Brian Cushing Still Defensive Rookie Of The Year; World Does Not Spin Off Axis
by Tim on May 12, 2010 3:37 PM CDT
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PrintAs DreKeem said in this FanShot, Brian Cushing retained DROY honors, becoming the first two-time Defensive Rookie of the Year in NFL history. Much gnashing of teeth, beating of breasts, and won't-someone-please-think-of-the-children hysteria has begun, and it's not likely to end anytime soon.
What does Brian Cushing think about it all? Click on the jump.
In an interview with KRIV after news of "Re-Vote 2010" broke, he had this to say:
"I'm very, very happy," Cushing said of keeping the AP award in an interview with FOX 26 Sports and the Houston Chronicle. I'm very honored to get it, to keep it.
"It means a lot. Just the fact that people would stick by me and stay honest with me. Very, very excited and just honored. I really am."
Cushing admitted waiting for the revote to be announced was tough."It was," Cushing said. 'It was stressful. You heard some speculations about a revote. I didn't think it would really go through.
"It did, unforutnately, but you know what nothing changed and I'm just happy again, I am."
Cushing knew there was a chance he would lose the award.
"There was doubt," Cushing said. "I heard people talk. He should, he shouldn't. I'm just happy that the results are still the same."
Although Cushing is still your Defensive Rookie of the Year, he did lose his spot on the All-Pro team, which would seem a bit illogical, which in turn makes sense, considering how absurd this entire process has been. Click here for ESPN's story about all things Cushing, which includes quotes from some of the AP voters. Then celebrate and/or proclaim the end of the world as you see fit in the Comments below.
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Heh
I find it funny that one voter switched from voting for Byrd originally to voting for Cushing the second time around. Anyone have any idea who that was?
Update or whatever you want to call it
One NFL GM tells Thomas George of AOL Fanhouse that suspended LB Brian Cushing’s steroids use dates back to high school.
“We did our research on him before the draft last year and we concluded he was a chronic steroid user dating back to high school,” said the unnamed general manager. “More than a few people were surprised when he passed the steroid tests at the Combine. I think the guy became a pro at masking it, until he was caught. I definitely would have taken my vote back on (the Defensive Rookie of the Year) award if I had one.”
- AOL Fanhouse via Rotoworld
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
The final tipping point to the end of the world!
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Still waiting...
As I twittered
I feel bad for him and hope he figures out his name soon. Or at least a suitable alter ego. Max Power, perhaps?
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by riversmccown on May 12, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the guy became a pro at masking it, until he was caught
what a retarded thing to say.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
not necessarily
Peyton manning was a pro at 4th quarter comebacks….until he threw that pick in the super bowl…….it makes sense.
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Why is Lombardi saying he tested positive-more than once?
Diner morning news: No excuses for Cushing, Bengals
May 12, 2010
By Michael Lombardi
National Football Post
The Brian Cushing saga continues with news that he tested positive once for the drug HCG last September then subsequently tested negative several times later. So even though Cushing has taken a lie-detector test and proclaimed his innocence, the facts don’t support him. You cannot debate the test, you cannot debate the levels that caused him to test positive for having HCG in his system — more than once — and most of all, you cannot question the appeals process.
Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!
why shouldn't we question an appeals process
which allowed an apparently tainted and cheating rookie to play the entire season after a failed test? Seems logical to question a system which doesn’t achieve its primary goals until much after the fact.
by leacheatsbabies on May 12, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I am pretty sure that Cushing only failed one test....
hmmm i want to know where Michael Lombardi got his information…. I mean unless there is some sort of conspiracy against us as the texan fans to learn the truth… hahaha doubtful since the sports media usually hates on houston teams and athletes!!
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I don't think he is saying that.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Really can't see a similarity
I know steroids alter your body form, but I really doubt Bum Phillips has taken enough to be masquerading as rookie linebacker Brian Cushing. I mean he’s gotta be like 90 now, right?
Thanks for the interesting theory, anyway.
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by riversmccown on May 12, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I bet he had the shrunken balls though
Otherwise I doubt Wade would have been the lucky sperm
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on May 12, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's the "A" you were looking for.....
Earl Campbell is the perfect combination of assmass and weightspeed. - Papabear
Special note
This guy is so bad, he’s been banned from his own favorite team’s blogs.
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by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahaha
stupid media take that with no vaseline! hahaha
they sure hate any1 from Houston and its incredible they didnt get wat they were lookin for in this somewat witchhunt
um
You know AP voters are part of the media right?
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the answer in short..
no
Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.
by BattleRedHusker on May 12, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
is the Pope Catholic?
duh, i didnt say anything regarding the AP i kno wat they are, wat are u talkin about..
do u understand i was simply talkin trash about the media? i seriously doubt it
Right you are talking trash to the media
Because you think they are on a witchhunt and trying to burn Cushing at the stake. Yet the media members who voted are part of the media, and most stuck with Cushing. Media.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Good thing there wasn't another rookie worth a damn
If Cushing hadn’t completely obliterated the voting the 1st time, I think we’d be seeing a different result of this “revote”. Jarius Byrd is overhyped – he got 4 or 5 of his picks off Mark Sanchez in one game..Clay Matthews was solid as a pass rusher but his all-around game is lacking..Orakpo is a one or two down player at best and Laurinaitis…err i’m not sure how he even got 1..
by leacheatsbabies on May 12, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
i wasnt gonna say anything on here
cuz this is your blog, and of course you guys will back cushing. but saying byrd is over-hyped is totally alien to me. he had two picks off of dirty sanchez (not 4 or 5). and over a 6 week period amassed 8 picks, including three consecutive games of two picks each (the last game of that three game stretch coming against your beloved schaub. also byrd only played half the season, as he was not the starter till about midway through, and even then was subbed in and out for other safties on the roster. add in that he switched positions (came out of college as a CB) and that he battled an injury all year (sports hernia and hip problems) and you most certainly have a qualified DROY candidate.
say what you want about cushing (and how you think he is better than byrd) but i cant believe someone actually said no other rookie was worth a damn and followed that up with nonsensical stats…… (plus im not sure how he is over-hyped seeing as tho i dont think many knew of byrd before this re-vote outside of buffalo)
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To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
by silverstreak3k on May 12, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gotta +1 the guy
He had the right stats.
If you want to make a case that the Byrd was not the word, the argument one would take is that he didn’t have a full season of great, sustained play. Whether you want to fault that on coaches not getting him out there, injuries, him not going out and taking that job, or whatever it was (not a Bill fan, wouldn’t know exactly). There was not a lot of impact from Byrd aside from that brilliant six week stretch (8 INTs, 9 PDs) and the award’s name is Defensive Rookie of the Year, not Rookie of the Six Weeks.
"Lord, beer me strength."
That said....
I could only dream of a FS like Byrd in Houston. Dude’s a bonafide ballhawk.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Byrd sucks
Cushing owns. That is all…
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on May 12, 2010 7:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Re: Byrd Sucks
If Byrd sucks, I’ll go on record and say I wish we had a FS who “sucked” anywhere close to as much as him.
Come on now. We can be as pro-Cushing as we want to be, but saying Byrd sucks is insane. Byrd would have been a worthy DROY.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on May 12, 2010 8:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The Byrd is definitely the Word. (Warning: Video will make you cry for FS jealousy)
"Lord, beer me strength."
i know byrd is awesome
I have just been so pissed at all this cushing bs lately. And I think its hilarious cush won again. And I just think cush is awesome and everyone should know that. And I am pretty faded. Hell I am graduating in 2 days….
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on May 12, 2010 9:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
good one
College douche. Keep your hilarious cracks to yourself. We will all be better off…
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on May 13, 2010 12:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
relax buddy
Now that you’re graduating college maybe you should realize that saying things like “Man, I’m so faded” just isn’t as cool as it once was. Calling people douche though…
by einman77 on May 13, 2010 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
right
And I am sure you are the king of cool….
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on May 13, 2010 9:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
alot of severly underthrown and tipped passes
but you have to give the guy credit for having a nose for the ball. He picked teh Schaub off twice (one tipped). 2 off Sanchez, 2 off Delhomme, 1 off Derek Anderson and 1 off Vince Young so not exactly the whos-who of quality QBs put a pick is a pick is a pick.
by leacheatsbabies on May 12, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The thing about interceptions
is that the vast, vast majority of interceptions are simply being in position to capitalize on a crappy throw or tipped pass. He is always breaking on the receiver and has ready hands.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
I agree with Tim
I wish we had a FS that sucked as much as Jarius Byrd
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on May 13, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
apologies for the bad stats..just remembered hearing he picked Sanch off a bunch
all im trying to say is Cush won the award in a landslide. Of course you watched Byrd play all year just as we watched Cush and I’m sure if I would’ve seen Byrd play at all I would better understand how good he is..but 39 to 6 shows that a nation of sportswriters (admittedly retarded ones in light of recent events) thought that Cush really was THAT much better then his rookie competition.
by leacheatsbabies on May 12, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
but hell yeah, Byrd is a true ballhawk FS
Guy just seems to always be around the ball. Alot of us here at BRB would say he’s what we need the most right now over anything..so I definitely don’t discount his worthiness. There just happened to be someone who was much more worthy.
by leacheatsbabies on May 12, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
well obviously we could debate cushing vs byrd all day.
and im sure neither of us would get very far with the other. it was just the fact that you (and probably some others, i just noticed your comment) completely dismissed him that bothered me. but no worries, im not here to start anything, just wanted to stick up for byrd, who i believe was well worthy of DPOY honors. i just hope it lights a lil fire in him to do even better during his sophomore campaign. congrats on cushing retaining it, i hope whatever he was doing (allegedly) is behind him so he wont be demonized again.
btw im a huuuuge fan of shaub. i used to live in atl so the falcons are kind of my #2 team, and i was always upset that the management didnt realize how great he was compared to vick. you guys got a hell of a qb there, one tha buffalo would die for.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
by silverstreak3k on May 12, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
As great as that is
interceptions are one of the most random events in a football game. I’d say Byrd had more luck than skill. Had any of the other guys been subbed in, they could have had the interceptions. Right place + right time does not always equal great. From advancednflstats.com Byrd doesn’t have a +WPA or +EPA which means even though he had those interceptions they really didn’t matter.
However, Brian Cushing’s 133/4 (I’ve seen both for some reason) tackles at SLB has him at a 1.57 tackle factor (tackle factor is players tackles divided by average number of tackles from that position) and lead the awesome linebacking core of the Houston Texans with a 1.47 +WPA.
See www.advancednflstats.com for explanations of all that.
by PMJ001 on May 12, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh my goodness
if anyone could have made those ints, then the bills and a lot of free safties would have a ton more ints. thats the most ridiculous thing i have heard when it comes to explaining byrds ints. and its reaching. the reason that byrds ints didnt help the bills win is because the offense suuuuuuucccckkkkks. and the coaching staff suuuuuuuucked.
byrd was one of the leading reasons the bills were able to keep opposing qbs to horrible qb ratings. they had held qbs to one of the lowest (if not the lowest i dont feel like checking right now) qb ratings from around the league. it was their rushing defense and anemic offense that sucked hard.
i could just as easily say that cushing was only benefiting from ryans and williams, but that would be just as equally absurd. people make plays and become play makers like cushing and byrd because of skill, not luck.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
by silverstreak3k on May 12, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i mean have you seen his highlights?
he makes some damn good catches. and he was probably in the right place at the right time to make those plays cuz he knows how to read a defense and get to the ball… or was cushing just in the right place at the right time for all of his stats and therefore lucky as well?
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
by silverstreak3k on May 12, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW
Re: my post below…
I’m not saying anything bad about Byrd. In fact, I have the power to offer you a trade and make it happen in real life. I’ll give you Brian Russell, John Busing, and Jeff Zgonina for Byrd. Right now. Deal?
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I don't think they'll be happy
unless you include Chris Brown in the package.
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
Duh
Kris not Chris
Assmass alone does not a NT make.
To show what a generous guy I am
I’ll toss in both. Hell, and Kasey Studdard.
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The Bills Secondary
Is really really good. They just need some damn LBs and DTs to stay healthy.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I am on silver's side
If INTs were so lucky then Houston would have more. Byrd, and the Buffalo secondary, is very good. Easily the strength of that team.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I never said they were lucky, I said they were one of the most random events in a game. Getting an interception takes both luck and skill but how much of each? His three game, 2 interception streak could have been the result of a rare random occurrence.
I have to agree
There is a certain skill set in creating ints, but it’s still random when compiling them. I always point to what I’ve dubbed the “”http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/ReinMi00.htm" target="new">Mike Reinfeldt Effect." He was a good, ball-hawking safety, but he simply put it all together one year. Is that skill? Or luck? I think it’s both.
Byrd’s nine picks last year is a pretty astounding number, and in only 75 player seasons have their been more than nine in a year.
Since 1970, it’s rare for a player to have two seasons of nine interceptions or greater. The outliers are:
Asante Samuel (2006 and 2009)
Bill Bradley (1971 and 1972)
Darren Sharper (2005 and 2009)
Delthea O’Neal (2001 and 2005)
Ed Reed (2004 and 2008)
Emmitt Thomas (1971 and 1974)
Everson Walls (1981 and 1985)
Tony Greene (1974 and 1977)
Ty Law (2005 and 1998)
That’s a whopping nine players in the past 40 years who have had two seasons of nine or more interceptions.
If you wanted to bet whether or not Byrd will get nine again? I’d take the under.
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This is my opinion as well
I would be highly surprised if Byrd had nearly as many picks this coming season.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on May 13, 2010 3:27 AM CDT up reply actions
the bottom line...
Cush only hurts himself in the long run and if thats what it takes to kill Peyton Manning then so be it:)
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
I find it funny
that all these writers are saying he took “hcG”, or “HcG”, or “HCg” (I guess typing their own cool rendition with upper and lowercase letters makes them feel as if they have some medical knowledge) when he hasn’t been accused of TAKING anything, just having slightly elevated levels of a natural hormone. And they all call it a “masking agent”, which makes no sense since it’s banned anyway..why would players use a masking agent that is itself illegal?
I’m not saying the guy didn’t juice up, he MAY have, but when sports writers are bashing the guy for apparently “taking” something and immediately inferring that he took steroids when NOTHING except the fact that his body produced more of a hormone has been proven.
by leacheatsbabies on May 12, 2010 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
There is no standing proof that Cushing has ever taken steroids. There is speculation, there are even reasonable arguments… but no proof right now.
And Lombardi is full of crap; every other source, no matter how they tried to spin it, admitted that Cushing was not only clean in Training Camp and at the combine, but tested negative in tests that occurred within a week afterward AND in ever test that occurred throughout the season. Something’s not adding up, but I don’t see why more people don’t view this as anomalous-considering the hcg levels were so low-than damning.
Slow offseason, etc.
by krkenney on May 12, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I was just about to write about the same thing...
Lombardi’s article is Libel and I demand a retraction or i am going to write to Cush and tell him to sue the fuck out of NFP and Lombardi!
I know that nolander is still on the anger side, but I for one don’t believe that Cush is a roid user… I mean he passed so many tests afterwards… including the one the next week. Seriously it wasn’t even steroids he got popped for. yeah i understand hCG is used by many people to get their testicles back to normal size, but until someone has physical proof i am on Team CUSH!
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Who else is full of crap?
Charles Robinson. He came off as a pompous douche through his whole ordeal who never got the facts straight.
His colleague, Jason Cole, did turn in an interesting take on the whole ordeal though.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Cole
This whole situation actually made me think a lot about how I feel about drugs and somewhat shady methods in sports. I’m sort of conflicted. For one thing, I think that a fair amount of NFL players use some kind of enhancement or something that some people would look down on. Not only that, but I think sometimes that it’s hard to make a delineation between some of these PEDs and supplements and the so called approved ones. Like even something like muscle milk, that exists to help a player build muscle faster than they would otherwise be able to naturally. Other supplements and energy drinks and energy bars help give a player a boost before they work out so that they can work out longer. Are those not performance enhancers? I don’t know, I’m sort of struggling within myself. Not to mention, the NFL is fighting an uphill battle as far as trying to track every single thing that an athlete can take to make themselves play better. The supplements/pharmacology industries just work too fast I think. I don’t know, just some shit that was on my mind.
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by SlatonShuffle on May 12, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
^^^^
This.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on May 13, 2010 11:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
his agent will be up tonight preparing a statement
ah today’s wonderful world of sports.
by leacheatsbabies on May 12, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
This proves Brian is the best
Cushing is now the only player in NFL history to win Rookie of the Year award twice
Despite Goodall’s plot to stop the Texans so Manning can go to the Super Bowl again, the Texans will prevail
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Dear fucking God.
I am getting absolutely sick of this shit. Let’s be honest with ourselves (and I’ll say right off the bat that I am fairly confused about the whole steroid use thing in the NFL). How many people here truly believe that Cush didn’t juice? Let’s pull back a little further. How many people seriously believe that a significant percentage of NFL players are clean?
Look at these guys. They are all freaks of nature. They play an extremely violent sport and they’re all fucking huge and fast. Of course a bunch of them are juicing.
Whether or not that’s good is another issue. But let’s not kid ourselves here. You know it, I know it, and sure as fuck all the righteous pricks in the media know it.
Cushing failed a test. There are consequences for that. He has to abide by those. That’s all good. But I’m getting sick of all this moralizing and hand-wringing (PK: He cheated) by guys like Lombardi and King when they know damn well the this kind of shit happens everywhere.
Maybe it’s not good. But it is reality. I don’t know if I like it or not. And rather than fall on our swords or cry to the heavens when something like this happens and try to make it out to be something that is in’t, how about we treat it like it is. Cushing agreed to play by a set of rules. He broke them and got caught. He has to pay a penalty. Nothing more, nothing less. Because if we’re trying to be the voice of morality in the NFL then we’ve bit off way more than we can chew.
BTW, if Cush had been a pro cyclist, he would have been suspended for two years.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on May 13, 2010 3:46 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
On my high school football team
At least 25% of the kids took prohormones/steroids/uppers for an advantage.
And this was before millions of dollars were on the line.
Rec’d for truth.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
Shit, dude
Tons of guys were doing roids, amphetamines, etc. back in my HS in the mid- to late-80s. Oh, and coke. Lots of coke. Never understood that one.
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by bigfatdrunk on May 13, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
That was what you south-side kids did
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by bigfatdrunk on May 13, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
NO SHIT!
I’m sick of the hand wringing, I bet if they tested the entire league all at once you’d players that you’d never imagined testing positive.
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
Mike Greenberg..
is beside himself on this issue and I think it’s freakin hilarious!
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
Houston Texans live streaming the presser at 1 central.
The funny thing is that the Texans are likely to get a ton of page hits from that.
The press release says that Cushing will speak to the media. I know of some out of town media who are making it to the conference. I’m not sure we find out a ton (lawyers!) but at a minimum, I’d like to find out why the appeals process went so long. Maybe the timeline of what happened when and when the Texans were notified of things, etc.
http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/2010/05/brian_cushing_speaks.html
I’d like to find out why the appeals process went so long
I take it you won’t accept “the nfl is a bunch of morons” as an answer?
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My basic assumption
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by bigfatdrunk on May 13, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
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