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Let's Get Greedy

Maybe it's because I was compared to an alleged rapist, or perhaps my recent run of awesome movies (Gone Baby Gone being the latest and no, this doesn't relate at all) has inspired me, or maybe I just miss writing on here, but I have the urge to do so. And finally, after a conversation with one of my good buddies, Aaron (I Love You, Man?), I have an interesting and fun topic to play around with, that being the contract drama many teams find themselves caught up in.

I'll preface by saying there won't be much Texans-related analysis involved since the likelihood of any of these players becoming a part of or affecting the team's season is less than 2%. However, these should serve as playful "what if" trade scenarios in your mind and at the very least bring you up to the speed with the latest disgruntled player news in the NFL (really, does that list ever end?). Take the jump. Do it.

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Here are the more noteworthy players who are selfish bastards whose salaries most others would kill to have looking for new deals, sorted by anger levels.

Chris Johnson, 2010 salary: $550,000, Anger level: Low

What It Means For Us (WIMFU [catchy, right?]): Probably nothing at all. Though Johnson will sit out mini-camps, no one within the organization seems concerned at all. Most seem to think he'll even return by training camp. From his most recent statement, it does seem that way: "My mind has been on one goal, to continue to be the best running back in the league. I’ve had a great offseason." Though terribly underpaid (relatively speaking, of course), the chances of Mr. 2000 being available for the Texans won't present itself.. unless of course, you put stock into this post by Chris. Never. Say. Never.

June 15th UPDATE: Johnson compared himself to Revis on Twitter and sounds more upset than ever. It looks like he's very angry after contract negotiations took place yesterday.

Miles Austin, 2010 salary: $3.168 million, Anger level: Low

WIMFU: Austin hasn't missed practices, signed his tender fairly early and has received nothing but support from Jerry Jones. He's booked to get a deal before the season and the Cowboys would never let him go. 'Dre and Austin? Nice thought.

Ray Edwards, 2010 salary: $2.521 million, Anger level: Low

WIMFU: I'm inclined to put Edwards on this mostly because I want to pose this question to BRB readers:  How much of what Edwards does can actually be attributed to Edwards? Not only is he playing next to the Williams Wall, the best defensive tackle tandem in the game, but he's also lining up opposite Jared Allen, one of the league's premier douchebags pass rushers. Is this guy even worth a long term deal? Could he duplicate his success (8.5 sacks last season) if he played on the Texans? Probably not, which is why he won't get a long term offer from anyone before the season. His situation means absolutely nothing to us.

Elvis Dumervil, 2010 salary: $3.168 million, Anger level: Low

WIMFU: Dumervil has done everything right since leading the league in sacks a year ago with 17. He's even showed up to mini-camps this week while expecting a new deal. Basically, he's the polar opposite of star babies Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall, yet the Broncos seemed to treat him in the same light when they threatened to reduce his tender early last week. The Broncos have no reason not to lock up Dumervil long term right away. They should be setting an example to their players with him:  Don't act like an ass, do your job and you'll be rewarded. The Broncos would never trade him and he's not the type to ask for an out. Sad face. He's probably not a great fit anyway, considering he mostly played OLB in a 3-4 scheme, but the team could get creative to use him. We all know, however, he would never, ever, replace Pro Bowl linebacker Zac Diles.

Jared Gaither, 2010 salary: $2.396 million, Anger level: Mild

WIMFU: The day after Gaither signed his first round tender, he sat out practices. He was moved to RT this off-season to make way for Michael Oher (The Blind Side was meh). Gaither was on the trading block a long time before signing his tender, so there is some (however slight) potential here. Would the Texans be willing to send draft picks his way? Gaither is just 24 years old and one of the best pass-blocking tackles in the league. Duane Brown would immediately be moved inside and suddenly we're a lot more confident about Schauby being able to stay upright. Would you surrender a first rounder for Gaither?

Carlos Rogers, 2010 salary offer: $1.542 million, Anger level: High

WIMFU: Out of all the players on the list, Rogers is the one I could most see in a Texans uniform (chances are still less than 5%) in 2010. Rogers was given an original pick tender by the Redskins after the season (the lowest tender offer) after getting benched in 2009. He was considered one of the brightest talents at his position in '08, however, and being benched by the Redskins doesn't mean much, considering Jim Zorn proved next to nothing as a talent evaluator. If the Redskins put him on the trading block, I'd be more than willing to give up a fourth round pick or lower for a former first rounder who has shown shut down ability, especially given our CB situation. Keep a close eye on this one.

Donald Penn, 2010 salary offer: $3.168 million, Anger level: High

WIMFU: Penn really had no reason to decline the first and third round tender offer he received, but he did just that yesterday. The Bucs have threatened to reduce their offer, which they will probably go through with. I can't see them putting Penn on the trade block over this, nor can I see them paying the big bucks for a solid, but nowhere near special, player. Whether or not Penn stages a training camp holdout is irrelevant, because he will be with the Bucs come Week One. For the sake of the "what if" game, if he were to become available, he's not worth what he's presumably asking for and arguably, at 27 years old, isn't that much of an upgrade over the 24 year old Duane Brown, factoring in potential.

Pierre Thomas, 2010 salary: $1.684 million, Anger level: Pissed

WIMFU: I wish this meant something. Though he has been a bit injury prone and streaky at times, he's been great for stretches the past few years. He showed off his elusiveness in the Super Bowl and has proved to be 20,348 times the RB that Reggie Bush was supposed to be. After last season, the Saints only offered a second round tender for Thomas, meaning they think pretty lowly of him. Thomas signed his tender, but he isn't happy at all. He could definitely hold out into training camp and he's one of the few players on this list that has reason to do so. Thomas, Slaton, Tate. That sounds like a hell of a RB competition to me. If only.

Darrelle Revis, 2010 salary: $550, 000, Anger level: Very high

WIMFU: Most recently, Revis sat out specific practices at Jets mini-camp. His excuse--a light head. Not only does Revis want a new contract greater than the largest ever for a cornerback (Nnamdi Asomugha re-upped with the Raiders for a whopping $45 million last year), he wants it by training camp or he won't show. We do play the Jets this year, but unless Revis plans on staging a holdout greater than eleven weeks into the season, the intriguing Hard Knocks storyline probably doesn't mean much for us. Can you imagine if Dunta was actually as good as Revis? How much would he have asked for then?

Vincent Jackson, 2010 salary offer: $3.168 million, Anger level: BFD drunken rage

WIMFU: I'm not sure what V-Jax is thinking. He's likely facing a four game suspension to start the season stemming from a suspended license incident in January. Instead of playing out this season with reasonable pay and receive a contract next year, V-Jax and his teammate Marcus McNeil are preparing to sit out the first ten games of the season. Chargers GM A.J. Smith is one of the most stubborn GMs in the league and will not give in to either player's demands. The Chargers will likely chose to fine the players rather than entertain offers for them, but Dre + V-Jax = death for opposing defenses. Smith will reduce both Jackson's and McNeil's salary today.

Marcus McNeil, 2010 salary offer: $3.168 million, Anger level: BFD drunken rage

WIMFU: Almost the exact same situation as Jackson. McNeil is one of the best LTs in the league, but he won't get a contract from Smith like this. Both of these dramas will drag on far into the season. In the money-free fantasy world we sometimes choose to live in, McNeil would be sweet. Similar to the Chargers smith, however, McNeil would never get a contract from the Texans' Smith without showing up to practice.

Logan Mankins, 2010 salary offer: $1.54 million, Anger level: BFD drunken rage

WIMFU: Mankins has officially reached all out b**ch mode and the Pats are playing serious hardball. As soon as allowed, the team reduced its tender offer from what was originally $3.268 million to the number you see above. Harsh. According to the Boston Globe, however, the team did want to make him one of the top five richest at his position. Very Duntaesque move by Mankins, which isn't good. Mankins had this to say about rejoining the Pats: "I don't need to be here anymore." This potentially is one of the few situations that actually has some relevance to the Texans (but not really). With Chester Pitts presumably not returning to the team, Kasey Studdard is still slated as the Texans' starting left guard heading into training camp. Mankins is an infinitely superior option should he become available. The team won't pony up the money for him, but it's an intriguing thought.

So, there you have it. Hope you're all caught up with the contract grumblings in the NFL. Which player do you see as the best fit/most likely to join the Texans' playoff campaign in 2010?

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I like the idea of Mankins

But if Chester is up to snuff after his healing process, I would rather have a guy with a good attitude. I would also be looking for a good interior o-lineman, after the last round of cuts come sept.

You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB

by Texans-Brocos on Jun 15, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean to say Mankins doesn't have a good attitude?

Gasp!

"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady

Still waiting...

by DreKeem on Jun 15, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw Pitts at the airport on Friday

And judging by his slight limp he might be some time away from being healed. He also looks lean, he would be suitable for tight end only at this point. I didn’t want to ask about the Texans since I figured he gets enough of that, just thanked him for everything he did for the team.

On an unrelated note, I was on the same flight with LDJ, age 12, on the way to Denver. He was with his wife and daughter….and I gotta say….he might be the best looking of the three.

by ~Buck on Jun 16, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

OMG LOL you're brutal
On an unrelated note, I was on the same flight with LDJ, age 12, on the way to Denver. He was with his wife and daughter….and I gotta say….he might be the best looking of the three.

by BattleRedFan on Jun 16, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

They let them ride in coach?

I thought you had to put animals in cargo.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Jun 16, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Animals in cargo

Babies in coach

"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady

Still waiting...

by DreKeem on Jun 16, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would trade for Revis and pay him top CB money in a second.

Dude’s arguably one of the best defensive players in the league.

 /dreams of Revis shutting down his side of Reliant Stadium.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 15, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

nah not arguably

he is one of the top defensive players in the game ;)

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore

by HB23 on Jun 16, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

According to Revis...

his latest offer from the Jets had $0 guaranteed.

Heck, I got $20 with his name on it if Rick Smith pulls the trigger on it.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 16, 2010 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mankins would be a good move.

And Dumervil “did everything right” until he started asking for $65 million.

by krkenney on Jun 15, 2010 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

He's only asking for Suggs money

and after 4 productive years, Elvis has earned it.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 15, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suggs is a more complete player

Dumervil is an elite pass-rusher who cannot play the run or play in coverage.

by krkenney on Jun 15, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would take Elvis over

Suggs or Mario. I watched every Broncos game last year and he is the best 4-3 DE, 3-4 OLB in the game!

You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB

by Texans-Brocos on Jun 15, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're insane.

He’s one of the best pass-rushers in the game… but there is quite a bit more to starting in the NFL—and deserving $65 million—than just getting sacks.

by krkenney on Jun 15, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also,

Mario has significantly improved his run-stopping ability. Also, didn’t he have some sort of injury last year?

by typhoon.infamous on Jun 16, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Thanks for the interesting read, man.

I’ve actually been thinking about this kind of stuff, but I don’t keep up with the entire league enough to actually get this much information together.

Good on ya, mate

Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.

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by Autra on Jun 15, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Get Gaither!

Move Duane inside to guard and leave Winston out at RT.

Yeah right, I know. Don’t know about a 1st round pick though. Kind of steep considering how Smithiak has been drafting so far.

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Jun 15, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Dunno about the first or second

I’d gladly give a 3 for any of these guys except Penn, especially since we’ll probably have 2 of them next year thanks to Dunta.

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Jun 15, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep seeing "Move Brown Inside"

It seems to come up once a month at least…yet no one has ever explained why they think Brown would be better inside than at T. Brown was drafted because of his athleticism and the fact that he matches closely with the prototype for a LT. He’s a guy with the quickness and long arms that teams like on the QB’s blind side…not a grind it our brawler in the middle.

I’m not saying it wouldn’t work….I would just like to see people’s explanation for why “Move Brown to Guard” seems like such a sure thing.

"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair

by papabear on Jun 16, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beastly run blocking + Great measureables + Subpar pass blocking = Guard

Thats my equation.

(Not saying he can’t improve again this season, but I don’t think it’s that far-fetched of an idea.)

- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter

by riversmccown on Jun 16, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it could work

It’s just thrown out so much that it seems like some people just assume that you can take a below average tackle and move him to guard and he’ll be just fine. He’s a good run blocker on DE’s, but does he have the strength to battle inside with DT’s and maybe the occasional NT (a real one-not one of our 290lb versions)? Are his longish arms going to do him any good inside? I know the zone system negates some of this because the emphasis is more on the athletic stuff, but it’s still something I would worry about.

Not that it matters in this “what if” game, but I do think Brown has shown improvement throughout his career. Even if it hasn’t been at quite the pace we would have liked. For guy who only had one year at LT before being drafted he still has the chance to develop into a player we are happy with. If we could have/can upgrade his spot that’s fine though.

 I also think it is funny that on draft day every one talks about needing three years to evaluate a draft class….but is then ready to start showing guys the door after a year or maybe two (just speaking in general, not calling anyone out….I do it too).

"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair

by papabear on Jun 16, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

RB...

Fiddin’ to be a strength. If wasn’t already heading that way – Moats would’ve never been cut so early.

by carsonwayne on Jun 15, 2010 8:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Gotta agree

Although I’d have thought for sure Johnson and especially Henry would’ve gone first. That’s been said, but I guess Kubiak really was looking to make things fair-er for him by giving him a chance to catch on somewhere before Training Camp.

by krkenney on Jun 15, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Plus, he’ll find more playing time elsewhere since we drafted Tate and Foster’s play at the end of last year really helped our run game.

by typhoon.infamous on Jun 16, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Kubes knew what he had with Moats

Henry and Johnson are still unknowns. Since all three of them would have been fighting for a roster spot I think Kubiak decided to figure out what he has in Johnson and Henry rather than keeping Moats around buried on the depth chart only to have to cut him later anyway.

"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair

by papabear on Jun 16, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd just because of the BFD drunken rage.

"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley

by bone31crusher on Jun 15, 2010 10:18 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Going for Carlos Rogers wouldn't be a bad idea either

We need to apply the same philosophy to DBs as we do to TEs

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Jun 16, 2010 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not so sure on Rogers

He and LaRon Landry seemed lost out there sometimes. The ‘skins D wasn’t their weakest link last season. Landy does have speed to cover the field which he needed

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Jun 16, 2010 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

seems lost at times?

so what words do you use to describe dunta?

Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.

by BattleRedHusker on Jun 16, 2010 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

We kind of do

We have picked up CBs in every draft.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has anyone ever actually seen BFD's drunken rage?

Or is it something mythical like bigfoot, unicorns, or Schaubs personality?

Jacoby is my ghostwriter.

by Salad on Jun 16, 2010 12:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Do nightmares count?

Because it truly is a nightmare.

"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady

Still waiting...

by DreKeem on Jun 16, 2010 1:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

HA!

It’s more mythical at this point, considering I lean toward Buddhism.

Except when watching football games or writing code. Then, all bets are off.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Jun 16, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guess who wants a traaaaaaade

Our favorite disgruntled fat ass: Albert Haynesworth. Any one interested?

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 16, 2010 2:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I can kill you know right?

Thats allowed when someone asks about trading for Haynesworth yes?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do it.

As long as it’s not overly expensive

Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.

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by Autra on Jun 16, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

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