PR skills, could be nice depth
Champ Bailey – CB – 32 – DEN
Our secondary needs a leader & mentor, he fits both roles
Robert Mathis – DE – 29 – IND
Wouldn’t Schaub be happy to see him in practice instead of across from Freeney?
Richard Seymour – DT/DE – 30 – OAK
Veteran leadership on the DL, could be an awesome UT next to Branch
Tyvon Branch – SS – 23 – OAK
Great speed & ballhawking skills at SS, could be a FS here & compliment Pollard well
Manny Lawson – OLB – 26 – SF
Wouldn’t Mario love to reunite with his old college teammate?
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I find this interesting and frustrating
because many of us mentioned Marshall and Manning last year as I believe they were both restricted free agents and could have been had for for reasonable picks + new contract. Marshall for a 2 looks pretty good in hindsight compared to Tate, but Pancakes kept telling us they didn’t want “over the hill” players…
Last I checked, 25 ain't over the hill, not even in the NFL
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by The Night Owl on Jan 1, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
If Kubiak Stays ( which He will) and Wade Phillips becomes the heir to the Throne as DC
The Texans will lure some big time free agents on Defense… Then we can use the draft to get a great Slot Reciever… Some O line help … and please god give us a veteran FA QB who can teach Matt and press him for the job if he is lacking…
Then we can get Dickerson up to speed so that the doubles on Dre’ are fewer.
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Instead of trying to find a veteran QB
Why not just try to hire Kurt Warner as a QB Coach?
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by The Night Owl on Dec 31, 2010 12:44 AM CST up reply actions
Warner would be good...but....
Most Great QB’s especially in their infancy have a veteran back there teaching, pushing, and ready to go. We were luck this year… Matt was not injured ( says something about the O line…) but I wouldn’t bet the farm that that will continue… A solid back-up is a must in this league ( and I just prefer a veteran journeyman) Look at Pittsburgh ( a cuss word to us Luv Ya Blue Fans) No Rothelisburger for the first four games but because they had Charlie Batch, and Byron Leftwitch they were set and won games… They also had Dennis Dixon a second year QB, but it was the journeymen that provided the leadership and they never missed a beat. Houston had Tony Banks who was a winner when Carr went down… and last year we had Grossman…. Orlosky or Lienart aren’t that kind of guy…
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What kind of comeback was that?
and last year we had Grossman
Grossman is the ultimate boom/bust QB in the NFL, & you’d never know what you’d get week to week with him, not exactly the ideal backup. If Josh Johnson is out there on the market, he’s the guy I’d want for a backup
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by The Night Owl on Dec 31, 2010 1:54 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed
But Schaub is what, 28? Shouldn’t he be past the “mentoring” stage and we should just worry about competency at backup QB?
We also need to get rid of the special teams coordinator and defensive backs coach.
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Totally agreed on the DB coach...
…and totally agreed that special teams sucked this year… Just confused as to why the big drop off… As little as I know about Xs and Os in general, I know even LESS about the subtleties of what drives a successful special teams effort.
Maybe Rivers or one of the other analysts will enlighten us as to what is driving our bad special teams production.
"velocitas eradico"
I think it has more to do with the rule change on the wedges
Marciano didn’t adjust to the rule well & our return game suffered for it. Don’t think we ever got called for an illegal wedge penalty though
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by The Night Owl on Dec 31, 2010 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
We got called for one...
Although I think we will be better with Holiday back next season and Slaton out of here. I expect Jacoby to be gone also.
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Jacoby
I have heard WR1 and WR2 have a different skillset.
Jacoby was non existent outside of his TDs the last few years, but he had a great game when replacing AJ at WR1 last week.
Is he simply better at the WR1 position? Trade bait?
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
I noticed this too
I’m sure it depends on team/scheme/personnel but it looked like at WR2 they tried having him run a lot of the routes Walter would run, and a possession receiver Jacoby is not…
I hear that we cannibalized special teams to help out the defense
When I talked to my father about how bad I thought special teams had been this year, he suggested that we lost Kevin Bently to the defense b/c we’d gotten so thin on the efense.
So when your coach loses his best special teams maven to help out the defense .. not much left to work with.
by BattleRedFan on Dec 31, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
I think it also speaks to our depth
specifically that we had none, so our 2nd and 3rd stringers aren’t NFL caliber, which in turn speaks to our GM/HC.
"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK
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