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The 5 & 5 - 2010 Draft Prospects

Last time I did this kind of article, I looked at the 5 players who provided the best value and the 5 who stole Bob McNair's money. This time, I intend to look at the 5 players who should be on the Texans (and BRBs) draft board and the 5 names that shouldn't be uttered in Houston but are being mocked to Houston.

Since we're beating it to death, there will be no mention of any legitimate first round pick. We all also know that I would love to see Montario Hardesty in deep steel blue so he won't appear here. All information comes from watching YouTube clips (or real college games), watching/reading interviews, and reading as many scouting reports as possible. Now check it out below the jump.

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Bottom 5 - Avoid them, Rick

5. Any QB, WR, DE

I won't get specific here, but there are mocks out there where the Texans taking one of these positions in the first half of the draft. Honestly, unless it's the sixth and seventh round then Rick's got more pressing holes to fill. At QB the Texans have a top-ten starter, a back-up they like, and a third guy they signed. The top four WRs go Andre, KW, Jacoby, and DA, and no rookie can really crack that list. Houston also has two high-salary DEs and a project guy. There's just not a lot roster space or playing time for any of these guys. I know Rick knows that, but this is just to any mocker in general. Pass on the stacked positions when you can find guys who can contribute at need positions in rounds one through five.

4. Toby Gerhart, Stanford, RB

Of course, he's that bigger back that people like to give the Texans, but here's the thing. Houston lost by one-yard last season. Who is to say that the Texans see that situation occur again (and again and again)? Don't judge 2010 off of 2009. It's a new season. No one's roster is the same, players have different years, games have different outcomes. Smithiak needs to focus on improving the overall roster rather than plugging a high pick at a short-yardage specialist. Gerhart's short-yardage running is great, but the Texans needed that in 2009. Toby ran a surprising 4.5 40, but watching him leads me to believe that he doesn't work in Houston's zone-blocking scheme. He really can't change direction or make a quick cut, he runs upright, and really doesn't seem to have any upside (I think this is as good as he gets). Think about Chris Brown, how easy is it for people to tackle him around the legs because he runs upright. I think Gerhart's going to have the same problem. NFL pros are more disciplined than Pac-10 defenses. Is Gerhart an impressive athlete? Yes. However, is he worth the third-round draft pick? No. Just say no, Houston.

3. Arthur Jones, Syracuse, DT

Once upon a time, Arthur Jones was a All-Big East first-teamer. He wreaked havoc in the backfield and had 30.5 combined TFL in his sophomore and junior seasons. However, he had knee surgery after injuring his knee in late-2009 (where he had a low 6.5 TFL in 9 games). Knee surgery is one thing, but a big 300+ pounder with a bad knee? Well, that could really slow him down. He hasn't played on it since. Call me cautious, but Arthur's not worth the fourth round grade he carries when there are questions about his legs.

2. Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech, RB

A lot of places have Dwyer going in round one or round two to the Houston Texans. He honestly carries a round two grade, but he should be avoided. I'll repeat the mantra: Don't judge 2010 on 2009. Dwyer, while a bigger back, is often said to look overweight, and his conditioning may be a concern. He's got no real speed (4.59 40 yard dash) and is strictly short-yardage guy - is that worth a second round pick? Are we so talented that we can burn high-round picks on specialists? Oh, and he has to learn how to work a pro style system since GT ran a gimmicky triple option.

1. Patrick Robinson, Florida State, CB

This is another guy I've seen frequently mocked to the Texans - in the second or third round. Rick should back away from this one. Sure, Robinson has good size (5'11', 190 pounds), looks very natural in his footwork and has a good skill set. Here's what's wrong: Rumors that he didn't play hard during his senior year to avoid injury and get his NFL payday, he doesn't like to get hit or deliver hits, and he is inconsistent and doesn't always play up to his physical gifts. That just doesn't sound like a Houston Texan. That sounds like a guy BRB rips. In fact, the inconsistent coverage and poor run support sound similar to Antonio Cromartie.

Top 5 - Draftees that should be on the radar

5. Linval Joseph, East Carolina, DT

I know a lot of us would like a defensive tackle. The names tossed around are Cam Thomas or Dan Williams, but what if the Texans don't get one of those guys? Is there another name? Based on how the boards go, Linval Joseph could be ours in round three or four. Joseph is physically imposing at 6'4'' and 328 pounds. Is he a tub of lard? Well, he ran a 5.09 40 and benched 39 reps of 225 pounds at the combine. That's kind of freakish (I know bfd just took note). Perhaps he could be the large space-eater that many of us dream of.

4. Dennis Landolt, Penn State, OT

The 6'4'', 310 pound lineman has been among the best of Penn State's line for the past three seasons. He was an AP All-America third-teamer (All-Big Ten first team), often described as athletic (a zone-blocking scheme plus), plays RT, and is projected as a sixth or seventh rounder. From what I can tell, Landolt has played briefly at LT. I know the question that arises: "If he's so good, TDC, then why is he projected so late?" Well, the best answer I can provide is this: He plays RT which is less valuable than a LT, and he is a great fit for a zone-blocking team but maybe not for a traditional scheme. The Texans run a ZBS, and Landolt could be a very good sleeper pick in the ending rounds especially for a team that could really improve OL depth.

3. Jeff Byers, USC, C

Byers comes from USC. If Pete Carroll is implementing a zone-blocking scheme in Seattle and Charles Brown is oft-described as the #1 ZBS OT then you know that Byers should get a look from those who use a ZBS. Byers plays center and was an AP All-America Third Teamer. We all know we could use someone at center in case the coaches actually watch Chris Myers play. Byers had an impressive week at the Senior Bowl and could be a shrewd pick in round five or six.

2. Mike Johnson, Alabama, OG

6'6'' and 312 pounds is how imposing guard Mike Johnson stands. What kind of honors does he carry? Well, he was part of a line for the Heisman Trophy winning RB, a national champion, and an AP First-team All-American. That's nearly perfect. Mike's been described by numerous sites as the #1 guard for zone-blocking teams because he moves very well. There's a lot of footage of Big Mike moving great in Alabama's screens and running game. He's also more than big enough to hold his own in the passing game. Johnson carries a fourth to fifth round grade and could be a big help to the interior offensive line while also allowing Smith to start at center and Caldwell to be at RG.

1. Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt, CB/FS

BFD definitely scooped me on Lewis, but no worries. We'll just grow the mancrush on Myron. Rarely do we see good players coming from Vandy, but Myron Lewis is definitely a sleeper as a fifth round prospect. In 2010, he was a second-team All-SEC CB with four interceptions and eight passes defensed, but I think he would be great at FS for the Texans. Why not at CB? Well, I think his speed (4.45 40) and size (6'2'', 205 pounds) work better to make him a fantastic FS prospect. Not only that, but he's also able to do more than just cover. In 2009, he had 76 tackles, five sacks, five interceptions, and six passes defensed. In the cover-2 shell, it's important to have a well-rounded playmaker at FS. Eventually, Eugene Wilson will go down, and I'd be happy with Lewis waiting in the wings. It's important for the Texans to get some talent into a secondary that has to deal with Peighton Fivehead.

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Arthur Jones

I am not a draft guru by any means and so this question is not argumentative, but what makes Arthur Jones such a terrible pick in round 4? I understand knee problems can be a huge concern and should knock anybody out of the top three rounds, but the fourth seems like an okay place to take a gamble on a guy who, barring injury, has the potential to be dominant.

Unless there are better guys who we could draft at that spot.

by cubic on Mar 21, 2010 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I think that's what decided it for me...

in the 4th round you can get a guy like Linval Joseph, Mike Johnson, and even a Myron Lewis.

Watching Jones, he’s an explosive guy, but if you’re asking me bet on his knee being good again or one of those other guys then I’m going with the other guys. Now if he’s there in round 5 or 6 then I’d want to see him drafted. I’m just cautious on the knee, but then again I’m not getting medical reports. That’s why he’s at the bottom of the list because it’s a risky pick.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Linval Joseph

He did good at the Combine, putting up some good numbers for a guy his size. My question is what did he do in college? Does his numbers from the Combine reflect what his college game showed or is he a workout warrior?

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 22, 2010 4:42 AM CDT reply actions  

yep

My virtual ears popped up. Anybody know about him in college?

Seems to be some chatter he’s a 3-4 DE more than a true NT.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Mar 22, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some college stuff

Last season: 60 tackles, 13 TFL, 5+ stops in games, 14 QB hurries, 3 sacks.
Career (3 seasons/41 games): 143 tackles, 29.5 TFLs, 6.5 sacks. Two-time All-Conference USA performer.

Former Florida weightlifting champion.

He needs to work on his hand-use and how to use leverage as he seemed to rely on athleticism to make plays. Of course, if he didn’t have anything to work on then he’d be up with Suh and McCoy.

He could be a 3-4 DE, but in the 4-3 he’s definitely a space eater at 6’4’’, 328.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

He sounds like an interesting prospect.

I wouldn’t mind taking him late and having him as a project player.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Mar 22, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Okam hates this idea, and is already planning his revenge....

But unfortunately for us, his revenge will not include becoming a real NFL NT.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Mar 22, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's too small plan for Frank Okam...

he’ll work his way up the Texan front office chain of command and eventually Casserly us.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

unless NFL NT stands for

Notoriously Fat Latin-Nacho Taster…

by Albiceleste on Mar 22, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where do I place an order for said nachos?

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http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Mar 22, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think youre a little to hard on Robinson. I personally wouldnt be that disappointed if we picked him, and I would be darn right happy if we got him in the 3rd round.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Mar 22, 2010 8:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I probably was a little hard

but reading everything, it was hard not to think of Antonio Cromartie (not the 9 kids part), but just the physically gifted but inconsistent on field and horrible in run support.

If we wanted Antonio Cromartie then we should’ve traded for him, but we’ve spent a good amount of time ripping on him and calling him overrated.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

we wouldnt be ripping him so hard if we could get him at what a 3rd round pick costs in salary.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Mar 22, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The good thing about cornerbacks

- They should all play better than Dunta
- They will all make less than that $9.957 million salary.

I’m already welcoming the new CB already.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Another great 5, TDC

I have to start paying more attention to these guys. Good research in finding these guys and bringing their names to us!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Mar 22, 2010 1:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If I had bfd at freak

then I had you at 3 offensive linemen.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA!

The freak thing has to be a h/t to MDC, though. He’s the one that convinced me freak = good.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Mar 22, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You took care of me

You had three on the “radar”

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Mar 23, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amen to that, TDC!

That’s what I was saying to all the people worried about letting the fuck leave.
You nailed it, good sir, and I rec you.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Mar 24, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just wondering

why you think Gerhart wouldn’t be a good ZBS fit? A fair bit of coverage I’ve read suggests the opposite: that he more or less fits the profile of a one-cut-and-go type of back? I didn’t really watch any Stanford games (just the ridiculous highlight reels) so is that simply wrong?

Also, even if next season is different from last, and spending a 3rd on a specialist may be questionable, wouldn’t you still say RB is a need? And Gerhart needn’t be a specialist who only comes in on short-yardage runs, right?

by killtacular on Mar 22, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s a mixed bag on scouting reviews of him. There are some who love him as a 2nd rounder and some who think he’s a 4th rounder (maybe). Watching tape, I don’t think he makes a quick cut all the time. He really feels like a north-south runner who needs to stay in the tackles. There are times where he does make a good cut, but its inconsistent.

The fascination a lot of people have with Gerhart (my big problem with him) is how often he runs over players. Watching tape it comes from a lot of guys arm-tackling up-high. A lot of those guys won’t be playing in the NFL. Yes, there are bad tacklers, but even bad DBs know how to dive at legs and hold on for help. Gerhart runs tall, similar to Chris Brown, and that opens himself up for injuries and leaves his legs as easy prey for disciplined tacklers. I don’t think he’ll be anywhere near as effective as he was at Stanford without some major changes to his game.

Comparing that to a Montario Hardesty is where you see the difference. Hardesty keeps his pads down and runs low. A low-center of gravity helps him keep his balance, change direction, and makes it a bit more difficult to tackle him. Hardesty didn’t have the great college career, but he translates as a better pro.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't steer clear of QB, WR, and DE in the late rounds necessarily.

Outside of maybe the first two rounds (and even just the first last year, since they took a project player in the 2nd), you’re not exactly trying to find immediate starters. If they find a 4th-round WR that they like, by all means take him. Wouldn’t it have been nice to have had a decent RB waiting in the wings when DD went down?

After rounds one and two, BPA, I say.

by Nashmeister on Mar 22, 2010 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with what you're saying...

But in the first half of the draft, the FO should look for players to fill in those holes (CB, DT, RB, FS, OG/C) before adding in some other depth. Speaking solely for me, we could probably find 3 with the 1st 3 picks.

I was more addressing mocks that I’ve seen having us take a QB in round 3 or a WR in round 2 or DE in round 1. Those are just wasted picks, IMO.

by TexansDC on Mar 22, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Earl Mitchell

Anyone know this guy? He’s a Houston native and i just saw this highligt tape of him against USC.. looks disruptive!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FgzV4MRXcU

i’d say take big EARL in the 6th round!

Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!

by zala on Mar 28, 2010 7:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Impressed

Some of those tackles were down field, so makes you think why they got there, but also shows how speedy he actually is. That one run play where he smashes him into the ground is sweet too.

I would try to go with him too.

Schlauton

by Schlauton on Mar 30, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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