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Five Questions: Offense

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Brian Cushing.

Tim has actually inserted a clause into our deals where we need to mention Brian Cushing at least one time before we can click the post button.  Saying it twice is even better, as far as affiliates and links go.  Three times, however, leads to him appearing in your room a la Biggie Smalls in South Park.  Except instead of shooting at you with pistols, there are needles everywhere and he now (apparently) masturbates vigorously.     

Anyway, there are actual football questions to be asked now that we have, for the most part, set next year's roster in pencil post-draft.  I've decided to tackle the most important of these questions, in my mind, as Bri--DeMeco Ryans tackles running backs in mid-cut.  Today we'll look over the offense, and we'll eventually cover the defense and the special teams/coaching.

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1) Can Matt Schaub play all sixteen games again?

He’s not as injury prone as some experts believe, in my mind, but Schaub’s pain threshold will again be an open question.  Facing a brutal defensive schedule in a loaded AFC race, the Texans will need Schaub to start every game to have a real shot at beating the field, particularly since Dan Orlovsky wasn’t even impressive enough to take the backup job last year. 

2) How involved will Jacoby Jones be?

Jones’ benching for missing curfew, combined with a reluctance to trust him on the field, led to him getting only 25.5% of the snaps last year.  When he did get on the field, he was excellent: a 68% catch rate, and he led all receivers with between 10-49 passes in both Football Outsiders’ DYAR and DVOA ratings.  With Andre Johnson demanding so much safety help every play, Jones should be able to roam free on the other side and potentially get a lot of one-on-one deep balls.  Kevin Walter re-signed with the Texans, giving them an excuse to put Jones in the slot and keep him off the field for the sake of run blocking.  The Texans don’t necessarily need to take Walter off the field to use Jones--they could run less two tight end and two back sets--but considering how explosive the offense was when Jones was out there last season, it’s my opinion that the Texans should find a way to get him 50% of the snaps, at least.  I have a bad gut feeling that he doesn't reach that mark.

3) Will the running game be fixed?

Between a down year from Steve Slaton, fumbling issues, and injuries to important tight ends and guards, the run game was more theoretical than actual for the majority of the year.  The Texans attacked this area on a number of fronts, hiring an offensive line coach to be their new offensive coordinator, bringing in Ben Tate in the draft, and signing Wade Smith away from the Chiefs in free agency.  I thought the Texans would improve on regression alone, because it’s hard to fumble that many balls, but they may very well wind up turning this into an area of strength.  Between Tate, Arian Foster, and Steve Slaton, they have three backs who should work very well in the ZBS, and Tate has the potential to become a true gamebreaker in my book.  The question for me lies in the middle of the offensive line:  Between Smith and Antoine Caldwell, the Texans have two players who have the potential to vastly improve what they got out of guard and center last year.  Will they use them, or will they continue to play coaches' favorite with Kasey Studdard?  Will Studdard justify the love with the same kind of improvement we saw out of Duane Brown?  It’s an open question, but I’m penciling the Texans in to be at least average next year at pounding the rock.  Speaking of Brown...

4) Will Duane Brown continue to improve?

Brown took a huge step forward after an abysmal rookie season, going from extremely bad to just bad.  I’m not counting on it, but a further step forward this season would be an extremely positive sign for the Texans chances.  In addition to the now regular challenge of stopping not being impregnated by Dwight Freeney, the Texans will go up against the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th ranked teams in FO’s adjusted sack rate next year in Washington, Oakland, Denver, and Philadelphia.  Add on to that a potential bounceback by the Giants, Derrick Morgan joining Tennessee, and the Jets and Ravens both using the Rex Ryan 3-4, and it would be a really big plus for the Texans if Brown could take another step forward.

5) Is Owen Daniels the same player he was?

This is going to come off as harsh, but if Owen Daniels’ comeback doesn’t go smoothly, the Texans need to abandon him immediately.  While he was out last year, the offense didn’t really skip a beat.  The Texans have multiple credible tight ends.  And also many backups to those.  While I don’t foresee this being a problem as Daniels has come off ACL tears just fine in the past, if he is anything less than 100% of what he was last year in terms of separation and dexterity, I can also see the Texans holding on to the idea that he’s their best tight end far longer than they should, and potentially losing a game or two because of it.  This is too close of a playoff fight to give Daniels snaps if he’s not all the way back yet. 

What say you, BRB nation?  Are my concerns foolish? Should we welcome our new Rick Dennison overlords and their work on the offensive line?  What questions would you say are more important than those I have set forward?

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WTF?

What does this have to do with Cushing???

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by bigfatdrunk on May 11, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

CUSHING

Kinda tired of hearing about it.

by FlyingArmBar on May 12, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by Autra on May 11, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Reply FAIL?

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by bigfatdrunk on May 11, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

I just figured that if I posted right behind you, my scrawny ass wouldn’t have been noticed.

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by Autra on May 11, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think your concerns are right on...

I do see more three wide formations especially if OD is sucking. Jakespeare gives you that guy that will spank a NB, OLd and run by him. But he will get more around 30-40% of the snaps if he gets 50% he Kubes is showing his faith.

Matt Schaub will play 15.45 games! I see a repeat of the JAX game where he dislocated his non throwing arm shoulder.

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by Taco Joe on May 11, 2010 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd

Nice post, Rivers.

I am, in order, confident about Schaub; do not see a way, barring injury, that Jakespeare gets 50% of the snaps at WR; confident the running game will improve; cautiously optimistic about Duane Brown; and guarded about Owen Daniels returning to ’09 form in 2010.

Brian Cushing.

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by Tim on May 11, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Very nice, Rivers.

Yeah, I think our O is going to hinge on Brown’s performance, more so than with anybody else. We don’t have a viable replacement, and if he doesn’t take another, comparable step forward, we will be in serious trouble.

Agree on the run game. Simple regression to the mean (in this case, a good thing) will help.

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by bigfatdrunk on May 11, 2010 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Schaub will stay healthy. As long as there are no dirty hits, Schaub stays healthy. Down the stretch, the OLine did a great job of giving him time while Schaub also made quicker decisions.

My guess is Jacoby gets 40-50% of the snaps. Jacoby in the slot is going to be a great weapon.

The Running Game? Mr. Tate will get a lot of love here early and often (mostly from Mike) because he’s gonna have a big year.

D. Brown…well, we’ll see real fast how improved he is. Indy’s the worst opponent for him so we’ll see….

OD? He’ll be fine, but between Jacoby and Tate…I see his numbers declining somewhat.

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by TexansDC on May 11, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Great Post

1. I think if Schaub can make quicker decisions then he will be fine. He seemed to improve throughout the season in this aspect (based on my judgement) and quicker decision making will push him into the top 5 QBs in the NFL hands down and not just by Texans fans.

2. I completely agree. I think Jakespeare creates HUGE mismatch problems out of the slot and he should. However, I would be happy if we could get to the 40-45% range because I dont think 50 will happen.

3. I feel like, for the same reasons you mentioned we will be better than last year running and that we will be back to the 2008 range.

4. I think the improved interior offensive line will help Brown tremendously as will Schaub making quicker decisions. I feel that even a slight improvement in his personal game will come off as a huge improvement to his game.

5. I agree with what everything TDC said above me on this one

by CoogmanSam on May 11, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Jakespeare

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by BrownCrayon on May 11, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Schaub proved his toughness last season

His health is as simple as not getting hit illegally. And having a more competitive line in front of him this year as opposed to having 2 backup guards and ragdoll protecting him should bode well for him, especially since he put up more passing yards then anyone last year in the absence of a running game and 2 established starting guards.

All 3 WRs sets need to have Walter in slot with Andre and Jacoby wide. Walter is effective recieving over the middle of the field and a much better blocker, perfect for a home in the slot..and Jacoby with the speed and athleticism is tailor made to be across the field from the all-world beast of Andre Johnson.

I’m really excited about the running game. Smash and Dash with Tate/Foster/Johnson and Slaton/Moats/Holliday. I also expect Tate to end up being a horse of the OROY flavor. We’ll be devastating in the screen game with Tate and Slaton both being good receiving backs. We’ll also be able to pound the rock to close out games.

OD will be OD. He always does.

by leacheatsbabies on May 11, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree

with you on the use of JJ on the outside and KW in the slot. To me it makes more sense that way. I always thought KW was better in the middle of the field than on the outside b/c I just don’t think he has the speed to be a burner on the outside which I would think you would want so you can stretch the field. DA and KW are perfect for the middle part of the field/slot position.

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by Bobobigbro on May 11, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding OD

I am hoping that the team makes a determination on OD in preseason and not waste away potential regular season wins/losses trying to figure it out. Shouldn’t the team be setting themselves up during OTAs and preseason practices and games for OD not to be effective? Just saying…. They have all these TEs who lack only game experience and practice reps being the guy…which is what? Just about everything? To go into the season and not have “that guy” who is designated to be the new OD would be, dang!…near-sighted?…far-sighted? (Someone help me). You get my point. I’m not saying that guy will BE OD, but he has to be initiated into the offense as if OD were not there. OD is coming off a catastrohic injury. It is quite possible, one tweak and all his therapy to get back on the field goes back to ground zero.

Just my opinion. No coach here….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 11, 2010 2:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Hopefully

Brown can take another step forward. If he doesn’t, I think we will need to add “OT” to next year’s draft needs.

by killtacular on May 11, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

He's not where I would like him to be

but do you at least agree he has showed consistent improvement?

As long as he’s getting better I don’t think it makes sense to bail on his guy with his athleticism who doesn’t have a ton of experience at the position.

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by papabear on May 11, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno if you can call it consistent based on one year

Especially with how tackles tend to go up and down

But yeah, he definitely improved. If he continues to improve, then I will have some crow to be very happy about eating.

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by riversmccown on May 11, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

5a) Will OD be a Texan come September?

If the contract talks don’t work out, will the FO let him play on a one-year tender or get some compensation for him this year? The offense did not suffer much after the loss of OD, and Graham, from all the info out there, seems to be a potential replacement for OD.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on May 11, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

They will let him get a chance to prove himself

His value is terribly diminished until he shows he’s healthy anyway…so there’s no reason for the Texans to make a trade that will either be for a: a marginal player or two or b: a draft pick that does nothing for us this year. In either scenario the Texans are better off taking the shot of having OD at an all pro level.

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by papabear on May 11, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

"offense didn't suffer.."

I’m not quite sure why everyone thinks its important that “the offense didn’t suffer when OD was out”…yet the RESULTS were a 4-game losing streak after he got injured. Does it matter if the offense puts up an ungodly amount of yards if the team doesn’t win? Our problem was SCORING..we fumble at the 1, we get stuffed on the goal line, we miss a field goal(s). Now having OD obviously doesn’t fix those problems but as far as scoring and moving the chains go, there was no one better in the league last year and no one more important to Matt Schaub then OD. 40 rec, 500 yds, 5 TDs in 7 games.

Coming of his 3rd ACL tear, I have my doubts as well. But he hasn’t given us any reason not to believe he won’t be a top 3 tight end for us next year and going forward.

by leacheatsbabies on May 11, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why no one thinks it didn't suffer....

The offense maintained its production. The team went 5-4 without OD. Kris Brown missed FGs. The OLine became garbage.

People who believe that losing OD was the sole reason for losing aren’t looking at the bigger picture.

To surely say: “Yeah, OD scores a TD and wins the game” is assuming too much because there is no such thing as automatic in the NFL. Even Peyton Manning has games where he passes for 0 TDs.

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by TexansDC on May 11, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe what I'm reading

People arguing about who is more important and saying the offense is just as effective without OD. I couldn’t disagree more with the accuracy of those statements and the sensibility of them.. Football is a team sport and the team plays as a unit. The unit is the sum of its parts. Losing a major part hurts the unit. This team has multiple threats, but the status quo is not maintained when one of the strongest parts goes down. Arguing over who means more to the team is below all of us here. The team is a team.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 11, 2010 10:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't believe it's assuming too much

just look at ODs stats compared to Dreessens after he went down. See any correlation?

Since when does losing a pro bowl TE and safety valve for the QB NOT matter to the teams success? If that were the case, then backups would be making just as much money as the starters.

by leacheatsbabies on May 11, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD

did have good games versus Miami and New England, but honestly….I’d rather see Schaub passing it downfield to his WRs, like Jacoby and KE, than a TE safety valve.

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by TexansDC on May 12, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

And once again....

Schaub’s numbers didn’t skip a beat with OD gone. So it didn’t seem like losing OD hurt him.

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by TexansDC on May 12, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

anyone remember when...

Dreessen caught a TD pass in the end zone last year? He stopped running, stood there and sort of looked at the ball in his hands as of thinking “Hey! I….I…..I caught it!”

I want more confidence in the position. Maybe that’s why we have 12^8 TE’s.

If OD can bounce back and play a complete season but with the production of 2009 before the unfortunate incident then praise Durga.

by HoustonTransplant on May 12, 2010 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I'm sure playing the Colts twice and a suddenly hot BESF team

Had nothing to do with that losing streak.

They sure didn’t have any problems against the Bills after OD went down.

I’d uh, say Andre Johnson is a little more valuable to Schaub than OD. Ever so slightly.

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by riversmccown on May 11, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude
I’d uh, say Andre Johnson is a little more valuable to Schaub than OD. Ever so slightly.

How do you manage to speak with your tongue that far in your cheek?

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by Autra on May 11, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd argue that even JJ will be more valuable down the road

Schaub went to JJ more and more after OD went down. After the NE game, he specifically mentioned that after the pick, he went and told Jacoby that with the coverage NE had on AJ, JJ needs to make a play or two. I fully expect Jacoby to get a good chunk of balls thrown his way, a lot of those which in the past would have gone to OD.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on May 12, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see it....

cause more Jacoby catches equals more Jacoby TDs…and I’m all about the Jacoby Jones TD celebrations.

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by TexansDC on May 12, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

We can always use more dances

to add to next years highlight video

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by Taco Joe on May 12, 2010 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our offense went something like 2/3, 3/4, 2/4, 1/2 in the red zones in those 4 games. We managed to find a way to get TDs to other players.

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by nolander on May 11, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

IMO

I see some anti-OD rhetoric. I will counter that by saying OD was having himself a Pro Bowl quality season. His replacements did not. That equates as a huge loss to the offense; not a gain and not a wash. Its a loss.

I would add this other thought, with no proof or stats to back it up, just opinion. I think with an effective pass catching TE, the running game could open up, because with that guy running routes over the middle it will always occupy LBs. Just a thought. I’m interested in what others think about that.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 11, 2010 10:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

But here's the thing....

There’s 1 pie. When OD was playing, it was essentially OD and Andre’s with scraps for the other guys.

When OD went down, it’s not as if we lost any pie. The pie, according to the stats, was the same pie. KW stepped up, Jacoby stepped up, DA stepped up, JD stepped up, and Andre had some of his best games of the season…..

The idea that we “lost” anything is refuted by the stats. It’s not as simple as giving OD his same slice of pie….because then all those other receivers don’t make those plays they did…

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by TexansDC on May 11, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sort of.

However, a lot of that might be more a result of strength of schedule. We went up against some pretty bad defenses during the second half of the season. You might say that the other team was better at preventing us from getting pie during the first eight games.

by Nashmeister on May 11, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duh!

You can say that about anyone. Someone goes down with injury and other players fill the void. Yeah!!! I’m not sure what your point is. Maybe it’s that it took four players to fill the void that OD left when he was injured…LOL!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 11, 2010 11:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

My point was...

that the offense didn’t miss him.

That Schaub spread the ball around…which helps because the defenses can’t really key in on just 2 people.

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by TexansDC on May 11, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

just curious..

would you say that the offense “didn’t miss” Andre if he went down and we lost the next 4 games but still ended up w/ 280 pass yards spreading it around to KW, DA, JJ?

by leacheatsbabies on May 11, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say the same thing....

if the stats showed no difference.

And honestly, I’d be proud of the team because good teams don’t skip a beat if there’s an injury.

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by TexansDC on May 12, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's kind of silly that we are in the position of defending

If a Pro Bowl quality TE is missed when he is injured. It’s academic I would say. If you broke your foot, would you say you didn’t miss it if you could grab the crutches in your closet already and use them to get around? I guess some wouldn’t.

If you totaled your car, would you miss it if you could ride the 5 miles to work on your bike? The bike took you just as far!

If you lost your favorite lure while fishing, would you miss it if you just put on a spoon and catch a 15 LB bass?

If your wife left you, would you miss her if you hired a young thing to clean and cook for you and she didn’t mind being paid in kind?

Simple questions with subjective answers.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 12, 2010 12:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

There's no anti-OD rhetoric

It’s simply a fact that the performance of the offense did not suffer substantially (not in terms of yards, or red zone performance. I am not sure how our 3rd down conversions looked without OD) when OD went down. Now, if I am Smithiak I will take those numbers to OD’s agent, and try my best to show him that OD is a product of the “system” and replaceable. That he’s coming out of his 3rd ACL surgery doesn’t help OD either. In such a scenario, there is a very good chance they do not reach a long-term agreement.

Now, the next decision that you face is if you want to let OD play for one year and walk out with no compensation, or try to get something for him while you can. This will depend simply on the value of OD to the team vs. value of whatever you acquire in return. Our TE position is both talented and deep. If say you can get a much needed quality starter at FS, or interior D-line for OD, it might be a trade worth considering just because they will add more to the team than what we lose trading OD. I will be surprised if the Texans don’t test the market for OD if they can’t reach an agreement on the contract. You need to remember that in the end it’s not possible to have a pro-bowl player at every position. If there’s an opportunity to improve the team (read offense + defense + ST) at the cost of losing OD I would fully expect the FO to make that move.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on May 12, 2010 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the 3rd down conversions

These are the games without OD. I include Buffalo because he got hurt very early in that game.

Buffalo: 7-13
Indianpolis: 10-16
Tennessee: 7-15
Indy 2: 4-8
Jags: 5-15
Seattle 5-13
St. Louis: 5-14
Miami: 4-11
Pats: 3-7

Without OD: 50-112 for 45%
With: 32-92 for 35%
Season Average: 82-204 for 40.2%
4-game losing streak: 26-54 for 48%

The numbers support that we were much better on 3rd downs without OD.
The Seattle/St. Louis easy games didn’t provide some huge bump.
In that 4-game losing streak we were at 48% (for context: the NFL leader had 49.2% 3rd down conversions, the 16th place team was at 39.8%, and the bottom 1/4th of the league was below 35%).

Again, there’s no statistical evidence that Houston suffered without OD. In fact, the statistical evidence shows that…..it’s not so crazy to say that we’re better without him

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by TexansDC on May 12, 2010 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't misconstrue that for...

me saying that we’re better without OD, but we’re certainly not worse nor did the offense suffer.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on May 12, 2010 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It most certainly did suffer

The guy wasn’t in the game. EOM

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 12, 2010 7:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry, but

Correlation does not equal causation. We had a top passing game in the league while Kasey Studdard was on the field. Does he deserve credit?

My opinion is, anytime you decrease the talent on the field, you are, ultimately, hurt.

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by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry BFD

but I agree with TDC here (and the statistical support he provided). If we did have one of the better passing games in the league last year then a lot of the credit has to go to Schaub and some of the credit to the offensive line for their PASS protection. They were terrible in run blocking and that is evident by the lack of a running game and backed up by the stats. They were better in pass protection so as much as we like to dismiss the play of Studdard and others they were able to give Schaub time to throw and become one of the best pass teams in the league last year which they in some way should receive some of the credit for allowing that to become possible.

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by Bobobigbro on May 12, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Correlation does not equal causation?

If only those people saying “Losing OD caused that 4-game losing streak” would come to the same realization.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on May 12, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think anyone is saying that losing OD is a GOOD thing

But we can get along fine without him offensively. That much has been proved.

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by riversmccown on May 12, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give Studdard a raise!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 12, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a question deserving of a post

Will Chester Pitts be a 2010 Houston Texan?

He’s got my vote.

by WhiskeyR on May 11, 2010 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd like him to be.

In theory at least. I have two qualifications to wanting him on the team though:

1) Health – Pitts injured his knee last year, and from what I’ve seen online, he won’t be back up to speed until June at the earliest. Assuming that he was going to be back to full speed, and that he’d be back to full speed by the beginning of the regular season, I’d be all for it. Unfortunately, it will probably be at least until the end of the season before he’s back to where he was, if he’s even going to get there. That said, for the right price, it’s a chance I’d like to take.

2) Price – Which leads us to price. Had he not injured his knee, there would probably be a bidding war between Washington and Seattle which would have kept us from re-signing him. As it is, Seattle or Washington will still probably want him more than we do, because they’re both installing the ZBS, and having Pitts there to help teach it from the trenches, even if he’s not fully healed, makes him more important to them than to us. Which is to say that they’ll pay more for his services than we would otherwise.

On top of that, Pitts has said that he plans on living in Houston, which makes me think that the Texans will give him a low offer, hoping that he’ll take a discount to stay in Houston.

So to recap, in a vacuum, I think it would be a great pick up, but when you factor in his health and the money he’ll probably command, I don’t think he’ll be in a Texans jersey next year.

by Tailgate Andy on May 11, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also heard him (Pitts) say on the radio that

the Texans haven’t really talked to him much or shown him a lot of interest.

You might be right about the Texan trying to get him at a basement price hoping he’ll just take it and no one else offers him anything a whole lot better.

Confucius say "man who enter door sideways going to Bangkok".

by Bobobigbro on May 12, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why pay over-market for a player that may never play again?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on May 12, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

This is spoken to us through the sheer amount of guards and centers on the roster.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on May 12, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great post

but sad to see him refered to as a great “pick up”.

Another question – without Pitts and that guy who tried to kick the field goals, who is the oldest Texans (not in terms of age)…?

by WhiskeyR on May 11, 2010 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

It goes Shankapotomus

Pitts, Andre Johnson it 8 yrs on the texans

After that the next longest Texans are: Mini Robin Williams, Super Mario, and Tim Bullman and the Caveman Eric Winston all with 5 yrs in the steal blue!!!!…

Now as for the oldest Texan that would be the Dinosaur we have as a fairly good punter. Matt “I was at stonehenge” Turk….

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on May 12, 2010 3:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

it with***

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on May 12, 2010 3:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

TE

I know we all love the fact we have a herd of TEs on the team now, but is Casey our number one coming into OTA’s next week?

by wkittinger on May 13, 2010 6:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Daniel Orlovsky

2009 was his first year on the team, plus he doesn’t have very much pro experience. Safety Dan will pleasantly suprise Texan fans very soon. I see what Koobs must certainly see: Dan has great size; a gorgeous throwing motion; a helluva cannon; and also uses “touch” on his passes quite well.

Preseason 2009 made me a big fan of this QB; he’s one who should fit into our offense for years to come. I could actually see him being wildly successful for us (ala Schaub -maybe even better), if that ever became necessary/possible.

As for the negatives in what I saw from him last August: his decision making and patience left much to be desired. He was way too reliant on the deep pass (a habit young QBs easily get into, especially when they’re blessed with such a cannon arm and/or Calvin Johnson at WR -as he had in Detroit). And QB tends to be the most poorly coached position in sports (always keep that in mind when judging inexperienced and amateur QBs). With our staff he sure won’t be inexperienced, or poorly coached, for very long.

His negatives shouldn’t be difficult for our staff to correct. Last year he was so new to the playbook, and had little to no timing with his offensive unit. As I have mentioned, Koobs is an able QB mentor (and judging by his facial expressions on the sidelines while witnessing Dan O’s constant bomb attempts last preseason, I’m sure he’s worked very hard on the QB prospect’s judgement while providing him reason to be comfortable with a more conservative approach amidst our plethora of weapons. Even if it had meant stapling his eyes open during film sessions, as a way for him to better learn his reads).

Having Grossman holding the spot as our #2 QB for a year should not be an indictment of our skilled QB project. Danny has really big upside but wasn’t quite ready last year.

Oh, and all the stuff with rolling out behind the endline, etc, is what it is. A byproduct of [once] being a QB for the Lions. And much ado about one broken play.

by Cut Block on May 14, 2010 4:36 AM CDT reply actions  

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