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Texans Down 'N Dirty: Thomas Jones?

Paul Kuharsky thinks the Texans should look into the idea of bringing in Thomas Jones.. Jones' past two years in the league have been pretty awesome. In 2008 he rushed for 1,312 yards at a 4.5 YPC clip, with 13 TDs. This past season Jones managed 1,402 rushing yards and 14 TDs. Looks like an easy decision, right?

Problem is, Jones is going to be 32 in August. How he's managed to hold up these past two seasons at the time most running backs empirically fall off is a testament to his work effort, but how long can he keep this up? We need not go into the statistics of how many 30+ year old running backs have failed once they hit that age. Been there done that. Kuharsky, however, does bring out an interesting statistic.

In 148 NFL games over 10 years, he’s averaged 17.4 touches on offense.

It's still a decent number of touches, but not nearly the same amount that the heavy workload backs get. Still, since 2005, Jones has gotten less than 295 carries just once (2008). It may seem redundant to keep bringing up the age, but 32 is a scary number to have attributed to a starting back, not to mention he'd be coming from a pretty solid run-blocking line with the Jets to a unit that performed very inconsistently here in Houston. Also, Jones would be a stop-gap solution at best and it might be better to develop the young guys now rather than later. I'd look elsewhere unless his price tag drops an incredible amount.

More good guy stuff. Love Amobi Okoye, love the group of guys we have on our team right now.

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How would you feel about Thomas Jones joining the Texans?
Ahman Green - 'Nuff said
75 votes
At a reasonable price range - of course
368 votes
Would rather take my chances with younger players
146 votes

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If it was for one year...

and the Texans had no other options, and room on their payroll, I might make an exception to the “over 30 RB rule” for Thomas Jones. Someone will probably offer him at least a two year contract and for more moolah than Rick Smith and the Texans want to spend, which may eliminate him from coming to Houston. I think he would be an asset to the team, though. But, he is 32, and he’s a RB who has a lot of mileage over the last few years. The math just doesn’t add up to him coming here.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Mar 2, 2010 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

I also would make an exception for Jones

I think no matter what, we’re drafting a RB. If they want to add a proven RB, Jones makes sense. It’s not like Jones would be starting or take a ton of carries. However, I agree that we may not be in the running for Jones because I’m not sure how he values himself or how long of a contract he’s looking for.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He's looking for as much as he can get, no doubt

What do you think that is? Certainly he wants more than any rookie contract. This will likely be his last contract. What is he looking for mostly? Money or a Super Bowl. There are no guarantees for a Super Bowl. Just ask Brett Favre. So, money it is. He is looking for that last big payday. I am repeating myself, but yes, not the Texans.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Mar 2, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't

We just have this discussion? Except we used the words “LaDainian Tomlinson” instead of Thomas Jones?

I’d rather we just draft an RB in round 3. It worked with Slaton until he got hurt, don’t see why it can’t work again. We’ll probably blow that pick on another Tight End though. God knows we need more of those.

As always there’s the caveat “Hey, if he wants to play for the minimum, why not?” But why the hell would he want to do that? I don’t think he’s thar hard up. And neither are we.

by JimboTexan on Mar 2, 2010 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

Because it isn't a fair comparison

Realistically try to compare Thomas Jones numbers the last 2 years to Tomlinson with a strait face. You can’t.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

My face is straight

He has better numbers sure, he’s been hurt less also, but he’s also older and will be replaced by Shonn Greene….who the Jets took in the 3rd round. In addition to that, I’d argue he was never the back LT was in the first place. His numbers may be better, but in my mind the most important one- (32 on opening day)- is still off. It’s worth noting that Ahman Green was also coming off a 1k yard season when we signed him.

Now that’s just my opinion. If we bring him in and he excels next year, I’ll be happy to say I’m wrong, especially if we win some more games because of it. I felt the same way last year about Brian Cushing, and I was demonstrably wrong about that. He could be the exception to the rule. I just don’t think he is.

by JimboTexan on Mar 2, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

So you didn’t actually bother to compare their numbers from the last two years. That obviously made it a lot easier for you to keep a straight face.

The comparisons with Ahman Green aren’t one hundred percent valid. Green was a season removed from an injury that caused him to miss 11 games, and but up about 400 yards less then Jones did. We also wouldn’t be putting all of our RB hopes on Jones shoulders, we would be asking him to carry part of the load.

You really going to try to diss Shonn Green? Maybe you should go back and watch him play. In fact the whole reason they are cutting Jones is BECUASE Green is a 3rd rounder. Its about the money.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually

I did. i apologize that I didn’t write them out. I certainly wasn’t trying to hide the ball. Thomas Jones has about 1000 extra yards over the last two years. He’s also about a yard a carry ahead of LT. He’s still a year older. In fact, last year was a career best for TJ running behind one of the best lines in the league. Indeed, his numbers improve dramatically when he goes to the Jets. I think he was a great signing for them- and would have been for us a few years back. I certainly would have preferred him over, say, Chris Brown or Ahman Green.

Now as to Shonne, I am suggesting tht our resources would be better spent on such a back in the draft than in signing TJ coming off a career high and aging to a contract. As we have demonstrated in the past, such a back could be valuable in our system. Frankly, I fully expect him to decline from his career high numbers without the Jets line and with his age catching up with him. His ceiling is limited.

I apologize if you’ve seen this or something similar before, I thought I replied earlier today but i guess not.

by JimboTexan on Mar 2, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I am suggesting tht our resources would be better spent on such a back in the draft

I don’t necessarilly think bringing in another back is priority number one. I would argue it is at best number 3 and arguably even lower. I would be happy if we drafted no running backs and instead got two O lineman.

Again, Jones doesn’t have to carry the ball 300 times for us, we need another back to split time with Slaton and Foster, and for a year, maybe two, TJ could very well be that guy.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 3, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

For quoting the typo, pretty funny and it makes me look retarded all at once. It could be worse; my other weakness is “andt he”. I don’t think it’s our top priority either, like you I suspect, I think that our top priorities are defensive. That said, it seems clear we need another RB at some point. If we pick a back in rounds one or two, I will be pissed off about it because I don’t think it’s the best use of our resources.

I’d rather we pick up another mid-round back to be that guy than TJ, who I think to play that role for us would cost more than he’s worth. In my opinion, his numbers are an aberration and he’s past his prime. A mid-round back will probably have more potential and certainly more upside. If he comes in and plays well, then great, I was wrong, not the first time.

I think we may have to agree to disagree on this one.

by JimboTexan on Mar 3, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

sorry didn’t even pick up the typo. My problem is for us to get a back who we can count on to make an impact, we can’t wait much later then the 4th, and personally I want us to draft O-line, Dline and CB and then with our 4th pick another safety.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 3, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget we need a center too.

If we want to grab a center like JD Walton, we’ll probably have to use our 3rd or 4th round pick on him.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 3, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Centers

Aren’t on the O-line?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 3, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

you said, “personally I want us to draft O-line, Dline and CB and then with our 4th pick another safety.” Since we have to fix at least two spots on the O-line, I was merely suggesting that safety should wait until after that.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 3, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

If we're taking a FS in round 4 or 5

to groom…I’m hoping it’s Rolle or Utah FS Robert Johnson.

by TexansDC on Mar 3, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Not

If they’re named Chris Myers.

by JimboTexan on Mar 3, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw that

the Florida Center can play all three positions on the OL.

If we can trade back, he’s my #1. If not, he’s in the running, but I reserve the right to see who’s still on the board at 20.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 3, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, its not my money

and 2010 is uncapped, so I don’t care what he costs in 2010. For everyone who misunderstands this, I’ll put it another way. If the acquisition of Jones does not in any way hinder the acquisition of any other FA pickup, or the signing of DeMeco and Pollard, or the ability to sign all of our draft picks, then, under those circumstances, I don’t care what he costs.

If the contract was good for one year, and similar to Ahman Green’s modified contract in the second year where he only gets paid when he’s capable of contributing, I could handle that.

We have more than one hole, and if this frees up a draft pick for a stud OL, I’m all for it.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

get him AND draft a full-load all-purpose back as though we didn't

take 5 into camp, cut the least promising (chances are that a back cut from Texans will be available all season if we need him)
Reasonable contract anticipating a deteriation of performance with age…and sign him up.

by Smittybaby on Mar 2, 2010 9:26 AM CST reply actions  

agree with taking him and one in the draft

but if one of those 5 you’re taking is Chris Brown, I have to disagree on principle.

If he has a chance of making the squad, I’m in for a long summer.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we should

Draft Chris Brown, RB, OU. Chris Browns come and go. But the fail endures forever.

by JimboTexan on Mar 2, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I AGREE WITH THIS ONE!!!!

really though, chris brown from OU isnt what our team needs. if he is undrafted though might be worth bringing in

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Mar 2, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Thomas Jones is coming off a big year...

I think, at the right price, it would be a good move to bring him in.

As for Amobi, can’t help but love that. Let’s add Myron Rolle to the team.

by TexansDC on Mar 2, 2010 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

Werd

Then we would have to setup a quantum mechanics R&D Lab in order to keep Okoye, Rolle, & Okam from getting bored between practices.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Mar 2, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Thomas Jones is coming off a big year

And therefore won’t be available for anything approaching the right price.

I vote no.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 2, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Also

Okoye is the man.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 2, 2010 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

There's no denying that he's a good back.

But after realizing that he’s coming off a big year, I don’t think he’ll settle for the right price.

by Jordann on Mar 2, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Here's my thought

Claim Antrelle Rolle off waivers to take care of the FS, Take HB Ryan Matthews in the 1st round since he won’t make it past San Diego at 28th, & grab Terence Cody in the 2nd.

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Mar 2, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Umm, dont want to sound mean

But that is a terrible plan. Rolle is two years younger than Wilson and is pretty much the same player. Sure, he may not be as injury prone, but he’s going to get overpaid by one of the safey needy teams. As far as Matthews, there is no point to take a RB in the first round when the life of a RB is short and high in injuries. If the RB is an exceptional RB like AP, then I would understand. If Dennison can run a ZBS as effective as he did in Denver, then we will be able to put any back on the field and be effective. But Matthews is nothing exceptional to me. And I’m hazy on this part, but didn’t he struggle with fumbles in college? And I doubt we can get Cody in the second round with all the 3-4 teams ahead of us looking for a NT. Not to mention I think Cody would be too big for a 4-3.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 11:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Where is this lala land you live?

Terrence Cody is not falling to us in the 2nd.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we could trade Owen Daniels for the Redskins 2nd round pick

If by some way we pull that off, we could take Myron Rolle with our 2nd round pick if he falls to us & hope Cody falls to that Redskins 2nd round pick

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Mar 2, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Either way, Jones is not our solution at RB

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Mar 2, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

He doesn’t have to be, he just has to be a piece of the puzzle. Slaton as long as he is past his fumbling issues is at worst a good 3rd down back, and Foster and Jones very easily could handle the rest of the running for a year or two if we can shore up our line.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather take my chances with LeGarrett Blount over Jones

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Mar 2, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

shrug I would love to have more picks to spend elsewhere if we can get them.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Draft pick or Money

that’s really what this boils down to. Do you know how high Blount is going now? I can’t remember but I remember thinking that it was above the fifth round and so I would pass on that guy. I agree that we should draft a RB (I’m hoping lower in the draft), but bringing Jones in is not going to hurt.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

How about?

Chester Taylor would be a better fit!

by brandon l on Mar 2, 2010 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

You would rather have a 3rd down back(which we have in slaton)

Then a guy who is more an every down type?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't talk to Chester Taylor's

campaign manager like that!

He’s only doing his job man.

by Jordann on Mar 2, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

fair enough

I mean I don’t hate Taylor, but we have Slaton, rendering Chester fairly redundant.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

But Chester Taylor

is like a change of pace back than can shred defenses with his speed!

What’s that? Steve Slaton is the same way? Oh.

And Chester Taylor can come out of the backfield and catch the ball fairly well!

Did you say something? Steve Slaton can do that too? Oh. So signing Chester Taylor would be a redundant thing to do. My bad.

by Jordann on Mar 2, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

We could just pick up nobody at RB

Maybe we could just wait & see if Jeremiah Johnson can pan out at HB. I’d much rather go with Slaton, Foster, & Johnson than waste the money on Jones.

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Mar 2, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

i hate to sound too critical

but counting on Jeremiah Johnson, Foster & Slaton after last year is like me counting on a magical unicorn to slide down a rainbow carrying a message from my boss to take the rest of the week off at double pay.

by Smittybaby on Mar 2, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Neil Patrick Harris

agrees with you

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Mar 2, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

considering what Super Mario will do to said unicorn, its not looking like good odds.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Mar 2, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Even if we get Jones Johnson isn’t completely out of the picture, but he won’t be ready for game one, at least not in the coaches eyes.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

to be fair

we do get into a lot of 3rd downs

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

so Slaton and Taylor could split 3rd down duties?

Brilliant!

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

For a 2 year deal

Or a 3 year deal where we could cut him after 2 without much consequence I would be good with it. I would rather draft more O-lineman, D lineman, or CBs then draft RBs anyways.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

this

get the skillz in FA and draft the future (and hopefully present) studs on our OL and build a long-term solution.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Been milling on this...

Hypothetical, useless FA/Draft scenario.

We sign Thomas and work him with Slaton and Foster.

In the first round we pick up Maurkice Pouncey, who, allegedly, is the best C in the draft. Then we can bench ragdoll.

Second round we get Myron Rolle (I hope). If he’s gone, we pick up a CB.

Third and on, I dunno

by HoustonTransplant on Mar 2, 2010 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK FS IS A BIGGER NEED THEN CB

/kills myself

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

Wilson hasn’t played a complete season since 2005. So when he goes down, it’s a glaring hole. Can’t have someone out there dropping back to Corpus and draw the line in the sand there. I wouldn’t get heartburn if they went FS first then a CB later.

by HoustonTransplant on Mar 2, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Do we have enough money

to sign Bodden, Sharper, and DeMeco?

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't think Bodden was possible

just seems smart for him to stay with the Patriots and for the Patriots to re-sign him because they don’t have much depth behind him.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

No salary cap

and Bob McNair has more money than God.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 2, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

True.

But if the question is merely “can we afford it,” the answer is always going to be yes.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 3, 2010 5:17 AM CST up reply actions  

no cap this year

but I don’t want to hurt us in 2011 and beyond, cap wise, even if McNair opens up the checkbook.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

My theory

is that any deals that don’t violate things like the 50% rule, etc., will have to be grandfathered in to a new CBA. You can’t very well have a new deal that voids a significant number of contracts or the players aren’t going to go along with it.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 3, 2010 5:18 AM CST up reply actions  

You should've waited for me.

Synchronized suicide would’ve been more awesome.

Eugene Wilson might be old but he can still fill that void. And if he does go down, Barber wasn’t so bad as his back up.

by Jordann on Mar 2, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem I have with this

is how many more years do we say this?

One of these seasons we’re gonna have to invest either a high draft choice or some FA money in a FS.

If he gets injured early, I think 2010 will be a repeat of 2009 in the FS department. Which was terrible when Wilson wasn’t out there.

I think something needs to happen this offseason to shore up the FS position. Yes, its probably down to 3 or 4 on the needs, but its not solidified, imo.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

So why can it not wait until next off-season?

Really, that is all I’m looking at. Fix the O-line and CB this off-season, then next season fix FS. Plus, who knows, maybe Quin moves to FS. I think it makes a lot of sense. However, Quin moving to FS only makes CB an even bigger concern.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

2nd round Rookie – Reeves – McCain – Bennett/Molden

I’d be okay with that. If Quin’s at the FS and Pollard’s at the SS.

Yes, 2nd round rookie cause that puts Weatherspoon or Williams as the round 1 pick.

by TexansDC on Mar 2, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Im hearing a lot of talk about Weatherspoon here

and i’ve been reading up on him quite a lot lately.

But I still don’t think we should draft an LB in the first round.

Any chance he’ll fall to us in the second?

by Jordann on Mar 2, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

If we wanted an OLB it’d have to be Weatherspoon in round 1 or Washington in round 2.

There’s no way a team like the Colts would pass on Weatherspoon. That would probably be his worst case scenario.

The way I see it: Williams would be the 1st choice, but if he were gone then it’s too early for a CB and then it came down to BAP and at that point Weatherspoon or a OT/OG would be there for discussion.

Cushing – Ryans – Weatherspoon would be devastating and something that I couldn’t be disappointed with.

by TexansDC on Mar 2, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Cushing-Ryan-Weatherspoon

That’s almost as good as Cushing-Ryan-Derrick Johnson

/drools on keyboard

by Jordann on Mar 2, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha

Weatherspoon would be better than Derrick Johnson. Weatherspoon at least brings some intensity whereas Johnson disappears in games.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

The Broncos

disagree with your assessment.

texanphil is smart and I’m a retard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Mar 3, 2010 5:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying that he is not good

but if you want a consistent LB, better look somewhere else.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 3, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Diles is consistent

Consistently meh.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 3, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Throw in Pollard playing up near the line

(whistles) Good luck to any team on getting past that.

by TexansDC on Mar 2, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I would rather go OT in the first round

But yes, second round for CB. And JD Walton in third or fourth (wherever he’s slated to go)

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Two more years.

And Wilson’s contract expires. As much as I want us to draft/pick up a top flight safety, I honestly think the texans are going to wait out on that. Or they might not even do that.

Barber is coming along nicely and they’re hoping that he’ll take Wilson’s place in two years.
Then they’ll draft another late round safety to groom as the future starter.

I honestly think that safety isn’t our top priority in the draft. If we go NT, OG, CB, RB in the first four rounds; i’ll be happy eventhough we’ll waste another late round draft pick on a safety that doesn’t pan out.

Oh, and don’t forget about Brice McCain and Glover Quin. It’ll be really interesting how they perform this coming season. If McCain steps up and learns the CB position, I expect us to move GQ to safety which will solve our problem.

by Jordann on Mar 2, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with this

depending on free agency, getting an OL, CB, RB in the first 3 rounds makes sense. Also dont forget Troy Nolan should be back in camp this year for another shot at FS.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Mar 3, 2010 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I actually

really liked Nolan (from his college days). I’m hoping he can come in and contribute this year.

Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".

by Bobobigbro on Mar 3, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Rolle ran a 4.69

I think he’ll be there in the second, but I’m not sure he’d be a good pick.

Tim Tebow is only .1 slower, and he can heal.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Tebow's 40 would have been faster

But he was running on water.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 2, 2010 11:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We could get Pouncey in round 2 (or better yet, JD Walton in round 3)

Rolle? Well, he’s probably a 3-5h rounder

And CB >FS

by TexansDC on Mar 2, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

agree

this could work out well for us.

1-DT, 2-CB, 3-OC, 4-FS, 5-ILB, 6-OG

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

How about for FA,

If the cardinal’s can’t resign Antrel Rolle, what are the bRb opinions on picking him up for FS/PR?

Thomas Jones: I think if we can get him cheap, take him, if not let him go… I still have faith in Stevey Wonder, and Foster producing for our team.

as for Okoye, I am hoping that the kid, shows some testicular fortitude and busts some heads this coming season, I have liked him since before he got drafted, and I think his time to shine is this year!


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 2, 2010 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

If the cardinal’s can’t resign Antrel Rolle, what are the bRb opinions on picking him up for FS/PR?

Seems he is a bit overrated and will cost too much.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 2, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot to add that Rolle is pretty much a younger Eugene Wilson (only 2 years younger). Why spend money on a player that you already have?

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 2, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

just throwing it at there.

I figured he would cost too much for ability. I just wanted a reason to poke fun at the red bird fans i am surrounded by


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Mar 2, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I said somewhere else that Rolle and Wilson are very similar. The big difference is that Rolle doesnt get hurt. I dont think getting him is a big need, but I wouldnt exactly be upset if they did.

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by DaGoaT on Mar 3, 2010 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be upset either

I just think the kind of money he’s going to want would be put to better use for other positions.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 3, 2010 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

NO.

he runs between the tackles. our two guards and especially center are mediocre and would produce very little holes. he would be like slaton last year every time we ran it down the middle, running into a dog pile.

Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young

by Rockets 4 Life on Mar 2, 2010 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

If we upgrade the center position

this year then I think we have upgraded the entire line by like Willis to the 10th power. Although I do agree more changes should come to the line I think even just adding a much better center improves the line greatly and will allow us to run better with just that one change. Change the center and we would get great use out of Jones and the rest of our current backs.

Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".

by Bobobigbro on Mar 3, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Thomas Jones would suck as a Texan, I have come to conclude

Simple reason why….compare the Jets’ O-line to the Texans’ O-line.

I rest my case.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Mar 2, 2010 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, one other thing

He’s too old.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Mar 2, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Age doesn't matter in his case

He does keep his body in great shape. He’s not broken down.

I’d rather sign him and use another pick on…other areas of need! Like the lines! or the defensive backs! or maybe stealing that wonderous Freddie Barnes in round 5.

by TexansDC on Mar 2, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

very true.

the guys body is severely jacked. they even did an ESPN segment on him last year or the year before that on how he is so strong and how he works out a ton. he still has it, but our o line sucks ass. ’nuff said.

Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young

by Rockets 4 Life on Mar 2, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

thats true for all RBs we'd pick up

and even the ones we have.

Jones may or may not help us, but this guy doesn’t cost us a draft pick, which we could use to upgrade said offensive line.

Dunta's weightspeed was too low

by texanphil on Mar 2, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS

Jeez people come on. One less pick on RB is one more pick to spend on the O line, hopefully fixing the aforementioned reason why Jones couldn’t be successful.

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by nolander on Mar 3, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I’d be very happy with Slaton/Foster/Johnson/Veteran….we don’t need someone in the draft because no one in the draft is any better than anything we have on the roster. A brand new RB is not going to fix the running game when our interior offensive line gets pushed around.

by TexansDC on Mar 3, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's not forget

that Arian Foster was an undrafted FA. If we can grab a veteran RB to possibly not have to draft RB high, then I would go for that. Maybe we can find another Foster. LIke nolander mentions, we need to fix the O-line.

Also, Mike Bell got the lowest tender (ability to match pay, but no draft compensation) from the Saints. I think he is a possibility since he played under Dennison’s system and a pretty good power runner for the Saints. He’ll be 27 years old at the start of next season so this could be someone all those who don’t want a 30+ year old RB should hope for.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 3, 2010 1:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Considering the Saints are paying Reggie Bush 10 million I can’t imagine it would be that hard to lure away Bell.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Mar 3, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Still kind of surprised they did not cut Bush.

I understand that he can sometimes be a mismatch on the defense, but what is going to happen when they try to re-sign Pierre Thomas? I don’t know if Thomas will be happy to be the starter and not be paid as much as the third down back.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

So long as we sign one...

and quiet all this draft a running back in round 1 or 2 talk.

Bell, Foster, Slaton….Johnson…..happy day.

by TexansDC on Mar 3, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young

by Rockets 4 Life on Mar 2, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we need at least one starting-caliber FA pickup, and maybe two, to put us in a good position going into the draft. Whether this is a RB or FS or whatever, at this point, probably doesn’t matter as much. But if we think we are going to fill all the holes we have in this draft/UDFA, we’re deluding ourselves. Thomas Jones would instantly upgrade us at RB, and probably take that out as a position of need. But if we don’t sign him because we pick up one of the FS’s or CBs or whatever, thats fine too.

by killtacular on Mar 2, 2010 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

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