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Jarrad Page: Completing the Exodus of Solid Defensive Backs from KC to Houston?



As any Texans fan can attest, Bernard Pollard changed everything about this defense. Before coming to Houston, he was renowned as the guy who freed the league of the Patriots for a year a guy who could lay the wood but couldn't cover, but after arriving here and reuniting with his former coach David Gibbs, he seemed to "get it," almost immediately becoming an impact player  and a defensive leader for this team, improving the secondary's ability to cover and play the run immensely. It seemed as though one team's trash in Pollard was our treasure.

Enter Jarrad Page. After a tumultuous offseason in which he and the team seemed to be at odds with one another constantly in terms of a long-term deal, Page has officially requested to be traded away from the Kansas City Chiefs. Could lightning strike twice for Houston?

Aside from the Schaub trade, Kubiak and Smith have both seemed entirely unwilling to trade for players, preferring to stock up through middle-grade free agent pick-ups and carefully watched draftees. However, it's doubtful Kansas City will let Page hit the open market without compensation after watching Pollard blow up in Houston. It's no secret that Free Safety and safety depth in general are weak points for the team. Eugene Wilson has quietly been our most consistent and reliable coverage man since joining the team, but he is getting older and is constantly injured. That leaves us with Dominique Barber, who was a large part of the worst defense over a three-game-stretch in league history, and Troy Nolan, who has never played in the NFL after spending his entire rookie season on IR.

So, knowing that no Texans official will ever read this or take anything I have to say into account, let's make a case for trading for Page.

His numbers speak for themselves for the most part:

Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 Kansas City Chiefs 5 5 19 19 0 0.0 -- 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1
2008 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 85 63 22 0.0 -- 12 4 2 0.5 2 0 2
2007 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 59 43 16 0.0 -- 6 3 37 12.3 37 0 1
2006 Kansas City Chiefs 16 2 35 30 5 1.0 -- 5 3 30 10.0 30 0 0
TOTAL 198 155 43 1.0 0 25 10 69 -- 37 0 4

He was injured last season, but entering the 2009 season had been the best ballhawk at safety from the 2006 draft class, a class that includes Michael Huff, Donte Whitner, Danieal Manning, Roman Harper, our own Bernard Pollard, Dawan Landry and Antoine Bethea. Page is turning 26 before this season, making him a young candidate to greatly strengthen our "back end" as Kubiak so eloquently calls it.

Obviously, I think it's worth the trade. Safeties aren't particularly valuable in terms of trade value, either, and considering the clearance-sale prices that major players have gone for this offseason, I suspect he could be had for a very reasonable price. What says BRB about appropriate compensation? What would you be willing to give up? What could we offer that Kansas City might be interested in? Would you be in favor of bringing in Jarrad Page?

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He's nearly got as many INTs in 3 years...

as Eugene Wilson does in 7 years. He also has decent tackling stats. I’d be in favor of adding someone to the FS position to push Wilson. For me, it’s the biggest position of concern.

If BP gave an endorsement of Page then I’d give away a low-round draft pick (4-7). I wouldn’t give more because the Chiefs really have no leverage in the situation. You’ve got an unhappy player who wants out.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 22, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I second

Low draft pick. Lets get him and make him happy.

Their disgruntled has been our diamond in the past.

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by HoustonTransplant on Jun 22, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd disagree with the whole

“We did well with a KC safety in the past” reasoning. That’s like saying let’s just draft Miami (FL) Wide Receivers because Andre’s a futuer HOFer. Each talent should be evaluated individually.

If former teammate Bernard Pollard says that Page would succeed in the Texans defensive scheme then I’d be down. Pollard’s opinion would go a long way really.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 22, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't saying KC

I said disgruntled. Foster was a bit miffed he wasn’t drafted. Gave us a couple solid games and is, thus far, the starter.

Pollard was not happy at all in KC. We all know how that one turned out. I do agree with a Pollard endorsement would be nice to have.

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by HoustonTransplant on Jun 23, 2010 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I f David Gibbs was former coach for Pollard, wouldn't he be former coach for Page, also?

I would ask Gibbs.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 23, 2010 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Forgot about that. Good point.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 23, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

5-7 Maybe?

Would 7 years of Eugene Wilson over 3 years be worth a 4th?

Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.

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by Autra on Jun 22, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

True...

We love spending those 4ths on TEs. Safety isn’t worth a TE. Nothing is really. Oh the beauty of a TE…

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jun 22, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

TE Answer Haiku

We’re wily and wise!
It’is never enough!
Two dozen would be too few!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 23, 2010 1:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sheesh

Format here is wrong
Five, then seven, and then five
Tight ends sure are great

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by Autra on Jun 23, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

you need to read it using a Texan dialect....

There are two syllables in “It”

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 27, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the last line?

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by Autra on Jun 27, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You need to recalculate it

using Texas public-school math.

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by MDC on Jun 28, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pshh, I was homeschooled

I don’t know any math.

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by Autra on Jun 28, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thing to keep in mind

… is that KC has practically no leverage in this situation. Think “Houston Texans trying to trade David Carr after acquiring Matt Schaub”-type leverage.

by krkenney on Jun 22, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Man wants to get paid.

OJ Atogwe, free agent, costs nothing, and also wants to be paid.

While I appreciate the out of the box thinking, I’ll take the player who doesn’t cost anything but money to get.

Also, the Texans will pick neither of them, sadly.

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by riversmccown on Jun 23, 2010 12:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Scratch that idea...

I would like Jarrad Page…

Earl Campbell is the perfect combination of assmass and weightspeed. - Papabear

by Schlauton on Jun 23, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

if gibbs or pollard speak up for the guy

how about some kind of 3 way trade?
we’ve got a few tight ends lying around here somewhere. I bet we could trade some of those to someone who needs them in exchange for something KC needs.

LOL just goofing around. Probably a bad idea. Would be funny if it worked though.

by BattleRedFan on Jun 23, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The problem with all of this

Is that our coaches seem to like the players we have. I’m sure they are aware that Wilson is an injury risk, which means they must like Nolan and Barber, or have the mind to convert some of our cbs to safety fodder.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

we just had these talks

with Oj Otogwe and nothing came of it, now he resigned with ST Louis. As much as I dont trust the list of names we have at the FS spot, I dont see Smithiak making a move here. Even though after reading BFDs proposed roster post, FS is a spot where we could add Page and cut a lot of dead weight to make room for some other players.

by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 25, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

The difference is...

… that Page is one of Kubiak’s “guys.” Up until Rex Ryan’s recent moves, I’ve never seen a coach deliberately pursue players strictly on the basis of familiarity. If Page hits the open market, he is much more likely to receive the team’s interest for the simple fact that he played under David Gibbs.

If you look at it seriously, the number of players who have come to Houston over the last three or four years strictly for the reason of having played in Denver, Seattle, or Green Bay is staggering.

Kubiak puts familiarity at a premium, and I think that is what makes Page a likely candidate to be a Houston Texan should he leave KC.

by krkenney on Jun 25, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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