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2009 Shadow Draft: One Year Later

Waaaay back in the infancy of me actually writing about the Texans instead of just watching them, I had some inspiration from one of John Sickels' pet projects: his shadow draft.  Every year, he drafts along with the Minnesota Twins pick-for-pick in the MLB Draft.  Seeing as how the NFL draft is both shorter and easier to scout, this seemed like a no-brainer idea for me.  So I did one.  And here we are a year later, with you indulging me by reviewing it and pretending I am not an idiot.  Good times?  Good times.  

The rules:

1) No trading down.  If I was running the draft board, the Texans would trade down a LOT.  But considering the amount of hypotheticals you create by opening the door to fake trades, there is just way too much guesswork involved.  If the Texans do happen to pull off a trade, I have to adjust my board to that.  

2) I can't assume anyone we've picked will last to our next pick.  It's just common sense.

3) On the other hand, I will assume that we've gathered enough draft intelligence to know who will be coming off the board by the time our next pick happens.  This is so I don't get stuck with overdrafts of guys that I like that came off the board later than I would have expected.

Enough rules, times for the actual analysis

Star-divide

Round 1, PIck 15

Texans selected: Brian Cushing, LB, USC

Shadow draft selected: Michael Oher, T, Ole Miss

I think it might be piling on at this point to say that we collectively underestimated Brian Cushing, who was a big score for Smithiak (and Bush if you give him that credit).  However, considering how weak the offensive line has been, how poorly Duane Brown continues to be in pass protection, and Cushing's lengthy injury history, this is a closer debate then you might think going forward.  Oher did struggle some as a left tackle, but I can't just discount all his pass blocking stats (+4.5 at PFF) because he didn't do as well as a LT.  At worst, he would've been a massive improvement on Brown.  For now though, the Texans found the defensive rookie of the year and one of the best linebackers in the league at the 15th overall pick.  I'd say that's a good value.

Other picks that enjoyed some instant success between 1 and 2: Alex Mack, Clay Matthews, Jr. (do you want the tackler or the pass rusher?), Jairus Byrd, Hakeem Nicks, and Vontae Davis.

EDGE: Texans.

Round 2, Pick 46

Texans selected: Connor Barwin, DE/LB, Cincinnati

Shadow draft selected: Connor Barwin, DE/LB, Cincinnati

From my DL in review post:

Barwin's progression was pretty much what you'd expect for someone who'd played just one year of defensive end in college: downright ugly in the first couple of games, but he was a solid contributor from then on, albeit one who made some mental mistakes.  I don't think he's average against the run yet, but he's already the second best pass rusher of this lot.  Like most of the Texans rookies, expect Barwin to benefit from a full year of OTAs and training camp.

 

The long-term future is somewhat more up in the air.  I'm not sure the coaches will let him overtake Smith, and I'm also not sure he'll be able to stick at linebacker for more than a few gimmick sets.  He looked lost the few times I saw him have to play coverage.  I'm hoping he gets more snaps this year, but there isn't a clear answer to where they come as long as Smith is on the team.  Perhaps to run with my Okoye idea, the Texans can run some more sets with Smith kicked inside and Barwin at his end spot.

So, was he the best pick here?  For the future, the answer very well may be yes, considering the impact pass rushers have on the game today.  For last year, there are a handful of picks that were probably better.  MDC mancrush Sean Smith did some great things in Miami, Sebastian Vollmer blossomed in New England, the Jaguars found a powerful nose in Terrance Knighton, and 2 stellar RB's left the board in Shonn Greene and LeSean McCoy.  Of those picks, I think Vollmer and Smith probably were the best ones, in that order.  Barwin was always going to be a long-term project, so I'm not willing to concede anything about this pick yet, but Smith sure would look nice right now given the cornerback bind we find ourselves in.

EDGE: Same pick.

Round 3, Pick 77

Texans selected: Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama

Shadow draft selected: Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama

Impossible to really compare these two in present value because Johnson didn't play much at all last season, although with Antrel Rolle leaving for New York, that could change this coming season.  Perhaps it also says something that the Cardinals were willing to let him walk.  Caldwell was probably the best interior offensive lineman the Texans had all year, which is damning with faint praise, but things probably would've looked even worse if he had washed out completely.

As far as best players to come off the board between this and the first fourth round pick, Jerraud Powers had a nice rookie season for the Colts, and Mike Wallace dodged many 60 Minutes jokes to become a solid third receiver for the Steelers much earlier than expected..  The best selection out of all of them was probably Baltimore's LaDarius Webb, who was a stud in limited time.  

EDGE: Texans.

Round 4, Pick 112

Texans selected: Glover Quin, CB, New Mexico

Shadow draft selected: Chip Vaughn, S, Wake Forest

Not that I had much choice here, with only 10 picks between this one and the next pick, but this turned out comically bad.  Quin was one of the steals of the draft, and showed exactly how good the Texans scouting department is by becoming a solid starting corner right off the bat.  Chip Vaughn went straight to IR in spring and never emerged.  DJ Moore, another popular draftnik sleeper, didn't play a down of football for the Bears.  Probably the best non-Quin pick in the 10 was Denver safety David Bruton, who barely played but looked like he belonged when he did.

EDGE: Texans.

Round 4, Pick 122

Texans selected: Anthony Hill, TE, North Carolina State

Shadow draft selected: Andre Brown, RB, North Carolna State

Anthony Hill showed flashes in training camp and briefly in games, but ultimately was a spectator for the majority of the season.  Andre Brown immediately blew out his knee after getting drafted.  Right now, I think I'd take Brown going forward, especially considering the Texans need for a RB and their relative depth at tight end.  For the moment, however, they added about the same amount of nothing to their respective teams last year.

Better picks would've included: the wide receiver trio of Austin Collie (I guess, if you think he isn't a system guy), Johnny Knox, and Louis Murphy.  Nobody else really stands out between here and the fifth round, although Jasper Brinkley held up pretty well for someone who was tossed into the fire.  

EDGE: Push

Round 5, Pick 152

Texans selected: James Casey, TE, Rice

Shadow draft selected: James Casey, TE, Rice

Double dipping again:

Casey fits the Owen Daniels mold, although he's a bit more versatile.  He's much better catching balls than he is blocking; in fact, I'm a bit puzzled as to why exactly he had such a rough time getting on the field in passing downs after Daniels went down.  Casey's season in a microcosm came in a Week 15 play against the Rams.  The Texans ran a play-action pass, Schaub came out on the bootleg, Andre Johnson was double or triple covered deep, Vonta Leach was one-on-one in the flat, and Casey was wide open about 10 yards downfield.  Schaub throws to Leach, who catches it and goes nowhere, and Casey looks around after the play trying to figure out who was covering him, only to find no one near him.  

You have to think Casey's role will grow next season, right?  But I really can't see it happening.  It's not that he's not talented, but he doesn't bring anything to the field right now that the Texans don't already have.  If he's going to be split off the line, the Texans have better receivers and he's not as good as Daniels.  If he's going to be on the line, he can't block, and Daniels is again better.  If I were him, I'd spend the whole summer learning to block and show I can do that better than anyone else on the team during training camp, because right now, that is his ticket onto the field.  Well, that or Daniels holding out or getting hurt again. 

Were there better picks?  Macho Harris would look nice in retrospect, given the Texans' newfound CB hole.  Jamon Meredith played well in limited action for the Bills.  The Jacksonville Zach Miller also played a credible tight end, and was much more involved than Casey was over the course of the season.  Thomas Morstead provided the Saints with reliable punting.  I'd say there were a few better players out there, but again, not many.

EDGE: Same pick.

Round 6, Pick 188

Texans selected: Brice McCain, CB, Utah

Shadow draft selected: AQ Shipley, C, Penn State

McCain was a fairly okay dime back for most of the season after turning heads in training camp, another great find by Smithiak in the sixth round.  AQ Shipley hit the Steelers practice squad, was waived, and then was signed up by the Eagles practice squad.  I still have a good feeling about him, but it sure didn't happen this year.

The Texans might have been better off selecting Devin McCourty's brother, Jason, who slipped into enemy hands and plays in Tennessee.  Myron Pryor didn't look overmatched in his small sample sizes as a Patriots defensive tackle.  Bernard Scott and James Davis were a pair of solid committee RBs while healthy.  

EDGE: Texans

Round 7, Pick 223

Texans selected: Troy Nolan, S, Arizona State

Shadow draft selected: Chris Baker, DT, Hampton

Finally I can claim semi-victory!  Chris Baker went undrafted but spent almost all year on the Denver active roster.  Nolan got hurt in training camp and spent the year on IR.

Julian Edelman would've been a better pick than either of them, as would LaRod Stevens-Howling and Rashad Jennings, who I only passed up on because I'd already picked a RB.  

EDGE: Push

Welp, the Texans have cleaned my clock after year one.  I guess that's the difference between being a professional organization that has tons of tape and a college student who mainly gets draft information on the internet.  It'll be interesting to see how these guys continue to develop going forward, and who else emerges from the late round shuffle with a little time to grow.  Anyone I missed?  Thoughts?  Regrets going forward with Barwin over Smith, MDC?

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I think it’d be fun to do one of these this year. Hilarity is guaranteed to ensue.

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by bigfatdrunk on Mar 11, 2010 8:21 AM CST reply actions  

There will be one.

At this point I am just hoping to keep it in the same ballpark.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Mar 11, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember reading this back in your site.

Im expecting another one next year after the season is over!

by Jordann on Mar 11, 2010 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

Re: Barwin over Smith

Eh…maybe. (How’s THAT for taking a stand?)

My problem with Barwin is that I don’t think you spend a second-round pick on a situational/limited-role player, especially when there are guys available who fill far more pressing needs. We’d signed Antonio Smith, we’d just drafted Brian Cushing…getting a guy who wasn’t quite solid enough to supplant either of them still seems odd. That said, if he becomes a Dumervil type of third-down monster, it’d be hard to argue that he was a “bad” pick. At the same time, being a pedestrian third-down rusher and having a part-time role in that bizarre 3-3 nickel package ran from time to time isn’t what I want from a R2 pick.

On the flip side, and in the spirit of intellectual honesty, I do admit that my love for Sean Smith (which I still have, Sean…call me) was as a safety. Even I didn’t think he’d be the CB that he is. Though, jeez, can you imagine having that kind of coverage ability with your free safety? For those who didn’t really see Smith much last year, it was because teams just stopped throwing his way whenever possible. The guy is giant for a CB, too, so his lockdown ability is amplified by the fact that he’s as big as the WR you are throwing to generally. Still, I’d like to think that, even if we’d taken Smith as a safety, the powers-that-be would have seen his coverage ability and moved him to CB. /lying to self

So…yeah. I’ll stick with “maybe.” In 2009, I would have rather had Smith. In 2010, maybe Barwin’s physical tools make that decision a little tougher.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 11, 2010 10:05 AM CST reply actions  

Have you seen our pash rush

Cause we don’t have one. We need another pass rusher still…

by AllenOU on Mar 11, 2010 10:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

This is true

but it’s not really germane to the comment.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 11, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

your right

i just like to point that out as if yall allready dont know.

you could say, hey, look at the hot piece of ass walking down the street… and ill say, but yeah, have you seen her pash rush.

its like the word fuck. interchangeable in all facets of life!

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

This makes more sense than it probably should.

Fuck.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 11, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

hahahaha!!

is this a good fuck, or a fuck fuck??

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point

But I think in the end Barwin’s porn stache gives him the edge.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 11, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, true.

I just have no faith generally in this regime to be creative in the least.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 11, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

What a coincidence. I woke up this morning thinking two things 1) I have to pee 2) The NFL network could create a show soley based on past draft/player analysis and showing what scouts/pundits thought of the kids coming out of school and conversely how they actually ended up in the NFL and why. Great post

by knfc on Mar 11, 2010 10:52 AM CST reply actions  

The closes I've seen

Is ESPN and SI usually do a redraft at the end of the year of the first round.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 11, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

The biggest takeaway from this article for me

Is that the Texans have pretty good scouts.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 11, 2010 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

Sure seems like it.

I’d love to see one of them go MoveTheSticks on us.

At this rate, none of them should be fired though.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Mar 11, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

On Brian Cushing

I now everyone was and probably still is, afraid of his being prone to injuries, but from his rookie season, I think unless he breaks something below the waist or tears something, the kid will be on the field playing his heart out. This season alone he was playing with messed up ribs, broken finger and who knows what else. I could even see him with a cast on his arm breaking necks and cashing checks as my friend says all the time. The last time I had a hard on for a LB was my boy Dat Nguyen who finally left the cowgirls to coach at TAMU. Gig ’EM!!!! Maybe TAMU will get back to that scary D they had when Dat played there…. one can only dream!


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 11, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

77-0

that is all

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't give a shit about either team...

but I will ALWAYS rec a solid “scoreboard” argument.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 11, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Not when it's about ou

Never.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Mar 11, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

oh and 65-10 this year

means the ags probably win the game next year

college station is the #1 college football venue in the BIG 12….. and it isnt even close.

love that place, its like a fucking church of football

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

TGC I am too dark to join the Klan...

I tried they said that i walked the walk and talked the talk but my skin kept me from gettin in!!!!

like the rhyme?


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 11, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Even v. aTm?

Actually…I suppose that would be like you rec’ing a comment about Ohio State beating someone, huh? My bad.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 11, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

ohio state never beats anyone though

except themselves……BURN

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

If forced to choose

atm > ou

chugging bleach > atm > ou

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http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Mar 11, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

If you were forced to choose...

Spend a day with BIGBADBRAD or Choose OU?

by TexansDC on Mar 11, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Spend a day is too much

15 minutes with Brad or backing OU?

by TexansDC on Mar 11, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

hey at least OU puts some quality offensive player in the NFL

roy williams…..come on..

KY….. come one

benson is the exception after this year.

NAME ONE WR out of texas that hasnt been a complete bust.

they do put quality TEs in the nfl though

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Earl Campbell

thinks that Adrian Peterson is a pussy

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Mar 11, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

And he's right.

I love my uncle Earl.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 11, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's keep it in the last 10 years

Earl was great. But he is like 50

and that’s all you got

AP need to cure his fumbleitis i agree

Marc Clayton thinks Roy Williams is a bitch. And he is

by AllenOU on Mar 11, 2010 2:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Right...typical land thief

I understand now. You are changing the boundaries of the discussion as follows:

- Only discuss WRs, since that is the position that OU has put out a lot more NFL talent than Texas. And make sure we disregard other positions, especially OL, DL, LB, DB since Texas as put out some serious motherfuggin talent at those positions.

- Only discuss the last 10 years, because we wouldn’t want guys like Earl in the conversation as a trump card.

Thank you for the clarification surrounding this discussion. I have noted it, and chosen to ignore it. Please expect a visit from Casey Hampton, Derrick Johnson, and Brian Orakpo soon.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Mar 11, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I rec'd this because:

1. You didn’t take my comment like Bryan would have

2. Jamaal Charles is from the town where I was born, and brought me great joy when I watched him rush for nearly 300 yards against Nebraska

3. Fuck Troy Aikman

4. Fuck Barry Switzer

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Mar 11, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

For the Bryan reference.

And the “Fuck Troy Aikman” part.

by Jordann on Mar 11, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate Joe Buck

eom

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 11, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't believe no one else has rec'd this.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 12, 2010 8:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with all you said

But even though Switzer is a bitch, anyone that gives his players automatic guns is cool in my book!!!

And I don’t take comments hard. It’s all In good fun.

All I can say is it is a shame Jamarcus Russell didn’t to UT. That would have been sweeeet!

by AllenOU on Mar 11, 2010 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly.
It’s all In good fun.

People need to remember this more often.

by Jordann on Mar 11, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Except on game day

In good fun goes out the window when the two big 12 powerhouses meet on the field.

And no ATM isn’t one of them

by AllenOU on Mar 11, 2010 5:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

By the way

I was at that neb game with my GF at the time who cried!!!

I didn’t know who to root for, so I just cheered when anyone did anything good

by AllenOU on Mar 11, 2010 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I miss RC Slocum

not just because his last name is what i used to tell girls I would do :o


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 11, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

How many pros has EITHER school had in Falconry?

Well, then… shut the fuck up!

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Mar 12, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

This^

Brian bosworth???

by AllenOU on Mar 12, 2010 4:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

GAWD

Allen you are killing me smalls…..
I am talking about the Future not the past… lol..

Plus you must admit the Aggie D of the mid to late 90’s was scary….


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 11, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

oh hell yeah

and i root for the ags actaully…. but the 77-0 game i was in the student section, and we threw a rope over the top of the stadium, had pledges tie a 30 pack of keystone to it, and hauled it up into the student section. IT WAS THE BEST FOOTBALL GAME IVE BEEN TO, quickly followed by a 2 hour stint in the back of a norman police squad car.

seriously true story

i also met the love of my life for the next three years at the game so it has sentimental value…

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like the time I almost got arrested at the Katy HS, Mayde Creek Game

We snuck liquor and mixed it with concession stand soda’s then sold for profit.


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 11, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

This is fucking priceless

Even better in high school. Everyone did this shit in college.

We even made sportscenter that week!!!

by AllenOU on Mar 11, 2010 6:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

HAHA

We had a “bar” operating during lunch in the cafeteria, 2 L sprite and Coke Bottles helped disguise the liquors.. the only reason we got shut down was because someone was stupid and took the jack and coke into class and left the cap off… I never got caught but a lot of others went down for it.


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 11, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Hu Dat?

Lol, that is the guy that has family members own a local restaurant in Corpus Christi called Hu dat…..hahaha

Schlauton

by Schlauton on Mar 12, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

"i also met the love of my life for the next three years"

You’re only going to be around for three years (or less)?

Seize the day, man!

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 11, 2010 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

she was a cheerleader and i got caught in the abyss

im making up for it in my late 20’s thats for sure!!

and i was there for 4 years……and another year…..oh and one more…….so 6 lol!

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't that standard for you state school guys?

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 12, 2010 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I read it

but I couldn’t see any TEs on there… so I’m not sure what you mean.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Would anyone be interested

if I made this available for everyone to do?

I can put up a page with available players, and I could record everyone’s picks so we could see who beats Smithiak this time next year.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 3:15 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Would be awesome

I can’t wait to see what MDC’s sig will be next year.

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by bigfatdrunk on Mar 11, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

we could make it like a fantasy game

I collect $100 from you now, and then this time next year I’ll grade everyone’s picks and tell you who wins. Sounds fair, right?

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, seems fair

In a Nigerian 419 scam sort of way.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Mar 11, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

rule #3

if I’m gonna do this, I need to know some ground rules, and rule #3 is confusing to me. I’m not that bright.

On the other hand, I will assume that we’ve gathered enough draft intelligence to know who will be coming off the board by the time our next pick happens. This is so I don’t get stuck with overdrafts of guys that I like that came off the board later than I would have expected.

Can someone explain that to me?

And is there a list anywhere of all of the eligible players available to draft, or is it every human being who has been out of high school for 3 years and not currently under an NFL contract?

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I found the list

here

And I think we should draft Derek Guggenberger - OLB Butler. I want to see that name on a Texans jersey.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Guggenheim would be better

but I do have to rec you for the most funny name this draft year.


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 11, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll try

Basically Rule 3 is there so that you can pick anyone who went between this pick and the next pick. If you were forced to draft under the gun like the Texans were, you could select someone who goes a round (or rounds) later in the draft, because as fans we aren’t as well-informed about what other teams draft boards will look like.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Mar 11, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

so this wasn't done real time?

I figured you made the pick at the time they made it. You just made the picks sometime after the draft only being allowed to select players taken between our picks?

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

so

It could be done after the draft, under these rules, right?

I was thinking real time, then there would be no reason for rule #3. Is there something I’m missing?

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 4:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think so

If you do it in real time you might overdraft someone by a few rounds. It’s a failsafe I put in to keep myself from looking too stupid.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Mar 11, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

No

I’d hate you for stealing my UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE POST IDEA that I blatantly ripped off from someone else.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Mar 11, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

you could just record your picks here also

and then be the only one to write eloquently it, while taking subtle jabs at the Frank Bush era.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

If they're subtle

I’m not trying hard enough :(

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Mar 11, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

ahem
write eloquently it,

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 11, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

it would be ironic

If I was claiming I right elloquently

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 11, 2010 4:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

im in

can i make an early choice for chris brown as our #1 pick. he has a bad ass name, is from OU, AND can actually thrown a TD pass to his own guy.

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 11, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

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