Changing The Game: Dunta Robinson To Atlanta
by Tim on Apr 19, 2010 9:53 PM CDT
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It's my pleasure to announce that our friends at Sprint have partnered with our overlords at SB Nation. What does this mean to BRB? It means a weekly post for the next six weeks in which we examine "game-changers" as it applies to your Houston Texans. Yeah, we're selling out. Wanna make something of it? Regardless, this means more content, which is generally a good thing. Unless you get me going about what I'll do on Thursday night if Ryan Mathews is the pick at No. 20. Two words, my friends: Hissy fit.
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Back on topic...popular opinion seems to be that your Houston Texans need to go CB early because Dunta Robinson will no longer make Baby Jebus cry in Houston ply his trade in H-Town. Zuh? Is there anyone out there who thinks that losing Dunta to the Falcons makes the Texans worse? Isn't this a case of the game changing, if you will, for the better? Even if that means Jacques Reeves and Glover Quin are your starting corners for Week One?
Discuss.
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interesting point
i think dunta leaving is better for us…he was jsut terrible in coverage and had lots of penalties, not to mention his bad relationship with our FO…he seems to be good friends with lots of his teammates tho…
anyway just wanted to be first also so we dont get any of that stupid ____ Dunta stuff in the first comment
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Apr 19, 2010 9:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I believe it does make us worse
but not in the traditional sense: We lose a starting CB. We all know he wasn’t the same once he got hurt.
The sense is that Reeves was our nickel guy, and a very good nickel at that. Bumping him up means you then bump McCain up to a nickel and have someone fill in the dime – whether it’s never healthy Molden or forgotten man Bennett or unknown Parsons (who’s on the roster).
We’re weak in the sense that our depth is kind of ruined and dependent on A) McCain continuing his development, B) Molden staying healthy and C) Bennett returning to form.
Maybe it’s a bit of an overreaction to add a Wilson or McCourty in round 1, but it then pushes Reeves (or Quin) back to the nickel while McCain goes down to the dime. In that sense, we’re better than we were in 2009 because Wilson/McCourty are going to be much better than burnt Dunta.
If we’re insanely lucky then Bennett is a ballhawk, Molden’s healthy, and we have a very good stable of CBs.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Apr 19, 2010 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This ^
Just that we lost a CB who’s playing time needs to be replaced by someone…..not that we lost a CB1. I’m good w/ a CB selection anytime on Thursday or Friday to fill that role.
If they take another CB on Saturday for depth/injuries/etc. purposes, then all the better.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Mm-hmm...2 may be good
that said, we do have a shot at a legit #1 CB (Haden, Wilson, McCourty), and it’d be hard to pass on taking that.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Tim?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Please
let rmac244 die. In a fire.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
While getting hit by a train?
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
I think its a shill account
Gotta be a secondary account .
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I think we are worse off
I think we are worse, but not by nearly the gap that the media would have you believe. In my eyes, Dunta was improving at the end of the season. Although he was by no means good, he was not nearly as horrible as a few people here seem to believe.
While I do agree that he does need to be replaced, it does not have to be with a first round pick. That being said, if we cant get a true #1 corner, I say we go for it in the first round. I can only dream of the Texans have anything similar to Revis Island and allwing Cushing, Meco and Bonecrusher to blitz more. That would be a scary situation for any opposing quarterback.
Dunta Robinson leaving doesn't change the calculus at all
But the original calculus pretty much says “we could use a #1 cornerback”
Are Wilson or McCourty (or Jackson) going to be those guys? I personally don’t think so, at least not right away in Wilson’s case. But whenever a high profile player leaves there is always a chorus to replace him properly. Look at how many Green Bay fans wanted to bring in an experienced QB to backup Rodgers after Favre left. It’s a natural reaction.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 19, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Even before Dunta was gone, we needed a grab a corner in this draft to develop. I guess Dunta leaving just makes us have to rush that player into the starting lineup sooner. However, Smithiak does not have a problem having first round rookies starting.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 20, 2010 6:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
In the absolute sense, it definitely makes us worse. Anyone who thinks Dunta is shittier than the worst CB on our roster has drank from the “fuck cunta” kool-aide one too many times.
Plus, whatever, I still like him, even if not as a #1 CB.
In the opportunity cost sense, though, it probably makes us better. Presumably now we’ll draft a CB in the first or second round, who will probably be not that much worse than Dunta in his first year, hopefully better, and probably much better in the years to come. And thats better than hanging on to Dunta and hoping that we get lucky (again?) with late-round CBs.
Losing Dunta makes us ...
worse. This time Friday though it might make us much better. It would have been nice to go into the draft without a desperate need for a CB. But to be honest, Dunta lost a step after his horrific injury and short sighted hold out last summer. He was often beat in coverage and had to commit penalties to cover up for his lack of closing speed. So while it would be nice to have our servicable secondary from last year together and an opportunity to improve another part of our team with a first round pick, getting rid of Dunta just acknowledges a problem that was already there.
From a cap standpoint this is a great move. Anyone who thinks Dunta is worth the contract he got from Atlanta or the money we would have had to pay to franchise him for a second year in a row raise your hand. Anyone? Replacing Dunta with a (I am guessing) cheaper and better player selected at the end of the first round makes us better. Hopefully, it doesn’t cost too much in missing out on a top RB, safety or center/guard.
I'd actually like to thank Dunta
for being here to mentor our 2 new corners (for the record: I believe Quin will be a solid CB2 for a long time and Mccain at worst is a decent nickel and depth corner) and hopefully instilling his physical style of play and leadership into them (especially Quin, who likes to hit someone as well). Dunta needed to move on and so did the Texans. It worked out for everyone.
I believe after drafting two DBs and bolstering the DLine a bit, our corners will be a very productive group this season. Dunta’s only claim for us to keep him would’ve been his locker room presence and leadership but now Demeco has clearly taken leadership of the defense and guys like Cushing and Pollard will pace the D as well.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 20, 2010 9:25 AM CDT reply actions
Leading by example
By not being ready for the first game of the season and telling the GM to pay him on his shoes.
Dunta Robinson, leader.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 21, 2010 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My own breakdown...
Yes, like many others I will flip shit if we grab Mathews in the first. Thankfully I won’t be able to watch it live and get the opportunity to ruin my TV.
If it were me picking, I would grab Haden (pipe dream), E. Thomas (pipe dream), D. Williams (pipe dream), Wilson, or McCourty. In that order. A running back would not be on my radar until Friday.
I would feel safer strengthening our secondary first and then add to a already potent offense. Especially if we can grab backs like B. Tate, M. Hardesty, el Toby, and maybe have a shot at Mr. Best in the 2nd round.
I have to say..
BTW, since i do not have cable let alone the NFL network, will sites like NFL.com, and ESPN be having live updates on their website?
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
I seriously doubt finding draft results will be an issue :-)
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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 20, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I do too
I just wanted somewhere for up to the minute results… I want to feel like I am almost watching it… or i will just go to the local Mob restaurant/sports bar, and watch it there.
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Unless you follow Pancakes
who will tell you tomorrow what happened yesterday followed by analysis the week before next on the following Friday.
"Lord, beer me strength."
speaking of twitter...
DA cracks me up:
whiteout89: Joe Montana- Shape Ups, Mike Golic- nutri system, Emmit-Just for Men, Strahan-Subway, Jimmy Johnson-Cialis. . . D Anderson- Slap Chop 2.0
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Go Texans!
I'm sure a site or two will have it. There's a site for everything nowadays...
Of course, if Mathews is the pick,….my liver will be begging for mercy by pick 21.
"Lord, beer me strength."
now that you have stated that
it brings up Rule 34… I wonder if there is NFL draft porn… hmmm
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
They just had some woman on ESPN first take
that said “the Texans WILL be taking a running back at 20, either C.J. Spiller or Ryan Mathews”…who lets these women out of the kitchen?
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 20, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
I dont know
but the man should be brought to justice… someone get my whip with the metal shards on the end, it is time to flog the man who can’t control his womanz
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
...aaaaand
Now we know why he’s not married.
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
Precisely
What’s that dear? Sorry, y’all, need to take the garbage out.
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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 20, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Sheeeet!
I am not married because I am young, and smart… but really my gf pwnz me when i get out of line..
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Pshh.
You don’t know pwnage until you see your testicles in a Coach clutch bag that you paid a stupid amount of money for.
STUPID amount of money.
(it does match the Coach wallet and boots beautifully, I must admit. Who needs a retirement plan anyway?)
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
Makes me that much happier I'm married to a fellow hippie
But I do have her re-model jonesing I have to compete with.
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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 20, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh i know
She transfers my testicles from her Coach mini purse to her Dooney and Burk plaid purse… then she wears them with her Tiffany’s necklace… wtf am i thinking… and everyone keeps asking why i havent proposed to her yet.. I am like cuz every time i get the money she spends it on something frivolous dammit
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Just sayin'
As far as a woman’s opinion, I guarantee my sister knows more about college hoops and MLB than 99% of men out there. Easily.
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http://www.battleredblog.com
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 20, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but
what about sports that matter?
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
by Autra on Apr 20, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
She's a colts fan. Ugh
When the Oilers disappeared, she was in grad school at IU. She’s been a Dolts fan since. Hate.
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http://www.battleredblog.com
I hope they gave her quite a grant for that one
Living in Indianapolis would be incomprehensible without one.
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by riversmccown on Apr 21, 2010 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Gotta admit
You’re a bigger man than I am.
I wouldn’t claim her as family anymore.
Haha
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
Can I just say?
I’ve been following all the draft talk. My opinions mirror or are – honestly – heavily influenced by the BRB discussions that have been ongoing. Like most, I don’t think its a good idea to draft a running back in the first round. But whatever happens Thursday night (and Friday and Saturday) I won’t be upset no matter what happens.
That’s how much I trust Smithiak. Why? Because of Brian Cushing.
Curious
Just a curious question, why did everyone on here hate the Cushing pick so much? I was fine with Matthews or Cushing. Thoughts?
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Apr 20, 2010 1:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Mine
1. Injury prone
2. System player
3. Poor fundamentals, especially tackling
4. Workout wonder
5. And, whether anybody likes it or not, there were plenty of steroid accusations.
Of the above, it was #2 that really bothered me. USC had a poor track record of producing NFL quality players, and a lot of them became flat-out busts (Bing, Leinart, Bust, for example). It looks like Keith Rivers (and Rucker) broke that, and Cushing and Matthews put the exclamation mark on it. So maybe the busts just come from the offensive side now. :-)
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http://www.battleredblog.com
Poor track record of quality NFL players?
I’ll assume you mean under the Carroll years cause…they’re the university with the most HOF enshrinements.
Although with Polamalu, Tatupu, Ellis, Rivers, Rucker, the LB trio, and Seau….their active defensive guys sure do look good.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Sorry, yes, the Carroll years
MDC and I came up with a list (sorta like the one for UT the other day), and it was very uncomplimentary. That’s the worry about his system, which uses a 4-3 under (much more closely than we do), and how it can stress the performance of certain players over others.
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http://www.battleredblog.com
We don't use a 4-3 under
Clearly it’s the Tampa-2.
/memories
On the whole, I would agree with that statement about Carroll and USC. Exceptions, of course, but on the whole? Better sum than the parts.
"Lord, beer me strength."
That's why we have to draft
a Tampa 2 cover NT.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 20, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rubbish
Space eating punter kicker.
Jeez, is that how long we’ve been making cracks about our crappy NT play?
/weeps quietly to self/
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Janikowski
Could be that man.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Al Davis was smart to lock him down
4 year, $16 mil contract. Big Bass ain’t getting away
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 20, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I want a new d scheme
I have always wanted a new scheme and for it to be called texan 4-3 aka the colt killer, but that is currently a pipe dream
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
New scheme?
Heck, I’d settle for a creative blitz to be called. Something other than the Bush Zone.
"Lord, beer me strength."
me too
believe me anything except the zone… but it would be fun if Bush created his own scheme that was you know fun…
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
...
Rudy T put it best. Never underestimate the heart of a champion….
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Apr 20, 2010 3:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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Rudy T put it best. Never underestimate the heart of a champion….
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Apr 20, 2010 3:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Disagree
Never underestimate the heart of a champion somebody with a strong work ethic.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Never underestimate the heart of a meathead with a mohawk.
I will never forget the pic that you posted, I think it was you, on DGDBDM of cushing wearing the pink feathery scarf. I think it was followed by a naughty article…
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Apr 20, 2010 5:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That was one of MDC's "fake conversations w/ real people"
Something about Cushing and p0rn
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
whoops
That was suppose to be a response to BFDs Cushing analysis…
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Apr 20, 2010 3:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
So does this mean....
That we can get discount on sprint lines/phones?
Because im looking for a new carrier.
IMO...
Sprint rocks.
So glad to get away from the evil ATT and their Steve Jobs fetishings.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Agreed
On Sprint. I’ve had nothing but a great experience with them for the last 11 years, though I know many of my friends have had their issues.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
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