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Navel Gazing: One Blogger's Draft Utopia

With few exceptions, it seems like most pundits, bloggers, and blog commenters discuss draft choices in a vacuum.  Rarely -- only TexansDC comes to mind among BRB Nation -- do you see someone proffer a complete draft that accounts for value v. need, relative scarcity, importance of a position in general, etc. 

This is due in part to the fact that you don't "know" who is going to be available when your team picks, especially in later rounds.  Still, I think you can gather enough information so that you have a general idea of where a player might be taken.  For example, I can say with pretty fair confidence that Tony Pike will not go before the very, very late second round and could fall as far as the mid-fourth round.  So, if I wanted to do a complete draft, I should probably consider Pike a third-round option if my team was picking at, say, 20.

With that in mind, I have compiled my "perfect" draft.  (I use the quotation marks ironically both because of the uncertainty of the draft in general and of draftees actually being good NFL players in particular.)

Star-divide

Before we get to the picks, a caveat:  My draft is perfect only in the sense that it best matches the Texans' needs as well as satisfying the various rules, assumptions, and guesses I am operating under.  These include:

  • Corner is no more of an issue now that Dunta was gone than it was last year with Dunta here.  Which is to say that all of the McShays and Kipers who crow about how the Texans "have" to fill the void left by Dunta and adjusted their boards accordingly are fools.
  • Corner still needs to be addressed, but not because Dunta is gone.  In terms of success on the field, the Big 4 positions in the modern NFL are QB, OT, DE (in the 4-3), and CB.  Of those, only CB is considered an issue for us right now.
  • Duane Brown is not great, he could be upgraded, but the front office is absolutely not going to do it right now.  So I am not drafting an OT in this draft.
  • The importance of running back depends on if you think Slaton is healthy and what weight you give Foster's late-season performance.  Unlike Kerns, I don't think Slaton is done, and I liked what I saw from the resident pterodactyl, so I'm not taking a running back on Thursday or Friday.
  • Nose tackle.  Still an issue.
  • Zac Diles might be the most cost-effective member of The Greatest Defense In Texans History, but that doesn't mean he's good.  It does mean he's good enough to wait until Saturday to address the issue.
  • Frank Bush enjoys ineffective zone coverage like Aggies enjoy animal husbandry.  We should probably draft guys who can fit that scheme over guys whose talents would be wasted in the same.
  • It is never "reaching" for a player if, in your informed opinion, he won't be on the board when you get to choose again.
  • The biggest holes do not have to be addressed first.  Stated differently--don't sacrifice value just for the sake of filling a need.  This is kind of the counter-point to the last rule.  It might not be a reach to take Reshad Jones at 51, but that doesn't mean that you are getting good value for your pick there.
  • When in doubt, opt for flexibility.  All things being equal, take the guy who could contribute in more than one way over the guy who can't.
  • Similarly, when in doubt, take the mutant.  Just my own personal bias in favor of players with better measurables when comparing similar bodies of work.
  • Consider weightspeed.  A no-brainer, really.
  • No assuming that a guy is going to fall past where he projects in most mock drafts.  If a guy projects as a second-round pick, I have to take him in the second or not take him at all. 

The Picks

Rd. 1 (20): Earl Thomas, CB/FS, Univ. of Texas.  I know, following Thomas's 40 time at UT's pro day, a LOT of BRBers now assume that Thomas won't be around when we draft, but I disagree.  For one thing, apparently every player who ran at that pro day was 0.1 second faster (or more) than at the Combine, thus giving a little perspective to Earl's improvement.  Second, most teams have him slotted as a safety, and only eight safeties since 2000 have been taken prior to pick #20 (14 first-round safeties overall in that time period, with six seasons where one or fewer were taken in that round).  Even for teams that have him slotted as a cornerback, Haden looks like he will slide to San Francisco at 13, and the Thomas-Kyle Wilson-Devin McCourty grouping is similar enough that any of them could go as the second CB (possibly to Pittsburgh).  Third, Taylor Mays apparently looked good at USC's pro day and San Fran (who also picks at 17) is kind of high on him, so that could bump Thomas down to us as well.  Point being, I think there's a decent shot (say 60-40 in favor) that he will be there when we draft. 

Why Thomas?  I actually prefer the idea of Earl as a corner, at least while Eugene Wilson is healthy, simply because of his fantastic ball skills being an asset in the Bush Zone.  That said, the fact that he could also be a very good free safety ties into the flexibility idea I mentioned.  Finally, it's about value.  There is no chance Dan Williams falls to 20 (I can't see a realistic scenario where Miami doesn't take him), and only a very small chance that Mike Iupati could fall.  Even if Iupati did, I would still prefer Thomas, as this is a fairly deep draft for offensive guards and I see no reason to pay first-round money for one.

Also Considered:  Sean Weatherspoon, Devin McCourty

Rd. 2 (51): Akwasi Owusuh-Ansah, CB, Indiana Univ. of Pennsylvania.  Huh?  Another CB?  Yep.  I was tempted to go DT here with Cam Thomas or Terrence Cody, but I see good value at that position in rounds 3 or 4.  I don't consider RB such a need that we should spend our second round pick on one, and Jon Asomoah's injury concerns me enough to scratch him off the list. 

Why Owusuh-Ansah?  Because it's very fun to say "Owusuh-Ansah," and because the kid has great measurables (6-0/207, 4.32, 21 reps).  He is also a very talented return man, which would be nice if Jakespeare is going to have a bigger role in the passing game this year.  Also, if Earl winds up playing CB, O-A seems to have the ability to transition to free safety.  So we are back to the idea of important position, filling a need value, and flexibility.

Also Considered: Cam Thomas, Terrence Cody, Jon Asomoah, Ben Tate, Montarrio Hardesty

Rd. 3 (81): Mitch Petrus, OG, Univ. of Arkansas.  The interior offensive line is a concern of everyone here, and rightfully so.  Cam Thomas would be a possibility here if he were to fall (I've seen him in mocks everywhere from mid-second to late fourth), but I am going to assume he doesn't.  I think Petrus is the better choice anyway.

Why Petrus?  Of all the players outside the first round of this draft, Petrus might be the one I am highest on.  He is a very, very athletic guard (converted from a fullback/tight-end to guard) who has ridiculous strength (45 reps).  His 6-3/310 frame gives him nice leverage against taller defensive tackles, too.  I watched him play more times than I cared to (due to Razorback games being foisted upon me quite frequently) and was always impressed with what I saw.  OG is still fairly deep into the fourth round of this draft, but I see that round as the last shot to get the nose tackle we need, so I am pulling the trigger on Petrus here rather than trying to snag Marshall Newhouse a little later.

Also Considered:  Joe McKnight, Novorro Bowman

Rd. 4 (118): Linval Joseph, NT, East Carolina.  After Joseph, the next big-bodied nose tackle is Travis Ivey, but Ivey is 341 and almost certainly bound to play in a 3-4.  He's also not near as good as Joseph.  Running back is an option here, with someone like James Starks, as is linebacker Dekoda Watson.  Unfortunately, taking either of those guys would mean another year without a true 1-technique tackle.

Why Joseph?  Because we've never had a real NT, despite the obvious fact that having one would make Mario and Amobi better, which in turn would make the secondary better.  It would also keep blockers from reaching the second level as easily, freeing up DeMeco or Cushing even more.  I like Joseph quite a bit -- he has good speed (relatively speaking), very good strength, and a nose for disrupting plays in the backfield (29.5 TFL, 6.5 sacks in 41 career games).

Also Considered:  James Starks, Dekoda Watson, Anthony Dixon

Rd. 5 (150): Kavell Conner, WLB, Clemson.  My distaste for the Zac Diles-flavored Kool-aid is well documented around here.  I won't rehash it except to say that it makes no sense not to upgrade the position when you can do so in a cost-effective manner, such as with a fifth-round pick.

Why Conner?  While Conner's teammate Ricky Sapp gets more publicity among the Tigers' linebackers, Conner actually led the team in tackles (111).  He is a sure tackler with a good nose for the ball, is a fantastic run defender, and he has good speed for a WLB (4.5).  He struggles a bit in pass coverage, mainly when forced to turn his hips and run with a TE, but that is less of an issue with Ryans/Cushing as the nickel package LBs for the foreseeable future.  Conner is an explosive hitter, but is smart enough about it that he did not miss a single game in his college career.

Also Considered: Ted Larsen, Lonyae Miller, Earl Mitchell

Rd. 6 (187): Chris Brown, RB, Univ. of Oklahoma.  A Landthief AND a Chris Brown?  The irony of picking him is too good to be for real.

Why Brown?  If you get past the name and the alma mater, Brown is quietly a very good running back.  He averaged 5.7/carry on 214 carries and scored 20 TDs (3rd best single-season TD total for OU RBs) last season, and he has the vision and cutting ability that make him a good fit for Houston's scheme.  He's not much of a pass blocker, but he has good hands out of the backfield and he has the speed and quickness to make people miss in space.  At 5-11/210, he's not huge, but he is comparable in size to Ben Tate at a fraction of the cost. (Yes, I realize that Tate is faster.)

Also Considered:  Robert Johnson, James Ruffin, Joe Hawley

Rd. 6 (197): Kevin Matthews, C, Texas A&M.  Every time someone suggest Maurkice Pouncey in the first, I die a little inside.  This is because I almost always hate the idea of drafting a center any earlier than you absolutely have to, unless he is literally the only piece you were missing, as centers are simply not that valuable/important.  They get help on almost every play, are asked to pull the least, and face the least athletic defensive linemen. They also are the least likely to have to go to the second level and block a LB/S because they are generally covered (i.e., someone lined up head up).  At the same time, I think we can all agree that Chris Myers isn't exactly our first choice to be snapping the ball.  Taking Matthews here seems to strike a good balance between finding someone new and not overpaying for the position.

Why Matthews?  A two-year starter in College Station, Matthews is a solid player with good strength/quickness for his position.  More importantly, to get a player with Matthews' upside in the sixth is a great bargain even for a position like center; Matthews is the son of Bruce, nephew of Clay Sr., and cousin of Clay, Jr.  I'd say the bloodlines are strong.  Plus, he's an Aggie, which will make Kubiak and beefy happy.

Also Considered: Brandon Carter, Donovan Warren, Danario Alexander

Rd. 7 (227): Nick Howell, OG, Univ. of Southern California.  Rather than take another Kubiak pet project QB with our Mr. Irrelevant pick, I opted to go with another bite at the "improving the interior O-line" apple. 

Why Howell?  Teammate Alex Parsons is rated slightly higher and would probably be available here, but I prefer Howell because he's a little lighter than Parsons and has better speed/quickness.  He also showed better in the 225 reps than Parsons (38 to 25), the vertical jump, the broad jump, the 3-cone drill, and the shuttle drill.  The two players 20- and 10-yard times were nearly identical.  So, at this point, I am going with the better measurables to choose between two guys who would both be good fits in our scheme.

Also Considered: Adam Ulatoski, Nate Byham, Javarris James

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So, there you have it.  We wind up with two CBs (or one and a FS), a new WLB, a NT, two OGs, a RB, and a C, and we get all of them at good value.  In case you are wondering how this would change if Thomas is not available, I would actually go with McCourty at 20 and Morgan Burnett at 51.

Feel free to post your own in the comments or merely to make derisive comments about mine.

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Now that that's out of the way

I like Thomas in the first round, but I think that C is a more important position that it’s given credit for, much like LT used to be. Because of that, I’d much rather take a C in the second round than a second CB/FS hybrid.

I also think that for a NT to actually get playing time for the Texans, he’ll have to be a big time player, the kind that shows up big time in big games. Everything I’ve seen in the past about/from Kollar has suggested that he would prefer to have 2 UT’s playing on his defensive line as opposed to 1 NT and 1 UT. I saw one second or third hand quote about Kollar and the rest of the coaching staff looking for a NT to pair up with Okoye and Cody, but I don’t think they’re willing to just put any player with good assmass out there. So, in order for a true NT to get playing time, I feel like they’re going to have to be good.

I don’t know enough about the later round NT’s like Joseph to know what the knock on them is, but there must be a reason they’re projected to the fourth round other than they have great assmass.

If we get the opportunity to draft Earl Thomas, I’d be all for that. If we do though, I’d rather see a NT drafted in the second round than a C, and I’d rather see either one of those positions than a second CB/FS.

In round three, I’d be ok with Petrus if it meant that Caldwell would be moving to C to take over for Ragdoll.

I’d like to see a RB drafted at some point, because I don’t think Stevie Wonder will be back to his old self any time soon, but I did like what I saw from Foster and Moats, and think that they can be a middle of the pack duo until either Slaton gets healthy or a late round draft pick or undrafted free agent pans out.

by Tailgate Andy on Apr 6, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Re: Caldwell

I almost didn’t take a C at all because I wish they would do that with Caldwell, but I figured Matthews was a good enough player that he can probably provide depth at C and G.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree on C. Sure, there are the great ones like Mangold who stand out and can do stuff others can’t, but in general I think that they are not that big of a deal compared to the rest of the line, QB, RB, etc.

As for the UT/NT thing, I saw the same quote. After I stopped banging my face against the wall, I went looking for a NT to fit the bill. Joseph’s knock is the same as Cody’s, in that neither is seen as a three-down player. However, while Cody is seen as also being slow and blubbery, Joseph has 5.1 speed and is very agile for a fat ass.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

2nd round centers....

A lot of the centers have a 3rd grade round or worse. It’s not that they’re bad, but that’s just because there are a lot of talented skill position players that are offering more value compared to an interior lineman.

Honestly, if it weren’t for Maurkice Pouncey’s versatility (able to play LG, C, RG, and RT) then he would probably stay in the 2nd round as he was initially graded.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

JD Walton is now considered a high third round pick, and he’s the second best center so you basically skip the second round for the center position. Eric Olsen would be another good one (4th round grade I think?), but I like what MDC is basically saying. If the guard prospect is better than the center in that round, take the guard and move Caldwell back to center.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 6, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if the center depth chart doesn't really start til round 3...you know you can get good value in round 5 and 6.

Honestly, Matthews is round 6 is a good center prospect. If not him, USC’s Jeff Byers is another good candidate.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously...

Can we make this stop? It’s really not funny.

by DisplacedTexan on Apr 6, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Fuck DisplacedTexan

Nah really, he’s right. This is a little childish.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Apr 6, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd fuck him

He’s HAWT!

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Apr 6, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pfft.

You’d fuck anything with armpit hair BFD.

by Jordann on Apr 6, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that a dig at Austin?

Because, if so, it’s even better.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn y'all

I have no retort to your witty remarks.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Apr 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's no less funny than...

all the “draft a TE” comments we’ve had to endure for .9 years.
I’m pretty sure those are the worst.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Apr 6, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why

Would you bring back the Chris Brown curse. No more people named Kris/Chris Brown!!!

You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB

by Texans-Brocos on Apr 6, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Chris. Effing. Brown.

I actually like the pick. I doubt that he’s going to be around as late as you have him slotted, but I’d be happy to see him here.

As an Aggie who’s married to a Sooner chick(yeah, really. Dammit.) who happens to love college football, not only have I been embarassed every season, I’ve had to watch a lot more OU football that I’d happy to admit.

The guy is solid. Very solid.

I just don’t see him lasting until the 6th. Is that really the grade on him?

by Autra on Apr 6, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

an Aggie, a Sooner, & a goat walk into a bar...

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Apr 7, 2010 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

im a sooner.... duh

dating a girl from UT and ATM. maybe ill move to utah and marry them both

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Apr 7, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Props to you allen

but they are probably trying to Eff the land thief out of you


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Apr 8, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Apr 8, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I totally should’ve waited till I’d been here at least a month before bringing that point up.

Ugh, now it’s gonna be an even LONGER offseason.

by Autra on Apr 7, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't give up on Dan Williams too fast now...

Miami is more interested in Thomas than they have been. Given that McClain may not be there, Thomas looks like a likely pick. There’s also solid rumor that Dallas is willing to trade up to Miami’s spot to take Earl Thomas (after the Hamlin release). The cards are really looking like there will be a shot at Williams at 20. That’s not to get anyone’s hopes up, but there’s a chance that Miami passes on him for Thomas or even a OLB (because, as you correctly get…pass-rusher is a big deal in today’s NFL).

I like the mock. There’s a lot of sound logic behind the picks, but, more importantly, the names and the rounds mesh up nicely. There’s an address of all the important positions of need, there’s great value, and that’s not even including adding some unsigned rookies here or there.

The Matthews (with 2 Ts) pick is very nice. Given how talented that family is…and how all of their work ethics are great….it’s a huge upside pick.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Also...that's definitely a big key in finding DBs.

We do need guys who thrive in the Bush Zone.

And that doesn’t mean Antonio Cromartie.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gracias

I might be wrong on Williams, but he just strikes me as one of the faster movers (upward) in this draft and I can’t help but think that a 3-4 team is going to take the best NT available long before we pick.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Williams being there for the Texans

I’d put the odds at like 20:1.

Even then, would we pick him? Probably not. We are the Texans.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Apr 6, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kerns... you're logged in as rivers again.

fix it.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Apr 6, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's pretty much a toss up

Whoever Miami does not pick will probably be our choice (Williams or Thomas).

To go along with that, I’ve seen that Brian Price has been dropping because of his bad pro day. I’m not too high on him, but if he’s available in the second round, is he worth the pick?

by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 6, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like him

Not at that cost, and not when the knock on him after his pro day was that he looked out of shape and his hands and feet seemed slow. If we are looking for UT depth, I’d rather take Oghobaase in the 6-7.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's possible...

Buffalo (highest I’ve seen Williams go) – It now seems that a QB could drop. If not then a LT will.

Denver – They signed Jamal Williams to a 3 year deal. I think a NT has dropped significantly on their shopping list. Jay Ross in round 5 or 6 makes more sense to rotate with Williams.

Miami – They have a hole there, but they also covet Rolando McClain. Losing Porter, they also have a hole at 3-4 OLB. Parcells has a history of loving LBs so it’s possible they trade for McClain or grab Brandon Graham. They also released Gibril Wilson so they could grab Earl Thomas or trade back with Dallas.

San Francisco – Franchised Aubrayo Franklin and are working on a contract extension with him.

Pittsburgh – Franchised Hampton, but the talk is that they want to improve the NFL’s worst interior line (PFF has their C and RG as the absolute worst in the league). A lot of people are beginning to match Pouncey and Iupati with Pittsburgh and it makes a lot of sense for them to shore up an offensive line to A) protect their QB and B) fix their stagnant running game.

With Cody and Thomas in round 2…and Torrell Troup right after….entrely possible for teams to take a chance on grabbing NT later. That said, I think the 20:1 odds from Rivers is fair….

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well thought out.

The only pick I would question is Owush-Ansah considering who else you thought might available. I’d take an NT everyday over an Ivy League corner.

In my opinion, it’s simply a greater need, especially if we shore up the secondary in the first round and move Earl to corner. I think some corners (Patrick Robinson, Chris Cook, Jerome Murphy) might fall to the third and be better value there than Akwasi in the second. That said, this is not a draft I think many of us would complain about (we’d be in Earl Thomas induced ecstasy), and it is mercifully free of TEs. I particularly like the later round picks.

by JimboTexan on Apr 6, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

The main thing in the second

was that I can’t say for sure that Cam Thomas or T. Cody will be a better pro than Linval Joseph, so Joseph seemed like a much better bargain. Daryl Washington would be nice, but not for a second-round cost. Combine all of that with O-A’s return skills and the CB/FS versatility to cover whichever Earl doesn’t and it seemed like a good pick.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's also no guarantee that Thomas or Cody will be there at 51

I would assume that San Diego, Denver, and/or Kansas City grab both of them before we draft at 51.

Miami’s also possible to grab one…but I think they’ll grab their WR there given the value.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

You’ll probably see more offensive players falling than nose tackles. I’m predicting a big run on them, which is why I also believe you have to take one in the first two rounds if you’re going to take them at all.

I love mock draft sites, but historically they aren’t so good at doing anything beyond need + good player = pick. And if you have a 2nd-4th round grade on someone at a position of great need in the NFL that starts bleeding talent, you’re going to want to move on it before you get nothing, so I wouldn’t bet on Joseph getting out of the third. I pretty much mentally note to myself to bump up NT’s a round, because I don’t think MockDrafters have a terrific idea of what to do with them when they can’t say “this guy gets x sacks in the SEC, he’s great”.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Apr 6, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

As for bumping people up

I generally bumped most guys to the high end of their average range throughout. Nearly everything I’ve seen shows Joseph as a 4-6 guy.

Interesting theory on NTs. If you are correct, I would adjust and put Cam Thomas over O-A, then put Walter McFadden in the fourth. Maybe. Dunno.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting that you passed on Cody in round 2

Although I wonder if he’d be available for us at that point. Then you went for the NT in the fourth. Is there no third-round rated NT that you think would be better value than Joseph?

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 6, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Terrell Troup, I guess

But I like Joseph a lot more than Troup.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just saw on Walterfootball

that they have Joseph in the second round to the Raiders because he ran a 4.93 40 time at his pro day. Not saying that Walterfootball knows all, but it does seem likely that Joseph will shoot up boards just because of a 40 time (as sad as that is).

by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 6, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only the Raiders

would care about that kind of thing.

It’s hard to mock for the Raiders because no one knows how to think like Al Davis. Could he want the fastest guy (Jacoby Ford at 4.28 speed)? Could he want Bruce Campbells, Jason Pierre-Pauls, and Marshall Newhouses (athletic freaks)?

It’s easily where mocks go wrong – the Raiders.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

"It’s hard to mock for the Raiders because no one knows how to think like Al Davis."

Truth.

I’m fine with Joseph in the second if that’s where we have to take him to get him. The more I watch of this guy, the higher I am on him. To the point where, really, I’d be happy as a pig in shit with any of the Thomas/McCourty/Wilson triumverate if the next two picks were Joseph and Petrus.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, that makes sense

If we go CB in the first, I can see Joseph in the second as a valid choice.

Also, you make Petrus sound very enticing. I would like to see that pick.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 6, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Dude has angry retard strength. He’s like the anti-Studdard.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 7, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Awesome
Dude has angry retard strength.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Apr 7, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

HEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYY YOUUUU GUYYYYYYYYYYYYS

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 7, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

im all for the brown pick

i think the guy could excel spliting time with slaton and foster.

and he is a sooner, so WELL DONE. can we get GK McCoy too

"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"

by Allen-OU on Apr 6, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I found some lint....

In the 2nd round, you like Akwasi Owusuh-Ansah over other-heralded CBs such as Brandon Ghee of Wake Forest, Chris Cook of UVA, Dominique Franks of Oklahoma, and Patrick Robinson of Florida St. Would you care to elaborate why you went with the non-BCS guy over all those big-program guys? I may have left some off my list, but that’s enough balls to juggle. Look forward to your answer.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2010 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not MDC...

but it makes sense to me because a lot of these CBs have the same grade. It’s similar to the RB position in that a lot of them have 2-4 round grades and it’s up to a team’s discretion.

Honestly, I would take Ghee over O-A, but I won’t discredit O-A because he has great size, speed, and versatility which offers more value than Franks or Cook.

As for Robinson….personally, I’d take anyone over Patrick Robinson given the whole desire flag that has been raised on him (why he went from 1st round pick to 3rd round grade).

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair question

With Ghee I forgot to mention that I think he will be gone before we pick. If he were there, I’d probably take him over O-A.

Chris Cook tackles like crap, so he was out for our scheme. (REALLY don’t like Cook, actually).

O-A is a little bigger, a little faster, and a little better in the return game than Robinson, so (even though I generally default to the bigger program) I let that trump FSU.

As for Franks? I fully admit to resting it on little more than a gut feeling based on seeing clips of both of their pro days. Plus, I was targeting Brown later and I thought two OU players might make BRB implode.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate him

My dislike borders on irrational, but there’s something about him that embodies everything I dislike in a corner.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Everything about you borders on irrational

Sexy, but irrational.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 6, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well obviously

I’ve probably seen more of franks then anyone, considering I saw him in high school too. And I love my sooners….

Franks has all the physical tools and plays fast, but as the 52nd pick…. Might be a little high. In the third would be great

But there is a high bust factor I think with him. A little too risky for a second rounder.
He could turn out to be the 3rd or 2nd best CB in the draft and it wouldn’t surprise me. He works hard and is coachable.

But he could be Fred Bennett on the other side of it

by AllenOU on Apr 6, 2010 4:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, like I said...

it was just a gut feeling. There wasn’t anything I saw of Franks that scared me away, but there wasn’t anything that screamed “TAKE ME!” either. “High bust factor” might be a good label for the feeling he gives me, though.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with your pick of Thomas in the 1st round

My agreement is from the perspective of who I think the Texans will pick. How much did that perspective have in your picks? I guess my question is: how much did “how the Texans would pick” weigh on your picks?

This is a bit of a trick question, because I expect as soon as you read it, you might take a bit of offense because obviously, it is your mock draft and you have put your name to it. If I were making the picks I would make the picks that I feel the Texans need and not necessarily taking into consideration what I think they will do. I would like to see your elaboration on this subject, because you made the comment that you don’t think the Texans are looking to do anything with Duane Brown, so you won’t be picking that way. Looking forward to your comments.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I think every mock-drafter should have to answer this questions, as a sort of tie-breaker:

What round and what team will pick Tim Tebow?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Jacksonville

Second round

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

1st round

Buffalo trades down from the 9 and takes him.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Apr 6, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking about that and this is a good solution

The teams that need a QB are who; Washington, Cleveland, Carolina, Buffalo, St. Louis, Arizona, Minnesota, and Oakland. And, there aren’t enough QBs to go around, so something has to give, such as a team trading up to get one. Buffalo would be a great destination for Tebow. Buffalo needs a QB and they need something to sell tickets. Tebow fits the bill.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buffalo doesn't need to sell tickets...

They sell out every game. They need corporate sponsors to move in. Which Tebow’s shiney deity light could bring.

by HoustonTransplant on Apr 6, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aye

Their tickets are pretty f’ing cheap from what I understand.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 6, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, Tony Pike is the guy for Buffalo

Tebow has a chance to save an entire city in Oakland

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Apr 7, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

As someone who likes da Bills

I’m hoping they pull of a trade for Jason Campbell for a 4th.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 7, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope they get Campbell, too.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 7, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh, good lord

Oakland takes him with the 8th pick

by Cut Block on Apr 6, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, Oakland will take him in the second round

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Apr 7, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm ocming around to Earl Thomas

Not my first preference, but might be the best available. If he can cover as well as his hype says he can, I’m down with drafting him on the condition that he will do nothing but shadow Dallas Clark the next time we play the colts. Wilson is just injured so damn much. I would prefer depth, but if the Texans think ET is special enough to take in the first I’ll trust them.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 6, 2010 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

He can shadow Clark...

but Clark would bully him around, IMHO. Clark has him by 5 inches and 60 pounds.

I would love a guy like Myron Lewis in round 4. He’s got ths skills, size, and speed to hang with Dallas Clark.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tried really hard

to get Myron Lewis to fit in here, but didn’t manage to do it. I dig him.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked it enough but

I’m not sure the Texans FO will be so rational, esp with the 7th round pick.

Interested to know what your OG rankings are, MDC. I mean, after Iupati.

by Tris X P on Apr 6, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, that's easy

As far as which ones I like best for our existing coaches/personnel
1. Iupati
2. Petrus
3. Newhouse
4. Mike Johnson
5. Zane Beadles
6. Brandon Carter
7. Ciron Black
8. Shelley Smith
9. Howell
10. Parsons
11. Shelley Smith
12. Chris DeGeare

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it possible

There are two OG prospects named Shelley Smith?

"380 pounds of pure pirogi" ~ Cush

by LoneSpot on Apr 6, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

/moron

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 7, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

You drafted heavily in the late rounds on the Interior Offensive Line, with some prospects

Good man! That is what the team needs and I hope they follow suit.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

DT must be addressed

in the first 3 rounds. If you look at the current state of all need positions (S, CB, DT, OG, RB, WLB), the weakest by far is DT. We went to battle last year with sleepy, dopey and sneezy at tackle: a 40 year old geezer, a depth player from the 0-16 detroit lions, and a 10th overall bust (IMO). I still have faith that an Okoye/300+ lb behemoth w/ a motor combination at tackle would make our D-line tops in the league but you can’t pass up Thomas if he’s there at 20. I haven’t looked into later round DT depth but I’m of the mind that you take the largest, fastest, strongest DL player on the board in the 2nd or 3rd.

by leacheatsbabies on Apr 6, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

You're preaching to the choir

about the need for a NT. And, if Joseph winds up being a third-round player instead of a fourth, we’re in complete agreement. He’s huge, fast, strong, etc.

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 6, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just YouTube'd and read a little

on Linval Joseph. Really insightful pick MDC. He’s certainly got the measurables (6’4, 320, 4.92 40-yard) but a huge plus is that he played for the best team in the C-USA (East Carolina). For anyone who doesn’t watch C-USA (I don’t blame you, I’m a UH alum), its a speed conference. YouTube him and watch some clips..at his size, he can run down some burners from behind. Much Size and a good motor are needed on our interior line and this guys seems like great value. I applaud your work ethic, MDC.

by leacheatsbabies on Apr 6, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am gonna bet my left nut

that Thomas and Williams will both be gone by #20. Since I hate the thought of picking a RB in the 1st round, I think the best value pick is still going to be Wilson/McCourty even though I agree that Dunta isnt as big of a loss as the media makes out. I’d look to go NT in the second because I agree with another poster, in order for the player to be better than the 2 UTs we have been doing, he needs to be decent. For the 3rd and 4th I’d go RB and FS, If we didnt sign Wade Smith I would have gone C in either the 3rd or 4th. From the 5-6th I’d probably look at some more depth on the interior o line, and some LB depth so we dont need Buster Davis again, and someone with a cool name that sounds sexual in the 7th.

Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed

by DaGoaT on Apr 6, 2010 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll take that bet

and put up a shoe that says “Pay Me Rick” on it….I choose to keep my family jewels intact….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way I've put it...

We’ve needed a starting CB since Dunta suffered his injury in 2007….or when Aaron Glenn left after the 2004 season.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this very much.

Not that I know who most of those players are, but FS, CB, OG is my dream scenario. And giving Diles and Adibi some more competition with a late-round pick does it for me as well. I tend to think that any DT we take is going to wind up sucking ass regardless, but meh. Maybe he’ll make it onto the field more than Okam.

by Nashmeister on Apr 6, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

That's a fair assumption

but the run of bad luck on DTs has to end sometime. Maybe rounds 1 and 2, take a DT.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with all you've done here, and your reasonings why...

Because EVERY draft should have a “because it would make beefy happy” pick. Prolly two.

I almost jumped offsides at the initial reading of Earl Thomas, mainly based on what bfd has said about him, but if the kid can play zone corner, with those measureables, while Eugene keeps his future spot warm at FS, then I’d be all for it. Just as a FS, and I’d come up to LR, and kick your dog.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Apr 6, 2010 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

If MDC's Draft Comes To Pass For The Texans...

Coors Lights are on me come Saturday night.

I would LOVE for Earl Thomas to fall to No. 20. As discussed ad nauseam, however, I just don’t see it happening.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Apr 6, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Is a pro-day 40-time really so influential?

Before he ran that sub-4.4, people were considering him as a likely 20th-30th pick, no? It doesn’t erase any of the other concerns about him. Every little change in the draft-process tends to get blown out of proportion a bit, methinks. He’s a safety, and there are at least two CBs and possibly even two other safeties who might go before him. If teams think he’s capable of playing CB, he might go earlier. But I wouldn’t be so certain that he won’t be available at #20.

by Nashmeister on Apr 6, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice draft MDC

I like the balance up front and the reload in the later rounds.

If the Texans did get Matthews Jr. it would be poetic justice.

by HoustonTransplant on Apr 6, 2010 6:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree this was a very nice draft to read

=) It would be nice if it becomes fact (instead of fiction)

by BattleRedFan on Apr 6, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we want a nose tackle

How hard would it be to get haynesworth from the Redskins? I bet they would let him go for a second rounder and maybe a future second. He would seriously put our D- Line as one of the top 3 in the league.

by WhimpyJimmy on Apr 6, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Top 3 by DBag quotient.

And thats all by himself. FUCK HAYNSWORTH.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 7, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Just no. He’s lazy, undermotivated, has a huge contract, and is a noted asshole. He embodies the essence of the BE-SFer mystique. Haynesworth was only ever going to play two good seasons of football well in his life- the two before he got paid. That’s over now. His personal qualities aside, sure it might’ve been cool if he played those seasons for us, but he didn’t and never will.

by JimboTexan on Apr 7, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

I sent this to MDC in an email, and I will go on record saying it here.

As much as I believe we need a true NT, a real space-eater, there’s no way in hell Bush will draft a guy like this. We’ll get no Williams, no Joseph, no Sally Struthers. We might take another Okam-type player very late, but from everything I see, Bush refuses to see the value in a true NT. Merely by the fact Bush can’t utilize Reeves correctly is just another reason why I don’t think we’ll take an NT.
_____________

Dear Frank Bush: Please make me look like an ignorant ass by ignoring the above. I’ll eat far more crow for this than I did with Cushing. Seriously. I’ll even eat a tofu hot dog. I can offer no better retribution.

Your BFF,

Me.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL I believe you
I’ll even eat a tofu hot dog

but did you really mean retribution? or reparation?

(sorry it was a compulsion to ask. . . .couldn’t control myself) Have you actually mapped a path to the part of the grocery store where they sell the tofu hotdogs? That just sounds so harsh . . . as in . . . seriously horrid.

by BattleRedFan on Apr 6, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you telling me

that I not only missed the latest competition for the spot as BFD’s BFF, but that I ultimately lost to Frank Bush!?!

This is a big hit to my psyche meter.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 6, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's hard to compete...

against that Bush Zone.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 6, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it Bush

Or Kollar?

I might make a post about this.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 7, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on

which one has the higher IQ. Because the answer is obviously “the other guy.”

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 7, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Bush is not our general manager.

Which means that the oft-blown Rick Smith apparently “refuses to see the value in a true NT” as well.

The odds of either making it this far in the NFL without having considerable knowledge of the sport is quite unlikely. Which most likely means that any clamoring for a NT is more likely a result of fans transposing other teams’ success (which is 90% based off of 3-4 defenses) onto the state of our own team.

With a second-round pick invested in Barwin and a hefty contract in Antonio Smith, any NT drafted would by all accounts be a two-down player. Said NT would help us against runs up the middle (an area in which this team was pretty stout after the addition of Pollard), and little else. What we need is more pressure in 3rd-down situations, which really is incumbent upon slightly better coverage and better play by Okoye and Mario.

I don’t really get the Reeves comment either. We’re talking about a former 7th-round pick who most Texans fans considered a scapegoat two years ago. There’s not really any reason to expect him to play at a high level.

I’m a bit drunk, so pardon me if I sound like a dick or a Frank Bush defender. I suspect nothing but negative responses for this comment. But I’m still looking for evidence as to why a fat-ass, two-down nose tackle would benefit the Texans, much less any 4-3 defense

by Nashmeister on Apr 7, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'll point you to the reason why I want a NT

Minnesota’s DL especially that round mound named Pat Williams.

Jared Douchebag Allen – Kevin Williams – Pat Williams – Ray Edwards

Those 4 alone are enough to get pressure sometimes because Pat can hold the point of attack and commands 2 men to block him or else he completely collapses the pocket (if its a run play then he clogs the run lanes….and shields the LBs which lets them flow and fill the hole the RB is looking for). This frees up everyone else 1 on 1…..Kevin shoots a gap, Jared tries to embarrass the LT and Ray takes on a RT.

Mario – Amobi – NT – Smith/Barwin….makes it entirely possible to replicate that.

Even if the NT is only a 2 down guy…then it continues to improve the defense vs the run because of the middle clog and shielding DeMeco which allows him to make more plays.

I look at Minnesota’s disruptive front 7…and our front 7…..and we’re only missing that NT from really matching what they do.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 7, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even before Jared Allen went to MN

the Williams’ Wall was formidable for any offense. They always had one of the lowest rushing yards per game average every season. I want that because when we face Chris Johnson and MJD twice a year, I want to be able to stop the run. Yes, we got better against the run last season, but we couldn’t stop those two guys (we did better against MJD the second time, but I want better). We went 1-5 in the division last year. If we cannot win our division, we probably won’t make the playoffs.

I am hoping that Dan Williams is available for our pick because whether they choose him or not will at least show if Smithiak does want a true NT.

by theaxeeffect4311 on Apr 7, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pat Williams weighs in at 317 lbs, according to espn.com

I wouldn’t label him as a space-eating 3-4 NT. He happens to be a slightly-bigger DT who plays the run well and is capable of getting to the QB from time to time on passing downs. He’s quite good. So is Kevin Williams, mind you, who was excellent in 2003 and 2004 without a “space-eating NT” playing next to him. In fact, I’’d be interested to hear from Minnesota fans (or coaches, but that ain’t happening) which player they think is more valuable.

As for Dan Williams automatically making Okoye better? It’s possible. But the during two years before Pat got to Minny, Kevin posted 22 sacks over the course of two seasons. Since then, he’s notched 26.5 over five full seasons. Sacks aren’t the end-all, of course, but the point is that he was producing before Pat was there, while the same can’t be said for Okoye.

At some point, I think we just need to be content with having four 1st-round picks and a high-priced free agent in our front-seven. It’s time for those guys to step up and play better instead of complaining that our “nose tackle” was only a former second-rounder and weighs seven pounds less than Pat Williams.

If they wind up drafting a big DT, then kudos. I’ll admit how wrong I was and I’ll be excited because it means they think they can work that type of player into their system. But I just don’t like this idea that if they don’t do it, then all of a sudden they don’t understand football. Also, I’m generally frightened by the ridiculously high bust-percentage on DTs.

by Nashmeister on Apr 7, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

His official weight may be 317

but there’s no way that dude isn’t 325-330. It’s like how Jerry Ball was listed around 325 forever, despite obviously being over 350.

Also, there’s nothing that says our NT HAS to be a two-down player. If we get better pass rushes having him in than having Antonio at DT, why wouldn’t we just keep the new guy in?

" If CB is a big hole, Dunta was the shovel."
- Rivers McCown

by MDC on Apr 7, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've often wondered the same...

People on these interwebz are pretty confident in their abilities to determine EXACTLY what a player will and will not be able to do, it would seem.
Debate all you want, but until Smithiak completely shits the bed in a draft, maybe we should tap the brakes a bit.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Apr 7, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Weights are tricky.

I suppose there’s not really a reliable source for it past the combine.

However, the coaches seemed really high on Antonio Smith’s ability to move inside on 3rd-downs last year. Unless it’s another smokescreen, I just can’t imagine them changing that dynamic.

However it shapes up, let’s just not fall into the trap of assuming we know more than Rick Smith and ragging on the draft pick before he even steps onto the field (ala Cushing). I’d rather have an OG or CB, but I’m not going to piss all over Rick Smith and Dan Williams if they do take him. Seriously, last year was pretty fucking absurd around here right after the draft.

by Nashmeister on Apr 7, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit I am damn near 290

If that is 317 my scale lies to me :sad face:


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Apr 8, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

metric system

That’s 317 kilograms….must have accidentally printed lbs instead of kg

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Apr 8, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That 317

Is after he recently lost 20-30 pounds because he was getting older. Its also much larger then any of the under tackles that people have mocked us to take.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 7, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree completely

And it makes me profoundly sad. It’s right on up there with his fixation with the vanilla zone in my opinion. I honestly believe he’d actually prefer to have two Amobi Okoyes on the line than an NT and Amobi. It is simply not this regimes philosophy, pre or post- Bush to draft quality NTs.

by JimboTexan on Apr 7, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've asked it before, and I'll ask it again...

Which mammoth badass NT’s have we purposely missed out on over the last 5 years, just because the regime didn’t want that type of player?

I’ll be waiting, once again….

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Apr 7, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Given the players

We have drafted and signed and the sporadic, albeit incomplete quotes from Smithiak and Co. I think there’s certainly an argument that they have displayed a preference for UTs.

Here’s a few DTs from 2007-09 I think could have been helpful, in no particular order: Branch, Soliai, Ryan, Sims, Rubin, Hill, Martin.

Some of these are better than others, some much worse and late-round flyers at best. We haven’t taken a shot aside from Okam (as an amusing aside, “Franklin” Okam’s twitter can be found at: http://twitter-athletes.com/index.cfm?athleteID=4408) . In the interim, here are some DTs we signed:

Cody
Bulman
Zgonina
DelJuan Robinson
Killings

It’s certainly possible that this is not purposeful, but I do think it displays a pattern or not taking or signing larger NTs. That said, it’s entirely possible that our perceptions aside, they really do want an NT and will take one and they simply haven’t because so far the value/need/pick hasn’t meshed up right. I hope that’s the explanation.

That’s my take.

by JimboTexan on Apr 7, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your response.

Of that list, Branch was really the only one I had much interest in, over giving Okam a full-on shot, though.
I too hope that your explanation is correct. (fingers crossed)

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Apr 7, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we do draft Williams...

Can we call our guys the Williams Wall 2.0 now with more weightspeed?


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Apr 7, 2010 2:08 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

it'd be the

Williams Left Side of the Line. with less weight but more speed…and hence much more weightspeed…i think.

by leacheatsbabies on Apr 7, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

we will have to come up with something more catchy

than Williams Left Side of the line… but with deff more weightspeed.


Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Apr 8, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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