Andre Johnson Skips First Day Of OTAs
Good news, Houston fans! There's brand new, non-Cushing related drama surrounding your Houston Texans. And the player at the center of it is none other than the best freaking wide receiver on the planet!
Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson missed Monday's start of organized team activities because he is unhappy with his contract.
Johnson has five years remaining on his contract and will make a base salary of $5.8 million in 2010.
The OTAs are not mandatory like the June minicamp.
Although I'm sure you'll read/hear that this is somehow a sign of the apocalypse, I wouldn't get too revved up about it. The Texans got ahead of the curve when they made the wise decision to re-do 'Dre's contract back in March of 2007. There's been a significant increase in guaranteed money for star wideouts since then, culminating with Brandon Marshall's recent deal with the Dolphins. Andre Johnson is the best wide receiver in football, and he wants to be paid as such. Nothing to see here, folks.
Here's a bold prediction for you: Andre Johnson gets a new deal with new, big, guaranteed dollars by training camp. File this one under "Much Ado About Nothing."
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Like I said in the OTA's post
I feared this would happen when I saw the contract that Brandon Marshall got. Shit…
I don't disagree that he's earned it
But why sign the extension two years ago if you thought it was unfair?
clearly
his agent sucks. Trying to make up for that fuck up now.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
i believe
his agent is his uncle
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on May 17, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't he coming off of injuries two years ago?
you take the money when it’s there
in 2010… it’s there!
he was coming of an injury for the last contract
Now he is comming off of 2 years as the best receiver in Football.
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on May 17, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
because that was big money back then
but with the new contracts signed across the league AJ is not making the top money anymore
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on May 17, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
saw it
and knew you were right. However I was hoping the FO would see it first and handle it. Oh well, theyll get it done either way,
by theSpaceCityKid on May 17, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
let me be the first
to say the sky is not falling. All will be well.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
by DaGoaT on May 17, 2010 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This sort of came out of nowhere
I say pay the man as long as we can lock him up for even longer.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I'm trying to figure out
how the interweb didn’t explode when he tried to type it. Isn’t that like trying to push two magnets together?
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
flagged
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on May 17, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
BANNED!
Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.
by BattleRedHusker on May 17, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, yeah
and I’m sure it must have been some jealous Indy Cunt fan that rec’d my obvious absurdity
I'm pretty sure there's a lot of women that would accept that offer
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on May 18, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Pay. Him. Rick.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
Vince Young - Suicide Doors
by CFHTim on May 17, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
When exactly
does his contract expire? Anoyone less busy at work lazy then me want to post the contracts of recievers making more then AJ?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
5 years...
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
Delusional fan thought...
Andre is still holding the team’s best interest at heart. Clearly, he wants to retire a Texan and wants an extension. Given that this season is uncapped, which allows for financial creativity and front-loading contracts, he wants to help the Texans in future capped years by lowering his cap total but still getting the dollars he deserves.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on May 17, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
AJ is the best WR in the NFL
I can’t blame him for finally wanting to get paid like one… he has been a class act in Houston. I say pay the guy immidiately and stop effing around about it. Rick Smith is showing that he can actually extend a player with DeMeco, why not try to do the same with our best player.
like I said on Facebook
I’m confident that he will get what he wants, he should be the highest paid WR in the league and he should be the first person to play his entire career with the Texans and number #80 should be retired if he retired today!
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
FB will suck the life right out of you.....
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
by Rip Jersey on May 18, 2010 2:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I just don't understand why he signed an eight year extension...
He doesn’t seem to have a very good agent.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
Vince Young - Suicide Doors
Why
Because 2 years ago he was comming off of an injury, and he got a 60MM contract for 8 years. That is a great deal for a guy comming off an injury. And at the time he hadn’t just played 2 years as the best WR in the business. He isn’t like Fat Albert he still plays after he gets paid!!
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on May 17, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Houston
Why can’t good things ever happen to Houston teams, is Houston built on an Indian grave?
longer than 5 years?
He would be 34 at the end of this current contract. It was a GREAT deal for the management and a decent one for Andre but now..as him and Schaub break all time records in the passing game yearly..its probably not enough.
Bottom line here is…Andre doesn’t want to leave and NO ONE in the FO will allow him leave so this’ll be worked out real soon, as Tim said.
Rick would love to sit down and talk to you, ’Dre. Just come on down to camp.
by leacheatsbabies on May 17, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
34...
but a guy like Andre, who does keep himself in shape, could probably play past that. Heck, Jerry Rice played into his 40s. What’s the harm in tacking another 2 or 3 years while making the deal even more cap friendly because they tacked on ridiculous bonus money?
"Lord, beer me strength."
He is certainly worth the money now
And since contracts aren’t guaranteed if he really sucks after 34 they can cut him.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Andre plays a grueling brand of WR
He’s a 10 rec. a game guy and he’s constantly taking big hits from other teams best corner AND safety…and best LB in alot of cases. I’m not saying Rice wasn’t that type of WR but it wouldn’t be smart to count on any WR, even Andre, at 35.
I definately agree this is a chance to add a year or two and wiggle around with the cap considerations to secure future interests. I just think it’d be good to see where we’re at when he’s 34-35 and then decide whether we want to him extend him until he’s in a wheelchair or sadly, but very possibly let him walk.
by leacheatsbabies on May 17, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The Karankawas.
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by JimboTexan on May 17, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
PAY HIM RICK!
"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley
ah shyt
i dont blame him tho, everyone in the org believes hes the best WR in the game well now its time to put their money where their mouth is
the crazy thing about organizations in all sports is that no matter how great u are, if u dont speak up about the money u deserve the F.O. WILL NOT mention anything and let u go underpaid.. its true they’ll run u into the ground until ur no more good then throw u away
Texans better not nickel and dime the franchises all time best player
Not that the NFL and NFLPA don't already have a whole lot of other shit to fix in the new CBA
But they’ve seriously got to do something about holdouts and contract restructures. We’re about to get to the point where anyone with a good year last year, wasn’t a top 10 pick, and didn’t get a new deal in the offseason, is going to hold out.
I understand the motivations behind it, because lifespans in this league are so short that players need to cash in while they can, but it’s just getting ridiculous.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on May 17, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
as long as the nfl is a non-guaranteed contract sport sport unlike
evry other sport, holdouts etc will always happen
So would this be something that goes along the lines of a rookie pay scale?
Not only invoke a rookie pay scale but have it so there is a max number of years that they can sign for? I know that will not solve the problem, but it would be a start. The holdout (potential holdout?) that comes to my mind this off-season will be Chris Johnson. Of course, his is a bit tricky with the 30 percent rule in place.
by theaxeeffect4311 on May 17, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Difficult to maneuver
Trying to play game theory here.
You have a game where the lifespan of a player is short, their performance will always vary from year-to-year, and asides from skill positions, there is only scant statistical information available that can tell you how well someone played.
My own suggestion (which will never happen since the NFLPA is the worst union in America) goes something like this:
-All player contracts are guaranteed up to a certain point at or not far above the minimum. Maybe something like a mil. This isn’t covered by the salary cap, so they could still be cut with pay. This protects the players from injuries and still allows the owners to not be screwed by an awful JaMarcus Russell-esque contract.
-In return, players cannot hold out for the purposes of restructuring their deals upwards. There would still be a way to restructure your deal down in the event that you were going to be released otherwise. Perhaps it would involve passing through waivers so a player could be sure no other team was willing to pay him that much. There could still be extensions or what-have-you, but the player wouldn’t be allowed to hold out without severe repercussions: forfeiting game checks, carry over of contract years in the event that the player doesn’t play, and the ability to hold onto that players rights.
-And the kicker: anyone voted to an (original) Pro Bowl team or an All-Pro team has the immediate right to void the rest of their contract after the year and see what they can find on the open market if they wish. While it’s not a perfect system at picking the cream of the crop, it’s solid enough. Meanwhile, teams would be forced to deal with their best players early enough in their careers to where they’d have solid market value. I know it seems like this would benefit the Cowboys/Redskins/etc., but really what would probably happen is a lot of extensions signed in December. The salary cap system ensures that the rich can’t pay EVERYBODY.
Of course, since that method would actually give the players some power, it’ll never happen.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter
by riversmccown on May 17, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps the best kinda compromise...
would be to limit the years.
(Quickly thrown together, so it won’t be perfect) Let’s say you have a rookie pay scale with guaranteed (fully) 3-year deals, but they definitely have to earn their big contract.
After that, you have players, roughly, 24-26 years old ready to enter their prime. They cash in for 4 years.
Then you have 28-30 year old players. Some at the tail end of their career (RBs) and some who definitely still have 5-10 good years left.
It’d be different, but it also allows the players to A) earn it. B) get paid for the premium years of their contract. C) Really put the emphasis on paying your veterans.
"Lord, beer me strength."
It makes me so angry
how many players pull this shit. Ryan Grant getting a new contract for half the season is the one that I remember really pissing me off.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
At the same time
If you had your own opportunity to make enough money to never care about money again in one go, would you hesitate to use all of the leverage available to you?
That doesn't make it right
There needs to be some sort of penalty for players constantly holding out.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
all contracts
should be required to be laced with performance bonuses. Play well, get paid well.
Be judgmental about the actions of the past, be hopeful about the actions of the future. -The Homers Creed
give him the Priest Holmes deal
If Andre wants more… fine… he earned it.
BUT give him an extension and not a new/replacement contract. This way he gets more upfront money without killing our bottom line. And since he has 6 more years on the current deal, he’ll be retired or close to it by the time any extension kicks in.
yeah I'd make it a 6 year deal from this season
that’s enough time for him to win 2 or 3 Super Bowl MVPs, groom Jacoby/drafted WRs into his replacement and be a savvy veteran leader towards the end. He’d be 35 years old at the end and hopefully he’ll retire in glory as a Texan..and promptly be inducted to the HOF on his first ballot.
Yeah, I wouldn’t worry too much about this
by leacheatsbabies on May 17, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I miss boring off-seasons...
And I also question the value of a receiver in Kubiak’s offense during capped years.
Best receiver in football? Sure. Worth $10 million per year when our QB and scheme made Andre Davis look like a stud? It’s certainly a question to ponder. I don’t blame Andre Johnson for doing this. He should get paid more than Brandon Marshall (even if he has considerably fewer kids to pay child support for).
And lastly, before you decide to switch from crucifying me to firing squad for the sake of speeding things up: Andre Johnson with his current contract is an incredibly valuable trade asset. We’re talking about the best WR in the game, in his prime, with a mid-range contract and no attitude/character issues. 1st and 3rd? I’m not sure what he’d pull, exactly. It’d be a nice haul, though.
Fin.
Only a 1st and a 3rd?
He is certainly worth more then that to this team.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
it's more about what he means to the success of the team
He’s got unreal chemistry with Schaub. He’s put up 2 seasons in a row with more recs and yards then all other WRs. He’s a real pro and ultimate team player. And he’s durable. Other WRs might be able to put up similar numbers in our offense but he’s been the face of this organization for the last 4-5 years and everyone (coaches, fans, players) respect him and think he’s the best. He’s tailormade to end his career in Houston and though it usually doesn’t work out that way.. I think Smithiak and Co. will do all that is necessary to make sure it does.
by leacheatsbabies on May 17, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
He's very good.
The best, in fact. And yes, he’s the face of the Texans (if that counts for anything). As far as “the success of the team”, though? Well, you might say he’s a modern-day Corey Dillon. It goes to show just how important receivers are, really. You can have the best WR in the league and still be lousy. I’m simply highlighting the opportunity-cost factor of this. It won’t happen, however, if the right offer were to appear… Ah, who am I kidding. Nobody is going to budge on this.
Nash
I agree 100% with you. At first I just said pay the man but the more I think about it, the more I am against it. He renegotiated his contract 2 years ago and still has the possibility to be the highest paid player at WR. His deal is longer but has the highest price. He might not make it in base but he has the potential to be the highest paid. This is becoming the norm in the league and at this rate I agree with you and Rivers about when will this stop and it seems like everytime someone has a good year they feel they are underpaid and want to tear up their contract that they signed a year or two ago. The contracts are not guaranteed but they also know that going in, it’s just the way it is. Yes the CBA should be adjusted for these things and a rookie pay scale should be used but the way it is now I have a real problem with guys having the potential to make $60MM after just renegotiating their contract, demand a new one (I hate it even more when their uncle is their agent for no real good reason at all). All players have to do now is sit out and cry about all the money they “should” be getting and force the team to trade them if they don’t give in. We need all the practice we can get and with guys sitting out the team is not a team, it’s individuals. In my eyes I just can’t see the justification behind this and I don’t agree with it. I guess I could have said it in one quick sentence. AJ, I am very disappointed.
Confucius say "man who enter door sideways going to Bangkok".
Playoffs
Isn’t this supposed to be the playoffs of bust year, I don’t think unloading him for picks for next year or the year after would really help contribute to the playoffs this year or next year or the year after.
i would say
1, 2, 3 this year, and a 1 3 next year…
thats just picks…
if we wanted players then we are looking at at least 2 pro bowlers from 1 team with other young high potential players…
anotherwards…NO TRADE
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on May 17, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
and by anotherwards
i meant … in other words
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on May 17, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Rest of the team
Any word on what OD looked like today? We know all know Dre will be playing this season and still go over 1200 yards so lets focus on things we aren’t sure about. Or maybe how the rookies did today.
I'm with you
I have no doubt that AJ will be in the fold this year. I am more interested in what is going on with the other players.
They already are
and it’s worth up to $60MM.
Confucius say "man who enter door sideways going to Bangkok".
Pay Him More
& front load that contract with a huge bonus this season
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on May 18, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
He agreed
to a contract worth $60MM. Seems fair enough. He agreed to the 8 year $60MM contract and negotiated it with the help of his uncle agent. I don’t see why the Texans should be “forced” to pay him more.
Confucius say "man who enter door sideways going to Bangkok".
PAY DA MAN!!!!!
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
somewhere...
Somewhere in a men’s club in Atlanta, Dunta Robinson is reading this blog saying “what da fuck? Why do they want AJ to get paid and not me?”
Sign him to big-time 4 year deal...
Like it or not, Andre will probably only be worth big money for another 4 years.
I think the Texans should pay him as the top WR in the league for those 4 years.
Mario > VY > Bush
Schaub > Romo
Go TEXANS!
Go TCU FROGS!
off topic but
on NFL network theyre replaying the Texans and Colts bak in Indy last yr
the game was great except for the end
its on the part where
Schaub inexplicably called a T.O. which gave Indy time to challenge and win the fumble :( that hurts like it happened yesterday
this does not help
for the other re-signings that we need for our team such as pollard, mario, and ryans.
Has he signed yet?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Ok here is my take....
1) Andre has 5 yrs left on his contract.
2) Andre is the BEST DAMN Receiver in the League… the only one i can say is actually close is Larry Fitzgerald…
3) The Texans first Hall of Famer!!! I am calling it now, he will be the first in steel blue to grace Canton
4) Could become THE GREATEST RECEIVER OF ALL TIME!
5) He should be paid BEST WR $$$
6) this deal will be done and over with before BFD can eat another bucket of chicken!
7) No one anywhere wouldn’t like Black Ares to get his due!
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Seriously?
Give the guy whatever he wants. If he wants 10 yrs 100 mill with 40 gtd. Give it to him.
Contracts aren’t worth shit anyways anymore so what the fuck does it matter.
Without him the rest of it is trivial.
No AJ… no team. for at least a couple more years
second most valuable next to schaub but y’all get the point here
by AllenOU on May 17, 2010 6:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
BFD
has eaten twenty six buckets of chicken since you posted this. You lose.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
Double Downs.
Once the double down sandwich came out…he quit doing buckets of chicken. He just eats like four of these things a day.
Jacoby is my ghostwriter.
Those things are
the worst things to put in your body but they are soooooooo damn good!
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
You're wrong, there are so many things much worse
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on May 18, 2010 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions
So true
Its surprising that the double down isn’t worse for you. The calorie count and grams of fat are shockingly low. Now the sodium on the other hand…
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I've always wondered..
this AJ holdout stuff came out today and Rick Smith gave the statement on it after OTAs so I would assume they’ve contacted AJ by now right? Maybe said “hey man come on down and chat, we’ll see what we can get done” or something. Or do they wait until the player finally reports and then see what the deal was.
by leacheatsbabies on May 17, 2010 8:00 PM CDT reply actions
Well, if you read the AP article.....Rick Smith
essentially told Andre how to get his money.
The team’s policy under Smith has been to only negotiate with players who are participating in team activities. Smith pointed to what star middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans did last offseason when he was unhappy with his contract.
"One of the things that was real smart on his part was the fact that he was upset that we had not been able to come to terms with an agreement, but he came back and was a part of the offseason workout and he was with his teammates, he was a leader and he did things the right way," Smith said. "He played his contract out and he was rewarded."
If Andre wants his money…he needs to get his butt in OTAs.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on May 17, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
AJ
I just want AJ there so he can school up Mr. Jackson and give him the biggest challenge he can face right now
good point
Hadn’t thought about that. What better way to be baptised by fire then to have to line up against the best receiver in the game?
Andre should show up and practice like Cushing does
I guess its tough to get by on $60 million
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I say pay him, but...
I think it is also nice that he had a quarterback that was consistent enough to be able to get him the ball. I guess if Carr were still here, we would just be continuing to throw money down the drain with Carr vs. taking that money and investing it into Andre. My only condition would be let’s do this thing to where he retires with the Texans. He keeps playing at this rate and he could be a…wait. Don’t want to jinx it.
I hate how players hold teams hostage, but, as they say, “it’s a business”. However, I also think he should have had kickers in his contract to increase the value based on how well he played vs whining about it now.
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
On second though
Maybe I don’t like that Andre Johnson is asking for more money. I was watching on NFL Network and Rod Woodson felt as though the Texans have done AJ very well. My thinking is that this is pretty accurate (besides the whole Carr issue, lol). AJ signed the 8 year 60 million dollar contract. It is his fault that he signed for that long, he didn’t have too. Doesn’t he have his Uncle as an agent (fire that guy)?
The problem I have with tearing up the contract is that when we get some of our players to sign ealry and to reasonable deals all of them are now going to expect the team to pay up more because they “outplayed” their deals. What the hell does that mean, “Outplayed”? The Texans will be opening up Pandora’s box with this situation and they better beware. We have alot of contract issues that are going to be popping up soon… OD, Schaub, Mario, Pollard, etc.
Just goes to show...
It rarely pays to be generous, from the team’s stand-point.
It’s not like he’s working from a small rookie contract. The Texans came out and offered him long-term security when he was coming off of a knee injury. If he hadn’t come back from it, the Texans still would have owed him all of the guaranteed money.
HERE IS A POSITIVE NON CUSHING NON JOHNSON, TEXANS RELATED STORY
Since I bombed out on my Pre-Draft Comments, I figured I would have to come back strong…
Mid-May Cheerleader Power Rankings…Houston is #1…we’re #1, we’re #1, we’re #1
we are going to hear a lot of shit from cowboy fan…fuck’em! cuz we’re #1
by Hangbok on May 17, 2010 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow...
I am highly surprised that we took top honors…..
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Hey, we're #1!!!
Nice to be at the top of something
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on May 18, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah i am tired of just being,
on top of [insert name here]’s mom…
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
[LeBron]
…if current media reports are to be believed.
by DisplacedTideFan on May 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure he'll get a new deal.
But I could still do without this.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 3:12 AM CDT reply actions
Not now...
I don’t like the timing. Should he be paid more than Marshall? Yes.
Should he even be mentioned in the same sentence as Marshall or Roy Williams? God no.
Marshall has never impressed me. Williams is a stone-fist hack who got his #1 WR job taken from him by an undrafted player from Monmouth.
Hopefully this gets resolved quickly and we can move on.
by HoustonTransplant on May 18, 2010 3:24 AM CDT reply actions
I'm going to summarize my feelings on the Andre Johnson situation in 7 words
It’s been nice knowing you Andre Davis.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I like that.
Shame that the Raiders seem to have come to their senses. Otherwise we could have gotten a first or second for him.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Now I'm going to summarize Andre Davis' reaction to the Andre Johnson situation in 6 words
“Who’s going to carry his jock?”
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Holliday could fit...
inside Black Ares’s jock so not him… i am going to vote that Kubes would gladly carry it.
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Okay, now I will summarize Brian Cushing's reaction to the Andre Johnson situation in 9 words
“I got you covered for the first four games…”
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I like ND Kalu's idea
Don’t change the compensation, instead, just garauntee the money in the contract.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
I am going
to poison your drink, and not tell you that i have built an immunity to it…
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Perhaps a BATTLE OF WITS?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on May 18, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course... it is mostly due to his avatar that made me think of that.
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Ok... here is another point i want to make.
This is OTA’s even if a deal is not hashed out prior to the Training Camp, Black Ares will be on the field @ training camp no doubt in my mind. Andre Johnson’s Work ethic and team mentality wont let him sit out like Dunta…
"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!
Do you think that part of what Andre is saying is...
“Oh, you drafted my replacement (in the 7th round) and want him to learn off me? Don’t think so….”
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Nope.
Because there’s no such thing as a replacement for Andre Johnson.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on May 18, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
BULL
Still has 5 years left on his contract. What happens when the Texans give him what he wants, which he deserves, then in 2 years another reciever is making more than him and he does this all over again. It is not the Texans fault he signed the contract that he did. This is where the “business” aspect of sports comes in, you sign the contract, now play and don’t cry.
They cut him if he underperforms he charges them when he overperforms. It's business.
by b0ng on May 18, 2010 12:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
So then maybe he should just
perform (like he has been) and get paid per the contract (like he has been). That seems like a good system to me.
This is BS.
Confucius say "man who enter door sideways going to Bangkok".

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