Free Agent Rumor Mongering Thread for 3/5
by bigfatdrunk on Mar 5, 2010 7:47 AM CST
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Of course, the Texans' big news is that we re-signed Matt Turk. YES!
Use this thread to list out rumors on FA signings as things really heated up last night. Quick recap on player and rumored destinations*:
* All rumors via Rotoworld and Twitter
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I'd love Pitts back
and with an honest to God LT and Center on either side of him. Not for the money that others will be willing to pony up. I confess to having no idea about Bodden, I watched nary a Patriots game last year. 5 interceptions last year, although 3 were against Dirty Sanchez. Obviously better than 0, Mr. Robinson.
That would be a nice surprise indeed.
I’ve never thought Pitts to be quite as good as the contract he was going to get before that injury… But I’d sure feel a whole hell of a lot better about our team if Brisiel and Studdard weren’t our starting OGs.
If they come out of free agency with DeMeco, Pollard, Pitts, and Bodden, I’d say it’s playoff time, baby.
Dang, someone got in before me....
I, for one, will be surprised if the Texans make a big splash in free agency. My feeling is, they are at the point where they are gaining momentum, getting some quality players, and their top concern should be re-signing their own free agent players and continuing to try to build their team through the draft. Last year, I think the biggest high-profile free agent was DE Antonio Smith and that was a good solid FA pick-up. Smith did not fail, he filled a void…and he helped the run defense improve. He was not supposed to be a pass-rushing specialist. I think the Texans are hoping that Barwin becomes THAT guy this season. Me too.
In conclusion, I don’t think there is a player in free agency that fits into the Texans system and fits the pocketbook at the same time, who will be a huge impact player. They may pick up a lesser impact player to fill a void…one who fits the budget. That is all.
The rest of the off-season team building will likely be through the draft, of which I have high hopes about. I honestly think that the Texans can/will find players that will fill needs in the 1st 4 rounds. The draft is fairly deep in the need-areas of the Texans.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Mar 5, 2010 8:15 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I don't disagree with this at all
Which is to say, I agree. (insert MDC’s future comment about Z & Mr. Moose)
/inside joke for those of us w/ pre-schoolers
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dt
Maake Kemoeatu and Jamal Williams were both released , would ether of these two be worth a look by the texans
SD is going to re-sign Jamal
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No, thank you
Boldin is going to cost a ton.
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It's always about the money.
I would throw him the money that he deserves. But that’s only after Meco, Pollard and or maybe OD is resigned.
Not saying I'm down with paying Boldin a wad of cash
but if he were to sign, I’d rescind the tender for OD and let him walk
I would too.
The only thing we would lose if we let OD is his offensive production. We all know that Boldin is more than capable of putting up good numbers.
Yes, there would have to be give and take
Take Boldin, give up something else. Possibly OD, if the Texans think that what they have is sufficient although, aren’t we all thinking that Casey may be the only healthy TE going into next season? What to do?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Surely you jest
Clearly we’re drafting more. If you don’t draft 2 TEs a year, something is wrong with your organization.
you forgot to mention that we need to draft two TEs
Back to back to back.
by typhoon.infamous on Mar 5, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I heard the Bears
might be letting Greg Olsen go. Dressen, Olsen and Thor sound like a good combo of TE to me.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
Thanks for throwing it out there....
I would be all over that. I keep hearing people say, no you have to throw a ton of money at him – well that’s the deal. You go after a good player and it’s going to cost you. Don’t be scared to spend money on good players. Yes, build with the draft but supplement were you can with FA and if you have a chance at a tough player and great receiver like Boldin I think you do it. Can you imagine: WR1 Andre Johnson, WR2 Anquan Boldin, WR3 Jacoby Jones (exciting and scary at the same time), and WR4 Anderson. I would be willing to pay for that if I was Uncle Bob. Pay Meco and Pollard and see what you can get for OD.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
what!?
The question is at what time and for what.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I think, if I heard Schefter right,
that it was near the trading deadline in 2009. I don’t know for what, but if Smith turned it down and knew he wasn’t coming back….
Doubtful (not knowing about coming back)
At that point, who knew that Dunta would morph into such a little bitch? We had not yet experienced the training camp & pre-season holdout, much less the new Nike contract.
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Got it
So that was when Frenchy was hurt, and we weren’t absolutely sure how Quin & McCain would pan out??
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You do have a point. With how bad our defense was to start the year, and with Mccain and Quinn being rookies, I can’t blame Rick for not giving up Dunta. Hindsight is twenty twenty people.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Two opinions about this...
1. I think it shows some loyalty on the part of Smith. The mere fact Dunta was out there for almost every snap told me that they still believed something was there.
2. Smith screwed up, in retrospect. Of course, it could’ve been a swap of problem children. Before I get too all judgmental, I’d like to know what the trade was.
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problem I have with this report is it would have come out A LONG time ago if it had some truth.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
agree
and it was probably no more than:
Falcons: “Is Dunta available?”
Smith: “Maybe.”
Falcons: “We’ll let you know. kthxbye!”
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We'll probably never know what it was...
beyond Schefter saying that the Falcons have been interested in Robinson for a while
You pay a dude that much...
He BETTER see every snap available. I think this was McNair’s call.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Pitts
I get the feeling teams want him as a “veteran presence”
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
NEW OG?
Apparently, the Texans aren’t just pursuing Chester Pitts…I just read on another team’s site that the Texans are supposedly chasing OG Stephen Neal…….
A tiny bit of info on Stephen Neal
He’s the #2 OG on ProFootballFocus. He’s 33 and coming off a very good year for the Pats.
I still want Pitts. Hell I would take both of them and have Caldwell play C. Then we might not even need to draft O-line early in the draft, relying on Pitts and Briesel, and try to snag someone later.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Pitts and Neal
Solve a lot of offensive line woes. Ragdoll still there, but I would be a lot happier with Pitts and/or Neal.
You are only as strong as your weakest link...
Think about who that is and then repeat. Must get rid of Ragdoll.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
If there's only 1 weak link...
either Caldwell can outplay him or we can spend a draft pick there….but the fewer links between now and April is what the key is.
I don't wish that on any team...
except for the Titans. They deserve one another.
Confucius says "man who stands on toilet, high on pot".
by Bobobigbro on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Carr to the Colts
as Peightuan’s heir-apparent
/karmic victory
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by Shake on Mar 5, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fixed
as Peightuan’s heir hair-apparent
/karmic victory
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by bigfatdrunk on Mar 5, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
And he closed the strike command
Yay…the intertubes continue to work…..for now
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Peightuan
Has to be the best alternate spelling of fivehead’s name. Evar.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Mar 6, 2010 2:23 AM CST up reply actions
What about Seyton?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Mar 6, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Colts came to terms with Brackett
5 year 33 mil.
When are we locking up Meco?
by HoustonTransplant on Mar 5, 2010 12:39 PM CST reply actions
After seeing KVB's deal...
The Antonio Smith deal looks even better to me now. $10 mil this year? What did he do to deserve that?
Wear red contact lenses.
It’s actually a mind control trick.
Obviously he wore them when the Lions visited his house.
Most of the contracts are front loaded because of the lockout.
Chester Taylor is getting most of his money in the first 2 years, Peppers is getting most of his in the first 3, and KVBs is also mostly in the first 2 years.
Its not that he deserves that much up front, its because thats what players are demanding this offseason.
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Good news everyone!
Well no not really, but it looks like Dunta’s greed has not yet been satiated. Talks are on hold with the Falcons. I can’t imagine why, if the leaked terms are anywhere near acccurate, that Dunta isn’t running to sign the papers.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
What does Shannahan see in Grossman?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/redskins-interested-in-rex-grossman/
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Rexy played one hell of a single pre season game
and Kyle watched him all season, maybe he thinks that they can train him to make better decisions, and god knows he has a hell of an arm. And compaired to the other crap they have at qb in washington it is a great idea.
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on Mar 5, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
And the ladies of Washington thought the politicians were bad
Wait til they get a glimpse of the Sex Cannon.
by TexansDC on Mar 5, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Steamin' Willie Beaman approves
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
An opportunity to make his starting QB's
Look better.
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I wonder who's crazier right now
the Cards & Niners going after Mittens or the Skins going after the Sex Cannon?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Mar 6, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
and that's not even
rumor mongering!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
From Schefter
Filed to ESPN: Chester Taylor reaches agreement with Bears on a four-year, $12.5 million deal that includes $7 million gtd in year one.
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They have no picks in the first two rounds
So that gives them cash to spend, and a need to spend it.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Indeed, Because...
You know Super Mario’s agent is watching the Peppers negotiations verrrrrrry closely.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Mar 5, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Mario's been great..
but he hasn’t put up Peppers-type production (yet). PLUS, Peppers is getting a deal in an uncapped year.
What exactly are you basing that on?
http://www.nfl.com/players/mariowilliams/careerstats?id=WIL431243
http://www.nfl.com/players/juliuspeppers/careerstats?id=PEP422041
OK so Peppers had one more sack then Williams over their first 4 years. Williams also doesn’t have any picks.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
(yet) first 4 year
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on Mar 5, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
I said yet...
Mario is 4 years behind. If Mario goes cold or has a terrible Dunta-like injury (knock on wood) then that would affect those numbers.
Well
You probably should have worded that differently then. He doesn’t have the career numbers yet, but I think he could easily snag as good a deal as peppers is going to get, if not just because he is younger right now.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
You're also forgetting capped versus uncapped.
If Peppers deal is what it was….$40 million guaranteed(?)….I can’t see that happening in a capped year.
Yay
Now if only the other geezers could also kindly clear their stuff off the wall I can look forward to an offseason of “the Texans needed a veteran RB” whining while the young backs prove everyone wrong.
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We're in the running for Bodden
with Seattle, Pittsburgh, and New England.
We’re attached to Pitts and OG Stephen Neal.
The gates of heaven will open...
if we get Neal, Pitts and Bodden. Neal and Pitts would secure our interior line for a couple of years.
Bodden and Neal or Pitts would make me plenty happy. If we get all 3, I wouldn’t even mind drafting a safety in the first two rounds.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
That depends...
the draft could be Weatherspoon/Cam Thomas or Williams/Daryl Washington.
Don’t admit to a safety yet!
I didn’t say it would be my first choice, but I wouldn’t rage about it :-p. I just don’t htink Washington will fall to us in the 2nd either. Weatherspoon Thomas seems more realistic.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Name a team that has had the chance to have 3 studs at LB?
Plus, it’s not like Cushing or Meco took up a lot of cap room last season.
Cushing only took up a little over $1 million on the cap. Who knows how Ryans deal will be structured….
Weatherspoon would be similar to Cushing’s salary….Washington in round 2 would be a lot less….
How about any team with 3 first round picks over a span of 7 yrs?
Demeco is gonna cost us, and Rick should be happy to pay it. Cush is too, but those contracts are prolly back-loaded. It’s just too much money to throw at one position group that’s not DB, DE, or OT.
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First pick of
The second. He’s worth the money.
I missed the part where I said he was.
You said “3 studs at LB” and I’m pretty sure you can get that by drafting LBs in the first round. I was basically stating that your point was silly, and you come back with this??
Thanks for playing.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
If we were to grab Williams/Washington
Safety becomes a non-issue…we could put Wheelie Stevens back there.
I'd rather put bfd back there over Stevens...
but our defense would be pretty young, talented, and around for quite a while. /drools
by TexansDC on Mar 5, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
From Schefter
The Chicago whopper: Julius Peppers’ contract in Chicago is expected to pay him roughly $40 million in the deal’s first three years.
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Bears are spending money like drunken sailors
And I don’t know how much better they’ll be for the effort.
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They'll probably be better anyway
Just based on regression to the mean.
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Look, I love Chester Pitts, how could anyone here not?
But lets not throw around terms like “securing the offensive line” on someone who is coming off microfracture surgery.
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Irrelevant
A stacked pile of DVD’s would be better than Studdard. That doesn’t mean I want it signed to a 3 year deal.
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by riversmccown on Mar 5, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I find it plenty relevant
Right now, Studdard’s starting at guard.
Pitts > Microfractue Pitts > DVDs > Studdard
Besides, let’s say we got Pitts and Neal (best case scenario)….wouldn’t that put Caldwell back at center to go up against Ragdoll? Wouldn’t you like that? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, Rivers?
I don't think there is any way Studdard is starting by training camp
They’ll find some way to make him a reserve.
As for ragdoll….for better or for worse, I’m convinced that the Texans think he is a plus as a center. Everything they have done speaks to that. So I’m just gonna sit back, enjoy the ride, and pray for Matt Schaub.
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I think Caldwell will be starting at Center if they can sign Pitts & Neal
Studdard & Briesel as the backup guards, Myers & a draft pick as backup centers. That would be the best case scenario
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Mar 5, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
The "staff" doesn't like Caldwell at C
Dunno why, but that’s the rumor.
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they don't like
that he played in the SEC
Dunta's weightspeed was too low
I think securing the offensive line involved getting Neal and Pitts, or just Neal. Pitts with Briesel as a backup plan, Caldwell at center, and Neal at RG sounds pretty good to me. thats the only way it would make sense if they signed both Pitts and Neal.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
the coaches seem to like studdard
i think we need to get two interior oline guys in the draft
id love to have pitts back.
how about this for a shocker….
boldin to the texans for a 3rd and 6th…….
nasty!
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
A new team enters the fray
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Bengals-interested-in-Chester-Pitts.html
Still says the Texans are interested.
I just have to say
That having McClain as a beatwriter totally sucks ass during FA. Hello wild speculation!
I particularly liked the tweet where he said that Bodden would have to be given a starting job to play here
…duh?
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Insightful
and information that would have otherwise escaped us all
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Jordann is right
We took the kids to Sea World SA many times last year. That Walrus is a fuggin genius in comparison, and has a much better work ethic.
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by Shake on Mar 5, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't seem that we are very aggressive in this FA
And if Walter and Robinson signs fairly big contracts, i really hope we’ll get some good compensation!
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
Comp picks start in round 4?
I’m willing to bet if we sign Bodden or Neal or both we are going to get nothing. Don’t forget Oboe virtuoso might be leaving too.
Round 3
And if we lost Grossman, Dunta, Pitts, Walter…..and only signed Bodden and Neal…..we’d get 1.
As long as you lose more UFAs than you sign.
If we lost those players
And signed the two mentioned, I can’t imagine the pick being higher than a 5th.
Anyone care to step up to the Falcons...
And tell them they’re about to get FLEECED?? Surprised no Falcons fans have come here for an opinion. They would surely get one.
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They're getting one from the local media over there.
They’re announcing Dunta as a “Shutdown Corner” and that the Falcons organization are going to get better with Dunta on their roster.
/pukes
http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2010/3/4/1357587/the-2010-atlanta-falcons-free#comments
They are in denial.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Okay here's a real question
Grossman leaves, Texans bring in Delhomme to backup. Thoughts? I like the idea even if Jake is INT prone (Hey, we did have Sexcannon here), he seems like a good guy and right up our alley.
I'm sure in that scenario
Orlovsky stays anyway. Let the two fight it out to see who carries Schaubs golf clubs on Saturdays.
Same
And while Delhomme is a stand-up class act, I don’t think he’s really back to form after the surgery
by HoustonTransplant on Mar 5, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly
I think Booty is pretty much a nothing right now. Think Alex Brink. I really wouldn’t see him altering any thoughts about replacing Grossman if Sexcannon leaves through FA.
Look at this picture
Then watch this Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OolG-Oc0P4
I don’t really have much to add to this conversation, I just have been cracking up about seeing these two next to each other on my screen.
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by riversmccown on Mar 5, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fantastic commercial
For it to be more lifelike though the woman would’ve been hit with the ball in the “biscuits”.
Jake Delhomme getting cut
Proves that biscuit justice is a dish served cold.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
please, no
Delhomme would be the next, in a line of infamous/sidearmed Texan QBs (Mittens; Rosenchopper)
any given Sunday
Someone find some mild sedatives and mail them to Kerns
I don’t think he likes how this FA is going.
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by riversmccown on Mar 5, 2010 2:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I make it a point
To keep Braves fans at arms length at all times.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
I'm here.
I just don’t engage with dirty, dirty Mets fans.
And it isn’t just Free Agency. It’s everything about our cheap ass front office. As an 8 year season ticket holder, I’m fucking fed up with the words “On the Cusp.” Yet you let three of your starters walk and say “we’ll rebuild through the draft.” Why? So they too can walk in three years?
Guess I’m just no longer the Happy, Shiny fan I used to be. Someone has to take up the “negativity” throne now that BFDis as happy as a nude Neil Patrick Harris on a Unicorn now.
by Mike Kerns on Mar 5, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Want some cheese with that?
I get what you’re saying, but some of the premise is flawed.
We aren’t letting 3 real “starters” walk. Walter, yep – definite starter. Dunta would have been better suited in the nickle role w/ Frenchy playing man coverage as a starter. And Pitts may have BEEN a starter, but who’s to say he will be this year….returning from that injury?
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Reow!
I’ll gladly take up the Mr. Negativity role when pre-season predictions start rolling in and everyone lets optimism overtake the fact that our schedule is incredibly tough and Frank Bush is still the defensive coordinator.
But losing a guy coming off microfracture surgery, one of the most overrated CB’s in football who spent more time crying last year then playing well, and a WR that I think would see a reduced role here next year given Jacoby’s emergence…that isn’t exactly enough to make me go shouting for the hills.
Now if they don’t make any progress with DeMeco, THEN I’ll join you on the cheap management bandwagon.
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No, the fact is...
there are some solid pieces out there and the Texans aren’t doing anything.
I’m no Rockets fan, but Rick Smith needs to go get some tips from Daryl Morey.
There’s a 24 year old LT available for a 1st round pick
A Pro Bowl WR for a 3rd round pick
There’s a 27 year old RB who has ZBS experience
There’s a better CB and a good OG out there….
Why does Gary Bracket get a deal before DeMeco?
Where’s Pollard?
Where’s any news on an OD deal or trade?
Why did February go with only a DelJuan re-signing?
How is it that Turk was our big midnight deal?
Where’s the moves? We should want to get over that hump….not stay at it.
To tack on
There’s a good FS out there for no draft picks.
Derrick Johnson could probably be had for some sort of creative deal
I’m not expecting all of these moves or moves for the sake of moves….we don’t need Chicago desperation…
But in the past month our moves have been: Re-sign DelJuan Robinson and Sign Matt Turk. That’s a load of crap.
Um
MONTH? MONTH? Its been 16 HOURS people. PATIENCE.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
They re-signed DelJuan last week
And you could negotiate with your own free agents prior to today.
That means…DeMeco could’ve and should’ve had a deal.
hah
We’ll see. I’m not sure what Meco is asking and what the Texans are offering so its hard to know what is going on with the negotiations.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I just don't want to see DeMeco get Dunta'd
5 years, 30-40 million, 12-15 guaranteed….roughly similar to Brackett’s deal.
I think this goes somewhere between what you and Tim think
Tim thinks 30 mil with Suggs….Suggs was also basically a DE and racks up the sacks though.
Something like 22-25 mil guaranteed sounds right to me.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
Negativity?
Possibly.
I just see a team that doubles a .500 Coach’s salary as a bad move. Especially when they can’t even get a deal worked out for arguably its best Defensive Player.
If I didn’t love tailgating so much, I wouldn’t be giving my money up for Season Tickets this year.
And
We’re linked to Neal and Bodden. The Texans haven’t gone with the FA RB’s recently, nor have they given up draft picks for anyone but Schaub.
I would rather be cautious on the first day of FA—that is where teams are most likely going to overpay.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
I would just like to make a point if you don't mind
first day of FA
first day of FA
first day of FA
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
by nolander on Mar 5, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
What are you trying to say?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
that
We don’t need to flip out and say our team is dogging it in FA yet.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I'll certainly go along with that
…on a day when Dunta becomes one of the top-paid CBs, I don’t want to be part of that dogsled team…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Did you see what I did there?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
To me
This offseason is a turning point for our team. We either get enough gas to make it to the playoffs, or we stay the course, lose a few more on next years schedule and don’t. At some point, we become the Astros. I don’t want that to happen. But the fact is I can’t remember us ever resigning someone as good as the players we have now, and we need to set that precedent.
See Shake's and Rivers' thoughts below
Plus, there’s still a long way to go. Just because we didn’t sign KVB (Ole Red Eye), Chet Taylor, Julius Peppers, and Rolle, oddly, does not have me upset.
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BFD
For the last time, it isn’t JUST free agency. I don’t want any of those guys you just mentioned. I just think we should do a better job at locking up our own guys. Namely DeMeco FUCKING Ryans. Instead of letting them get so disgruntled that they’re going to blot, possibly even for less money, just to spite the Texans front office.
by Mike Kerns on Mar 5, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Kerns
The sun’ll come out…tomorrow…bet your bottom dollar…that tomorrow…there’ll be sun…
Zimas on me if you make it to Minute Maid for Horns-Rice tonight, my friend.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Mar 5, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Re: Uhhhhh
That’s the first line from the upbeat, legendarily optimistic tune from “Annie” (which, it should be noted, also gave us “It’s A Hard Knock Life”, later made famous by Shawn Carter). If a red-haired, freckled orphan can manage to stay positive in the face of adversity, you can too.
DeMeco and Pollard are gonna get paid. Don’t worry about it.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Mar 5, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Re: Banning
That would require you logging in more than once a fortnight.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Mar 5, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I have
missed him…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
On second thought
This comment makes me think of Patrick Bateman. Please don’t kill Mike.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Damn Yuppies
Always mass murdering their neighbors & coworkers
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
well
The problem is we don’t really know how much money we have offered these players. The only solid number I have ever heard was the 23 million guaranteed to Dunta, and how much more money can you throw at a guy?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I'm just not worried yet
I am a little about Pollard, DeMeco, and those guys, but it’s still March 5.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Leaping Lizards!
I have this feeling the Cap’n Meco and the Orphan-maker (get it? Annie?) are not worried. The team isn’t worried. Both sides have a plan and they will meet somewhere in the middle, in time, and all will be hunky-dory.
Put it in your pocket, Mrs. Mudge.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
If only they still made Zima...
Miss-placed Houstonian living and going to school in the wilderness of Wyoming. Fresno St. 28 - Wyoming 35 (2 OT)!!! Hands down best game I have ever been to.
New England patriots
should be favorites to pick up Anquin Boldin. Chiefs and Ravens are contenders too..
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
I hope the ravens get him, increasing our chance of keeping Walter
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Oh I know
But the Ravens are his biggest suitor right now.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
about that
Can they sign him being a final eight team? – without having lost one themself?
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
Houston — After finally scratching their way to the first winning record in the franchise’s eight-year history, the Texans can’t just sit back and get complacent. They’re going to lose both No. 2 receiver Kevin Walter (probably to Baltimore) and starting cornerback Dunta Robinson (probably to Atlanta), and they also finished out of the money in the pursuit of Titans defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch (who they coveted, but signed with Detroit).
No way we went after Vanderjerk
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Cause Eric Winston
would’ve been totally down with that.
by b0ng on Mar 5, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ummmm, to play what?
Behind Mario, Smith, and Barwin?
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Sports writer my ass.
More like fictional novelist.
Fuck the traditional media and all their speculatory articles.
by Jordann on Mar 5, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Including gameday announcers
Fucking reverse, my ass
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Mar 5, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
awesome
even in the offseason, Shake is pissed at the end around. I love it.
Dunta's weightspeed was too low
by texanphil on Mar 5, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
End around?
He was talking about reverses. You know, the kind we are going to see more of now that Walter resigned.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
by nolander on Mar 5, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
as long as we bring back
the half back pass.
Hopefully that didn’t leave for the ’Skins.
Dunta's weightspeed was too low
by texanphil on Mar 5, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully we take a shot at signing Antwan Randle El
then we can replace that HB Pass with a more reliable WR Pass
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Mar 6, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"I'm not sure who they're after, and how much they'll spend"
Then how does he know that the Texans went after Vanderjerk? And even if we did….we have 2 starting DEs and a project. There’s no need to overpay. He can go to Detroit and enjoy losing.
Kyle Vanden Douche headed to the Lions
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4968151
nice.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
DeMeco News?
From a Giants News Feed
“NFL source says 1st and 3rd tender pretty much eliminated NYG from being in market for HOU MLB DeMeco Ryans.”
ProFootballTalk
Cushing embraces MMA training http://is.gd/9MeWZ
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
Will Witherspoon got released by The Eagles
WLB for the Texans?
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
From Schefter
Filed to ESPN: Free-agent CB Dunta Robinson and Falcons agree to a six-year contract.
All I can say is: good luck with that.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
wow....
6 years? Thought Art Blank had more sense
by HoustonTransplant on Mar 5, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Just Posted FanShot On This On Main Page
Need to see how much guaranteed money there is, but I think Falcons fans will rue today.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Mar 5, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
From Scurfield
Chiefs UFA G Wade Smith, a 3rd-rd pick in ‘03 who’s from Dallas, will visit with the Texans tomorrow
Wade is #23 on PFF, and he’s 29.
Please go talk to Sims.
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jim sorgi to be cut...
best known for holding peyton’s clipboard
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Mar 5, 2010 5:11 PM CST reply actions
signs a 4 year and 28 million deal...
looks like he got his wish…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Mar 5, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
from pft
The thinking is that Walter will re-sign with the Texans, for a contract comparable to the one that receiver Nate Burleson signed with the Lions. If Walter waits too long, however, the Burleson money might not be there.
(taken from there boldin walter thing about ravens…)
I dont really like Walter for 5 yr 25…i wudnt mind 3 years 15 tho…dont need a 5 year commitment from him…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Mar 5, 2010 5:54 PM CST reply actions
I wish I could post a poll
I want to know how much of the Texans fan base actually expected the Texans to be big time players in Free Agency this year.
I never thought for a second that we would be looking at anybody other than maybe Taylor/Jones, maybe Rolle.
wat?
What of the players that have been signed did you want us to sign? We are involved in the best CB on the market, and arguably the best OG in the market. Its still only the first day.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
hmmmmm
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Double hmmmmm
Maybe Kerns will step back from the ledge now
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Good news on KW....
Jump!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I'll step back...
And throw you off. Cool?
by Mike Kerns on Mar 5, 2010 6:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
“The Texans have reached an agreement on a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract with free agent receiver Kevin Walter.”
“There are reports the Texans have lined up cornerback Leigh Bodden for an interview. They have talked to his agent, but no interview has been lined up as of today. They’re not expected to bring in free agents before Monday.”
- Chron.com
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
"The Texans have reached an agreement on a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract with free agent receiver Kevin Walter."
I would never have guessed that it would be for multi of those things.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Texans have reached w/ _____________
for thousands upon thousands of dollars
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Schefter now agrees w/ Pancakes
After Baltimore passed on him, Houston re-signed WR Kevin Walter.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Is it just me
Or is 6 years 72 million for peppers not really that bad? I mean the guarenteed money could suck if he gets injured, but after that? Seems nice.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Could be worse.
Depends on how he ages, I suppose. I wouldn’t want to be paying a guy when he’s 35, 36 years old.
Dansby to Miami
5 years, $43 million and 22 of that is guaranteed.
With that and Brackett’s deal (5 years, $33 million and 12 guaranteed), DeMeco’s deal should fit right in between there. Hopefully, with those parameters, we’ll see something quick.
Pancakes wants some internet traffic tonight:
Per his Twitter…
Kubiak is excited to get Walter back. I’ll have full story on chron.com later tonite.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Unforeseen development
It looks like Big Ben may get a new deal this offseason as well.
Of course, it depends on the outcome of the investigation and possible court verdict.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Walter is quoted somewhere
As saying its for 5 years
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Pats re-sign OG Stephen Neal for 2 years
Pitts is still out there…as is that RFA Seahawk OG (4th round tender)
As it sits right now
I think we get a comp 3rd for Dunta.
We lose it if we sign a comparable guy, like maybe Bodden?
The question I have is, does signing UFA Walter count against us, since he was on our roster this past year?
Dunta's weightspeed was too low
Good call
From Banks at SI:
If there’s one free-agent pairing of player-team that I feel good about from my free agency preview on Wednesday, it’s Houston receiver Kevin Walter winding up in Baltimore.
Sooo I wonder how that crow tastes Banks?
Meh
He was pretty close, but Arizona decided they really wanted to get rid of boldin.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
They were happy earlier
Now it’s. Oh no, chris Houston version 2. Same size, hair, and number
and how weird would it be if the texans took p robinson from fsu and gave him # 23. He has the dreads too. That would be creepy
by AllenOU on Mar 5, 2010 10:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jason LaCanfora is reporting
Dunta will be getting $23.5 million guaranteed.
If the entire contract is only worth $27 mil than he is getting a great deal in % guaranteed.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Mar 5, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
It won't be a $27 million dollar deal.
If that’s the guaranteed then I imagine the overall deal is worth $40-50 million. Most guarantees, so far, are roughly a little less than half of the total contract.
Antrel Rolle to the Giants
NFL.com is reporting 5 years worth $37 mil with $15 guaranteed and $22.5 in the first 3 years. He is now the highest paid safety in history, joining Carlos Dansby in that position specific statistic.
Im really glad we re-signed Walter. This makes the possible loss of OD easier to take and I think with Walter coming back the Texans would lean towards letting OD go if he signs an offer sheet somewhere.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
1st and a 3rd
I’d take that every day of the week.
No team will ever offer him at that price.
(trying to jinx it)
Dunta's weightspeed was too low
Officially
The official deal on Walter is 5 years, $21.5 million with 8 of that guaranteed. I think that’s a pretty solid deal.
so, he's also a scout, manager, star player, chuck norris's right nut.
damn, shouldn’t they just name the 49ers after patrick willis?
by typhoon.infamous on Mar 5, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
I hope we are out of the bodden sweepstakes
Use the draft and stay away
some of these contracts are insane
by AllenOU on Mar 5, 2010 11:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Patrick Willis said the same thing in Genesis.....but his editor took it out in the final version.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Mar 6, 2010 8:40 AM CST up reply actions
Wade Smith, the backup OG from Kansas City who was on his way to visit, has signed with Buffalo.
Pancakes is claiming that Pitts will go elsewhere.
The Bills are way more desperate then us
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
KC and Buffalo...what desperate!
Good to see the Texans showing some restraint. Which reminds me about the draft….the Texans are really set up in a good spot in the draft to satisfy a lot of needs. There’s no rush to be part of the FA-frenzy, which I think I remember someone else calling it. That’s what it is…Dunta being Exhibit A.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
LEIGH BODDEN News
The Patriots, Texans and Steelers are all vying for free-agent CB Leigh Bodden, according to league sources.
Bodden, who might be the best corner remaining on the market, intercepted five passes for New England last season, and the Patriots have made a sustained push to retain him. The Texans also are deep in the discussions, viewing Bodden as a replacement for departed CB Dunta Robinson, who received a huge free-agent contract from the Falcons.
The Steelers also are strong candidates for Bodden, who could end up with a contract averaging $7 million per season.
NE is making...
what’s being described as a late push to re-sign Bodden.
Pittsburgh and Houston still in the discussion….
I wonder where those reports are coming from
and who it is that is so well informed on who is making a push and how close everyone is….
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Its probably coming from Jason LaCanfora
He is an NFL insider so he has contacts in the front offices. Now whether everything he hears is true is hard to know because teams could just be performing smoke screens, but if he is reporting it than its probably true. Same with Schefter, Lombardi, Mortensen, and so on.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
Whatever Bodden's personal strengths and weaknesses
I would expect a player from NE to be well coached, and bring some savvy and professionalism to our defense. Which would help our younger, and less mature (I’m thinking you, Fred) players.
You can expand that list a little bit...
Which would help our younger, and less mature players
Quin, McCain, Barber, Fred, Frenchy…
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
well we did beat them last year
so if he wants to win, I bet he comes to Houston.
Dunta's weightspeed was too low
There’s a report the Texans are one of three teams competing for Bodden. Not true. They won’t be signing Bodden.
Pancakes is really just SO sure of himself this offseason…
I heard him say that the Texans like Kasey Studdard to start at Revolving Door next season...
….oh, that was caustic…I apologize for that remark…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I Was Going To Defend Pancakes
Hell, I don’t think I’ve ever even referred to him as pancakes. Then I noticed that he said he hopes Carr will get another chance to start (after his terrible experiences elsewhere). My guess is that Carr may be the worst QB of the decade. He’s probably collected $50 million. Why the hell would you wish that on the fans anywhere else (Dallas and Tennessee not withstanding)?
by kozanack on Mar 6, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
My guess is that Carr may be the worst QB of the decade
He was until Jamarcus Russell came into the NFL
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Mar 6, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Wade Smith
They made it sound like Buffalo was a done deal this morning, but apparently he is stil coming to Houston to visit.
Possibly.
If I’m Wade Smith, perhaps not. But If I’m me, and I am, I’ll play anywhere that pays me.
It’s my new Dunta Robinson attitude. You like?
by Mike Kerns on Mar 6, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I liked you better when we didn't have to pay you so much...
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
The Bills coaches coached him in KC
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
To great success, no doubt.
That KC offense was a juggernaut.
Seriously. If I were an offensive lineman, I think I’d rather block for Schaub while he throws to the best receiver in football to… Is JP Losman back from the Canadian league yet?
I'd take a free trip to Houston
Dunta's weightspeed was too low
Courtesy of Pro Football Talk:
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the New York Jets have traded Kerry Rhodes to the Arizona Cardinals for a fourth-round pick this year and a seventh-round pick next year.
This weakens the Jets defense and I think they are worse off now with Cromartie and no Rhodes than they were last season with Rhodes and without Cromartie.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
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