Mocking The Draft: The Texans' First Two Picks In The 2010 NFL Draft Will Be...
by Tim on Feb 22, 2010 10:30 AM CST
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PrintBrian Price and Chad Jones. SB Nation's official site for all things NFL Draft took their first stab at a mock draft a few days ago, and Dan says the Texans will go with Price in the first round and Jones in the second round. I've already e-mailed Dan my thoughts about the Price selection (they'll be published on MTD later), and I imagine the majority of BRB will have an opinion on the thought of Smithiak adding Brian Price and/or Chad Jones to the squad. Heck, I imagine many of you will have an opinion on the notion of Sam Bradford going first overall to the Rams.
A challenge to you: Assume with me that the nineteen players Dan has going before the Texans go on the clock are actually gone. Who do the Texans take with that twentieth pick? I'd go with Mike Iupati or Kyle Wilson in that scenario.
Same thing for the fiftieth or fifty-first pick--if the forty-nine or fifty players Dan predicts will be off the board are actually off the board, who would the Texans take with their second-rounder? I say Brandon Ghee or Perrish Cox.
Fire away in the Comments below. It's draft season, people!
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CB in the second round
Easily, any of the available CBs would be chosen over safety. Cox, Warren, Ghee, or Franks are all available and would be a good choice. Not to mention, I would rather have Nate Allen (who is available as well in this scenario) over Chad Jones if we went safety.
As far as the first round, this is by far the worst case scenario for the Texans as no one fell to them that makes them the obvious choice. This is when trading down is the best bet. I say no to Kyle Wilson. He’s not that much better than any of the CBs that are available in the second round, plus I think he’s a reach at the 20th spot. Iupati looked like he couldn’t pass block in the Senior Bowl. While I would be hesitant to take him at the spot, if Smithiak drafted him, they must see something that they can work with. Actually, in that mock, I see the Steelers taking Iupati over Bruce Campbell. Iupati is a big mauler of a Guard that seems just like the kind of player the Steelers would want and need to help their running game. Then if they passed on Bruce Campbell, I would say that Campbell becomes the easy choice for the Texans.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions
It'll probably change after the combine...
But I like CB Patrick Robinson, Florida St. in the 1st (since Dan Williams is gone) A new Robinson to replace the old one.
I really want a DT/NT, but with this board left I would probably like G Mike Johnson, Alabama in the 2nd.
I wouldn't say "Love" per se
I like him. I think he has talent, But I am not content with Reeves and Quin as our starting secondary. I think CB should be a serious need and should be addressed early. I’m still hoping for Dan Williams to slide to us, but with what was available in this particular mock, I would take P-Rob.
yes i want dan williams too
i agree with you. i think p rob is the second most talented, but he is so inconsistent. i wouldnt take him at 20, but if we could go to 26-28 and pick up a third i think that would be ok.
NOT A FAN OF KYLE WILSON…..AT ALL
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
If we grab Kyle Wilson in the second,
then I’d alright with Wilson. He’s not terrible like you imply, but a bit overrated probably. But I would not take him in the first.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
In the same boat I am
I don’t think he is bad but I am always suspicious of a guy who was a late 2nd rounder and has a few good Senior Bowl practices and suddenly has the hype machine in full force.
www.manningface.com
Exactly
Because he did well, I feel better about him. I see him comparable to Ghee, Cox, and Franks then. But I’m not going to make him jump into the first round because of that.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
To me
He’s a lot like Sean Smith or Connor Barwin last year. He’s getting up there on the strength of practices, but he’ll come back down to earth. I’d be surprised if he actually goe in the first. That said, I actually like him- just like I liked Connor Barwin and Sean Smith last year.
So you are saying he will fall to the 2nd and end up being a good pickup for someone but won’t have a big impact till near the end of the year? If so I agree. I think teams are pretty wary of the whole workout warrior thing these days.
www.manningface.com
I have news
Connor Barwin hasn’t proven anything yet. The jury is still out on whether he was a good 2nd round pick. Not talking trash here. It’s just that he has a long way to go still to support where he was picked. And, Barwin did move up in the draft to round 2 based on his workouts. He was considered one of the workout warriors at last years Combine.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I’m less worried about that in the 2nd then I am in the first. In the last 6 games he had 3.5 sacks and 2 passes defended. I’m not saying he is established, but he was certainly showing flashes of why he got drafted where he did.
www.manningface.com
I can see where you are coming from
In the first, you want the complete player. Not a project player with a huge bust potential. So as you progress through the draft, you are more likely to grab a player with raw talent over a productive player who has already reached his potential?
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 23, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
That first pick is way too valuable to be taking a chance. Honestly I’m still not super happy they went for a project guy like barwin with their 2nd pick, but I don’t know if there was anyone else available that made sense at the time that would have had a bigger impact.
www.manningface.com
Right
That’s kind of my opinion on Wilson
The thing is
we could probably get Patrick Robinson in the second. However, I would take almost any other corner over him. He’s a soft corner and he seems to be get burned in coverage a lot.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
we def disagree on wilson
but i think you are spot on with p rob. he does have those couple of plays a game that ,ake you say, WOW, that was impressive
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
What do you not like about Kyle Wilson?
Let’s continue this discussion of CBs.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't like Kyle Wilson as a 1st round pick either
Unless we’re desperate for corners come draft time. Mostly that’s due to a combination of his lack of size and the fact that he’s probably going to be better suited to playing man than zone because he has a hard time covering his man and keeping his eye on the rest of the field at the same time.
That’s the same problem Reeves has, which shows up when he’s running with a reciever and gets lost when he needs to turn and locate the ball. That same ability is also required in order to cover the deep man in your zone while still keeping eye on the underneath. Playing zone is more about field vision and anticipation than man cover skills, Wilson has the latter in spades but not so much of the former that i’ve seen.
On the good side though, right now he’s fast and athletic enough to recover from alot of his mistakes, just as Robinson was able to do pre-injury… You’d run the risk of him getting hurt or losing a step and not being able to adapt though, so while I think he could be a decent pick up for the Texans, I think we’d have to be desperate to pick him at #20 in the first.
i think this mock
is worst case for the texans.
i really REALLY do no like price as a first rounder. AT ALL.
i guess in this situation we woult take iupati or try and trade down to snag dwyer.
in the second its NATE ALLEN all the way. ive been talking up this guy for months, and think he would be great next to pollard.
then in the third maybe franks or one of the CBs that fall a bit
i think P robinson has all the talent in the world but i wouldnt touch the guy
i like franks, cos, warren, and mcghee better than wilson and p rob.
also wouldnt be opposed to pouncey in the late first with a trade down then cox/allen in the second
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Nate allen
You and everyone else who wants us to take a safety in the 2nd wants us to take him. I say its a wasted pick with the CBs that are going to be available to us in the 2nd.
www.manningface.com
you know what
i think i have to agree with you. the second-third round CB crop is pretty, pretty, pretty deep
good call nolander
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
also the ryan matthew picks right before us
is a big kick in the nuts
love that guy….
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
To be different
1st round- Sean Weatherspoon: He’d likely be an instant improvement at WLB and would definitely help improve our underneath coverage… coverage aint all about CBs and Safeties afterall.
2nd round- Brandon Ghee: He’s raw but his overall talent level is right on par, if not more so, than any other CB in this class.
A Ryans-Cushing-Weatherspoon linebacker unit would be killer and would grow together for the next 10 years or so. Weatherspoon would add the one thing we don’t have at LB now, excellent cover skills… the guy could almost play strong safety for crying out loud. It would also improve the speed of the unit, which is very important with the scheme we use now.
Ghee is a guy who’ll probably take a year or two to develop but very possibly could end up being the best CB taken in this class after 3 years or so, to get that in the 2nd round isn’t a bad deal at all.
Umm...yeh, Brian Price isn't happening
Charles Brown or Mike Iupati in Round 1.
and in Round 2, I like Mike Johnson, Navorro Bowman or Ciron Black.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Trade down
and snag Iupati anyways. I remember all the hype around a couple of the centers last year, and yet the all fell into the 2nd anyways.
www.manningface.com
Off Topic...
I hope he ends up with the Ravens.
Even though he didn’t end well with us, I still want to see the guy succeed. The Ravens have the kind of scheme to cover up how bad their CBs are. Perfect for Dunta.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
In that case
I’m officially wetting my pants
1st round- Wilson
2nd round- Warren
I changed 2nd round pick to Warren because we need a CB who’s NFL ready now unless we pick up one in free agency or trade, and changed the 1st out of a fit of hysteria.
You would think you'd wet your pants when Dunta is on the field...
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes
But then I take into consideration that he was on the field because he was the best we had, and the dams are unleashed
You're right, the Texans would never keep playing a defensive player who isn't as good as his backups based on salary or potential.
by riversmccown on Feb 22, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not when the player is on a one year rental contract
They could have simply dropped the tag on him before the season started if he wasn’t as good as his backups, and after the season was under way they were under no real pressure to play a guy whose contract was up at the end of the season anyway.
Johnson, Weaver, and Greenwood were all the best we had at the time, if not which one of their backups was deserving of a starting role?
1st round – Trade down with San Diego for their 1st and 3rd round picks; Draft OT Charles Brown
2nd round – CB Brandon Ghee
Entire draft scenario - If I ran the Texans
1st round – Trade down from pick 20 with San Diego for their 1st and 3rd round picks. Draft USC OT Charles Brown
2nd round – Wake Forest CB Brandon Ghee
2nd round – Trade TE Owen Daniels to Cincinnati for their 2nd and 5th round picks. North Carolina NT Cam Thomas
3rd round – Baylor C J.D. Walton
3rd round – From San Diego Alabama CB Javier Arenas
4th round – Tennessee RB Montario Hardesty
5th round – Utah FS Robert Johnson
5th round – From Cincinnati Bowling Green WR Freddie Barnes
6th round – Texas Tech OG Brandon Carter
6th round – From San Diego (Travis Johnson) Utah OLB Sylvester Stevenson
7th round – Penn State TE Mickey Shuler
not bad at all my friend
i think the OD situation is gonna get bad….real bad. not sure about charles brown…
but your 3.3.4.5 round picks make me chris white myself
huge fan of weatherspoon
and wilson as a first round corner – NO THANK YOU
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Seeing how it went with Dunta
I feel like it could be a benefit to see who out there is in need of a TE. I’m with you…I think this gets bad.
so how good can casey be next year
i would think as good as OD would be coming off the ACL
its the year AFTER next that worries me.
i love casey but he is still raw
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Casey would back-up JD
As we saw, JD got better with each game. Yes, he wasn’t targeted at first and then he dropped a few. However, he really played well in the final 2 games. That’s the only reason I feel comfortable giving him the starting job. That and it gets Casey more playing time.
dressen is fine
but the explosiveness of a OD or even CASEY is something i think we would miss. but i guess in your scenario casey takes over after this year if all goes as planned.
id rather pay DR than OD. demeco not cunta
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
I'm glad you clarified that. Yes, pay DeMeco
As far as Dressen or OD, I think Dressen can hold the position well enough, but he does not give us the same red zone threat that OD is. Maybe Casey can develop into that, then OD is expendable. However, I would like for him to stay.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
If Casey
Could block I’d be fine with that. As is whenever he’s out there it telegraphs our play. Of course, OD’s not an amazing blocker either. Still, I’d rather we hold onto OD than trade him. I do think it’s going to get ugly because the Texans are not going to let him get to his payday, and he is going to be pissed about that.
Everyone on a .500 team can't get paid like a top 3 player....
That’s just a sad fact that these players have to realize. Heck, everyone on a 11-5 team can’t get paid like a top 3 player. Posture all they want. Teams have to maintain their system, they have to maintain their payroll, and they have to maintain their record. Players complaining in public that they aren’t paid enough, become yesterday’s players.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Players that complain in public
hurt their causes more than help them.
by TexansDC on Feb 22, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know of many of those guys past the fifth round
but the rest looks pretty good. I don’t think the Bengals use a tight end enough for them to trade for one, but I know the Ravens are looking for one. They’d probably just all over a player like Daniels.
Also, what do you think of Arenas? I thought about taking another CB in the third if we had another third round pick (because we have to grab Walton with our pick in the third), but just wondering on the other corners who may be available and how Arenas stacks up against them.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Arenas is a bit small
but he plays hard and plays smart to make up for it. I think starting Arenas in the slot would be good for him.
Past the 5th? Well, Brandon Carter is a lineman. Big, imposing, nasty and he has shown he can protect a QB. He’ll need work on his run blocking, but at the bare minimum he can protect teh Schaub.
Stevenson is a fast OLB who can hang with TEs. That’s why I took a chance on him in round 6.
Shuler’s been called a great blocker…and he’s a TE. We have to take at least 1. It didn’t feel right otherwise.
You said the magic words about Stevenson
Fast and can hang with TEs, I’ll take it. How is Arenas speed? So in this scenario, you have Ghee potentially becoming the #1, Quin as #2, and Arenas in the slot? Just seeing what you think of what we already have and what we gain.
And I think protection of Schaub is more important than better run blocking, so if Carter can do that, then good.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Arenas seems pretty fast
We’ll find out in a few days how fast he is on the 40. Ghee, as Bryan said, has the potential to be a legit #1 CB. I’ve seen some youtube video and think he’d be immensely better than Dunta (not saying much) once he’s NFL-adjusted. Ghee, Quin, Arenas, and McCain make for a good 4-some at CB although the growing pains will be there.
Does that make Reeves expendable?
I would not be heart broken if Reeves got cut, and makes a lot of sense if it happens because of his price tag. And I do think that Ghee could become a #1.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think Reeves or Bennett become expendable
You need depth, especially against the Colts, and I could see all 6 being in competition all camp long. Everyone other CB probably gets cut, but we would have 6 good corners.
what if bennett can come back to life
that would sure be nice
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Assuming he makes it out of Qatar alive
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Feb 22, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
assuming he doesnt back pedal into a moving truck
when a little bunny jumps out and scares him
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
FYI here are the UFA CBs for 2010
Dunta Robinson, Houston Texans
Marlin Jackson, Indianapolis Colts
Leigh Bodden, New England Patriots
Carlos Rodgers, Washington redskins
Richard Marshall, Carolina Panthers
Ellis Hobbs, Philadelphia Eagles
Tim Jennings, Indianapolis Colts
Standford Routt, Oakland Raiders
Roderick Hood, Cleveland Browns
Ken Lucas, Seattle Seahawks
Lark Paymah, Minnesota Vikings
Nick Harper, Tennessee Titans
Walt Harris, San Francisco 49ers
Dre’ Bly San Francisco 49ers
Ralph Brown, Arizona Cardinals
Deshea Townsend, Pittsburgh Steelers
some interesting names.
bodden and rogers are intriguing….
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Ellis Hobbs and Richard Marshall are RFAs
Otherwise, I’d be for Bodden, Hobbs, and Marshall.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
i put in a couple of RFA so you wouldnt puke at the list
yes marshall and hobbs and i think thats the only two on the list that are RFA
what do you guys think well be the tender. id give up a third but not anything higher. then a big contract im sure they would want
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
I would spend a third round on Marshall
but not for Hobbs. Marshall is a good #2 for the Panthers, so I’d expect them to put a higher tag on him.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Was he basically the guy who replaced Lucas
by AllenOU on Feb 22, 2010 11:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Yes and did a great job. I doubt the Panthers break up him and Gamble.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
yeah probably not. bodden and D rob get overpaid so this might be a position in where we have to draft
and go with another position as a FA.
i think we HAVE to sign one at least borderline starter at CB, FS, DT, OR OLINE in free agency…
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Even though FA starts in 2 weeks
it still looks like it’ll be a slim pickings for those positions. Maybe teams will cut more players along the way (trying to be optimistic).
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
slim is right
DRob is near the top, according to the media, who usually shows us no love.
Mount Cody in round 1
Devin Ross. 5,11. 184. 4.43
CB from Arizona. Could be a guy to look at in the fifth or later. I just got an email with some of the kids highlights and he looks like a player. Don’t know much about him
by AllenOU on Feb 22, 2010 11:57 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Lukewarm on Price
Mayock is starting to come around on him though, so maybe he could be a decent pick. I need some more research on him.
I don’t think there’s any way the Texans pick a safety in the second. It’s either got to be an elite player or a hidden gem at that position.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
Price is projected to be an UT
I’m not sure about his strength, but I think only if he’s really strong will he be a possibility.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
We are picking 19th
I will continue to chant this until the coin is in the air. I’m on record if this happens. If we lose the toss, I’ll deny I’ve ever posted on this site.
But in the question posed here, under no circumstances to I see us taking Pierre-Paul, so its a moo point. (you know, like a cow’s opinion)
If we are able to trade back, I’d say we take Kyle Wilson. If we aren’t able to trade back, I’d say we reach for Kyle Wilson.
Duane Brown is about to be an expensive Guard. I don’t see Smithiak using a first round pick on the OL in the near future.
I hope we address the OL early, but Iupati is too big for our scheme. I really don’t see us taking him.
What sucks is the DT depth is cancelled out by the run on DTs and our best ever record.
Mount Cody in round 1
How is Brown going to be an expensive Guard?
The guy’s rookie contract was for 5 year, 9.1 million that could go as high as 11.5 million. That is cheap for a good starting Guard. If one of the top OTs like Bruce Campbell falls to the Texans, they will take him. They won’t even have to think about it. Kyle Wilson is a reach in the first round, plus with the quality corners in the second round, why reach for Wilson? If he’s there at our spot in the second round, then great, take him. If not, take another CB.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 22, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
guard price
I was making an assumption that a recent 1st round LT moving to guard would be expensive. I guess I was wrong.
If that’s the case, I’ll have to re-think my whole draft strategy. Thanks.
Mount Cody in round 1
LT's contracts are usually high
but Brown was picked at the end of the first round. It is kind of surprising how much cheaper the end of the first round players are than the beginning of the first round players. In comparison, Jake Long was the first pick of the 2008 draft and his contract was for 5 year, 57.75 mil. I guess the moral is to win a lot of games so you don’t have to pay rookies huge contracts.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 23, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Its stupid how much anyone in the top 10 gets. No rookie who has never played a down should make that much money.
www.manningface.com
Yeah, I’m not sure how the league has gone this long without a rookie salary cap.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 23, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, axe! on your round 1 thoughts...
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Regardless of Brown's price
Protecting Schaub is the #1 priority of this franchise. Lose Schaub and this team won’t win.
yup
and it doesn’t change the need, just the value of the picks.
The prevailing opinion is that Kubiak likes smaller, more athletic OL, which should be available in later rounds. That doesn’t mean he wouldn’t find the perfect guy available in round 1, just that a player of equal evaluated ability could be found in later rounds also.
Mount Cody in round 1
Bush picked Cushing
so he, paired with Smithiak (can you “pair” with a duo?) could be very good to the Texans.
I hope he nails the first round this year, and I hope their second rounder last year turns into a beast this year.
If Smithiak gives the pick to Bush, I’ll change my vote to Witherspoon. Then in the second we get Perrish Cox.
Bush getting Cox, just seems natural.
Mount Cody in round 1
that was my sig
until I changed it.
I’m gonna change it again, after the weigh in pics surfaced.
Mount Cody in round 1
Maurkice Pouncey
This is from Lance Zierlein’s blog over at Chron.com. It’s ESPN.com’s assessment of Pouncey, and Lance’s comment. Considering all the 3-4 defenses we’re going to see next year, I’m sold, even if it might be over-reaching a bit..
Here’s the link, since I don’t know how to embed-
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/
3. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
“Versatility is one of Pouncey’s strongest attributes. He played center in college but has very good size (6-4¾, 316 pounds) and the smarts to shift out to guard. His feet are always under him, and he displays impressive balance and a good power base, something he showed off in an intense showdown with Tennessee DT Dan Williams last season.”
Z-Report Says: I would say another hit for Scouts Inc. here. Interior linemen are often some of the safest, though less flashy, choices on the board. While Pouncey figures to be at the back end of the first-round selection since centers and guards rarely get taken inside the top 20, there is a chance that someone could overdraft Pouncey. And maybe “overdraft” isn’t the right word. With more and more defenses shifting to a 3-4 front, a powerful center who can move well and who can play guard if needed is something that should start to get a higher draft priority.
First I've heard of Pouncey being a 1st rounder
If we are targeting an interior lineman with our 1st pick we should really trade back to get them.
www.manningface.com
"Back end of the first round"
Heck, I heard Pouncey wasn’t gonna get picked til the mid-2nd round and he’s the best center available (Although, I’m driving the JD Walton bandwagon in round 3).
However, even if a center is taken it doesn’t mean he starts. Center is the toughest position to play on the line due to the fact that the center adjusts the blocking and makes the calls at the line. It’s very rare for a rookie to step in from day 1.
and if we have two
C-G possibilities, it gets us one step closer to upgrading the middle of our line.
Mount Cody in round 1
I hope that Dennison wasn't brought in
under the premise that he had to accept and be happy with the O-line as is. Kubiak has to give him the 1st round pick to give him a leg up. The O-line absolutely sucks at pass protection and has to be even worse in run blocking. O-line has to be the 1st round pick. It just has to be!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I might be putting myself out there but...
I really would love to sign Carlos Rogers off the FA, especially if he’s unrestricted.
Also, I would love to pick up a guy like Bowman in the second round, or maybe even a trade back and pick up in the late first. I like Warren and Graham in the second as well
by cowhandcal on Feb 23, 2010 12:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I can see Bowman in the 2nd
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Youthful exuberance, maybe?
a barfight in 2007 and smoking dope….but he has kept himself out of trouble over the last year. He has a family. I think he has changed for the best. He is a player and in the 2nd round he would not be a reach at all.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I seem to recall
a certain Mr Matt Schaub having a barfight in his past. And, which one of you in this readership has never smoked some weed…when you were 19? So, how can you disqualify this young man? He is arguably the best WLB in the draft. Do a little research on him. He is considered EXCELLENT in coverage. That is huge. Wouldn’t we like ONE of the Texans players to have that moniker? “Excellent in coverage!” I haven’t heard that about any Texan. And, last season he had 17 tackles for a loss. This guy is a monster WLB. I would love to see the Texans take him in the 2nd round. Actually, I doubt he will be there at that pick. Our loss.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I agree that LB isn't a huge need.
But our defensive scheme relies on fast linebackers who can get sideline to sideline very quickly. We have that for the most part, both Ryans and Cushing have at least moderately above average speed for their position. With Diles at WLB, which is usually the most athletic of the 3 linebackers, we probably have average or slightly below average speed at the position. Diles is also probably slightly below average in coverage for a WLB.
If we picked up Weatherspoon in the 1st, although we certainly have greater needs than WLB, it’d help improve both our run and pass defense equally. Weatherspoon is a better tackler than Diles, is quicker and faster which would allow him to string out more plays in the run game, and his cover skills would greatly improve our underneath pass defense. No more would we sometimes have to play nickle on first down if we were playing a pass happy team, weatherspoon has the ability to cover slot recievers without the team losing a LB in the proccess.
Let's just hope that he'll drop into the fourth round
Linebacker is not a big need, but maybe he’ll drop because of his character and we can grab him in the fourth or fifth.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 23, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Weatherspoon is by far the better WLB
Bowman is quick and fast, but Weatherspoon is faster. Bowman has good cover skills, but bites on fakes way too often relying on his athleticism to help him recover, in the NFL it won’t. Weatherspoon also has excellent cover skills, and isn’t killed on playaction fakes quite as much. Bowman is also about 15 pounds lighter than Weatherspoon.and while i’d be willing to overlook his few off the field offenses, Weatherspoon has none.
Realistically we probably won’t be able to get either outside of our first round pick unless we trade down into the early 2nd, then maybe we could snag Bowman if he doesn’t go in the 1st, and if you’re spending a 1st anyway you might as well pick the best available which is Weatherspoon at WLB.
I'm just sayin'...
With the Texans having their first winning season ever, look for the team to draft someone in the first few rounds that has automatic name recognition with the fans. I am not sure who exactly, but with Texans on the edge of something big finally, nothing puts an exclamation point on a draft more than a big name. All of these players look great on paper, but having to hand out biographies to fans just to get them to understand isn’t sexy.
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
Big Name = Bruce Campbell in the first round
Same name as the guy who starred in the Evil Dead movies. Yeah, I would like that pick.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 23, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
Anybody for Jared Veldheer in the 2d/3d?
Kid is HUGE, looks talented, and probably damn smart. Hillsdale is like a conservative Rice.
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