The Uncapped Season, Collective Bargaining, and You
In what I hope is more an indictment of the Arkansas public education system than the state's legal system, there's currently a local attorney running a commercial for people who have been in an auto accident with a "big rig" (his term, not mine). This would not be noteworthy at all were it not for the commercial starting with this little gem:
Weight plus speed equals force.
I was reading and just using the TV as background noise when this nugget of genius aired. I snapped to attention -- I have radar for this kind of stuff -- and rewound the DVR. I had to make sure I'd heard correctly. Once I stopped laughing, I decided I would email the offending attorney. My email read:
Subject: Physics fail
Unless the laws of physics are different in Arkansas, which would actually not surprise me, weight plus speed doesn't equal force. In fact, it doesn't equal anything other than the sum of two numbers. (Though I suppose you call this sum "weightspeed" if you really wanted to.) Force is mass times acceleration, chief. I would hope that, at the very least, the significance of multiplication versus addition in this equation would be evident.
Maybe next time, you could take three seconds and Google "formula for Force" before you go on camera. Or you could just wing it, I suppose. I look forward to hearing how the Law of Conservation of Linear Momentum means that people are sure to die if a tractor-trailer hits their automobile in a straight line.
Yours,
MDC
Shockingly, I did not receive a reply.
Anyway, I mention all of this because that attorney's failure to do some very basic research before putting himself out there as an authority on the issue reminds me to a large degree of some of the stuff I am reading about the potentially uncapped 2010 season. It's one thing to speculate about potential consequences of not having a cap. It's quite another thing, however, to make statements that are verifiably incorrect. So, after the jump, we'll tackle the erroneous statements one by one and try to sort some stuff out.
Myth #1--2010 is definitely going to be uncapped.
This is by far the most common misconception I've heard/read. While it is exceedingly likely that there won't be a cap in 2010, the two sides have until the March 5, 2010 deadline to reach a new deal. (March 5 is the beginning of the NFL's fiscal year.) What's more, when the issue of getting a new CBA done last reared its head in 2006, the two sides agreed to a 72-hour extension of the deadline, pushing the drop-dead date three days beyond the start of the new fiscal year. Point being, while I would still bet heavily on there not being a cap this season, we've got 10 days (as of this writing) plus whatever extension, if any, the sides agree to before that becomes a reality.
Myth #2--2010 is uncapped because the owners opted out and now there's no collective bargaining agreement in place.
This is one of those "kinda sorta partially true" statements that gets bent through retelling and eventually turns out false. In 2006, the players and the league agreed to extend the then-existing CBA for six years, through 2012. In 2008, pursuant to a clause in that agreement, the owners opted-out of the last two years of the CBA. This made 2010 the Final League Year. Under the CBA, the Final League Year, whether it be in 2010 or 2012, was never going to have a salary cap. This was inserted as a theoretical incentive to get the sides to negotiate earlier and thereby avoid a last-minute scramble like was seen in 2006. Obviously, this didn't work, but whatever.
Anyway, 2010 is uncapped because the owners exercised their opt-out rights. It is not uncapped because there is no CBA, but because the terms of the still-in-place CBA call for it to be uncapped. All the opt-out provision did was bump the Final League Year provisions up by 24 months.
Myth #3--Teams will have two transition tags and a franchise tag in 2010.
Full disclosure: I actually said this one a few months back because I believed what I heard from Pat Kirwan. The moral being "don't ever listen to Pat Kirwan."
Normally, teams have the option of using either a franchise tag or a transition tag. (See here for a rundown of the salary differences between the two tags.) Per the CBA, in a Final League Year, a team is allowed to use both tags. When combined with the changed requirement of six league years for a player to earn RFA status rather than four, the functional impact of the additional tag is obviously going to be an even smaller FA pool. The upside, at least for a team like Houston, is that you can tag someone and still have the ability to protect, for instance, Chester Pitts via the transition tag if you want to hedge your bets and monitor his recovery before giving him a multi-year deal.
Teams have until 4:00PM on Thursday, February 25, 2010, to designate tagged players.
Myth #4--Teams can cut players this year without paying them anything.
I haven't seen this written, but I've heard it on sports radio at least ten times. Shocking, I know. Obviously, it's false. Assuming an uncapped year, teams can, by definition, cut players without having cap implications. The teams are still on the hook for any guaranteed money. The lack of an overall team salary cap does not remove the individual player salary minimums, though those minimums rise at a slower rate in an uncapped year than they would in a capped year.
Also, as an aside, one thing that keeps getting overlooked when people talk about the lack of a cap is the corresponding lack of a salary floor. I'm going to assume that Bob McNair is far too classy to field a 53-man roster costing only the guaranteed player minimums, but I'd be pretty scared if I were a Bucs fan subject to the cheapskate whims of the Glazers.
Myth #5--There is nothing to stop Jerry Jones (or Dan Snyder, etc.) from buying whatever talent he wants.
Actually, there are a few things to stop Jerrehgeddon from descending upon the league. For one, because the Cowboys advanced to the divisional round of the playoffs this year, they are subject to the Final-Eight Rule in the CBA, which limits their ability to sign FAs. (Oh, sweet irony, how I love you. The year the Cowboys finally manage to win a playoff game, that win operates to thwart their odds of improving the following season.) Because the explanation of the Final-Eight Rule is somewhat convoluted, I'll let the NFL explain:
During the Final League Year, the eight clubs that make the Divisional Playoffs in the previous season have additional restrictions that limit their ability to sign unrestricted free agents from other clubs. In general, the four clubs participating in the championship games are limited in the number of free agents that they may sign; the limit is determined by the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs. They cannot sign any UFAs unless one of theirs is signed by another team.
For the four clubs that lost in the Divisional Playoffs, in addition to having the ability to sign free agents based on the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs, they may also sign players based on specific financial parameters. Those four only will be permitted to sign one unrestricted free agent for $5.5 million (estimated) or more in year one of the contract, plus the number of their UFAs who sign with another team. They also can sign any unrestricted free agents for less than $3.7 (estimated) million in year one of the contract with limitations on the per year increases.
In the case of all final eight teams, the first year salary of UFAs they sign to replace those lost cannot exceed the first year salary of the player lost with limitations on the per year increases
As for Snyder and other deep-pocket owners who are not affected by the Final-Eight rule? There are still limitations as to how they can structure new contracts (see the next myth), as well as the simple fact that there just aren't that many big name unrestricted free agents available this year.
Myth #6--Teams should just sign players to front-loaded deals now to take advantage of the uncapped year.
This would be a good plan if it weren't nearly impossible. Under the CBA, any salary decrease of greater than 50% from one year to the next becomes a signing bonus and is then spread out over the life of the deal. For example, if the Texans signed DeMeco Ryans to a deal with a $30M salary in 2010 and a $5M salary in 2011 (capped), that $25M difference would become a signing bonus and be prorated over the life of the deal. I suppose a team could always roll the dice and bet on that rule being abrogated in the new CBA, but I don't see it happening.
What teams COULD do, however, is use the lack of cap implications to pull trades that would otherwise be impossible.
Myth #7--The league has no real incentive, or at least far less incentive than the players, to make a deal that is less-than-favorable.
I can only explain the prevalence of this myth by assuming that most people, lawyers included, have no concept of the nonstatuory antitrust exemption under which the NFL operates or the potential consequences of letting a CBA lapse.
The class action settlement agreement in White v. National Football League addressed the application of the nonstatutory labor exemption. In the event that a majority of the players choose union representation and the NFL and the players' union execute a CBA embodying terms of the settlement agreement, the labor exemption would cover those terms. After CBA expiration, the settlement agreement prohibits asserting claims of antitrust violations until after the parties have either bargained to impasse or six months have elapsed since expiration of a CBA, whichever is later. At that time, "the Parties shall be free to make any available argument that any provision or practice authorized by this Agreement . . . is or is not then entitled to any labor exemption." (emphasis added)
This provision basically imposes general principles of contract law in an effort to settle the otherwise confusing issue of when the protections of the nonstatutory exemption cease. The labor exemption provision essentially delays -- either for six months or until the parties reach impasse -- the need to raise the issue of the exemption's proper length. During this period, presumably the parties may be able to resolve their differences on their own.
Translation: If the CBA expires and a new one is not reached within six months, if the negotiations fall apart, the league becomes theoretically vulnerable to antitrust lawsuits. There is also an issue of labor laws allowing the NFL to set new payscales, etc., on their own if they claim impasse prior to the six-month deadline, but that's a whole separate can of worms. (Tangent: American Needle could have huge implications here, and I've been wondering if the NFL's attempt to get single-entity status does not have more to do with avoiding post-CBA liability than with peddling their logoed wares however they wish.)
Myth #8--If no deal is reached and 2010 is uncapped, 2011 will be locked out.
Simply put, one has nothing to do with the other, at least not in a cause-effect sense. 2010 is uncapped because the owners opted out of the final year of the CBA. If 2011 is locked-out, it will be because a new deal has not been reached by early March 2011. Thus, it's entirely possible (and, I hope, likely) that everyone will come to their senses in time to save 2011, regardless of what happens in 2010. Additionally, as sorta mentioned above, U.S. labor law technically allows the NFL to claim impasse prior to the six-month drop-dead date, at which time the NFL could set new rules for payment, etc. That would avert a lockout and would force the players' hand possibly to the point of a strike.
Aside (and somewhat related to Myth #7, too): If there is a lockout, there will not be games with replacement players, as it would be illegal for the NFL to do so. The replacement-player games were done in reaction to a strike by the players, not following a league-imposed lockout.
Myth #9--There might not even be a rookie draft in 2011.
There will definitely be a draft. That much we know. The current CBA specifically provides for a draft following the Final League Year, though it apparently moves the draft up to February (i.e. before the CBA technically expires). What we don't know is how those players will be paid (i.e. will there be a new rookie cap in the new CBA), how a lockout could impact contract negotiations for the draftees, etc.
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via thegurglingcod.typepad.com
Sources:
http://prod.www.vikings.clubs.nfl.com/news/article-1/Basics-of-the-Uncapped-Year/bb018b51-07ee-4e05-8ec1-e98ea779be1d
http://nfllabor.com/
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/02/uncapping_some_knowledge_about.html
http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/faq.asp
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/8755/nfl-explains-final-eight-plan
http://min.scout.com/2/947299.html
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88 N.C. L. Rev. 212 (2009)
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Don't diminish the importance of weightspeed.
Hopefully our scouts will be paying close attention to it at the combine. It’s much more important than strengthhandsize and heightwonderlicscore.
by Nashmeister on Feb 23, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
I want Rivers to use weightspeed calculations
in all of his reports from Indy.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
Terrence Cody has a massive wingspan
But nobody ever talks about his weightspeed.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Feb 23, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
look who drafts according to weightspeed

Mount Cody in round 1
by texanphil on Feb 23, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Im still under the impression
that both sides will get a new deal done before the 5th. Am I the only one?
I heard that
they weren’t in serious enough talks to get it done in time. But that may be a myth.
Mount Cody in round 1
Yes and No
It would make our offseason very tricky, especially since we won’t know if we need to franchise Demeco or OD in that situation.
www.manningface.com
Myth #10
the coin toss has already happened, and we’re picking 20th.
Mount Cody in round 1
by texanphil on Feb 23, 2010 10:06 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Myth #7
Tremendous point, and one that I haven’t read anywhere else.
Awesome article, MDC.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Gracias
Re: 7 — I only knew vaguely of it because White v. NFL popped up when I was doing the American Needle post. I have to credit that Loyola L. Rev. article for explaining the timing, however.
I really should flesh out the whole idea that the NFL can avoid a lockout by claiming impasse and imposing whatever new conditions (w/in reason) that they want. I’ve been pondering that overnight and I can’t see why they wouldn’t do it, as it would force the players to strike and prevent the martydom of being locked out.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
thanks MDC
all good info.
I was curious about the front loaded deals, but I’m not sure it would be smart to do anyway. If Meco made $30M in 2010 and $5mil for the next 5 years, he would have to be heavily incentified (a word I may have made up, but have been wanting to work into a sentence for a while) or be one stellar professional, or his play may suffer.
re: #5
Snyder could buy a title bunch of over-priced free agents Yankees style in 2010, but would potentially run into problems with the next CBA cap-wise, but there’s no other problems here, right?
Mount Cody in round 1
I don't think the rules apply to Snyder.
He gives somebody a new $100 million contract every year, yet somehow he always managed to be under the cap. Awfully nice to have the commissioner afraid of your enormous wealth.
by Nashmeister on Feb 23, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Every year?
Other than Albert Haynesworth, who has a $100 million contract on that team?
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 23, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
You would think you could believe the story from NFL.com
but even Pat Kirwan can screw that up. You would think he’d check his sources…
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 23, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions
Myth #1 and timing
We have to designate our tags by Thursday, one t-tag and one f-tag, Feb 25th.
March 5 is the deadline for a new CBA and a capped season, which removes the ability to t-tag and potentially changes our strategy re:Dunta.
How do they reconcile the timing of the two deadlines and the changing ballgame? I guess I’m assuming the Final League Year wouldn’t be 2010 if a new CBA is signed in time, which, for Myth #1, this has to be the case.
Mount Cody in round 1
This got me thinking
If teams use both of their tags and a new deal is reached, does that mean they have to forfeit one of the tags?
That's a really good question.
I’m going to look into it. Just based on what I was reading on other issues, I’m guessing there’s language in the current CBA that grandfathers-in the second tag if a new deal is reached. Hmm…
Other possibility: As there is zero chance that the current deal is extended (as it was back in 2006), I wonder if that doesn’t mean that 2010 has to be the Final League Year, with any new deal starting March 2011? That would make sense, and it would probably be the cleanest/easiest way to answer a lot of those issues.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
re: Other possibility
then that turns Myth #1 into reality, right?
If the Final League Year is 2010 regardless of what happens with a new CBA, and the Final League Year is uncapped (see Myth #2), 2010 uncappedness has already been determined.
Mount Cody in round 1
Good point.
In practice, you are right. I think the reason 2010 really isn’t officially uncapped yet is the possibility, however remote, that the two sides might extend the existing deal. But I think you are right, in that those two myths are mutually exclusive.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
Do you happen to know
If the text of the CBA or a draft is online?
I usually try to avoid being a lawyer during my personal time but I’ve done some labor work and I’m curious about how, if at all, it varies the usual provisions of those sorts of agreements.
And google will set you free:
Answered my own question. Here’s the link, if anyone cares.
blogmedia.thenewstribune.com/media/CBA_Amended_2006.pdf
Interestingly, the link to the CBA on the NFLPA’s website is down. This draft is dated 12/6/06. The NFLPA link does direct you to what I think is an enlightening memo from Smith to NFL agents, or at least as enlightening as a public memo can be.
http://www.nflplayers.com/Articles/CBA%20News/DeMaurice-Smith-Memo-to-All-Agents/
He seems to indicate he thinks there’s probably going to be an uncapped year. I’d like to know more about the master decision he references too.
by JimboTexan on Feb 23, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Special Master Stephen Burbank
ruled that the NFL must still use the supplemental revenue sharing provisions of the CBA even in an uncapped year and he forced the NFL to open its books to NFLPA accountants.
After the accountants reviewed the documents, they claimed that the NFL had not properly shared revenue under the plan. A new suit was filed on or around February 16 in an attempt to force the league to pay back SRS payments owed to the low revenue teams.
I always assumed "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" would be some sort of country music diss track. Live and learn, I guess.
Special Master
Isn’t that what bfd calls Kerns these days?
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Feb 24, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
wait
a possibility of the draft in FEBRUARY
this i like
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Engineers everywhere approve of your physics e-mail
Nice write-up MDC.
BRB will now be the only location in the universe that is rumor-mongering brainstorming within the proper guidelines this offseason.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Myth #14
MDC doesn’t get excited in a room full of naked, oiled up dwarves.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Feb 23, 2010 12:01 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
How could you tell him apart from the dwarves?
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Feb 23, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
He'd be the one on his knees???
by AllenOU on Feb 23, 2010 1:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Just gonna go ahead and throw this out there
Brian westbrook > LT
by AllenOU on Feb 23, 2010 2:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Westbrook was still a somewhat valuable runner last year at least
I think he’s better than LT and certainly better than Chester Taylor.
…not that I’m advocating we sign him.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Feb 23, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
With this I agree
I think draft a rb and let these old guys go somewhere else.
Trade for AP would be nice.
by AllenOU on Feb 23, 2010 3:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree
Chester Taylor is the best of the 3.
As for Brian Westbrook, he may be getting pushed out by the league against his will. We’ll see if any team comes forward, and takes a chance on a guy with a recent run of injuries. I recognize the serious nature of head trauma, but I wonder if the NFL is knee-jerking this concussion thing. Andy Reid said today that he wished Brian well IF he chose to play again.
gonna throw this out there, also
our O-line will make all these dudes < what they could be with a better run blocking O-line
Mount Cody in round 1
Two things popped in my head when I read this
-When is MDC’s version of the self help book “How to win friends and influence people” coming out
- What happens when an immovable object is struck by Schrodinger’s cat with an infinite amount of “weightspeed”?
…the rest of the article was well done, but I immediately blocked it from my memory because thinking about any possibility of a work stoppage at any point in the future puts me in a very bad mood.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
by papabear on Feb 23, 2010 3:06 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Bad mood for me too
Let the NBA or MLB have a work stoppage
but not the NFL
that has to be sacreligious.
by AllenOU on Feb 23, 2010 3:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
….and Patrick Willis has more weightspeed than everyone else on the planet combined
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
by papabear on Feb 23, 2010 4:14 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
you can't measure his weightspeed
Because you can’t quantify infinity.
by grungedave on Feb 23, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
This is a fantastic post.
I feel the need to link it over at SB. Expect some Colts’ fans.
/ducks
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
No problem with that
And no need to duck here.
But you should fully expect to get BANNED over at SB for linking to anything written by MDC.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
BBS is too busy thinking up to ways
to slam Polian’s people skills.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is one of the most underrated shows ever.
Great post - thank you so much!
Rec’d for:
1 – coining a new physics term, “weightspeed”
2 – coining a new football term, “Jerrehgeddon”
3 – using the word “abrogated”
But seriously, this post is clear, succinct, and well-written. It needs to be promoted throughout SB Nation… and beyond!
How can you not love a team that does this?
he really should
start a blog.
I bet people would read it.
Mount Cody in round 1
by texanphil on Feb 23, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Thanks and appreciated
as a valuable service to SB Nation. I’m linking to it too. (Thanks for the idea PTB)
Keep the faith!
Excellent post
That is what the best of blogs can achieve. And what standard news sources should write. Well done, sir.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Rec'd.
The most informative piece I’ve read about the whole uncapped year/lock-out situation. Anywhere. Well done. All articles should be written with the thought in mind that people from Indiana will be reading them. Didn’t understand that whole phys ed thing at the beginning or the word “abrogate” but pretty much followed the rest of it.
by peytonsurdaddy on Feb 23, 2010 8:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh, and...
Under the CBA, any salary decrease of greater than 50% from one year to the next becomes a signing bonus and is then spread out over the life of the deal. For example, if the Texans signed DeMeco Ryans to a deal with a $30M salary in 2010 and a $5M salary in 2011 (capped), that $25M difference would become a signing bonus and be prorated over the life of the deal.
Doesn’t that meant that $20 million would be prorated over the life of the contract as the signing bonus?
First year salary being determined to be<or= to 2X’s the second year salary
X<or=2X$5,000,000
X<or=$10,000,000
Therefore, $10M can be claimed as salary for the first year and the remaining $20M would be considered bonus.
Does that sound right or should I add math to the list of things that I suck at, too?
by peytonsurdaddy on Feb 23, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
your team scores so often I figure numbers should come easily for you
The way I read it is since $30M to $5M is greater than 50% decrease, the $25M difference is considered a signing bonus. The 50% decrease is just a trigger, the difference is what is pro-rated.
This sounds like how its applied currently, and not just in the final league year. For example, if the CBA is the same after 2010 when Payton gets his salary as follows:
2011 – $170M
2012 – $70M
2013 – $70M
2014 – $70M
2015 – $70M
2011 is obviously a signing bonus, so the above quoted rule causes the difference in 2011 and 2012 pay to be prorated. This helps a team not get into cap trouble when there is a cap, and simultaneously prevents gaming the system when there is an uncapped year. I don’t think Paytun will have a problem with these numbers.
Mount Cody in round 1
Thanks, I was unsure...
Because of the way it was worded.
by peytonsurdaddy on Feb 24, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
Myth #4
for reallz?! If people actually going around thinking this they need to give their head a shake. The world would likely come to an end if myth #4 was possible
In Canada our balls are bigger
by canadian texan on Feb 23, 2010 11:48 PM CST reply actions
I've heard a lot of fans from just about every team making that mistake
I’m sure they mean that they can cut them without having to hurt the cap since there is no cap. But yeah, that is not how they are wording it. I think we are already seeing this with cuts like Westbrook and LT. Though I cannot see this affecting many Texan players. The only one that it might happen to is Reeves since he’s our most expensive CB (if Dunta does not re-sign).
by theaxeeffect4311 on Feb 24, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Also
I’m adding weightspeed to the glossary when I get home tonight.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Feb 24, 2010 4:29 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Yes.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Feb 24, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for this great explanation...
I still don’t fully understand #7, but this clears up a lot of stuff!
Bob Sanders is starting to make me rethink my SBNation ID!
by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Feb 24, 2010 10:31 AM CST reply actions
i am from arkansas
born and rasied
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
Pretty Sure
That makes you the best thing to ever come out of Arkansas, J-Man.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
lol
thanks tim well where i live we are very colse to the missouri tennesse border and littie rock in gerenal gives the wholie state a bad name with its hign crime bad roads and just the city of littie rock is weak
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
I don't remember the last time I have laughed this hard reading something
excellent article! Well Done and Rec’d!
LOL – weightspeed!!! =)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 25, 2010 9:54 PM CST reply actions
MDC - i posted this on the Phinsider
just wanted to give credit where it’s due. =)
http://www.thephinsider.com/2010/2/25/1327210/this-is-friggin-funny
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 26, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
wow
that is some epic physics fail. Not only because of the addition rather than the multiplication, but because its not weight (its mass) and its not speed (its either velocity if the guy meant momentum rather than force, and if not, its acceleration). So almost literally none of those terms were correct.
For a more serious question: what does it take for bargaining to be “at an impasse”? Does that mean both sides agree it is? That one side (the NFL) unilaterally declares it is? That they bring in an arbiter who says so? Or something else?
Great article.
Didn’t understand all of 2007 because of the legalese, but great work.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is one of the most underrated shows ever.
hahahahahahahahaha
I had to stop reading when you criticized a guy for using the wrong equation for force when in reality he was more correct than u. Force = mass X velocity…not mass X acceleration. Next time you are going to slam somebody make sure you are correct first…just a thought.
So am I your man, Mr. Dumbass?
The name, is Dumas.
Force is the differential change of momentum with respect to time.
When mass is held as a constant (and the more “normal” definition), Force is equal to mass * acceleration.
It is momentum that is equal to mass * velocity (with a constant mass).
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Feb 28, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec´d.
For reminding me of that amazing commercial.

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