2010 NFL Draft: Reactions Thread
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 7:20 AM CDT
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PrintAbout 14 hours later, I straggle out of my draft-induced haze to discover that we actually have 9 new players on our roster and the time of talking about what the draft will bring is over. We can stop talking about the potential team and start refocusing our eye on what we have (and lack).
The plan here at BRB includes detailed look-ins at all of the picks eventually. if you missed them, DreKeem wrote up a piece on Kareem Jackson, Kerns officially divorced Bernard Pollard as his mancrush for Ben Tate, and BFD slaughtered many innocents in protest of Earl Mitchell.
My initial analysis of the picks follows the jump.
Jackson: Absolutely fine with the value of the pick and the player, yet extremely disappointed the Texans didn't take Dan Williams for reasons that I'm positive anyone who has visited this blog for more than the last two days understands.
Tate: Dig the pick, dig the player. The only guys on my board rated over him at the time of the trade back were Morgan Burnett and Terrence Cody. Lets be honest, there was no way we were taking Cody. Ergo, to move back and essentially pick up a free early fourth rounder after all the math is done was pretty smart.
Mitchell: I'm hopeful he can surprise us, but I think the game has changed to the point that you need someone big inside. I, like BFD, am also distrustful of Bill Kollar. This is my least favorite pick of all of them.
Darryl Sharpton: A sleeper at the WLB spot, where he has the motor and coverage skills that the Texans are looking for, if maybe not the instincts. He could beat out Zac Diles, and if not, he provides depth should DeMeco ever be forced from the game (like that will ever happen). This is our strongest sign yet that Xavier Adibi is on the roster bubble.
Garrett Graham: The important thing Graham brings to the team is that in addition to his red zone skills, he's also supposedly a good blocker. A big part of the Texans struggles in the run game last year was that the team had problems running out of the two tight end sets. Between Owen Daniels' poor blocking, a down year from Joel Dreessen, rookie mistakes from James Casey, injury problems, and Anthony Hill, they were never able to properly establish the run out of that 2 TE set. That is a big factor in the Kubiak offense. Graham also might be a signal that between the multiple surgeries to Hill and Daniels, they aren't sure they can count on them for a full season. I like this pick a lot more than I did when it was announced.
Sherrick McManus: He seems to have terrific ball skills, if maybe not top quality speed. Some people were asking where the FS was, I think this might be the person you were looking for. Also, should you find yourself doubting why we hadn't picked someone like Myron Rolle or Donovan Warren, remember that the Texans should have earned your trust on small school DB's last year between Brice McCain and Glover Quin. This pick probably sealed Fred Bennett's fate.
Shelley Smith: I'm not as excited about this pick. I like that we tried to address the interior line, and he seems like a scheme fit, but we already had a subpar level of performance pretty much locked in at guard between Wade Smith, Antoine Caldwell, Mike Briesel, and Kasey Studdard. We needed someone with higher upside than this, in my mind. Time will tell and hopefully Rick Dennison saw good things in him, but I could take or leave this pick.
Trindon Holliday: This was a pretty stellar pick. Not only does it pave the way for Andre Davis to be released, but it also has the potential to free Jacoby Jones up for more work on offense and less on special teams. As someone who thinks Jacoby's offensive production is the x-factor of the 2010 season, I come down very much in favor of this.
Dorin Dickerson: I don't think he's a wide receiver, despite what Texans brass has said. I think that's just to get some local overreaction to the tight end insurgency under control. He's a mismatch; that's his position. He can't block enough to play tight end, but he's taller than any defensive back and quicker than most linebackers. Put it together and I think you have a really nice seventh round steal.
What do you think, BRB? Regrets? Kudos? I'd give us about a B/B- myself, noting that while I like most of the picks, the continued lack of beef in the middle of the interior line (either of them) scares the crap out of me.
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Also, a few early draft grades:
Rob Rang, NFL Draft Scout/CBS: B-
Many forecasted that the Texans would take a cornerback in the first round to replace free-agent defection Dunta Robinson, but the team surprised by adding Alabama’s Kareem Jackson over other highly touted prospects. Jackson is a good fit for Houston’s scheme. He possesses similar physicality in coverage and against the run that made Robinson a franchise player. RB Ben Tate (Auburn) gives the club the big back they’ve been chasing. He possesses enough lateral agility and explosiveness to jump ahead of Steve Slaton as the team’s primary ball carrier. Defensive tackle Earl Mitchell (Arizona) was brought in to push former first-round pick Amobi Okoye. The Texans might be worried about Owen Daniels’ rehabilitation from a torn ACL, electing to invest in undersized tight ends — and pass-catching specialists — Garrett Graham and Dorin Dickerson after picking James Casey last year.
Mel Kiper, ESPN: B
Pick a position group and the Texans took a stab at finding a good player there. They got a solid corner to replace Dunta Robinson with Kareem Jackson at No. 19. A predictable, solid pick. Ben Tate looks even better as a value at No. 58 considering Minnesota traded up to get Toby Gerhart at No. 51, and given the struggles to hang onto the ball by Houston rushers last year, he figures to get a great look. Then there’s players with promise all over. Darryl Sharpton could get a look on the inside of the 3-4 at linebacker, and Trindon Holliday could be the next Dante Hall. Even Dorin Dickerson way down at No. 227 has promise at tight end if he can add strength. Nothing amazing, but plenty of promise.
Personally, I had no idea we still ran a 3-4!
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
...or that we picked at number 19
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
Yes, looks like someone else was in a draft haze...
Kiper Jr should have an assistant assigned to him who does nothing but dot his Is and cross his Ts for him…oh, and correct his obviously wrong assumptions. Wait, that person should be writing his own draft analysis! Because Kiper Jr is so full of sh—!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I think it's because of all the chemicals in his gel
seeped down and affected some of those brain cells.
by typhoon.infamous on Apr 25, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
pick 19?
3-4 in Houston? what kiper?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Apr 25, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
McShay's thoughts
@RUNMGD: ESPNs Todd McShay on the AFC South: BEST DRAFT GRADE = Houston. WORST DRAFT GRADE = Jacksonville Agree on both #texans #jaguars
"Lord, beer me strength."
he also said
that houston had the biggest reach in the afc with Ben Tate…excuse me, didnt some dude named alualu go 10th overall?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Apr 25, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Their comments on Dickerson at TE goes to show how thorough these guys are.
Hard to take them seriously when they are unaware of how the Texans will use these players.
With little help addressing the O-line
I don’t know that I can give us a draft grade of a B. But maybe there was no one that they truly loved in the earlier rounds and thought Shelley was enough. I will give Smithiak the benefit of the doubt for now, but I am not confident we got much better.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The BRB Bloggers followed up nicely with their analysis of some of the picks
We all know that drafting is not a perfect science. It is science after all and sometimes mold grows even under perfect conditions and messes up the Petri dish.
Look back at the BRB reaction to 1st rounder Kareem Jackson. It was disbelief followed by some overreaction followed by “okay, maybe this guy can play, let’s trust Smithiak.” I think today most of us are looking at Kareem Jackson and thinking, yes, this guy can play and he can play tomorrow and he will fit right in! DreKeem said it well, “With the playoffs just around the corner, the Texans are in a position in which Jackson is exactly what they need.”
Regarding Ben Tate; he is the perfect RB for the Texans and they demonstrated masterful draft-day trading like we expect only from the Patriots. It was masterful and it culminated with them getting the guy they wanted and picking up an additional pick. I think, with few exceptions, we are all loving this pick and loving how trade-savvy Smithiak was in getting there!
Early Mitchell was received rather coolly. I think to the last guy on BRB we were all saying, “Who is Earl Mitchell?” At first glance, he looked exactly like Amobi Okoye. And may I opine that the initial somewhat negative reaction directed at Earl Mitchell was really a reaction meant for Amobi Okoye? I’m no psyche major, but I’m just saying. Amobi has been an under-performing former 1st rounder and here are the Texans drafting his clone a few years later in the 3rd round, and truth be told, Earl Mitchell WILL be challenging Amobi Okoye for playing time. Make no mistake about that. Side by side those two players are mirror images of each other. Yes, we all wanted a space-eater DT. And, there were a few still out there. But, maybe those guys were just Frank Okams. Think about that. So, my suggestion on Earl Mitchell is this; let’s give him a chance to get on the field and show us what he can do. At the least, he will make the team better, because as I recall, last year Okoye was on the field on almost every defensive play. The guy needs a rest. He will be more effective if he can be spelled for a few series now and then.
In conclusion; I like this draft! Smithiak weren’t aggressive on finding OL help, but hey, one step at a time. The team is better, better and better with those first three picks and right now that is all that matters. Oh, and what about how they closed out the draft with those gems in the 6th and 7th rounds? Yeh, baby! That pushed the draft right over the top for me! I think those guys have a place on this team!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Apr 25, 2010 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Instead of drafting someone to push Amobi
Why couldn’t we have drafted someone to push Zgonina or Cody?
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2010 11:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Am I high?
Or did Rip just compliment me?
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
by DreKeem on Apr 25, 2010 3:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I am one of the people who coolly reacted to Mitchell
I agree that Amobi has underperformed, but he’s 22.
There is value to the argument that “he was a 10th overall pick, he should have performed by now!”, but again… he’s 22. I think he has a longer leash before anyone can truly call him a bust.
We’ve all had this argument before, I’m sure. Nothing wrong with pushing/spelling Amobi, but that’s a fairly high pick to dedicate to such a use. Seems like we could have used a FS or a OG there. Gotta move forward with what we’ve got, though.
sooo...
i think this draft means that Andre Davis, Dreesen, Bennett/Molden will all be traded or released b4 training camp…
other thoughts:
Tits – Got Verner, Rolle, Johnson late all 3 I wanted the Texans to take…also they got a good WR in the 3rd that had late 1st, early 2nd projection…
UNDRAFTED FA – upset we didnt get Warren, Blount, Matthews…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Apr 25, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions
Bernard is jealous that you've been sneaking off behind his back and interviewing Ben
And believe him, your bones will get a workout way worse than P90.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit, doing Yoga
is the equivalent of taking a hit from Bonecrusher.
Haven’t had a chance to ask you yet who your favorite pick of this draft was, personally.
Kerns has enough love to have an defensive man crush and an offensive man crush. Of course, these are not as offensive as Pancakes with Vince Young or Toby Gerhart.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
also
the texans have more tight ends now then tiger woods had…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Apr 25, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions
i only liked Day 1...
While I don’t know who the heck Mitchell is, at least that was a position of need.
When Day 2 came around, I honestly wondered what the heck we were doing. A Linebacker and a Tight end in Round 4 when interior o-linemen were on the board? No safeties? Shelley Smith in the 6th rather than Mitch Petrus in the 5th?
I would be more than happy to be proven wrong, but right now, trisoman is mighty displeased.
Dude...
I drank a lot, but even I could tell there were 3 days of the draft.
Round 1 was Day 1.
Rounds 2-3 were Day 2.
Rounds 4-7 were Day 3.
You’re just a day off, but it makes a difference.
Dude, one day off!
That’s thats what happened to Smithiak.
THAT’S what was wrong with the day 2 picks!
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
HA!
I love cussing at myself.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
My initial draft reaction was
Nanoo Nanoo Nanoo!
When I said if we lost Robinson to free agency we’d likely need to draft a CB in the first round if we couldn’t trade down or up in the 2nd in order to get one of the first tier of CBs I was told there was only 1st round CB in this draft and was called crazy for suggesting at least 3-4 CBs would go in round 1… Final tally was 5 CBs taken in the first round, and 2 more before we picked in the 2nd.
My sanity was questioned when I predicted that the Texans wouldn’t draft Dan Williams even if he were available, because for #1 he was going to be a top 15 pick and #2 NT was our top need and we could get plenty of CBs in round 2 cause of course only 1-2 would be taken before then. Dan Williams did fall to the Texans, who did choose to pass on him, and kept sliding untill he was picked at #26
Retardation was suspected when I made the claim that if the Texans drafted a DT early in the draft it would be a smaller “UT” type of DT and most definitely not a NT… in the third round the Texans picked a 295lb DT who had some of the fastest drill times of all tackles.
The debate over the big fat NT position awarded me so much negativity that I eventually stopped posting here because I couldn’t say the sky was blue without being called a moron for not seeing that it was in fact grey. It just so happens that in many of these debates, the Texans at least, agreed with me. So Nanoo nanoo nanoo, and i’m out again. :)
Welcome back, Bryan
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
You could have just said
“I told you so.”
But then we would have suspected that someone hacked your account.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2010 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
As far as the gloating....
I know my expectations were that we would take a Mitchell type player, not a DWill kind of guy. That’s Bush’s and Kollar’s MO. But, it doesn’t mean I agree with the strategy, and just because we had the 18th ranked defense last year, and the best in our history, means relatively nothing.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
If Earl does his job, great...
but if he doesn’t then can we fire Kollar? Please?
"Lord, beer me strength."
Personally
I think you missed the point of our arguments, and still do.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I would say theres more to it than that
But as you’re only going to be a quick hitter, no need to continue debates and have people get mad at you for being long-winded. Hahah.
So congrats on being the seer that none of us wanted to be right, chum.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't here for your arguments
But in regard to the DTs, did you phrase the arguments as “this is what the Texans should do”? Or as “given the preferences of the coaching staff, this is what they will do?”
If it was the former, then yea, I would have probably joined in. If it was the latter, then I don’t think too many people would disagree with you.
His argument on the DT was the latter
Ours were the former (asking for a fatty).
I do disagree that everyone said only 1 CB would go 1st. Everyone thought 3-4 in the weeks leading up to the draft.
"Lord, beer me strength."
As I recall
He argued both. I can’t remember if he just didn’t like NTs or if he just didn’t like the NTs that where available. At the time also, It was expected many CBs like Kyle Wilson where going to go later then they did. Obviously the grades on them changed over time.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
At the time
I just felt that he wanted his a$$ kicked on BRB.
AJ gives us a C-
http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2010m4d25-Texans-draft-recap—grades-must-wait
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Wild speculation and hearsay were never my thing either
But jeez Burge, we’re all going to be sitting around here for another 8 weeks or so until training camp starts, what are we supposed to talk about?
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
What is everyone's favorite girl scout cookie?
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Tagalongs
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Tagalongs are the ONLY real GSC.
So that makes you more Socialist?
"380 pounds of pure pirogi" ~ Cush
This is the correct answer.
But at least it seems like the thin mint lobby hasn’t hypnotized you guys yet. Good on you all.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Who would like thin mints?
If I wanted something minty then I would brush my teeth.
"Lord, beer me strength."
THIN MINTS SUCK!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The fiance's favorites are the Thin Mints
She puts them in the freezer though. Weird, but it does seem to make a difference….
How did we end up in this discussion again?
Same thing my mom does.
We wound up here because Burge told us we couldn’t speculate on the draft yet.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Read the piece.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Just did
That was 2007. I see. And I can agree. Like I said, I gave the 2006 a similar grade back in 2006.
Fuck that.
Thin mints are the best. Clearly.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Given the discussion we are having above you about women liking thin mints
Should I be assuming things about you and DT?
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You're insane
Thin Mints are the best.
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Czar Nicholas II
Does not approve of your message.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Nor does Rasputin
but his wang is preserved in a jar in a St Petersburg museum so his opinion doesn’t count.
Carla: How about Junior Mints?
Turk: Woman, if I want my candy to freshen my breath I’ll put some toothpaste on a whatchamacallit and go to town"
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
The correct answer...
…are those peanut butter cookies.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 25, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm SHOCKED that cookies would get you in such an uproar.
Shocked I say.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
HAHA!
Just trying to create a ruckus.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Bring the ruckus
Bring the motha fuckin’ ruckus!
by DisplacedTexan on Apr 25, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Uncle Ruckus
Gon talk bad about you chillun
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Thin MINS FTW!!!! if you think different
you are a Socialist Wh0re and shall be executed in a manner for public enjoyment… I have a plan to bring back Gladiator Fights… TO THE DEATH!
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
You're all over-analyzing this!
Get a box of each and eat them all…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on Apr 25, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I did that to the samoas
and the peanut butter ones, but they’re just my baby’s momma, Thin Mints are my stepford wife
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
What are the ones dipped in fudge called?
Cause those are pretty good as well.
"Lord, beer me strength."
BRB
Your source for all things Girl Scout Cookie.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 25, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see a post from MDC
With charts and percentages clearing this debate all up…
by Mike Kerns on Apr 25, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's obvious that Thin Mints are the #1 selling cookie
But you can see in the quantity that they give you for $3.50 that they believe it is an inferior cookie in comparison to the peanut butter one.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely need more charts.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2010 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Pillow biters?
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2010 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Caramel D'Lites and Thanks-a-lots
My favorites.
By the way, thin mints are teh complete suck.
Matt Schaub = Caramel D’Lites/Thanks-A-Lots
Mittens = Thin Mints.
by typhoon.infamous on Apr 26, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks-a-lots
Are a definite sleeper pick. Love them.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 26, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions
By popular Demand
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
by Taco Joe on Apr 26, 2010 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
For the truth.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2010 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't agree with that at all
I wanted us to pick Dan Williams and Gerhardt, but our first two picks seem to be solid, and I also like Holliday and Dickerson a lot. Only Earl Mitchell is a real question mark to me.
How do you guys think Mitchell will be used? Will he replace Amobi on passing downs or will he be put along side him? Do you think he’ll only be situational or will he eventually start?
Also, why is everyone so upset at Bill Kollar for the Mitchell pick? Wasn’t the decision to draft him on Smithiak and Frank Bush? I’m sure Kollar has an influence, but do they really let him decide what type of DTs to draft?
Sorry, got off track. I give us a B.
I can't see Amobi and Mitchell playing together very often
So perhaps he will replace Amobi on passing downs. Which makes no sense at all, but whatever.
I think the reason that people dislike Kollar is that he tends to favor lighter tackles who can get upfield quickly, while many on this board (myself included) want a space-eater to occupy blockers. Since this is Kollar’s preferred system, it would make sense that Smithiak goes for guys that fit his style.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 25, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think BFD has the stats on Kollar’s career, but it’s not impressive. So I question why Kollar was able to get his guy with a rather early pick in the draft and why he got it over say Dennison who may (should) want some O-line help.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
If there was Robert Johnson, I'd give it an A.
Honestly, the Texans got the guys they said they were going to get.
Physical, starting CB? Check.
Power RB with good hands? Check.
1-gap penetrating DT? Check. (His job is easy: Push the pocket, get to the QB…he does that and it’ll be a success)
Offensive line depth? Check.
Returner to help bring some electricity to Reliant? Check.
Their usual project player? Check.
Heck, they even added LB depth (which was a problem) and TE depth (which they’re obviously worried about all of the TEs coming off of surgery, minus Thor).
The only thing missing is FS depth. They added some UDFAs, but I definitely wanted it addressed in the draft.
At the end of the day, I questioned 2 picks…I wanted a FS….but this team is undoubtedly better than it was in 2009. Draft grade is a B. They got their guys…and now it’s time to hit the field.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Offensive line depth - I would have preferred using one of the 4th rounders for that
or even the 5th. Sharpton looks like he can help on special teams and with his coverage skills at WLB (over Diles in passing situations). Graham looks like he could be the second coming of OD, which would be fabulous. That said, I still would have preferred more quality OL depth from the draft.
Know nothing about Shelley Smith other than he is apparently the obligatory CSU Ram.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Apr 25, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way, Ben Tate told me
To tell all you guys to follow him on Twitter and friend him on Facebook.
For 2011, the first round formula
- Instant day 1 starter. Means it must fill a need.
- Fits what they want out of that position (RBs who can catch, WRs who can block, athletic linemen, DBs who are physical, etc)
- Leader
- Comes from a good program
- Fans initially won’t like him because there’s no connection to him in the pre-draft season.
- Scheme fit.
I know people say Mathews was their guy, but if he really was…no one ever would’ve known and San Diego wouldn’t have had knowledge to trade up for him. I believe it was always Kareem in their dreams to fit the scheme that’ll cream Peyton.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Apr 25, 2010 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I guess we'll never know (thank you SD for taking Mathews)
I just like the fact that SD gave up their second and fourth to move up. FOR MATHEWS! Man, if that kid does not do well, goodbye AJ Smith.
However, your breakdown looks about right. We’ll have to remember next year’s draft that we will have two polls: the BRB player who the Texans should take and the player no one considered who they will actually take.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't...
Remember SS was a pretty big need until we signed Pollard in the 2nd week of the season. You can bet on Smithiak making another FA move like that this season as well. And most likely, it’ll be safety…
Keep in mind...
A bunch of talent was added at all positions, even FS, for a bunch of teams. When the overall talent pool increases at a position, there are a few extra cast-offs who are considered borderline. Borderline is where we seem to find the best talent.
That is why I think it’s a given to happen this season again.
And a side note...
It may be Offensive Line with Guard and Alan Faneca. Just saying…wouldn’t that be a feather in the cap for Smithiak?
i think Pitts might come back
Found this on Twitter
Chester_Pitts
What’s up youngster! Ill hit u up! RT @BenTateRB: @Chester_Pitts lookin fwd to meeting u man
living the Texas dream
I like Pitts a lot, I hope he does
But I think Tate might just be under the impression that Pitts is still signed with the team, and Pitts just doesn’t want to say “Dude, we’re not teammates!”
The Texans just don't value safeties that much
They’d have to be set EVERYWHERE else, IMO, for that to happen.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Certainly looks like that
unless they have eyes on some FS expected to be released or traded.. if not, I hope we get lucky with some FA signing when Wilson heads to IR.
Maybe they're hoping to see something out of Troy Nolan since he was on IR last season
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Apr 25, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought, Nolan played FS in college?
by typhoon.infamous on Apr 26, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought he was picked as a SS
he isn’t supposed to be a coverage guy
As far as I know, Nolan is a FS
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Apr 26, 2010 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinkin' Darren Sharper
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
by WarWolf on Apr 25, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's a smart strategy in a way
free safteties are basically corners who aren’t quick enough to cover guys on the edges. They’re usually slower, but stronger, more physical and may have better ball skills. We loaded up on corners (one of the most important positions on D)…we have 8 on the roster..some are smaller quick cover guys, some are bigger physical guys who can zone and play the run, and we have a couple who are well-rounded.
I don’t care if Smithiak is saying that they’re all corners, they are going HAVE to move 2 or 3 of those guys to safety.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
call me crazy
but I think they like D. Barber to win the FS position. After a horrid start last season (forgot he was playing football and left CJ uncovered against the tits), the coaches believed he settled down next to Pollard at safety and ended the year strong. Now i don’t necessarily believe it’s smart to rely on Barber but I’ve always hoped he could turn into a good FS for us.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
His rep coming out of school was he couldn't cover
I have no reason to believe this has changed.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
I'd rather
we grab someone in a trade for one of our TEs, either OD or Dreesen.
How about Hill & Dreesen to the Rams for Atogwe
They need TEs & we need to dump a few
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Apr 26, 2010 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Bish
Call me an optimist, but I’m fairly happy all told. Our offensive line is already better then last year with the return of Briesel and the pickup of Smith, and I still believe in the cockles of my heart Pitts will be back, and hopefully will be able to contribute somehow. Yes I want more talent there, I always want more talent on the line, but our line was good enough for us to be a top offense last year as it was.
We also added weapons to our offense, Dickerson will help the passing game, and Graham will possibly also help the running game. Holliday allows JJ to focus on receiver full time while still giving us a dynamic return team.
Kareem Jackson makes our defense better almost immediately in obvious ways. I’ll trust Smithiak to make the right choice for our team when it comes to which CB was the right one to pick. Sharpton adds what sounds like some much needed depth at LB. When I found out Diles was the backup for Meco it all made sense, and I still hope he might provide an upgrade at WLB. McManus – You can never have too many CBs I think, and this could pave the way to FS depth by moving him or Quinn to FS later. I would have loved a FS, but I still like EW, and Barber as his backup. We just need another guy past that, who might still come from one of our CBs.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
by nolander on Apr 25, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would much rather they stockpile CBs than TEs
but I don’t think that will ever happen. I like Wilson as well and think Quin would be a great FS, so it kind of works out that Quin stays at corner while Wilson is not injured and we may see the transition later.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
The TE move makes sense
when you know that 3 TEs (of 4) are currently coming off of off-season surgery.
Gaines (or whatever his name is) may be nothing but a camp body. Graham will probably beat out Hill for his roster spot.
Dickerson, as we all know, is a WR now.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I agree
I have nothing against the moves we made in the draft other than not addressing the O-line more. I was more stating that if we had to take a player at one position each year, I would prefer CB. I just hope that we trade a TE or two instead of cutting them because I cannot see us taking 5 TEs on the final roster.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
They believe Graham is a good blocker as well
so yeah Hill is probably gone.
OD, Dreesen, Casey, and Graham is deep at TE.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 26, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions
We took the same number of corners this year as we did last year
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
The statement above is truth
However, what I meant to say is we have taken the same number of corners as we have TEs in the last two drafts.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Good point
The only thing I can say about that is that we should be carrying about 5 corners on the final roster whereas we should not be carrying more than 4 TEs.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Even as someone who didn't really care to get a RB
I’m definitely starting to mancrush on Tate. Seems like a genuinely awesome dude with some major talent.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Can you really blame him?
I know I can’t. lol.
I already bought those season tickets.
But I wouldn’t mind getting him to come out and tailgate with me after we whip that Titan ass this year…
I can see it now
Mike and Ben sitting together as the sun sets…BBQ and beer…hoping Pollard doesn’t see. Haha.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Apr 25, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you best hope Bone Crusher don't find out about that
he may just deliver a bodyslam …..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJKdpsZi_10&feature=related
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
It may probably be wasted on you 2...
You’d be too busy staring into each other’s eyes to notice.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Apr 25, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sooo you are saying
i can have your tickets from Ben Tate? cuz i could use them.
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
It's already been BROUGHT.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it was a great draft
Kareem I had as a first rounder – preferred Wilson but I hope to be proven wrong
Tate was who I wanted in the second – the right player for a position of need
Garrett Graham will be a big contributor imo
Trinton is just gold – he will make Texans special teams a positive
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I like this draft
And as one of the few, I like the Earl Mitchell pick.. i’ve talked about him before the draft and been quite high on him, so im glad he’s coming to Houston.. Think he will bring some quickness that our interior d-line only gets when Bulman gets mad!
Kareem Jackson was the cornerback that was the most pro ready and could get in and help right away.. that’s why he got picked.. maybe Kyle Wilson would have to be coached up too much to be a factor in game 1 against the Colts.. and we can’t have that. I like the K. Jackson pick..
Ben Tate is a beast.. i love that he just waves off Eric Berry.. that says a lot. Many will be surprised how much better we will be with an actual running game..
Trendon Holliday… can’t wait to see that guy on the field.. either to make electric return TDs or get blown off the field because he’s so tiny!! – but i love it in the 6th!
Dorin Dickerson is the x-factor in this draft.. what will he be? what can he do? I think he will be a very good player in our offence.. somehow he will get a missmatch with all the other firepower in our offence.. think he will benefit from that.
rest of the picks i think is depth.. maybe with Graham as a wildcard.
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
by zala on Apr 25, 2010 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
good point
Kubes can’t afford another slow start and we play Peyton Manning week one. I do think the fact that Kareem is more NFL ready than the others played big in their decision. But that aside, I still like the Jackson pick because he’s young (22), has good skill and he’s been coached up by one of the best already. He’s got room to grow in a good defense (ours) and if we all liked Dunta before his injury, I think Jackson is an upgrade on pre-fag Dunta.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think people would be quite as down on Mitchell
If
A) He weren’t basically an Okoye replacement, when many people think he deserves more chances based on his age
B) He weren’t a third round pick that was projected much lower in the draft
and
C) No NT was added.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
(Nodding Head)
And I remain down on the pick.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
If Mitchell can put on another 20-30 Lbs, I'd be much happier with the pick
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Apr 26, 2010 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions
You and me both.
I’m a fan of the Earl Mitchell pick. People need to ease up off him. I’m impressed by his stats, impressed by his speed, and impressed by his interview. The most important thing for a DT is desire. This kid seems like he’s gonna give it all he has, and he’s explosive with good lower body strength. He’s also new to the position, so he’ll keep developing.
Everyone is obsessed with getting any old fat ass for a nose tackle. First of all, there aren’t that many of them that are effective, and of those, there are even fewer that have the motor, especially in this draft. On top of that, the really big ones tend to be valued more by 3-4 teams anyway. It’s just not really what the Texans need. They did well picking Mitchell.
by Kenny Larrey on Apr 26, 2010 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW.
McClain_on_NFL
Texans are checking out Alan Faneca, who was dumped by the Jets.
McClain_on_NFL
Faneca, 33, went to high school outside Houston at Lamar Consolidated. He resides in Thibodaux, La. Texans would make sense.
McClain_on_NFL
Cause the Jets still owe Faneca $5.25 million, money shouldn’t be an issue. He can pick where he wants to play and sign for the vet minimum.
Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!
This...is..AMAZING
Please Rick…get Faneca. He’s old yes, but he’s an OLine leader, he’s a seasoned veteran, and he’s as PHYSICAL as anyone at the C position.
PLEASE.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
We could still use him..
Even as a G. I mean, I’d take him. Give Slate & Tate (God I hate this name, I demand an all out BRB think tank on the new nickname(s)) someone to run behind right out of the box who will NOT be pushed around.
yeah well bottom line is
he was an interior lineman on the best run blocking line in the league last year. We could REALLY use the guy for the vet minimum
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
We can use him because...
Pancakes says our starting Left Guard is: Kasey effin’ Studdard.
I need a drink.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Ouch
Anything but Studdard. But if they do sign Faneca, it would mean that wouldn’t sign Pitts, right? I wouldn’t mind the pickup because then that means they did not think Pitts would be ready by week 1.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Faneca and Pitts at RG and LG?
Wade Smith or Caldwell at C?
Rashad Butler at swing tackle?
Kasey Studdard, Chris White and ragdoll riding the pine?
sign me up.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think the FO will sign both Pitts and Faneca
but I would not be opposed to it. However, then you run into the problem of what to do with Caldwell and Smith since I would love to see Caldwell at OC (he can handle a big NT!) but Smith has the kind of contract to where he should be starting. But it is an uncapped year so whatever they can do to convince McNair as long as the O-line gets fixed.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
They were interested
but after drafting Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati in round 1, there’s not really a spot for him.
Detroit was another rumored location but they added Rob Sims.
Seattle signed 2 OGs in the offseason and added Jeff Byers after the draft. No room there.
Cincy never showed interest.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I dunno where your post on Sherrick McManis went, but I'll post this here
I know Sherrick personally. I go to school with him. I saw him at a bar called “The Keg (of Evanston)” last weekend. He’s a nice guy, smart kid.
Having watched him play football for 4 years, I can tell you that he’s got a nose for the big play, even if he doesn’t always make it. He’ll occasionally get burned and make a mistake in the return game. But all in all, he’s a pretty damn solid playmaker.
As a side note, I played a pickup game with him freshman year. He was a friend of a mutual friend. I got matched up with him one play at WR and beat him on an out route. Given, this was our freshman year when I was still remotely talented and quick. And he probably wasn’t trying all that hard… but I can now say for the rest of my life that, at one point, I could beat a NFL cornerback on an out pattern!
by jsl413 on Apr 25, 2010 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
by "saw him"
I mean that’s the last time I saw him… he came to all of my team’s intramural football games. I don’t think he was drinking and I’ve never heard of him doing anything that makes him a character risk.
this does not strike me as a ringing endorsement for Mcmanis
unless you’re secretly Brandon Marshall
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said - it was 4 years ago
he was pretty much fresh out of HS Football, as was I. It was only one play, and I don’t think he was going 100%. It also wasn’t full contact – he was in my hip pocket, but I caught the ball.
Since then, I’ve endured 8 ankle sprains and lost a couple steps.
Love it
A lot of us have stories like this (even me!). And they are fun.
Thanks for the post. Very much appreciated.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Once took Andy Pettitte yard.
But yeah, I get it. You didn’t ask. Time to move along.
"380 pounds of pure pirogi" ~ Cush
I'm the most intrigued by Sharpton.
I read this morning that he is the nephew of none other than the Rev. Al Sharpton. If there is ever a contract dispute we could have the NAACP and the Rainbow Coalition heading to Houston to rain hell down upon Smithiak. That could be a three ring circus worth watching.
by TexanSchmackDown on Apr 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
Does that also mean
that he’ll be our insurance against Goodell’s random suspensions?
Trindon Holliday
is my most intriguing pick. 4.2 speed and yes he’s a track star but if you look at his film, he’s extremely shifty and changes direction with ease. As a return man, he’s golden already since this is what he excelled at in college but I like to think we can run some 2 back sets with this guy and get him the ball in space..i.e screens.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions
What about injuries?
The guy is tiny. I’m all for a lighting return man. I just don’t know how his body will hold up at the pro level. Anyone know about his play at LSU? I heard something about him being a RB.
by TexanSchmackDown on Apr 25, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that's why I don't expect him to play much
Returns and the VERY occasional offensive snap at best…he’ll be alright.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He survived the SEC.
I’m not worried.
Plus, he can’t get hurt if they can’t catch him.
/4.2speedwhoosh!
"Lord, beer me strength."
10 flat - 100.
Cause like, that’s how far he’ll run on kickoff returns.
"380 pounds of pure pirogi" ~ Cush
That's 10 Flat for 100 Meters, not 100 Yards
So that means he should run 100 yards in less than 10 seconds
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Apr 26, 2010 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for proper use of Metric System
Damn commie lol
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
I hope so.
If he lives up to expectations he could add a dynamic that the Texans haven’t had. All of those games lost by 7 or less could be changed by one TD return.
by TexanSchmackDown on Apr 25, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
If nobody wants to head the Sharpton fanclub, I'll take that job
The more I read about him, the more I like him, especially if the Texans try to give him reps at WLB, which given his size makes the most sense to me. I think the guy has the chance to beat out Diles and Adibi, and that can only be good.
Tight end jokes aside, I think this was a pretty solid draft. It would’ve been nice to have drafted a fatter NT and/or safety, but I think the Texans came out looking pretty good, especially if we can add more O-line depth with UFDAs.
yeah at some point
we must all succumb to the fact that the Texans just don’t value size in the trenches..and they’ll never get that fat NT we’ve all wanted forever.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 25, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
And that's the thing though
it doesn’t necessarily have to be a fat NT. I just want someone like the Eagles “NT” Bunkley who is 6’2", 306 lbs. But he is incredibly strong (as shown by 44 bench at the Combine), great against the run, strong at the point of attack, and takes on double teams. That is exactly what the Texans need.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I still have a dream...
that we’ll someday have a DT who’s first step involves wiping lasagna off his face while hitting the center over the head with a turkey leg.
by TexanSchmackDown on Apr 25, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You're in line behind MDC
Just wait for BRB radio tomorrow.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
for shelley?
i am sorry until we come up with a good effin nickname i will continue to laugh at his name.
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
How about Dr. Frankenstein?
When I first heard Shelley, i immediately remembered the book Frankenstein because it’s written by Mary Shelley.
What a crappy name to grow up with though, Shelley.
by typhoon.infamous on Apr 26, 2010 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I was talking about Sharpton
but as long as we are on Shelley we have a whole lot of options from either Mary or Percy Shelley. There’s always Ozymandias or Prometheus Unbound if you think Frankenstein is too obvious.
Plus Percy Shelley drowned so if the Texans Shelley ends up sucking there’s a whole world of mockery there. Plus (in my opinion, which counts for a lot obviously) the whole Romantic movement is fertile ground for mockery anyway.
I like Ozymandias
Since we’re going out there a little, it’s also the name of one of the characters in Watchmen.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2010 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like an ideal offensive lineman to me
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
by cubic on Apr 26, 2010 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
I think this part applies to our o-line:
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck,
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2010 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
So what do you think are the chances of OD being a Texan next year?
With all of the TE pickups I wonder if he’s going to be even 80% this year and that Smithiak knows something we don’t. In which case I think they might try to deal him to a team willing to pay high to take a chance on him. I would love to have him as a Texan, but if he’s not going to get back up to caliber then I think we need to get as much out of the deal as possible.
by TexanSchmackDown on Apr 25, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions
I think there is a good chance
Dreessen began to fill his role pretty well by the end of the season that coaches may be comfortable as Dressen as the #1 with the others developing behind him. While I like OD, if we can get someone to trade us a first round pick for him, we would have to take that.
by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 25, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not so optimistic.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
comfortable with all the picks
1. I think all the draft talent evaluators fall into one of two camps. The first is those fed info by NFL, including disinformation and erroneous info. The second group are those who copy them. So when some guy onthe internet says some player has talent that belongs in a particular round, there is a good chance he is giving you biased or incorrect information.
2. Speed kills. The Texas got faster. That’s why I like the pick at DT. I think the intent is to keep the opposing QB from stepping up in the pocket, which will create sack opportunities for the DEs.
3. There is no point in drafting a guy who does not make you better. That R4 guard may not even make this team. Consequently I think the Texas favored upside over need.
by kozanack on Apr 25, 2010 8:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Blount ditches 49ers, opts to sign with Titans
I like it
I don’t like Blount, don’t like Tennessee….I can boo it all together.
LenWhale got replaced with a similar RB who can sit on the sideline.
"Lord, beer me strength."
So now he's competing against Javon Ringer & Stafon Johnson for the #2 spot on the depth chart, huh?
Kinda wish both him & Stafon went somewhere else
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Apr 26, 2010 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I heard Kubiak on 610 tonight with Barry and what's his name...
Kubiak said that when Holliday is on the field returning punts or kick-offs, he guarantees that none of the players on the sideline are going to be taking time to sit down and have a drink of water or gatorade. They’ll be on their feet watching!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I just love this pick analysis by NFL.com.
Pick Analysis: Dickerson is an undersized H-back with explosive skills. He caught 49 passes for Pittsburgh last season, 10 of which went for TDs. It is hard to understand why he fell all the way to the seventh round. He’s an athletic mismatch, and the Texans got a steal.
Schlauton
Damn straight. Looks like a helluva OL to me.
"380 pounds of pure pirogi" ~ Cush
by LoneSpot on Apr 26, 2010 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that CBS scouting report
could be for all our O lineman. Good zone-blocker, fast, average against the run, plays hard.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 26, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Another Draft grade by John Czarnecki of FOX Sports
Houston: The Texans shocked most scouts by taking Alabama CB Kareem Jackson over Kyle Wilson, but they believe Jackson is more versatile and can play press and also fill the nickel role. Auburn RB Ben Tate (5-11, 220 pounds) is a powerful back with no durability issues, plus he ran 4.34 and had a spectacular workout at the Combine. They took a high motor defensive lineman in Earl Mitchell of Arizona who lacks size and may be a situational defender. Wisconsin TE Garrett Graham is solid insurance, considering Owen Daniels’ injury history. Miami (Fla.) LB Darryl Sharpton is an instinctive player and he should help on special teams right away and could force his way into the lineup. They added another tight end in Pitt’s Dorin Dickerson, who caught 10 touchdowns last season. Dickerson was ranked as a top-100 player, but he fell to the 227th pick for some reason. Maybe it’s because he’s not a good blocker and more of a receiver than a tight end? Grade: C
Texans Draft Special on ABC 13
in about 30 minutes (10:35 CT) with Bob Allen and Spencer Tillman. Just an FYI…
I love the footage Tillman broke down of Jackson.
Selling me more and more.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Definitely lame, but I didn't expect anything special.
The Jackson film was pretty good though. He’s got great recovery speed and the tackle on Tate was impressive because he showed great technique on it (wrapped up the power runner’s legs as opposed to pulling an Eric Berry and going for the big hit up high).
"Lord, beer me strength."
Oh you've shown that video...think its in that clip video
Berry goes down, Tate stays up with his balance because Berry went up high and tried to do the highlight tackle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tK-ttHGJRU
For those who want to see the power of our new back.
"Lord, beer me strength."
A friend told me I was on it
In the reaction shots at the draft party
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I was way more disappointed in the moment.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 25, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Naw there was a lot of befuddled sounds
It wasn’t JUST me.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on Apr 26, 2010 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I figured
They were just showing the positive reactions. Probably piped in their own positive cheers. I’d like to go next year.
No grade, but analysis by Yahoo Sports blog "Shutdown Corner"
Houston Texans: The Texans certainly needed a cornerback after losing Dunta Robinson to the Falcons, and they got a good one in Alabama’s Kareem Jackson. Houston’s second-most pressing need – a big back that can eat up carries – was taken care of in the person of Auburn’s Ben Tate, a Combine star with surprising speed for his feature back size. This is a team with a great appreciation for athletic defensive tackles, and they got another one in the third round with Earl Mitchell, who’s run sub-4,8 40 times. Their last two picks may be the most interesting – 5-foot-5 waterbug Trindon Holliday is a punt return burner, and tight end Dorin Dickerson from Pitt fits Houston’s concept of hybrid tight ends doing more catching than blocking
"Lord, beer me strength."
HA
Waterbug, I like that.
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Apr 25, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
the Earl Mitchell pick is growing on me
He played good competition in the Pac-10 and he had a really good game against a top offensive line at USC.
He flashes some great capability in that clip. Kid has a constant motor. I think he’ll make an impact in pass-rushing and stopping the run. Him and Okoye could be a formidable duo in the middle by quickly shooting the gaps and squeezing the pocket while Mario, Smith, Barwin and our LBs get to the QB.
by leacheatsbabies on Apr 26, 2010 12:54 AM CDT reply actions
Don't think we'll show any interest, but:
Jaguars cut John Henderson, three others: Team also cut Iwuh, Stanley and Daniels http://bit.ly/aWWkzo
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