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Prognostibating: The 53-Man Roster, Take 1 - The Defense

Working off the first part in this mini-series that makes "The Thorn Birds" look serious, we're going to take a look at my guesses for the 53-man roster, with those on the defense gettin' their turns in this episode.  If you missed it, here's The Offense.  In the next installment, and somewhat by popular request (if one person inquires about it, that makes it popular, right?  RIGHT????), we'll do an additional installment on Special Teams along with a PaRappa Rapper wrap-up.  Let's look at my opinations at who makes the 53-man roster on defense after the jiggidy jump!

Star-divide

DE: Connor Barwin, Tim Bulman, Pannel Egboh, Tim Jamison, Jesse Nading, Antonio Smith, Mitch Unrein, Mario Williams

DE Thoughts: Yes, I think we'll carry six DEs, primarily because our DTs make me want to cry.  In addition, both Smith and Bulman can play inside, especially under Frank Bush where any player under 290 190 is a legit threat at DT.

DT: Shaun Cody, Earl Mitchell, Frank Okam, Amobi Okoye, DelJuan Robinson, Malcolm Sheppard

DT Thoughts: What, no Jeff Zgonina?  No Cankles?  No, the only guy who makes me look fast?  Well, no, now that you mention it.  Until he's under contract - and it almost seems inevitable in a zombie kind of way - Zgonina won't be on the team.  This leaves an absolutely underwhelming crew to man DT for us.  As solid as DE looks, DT is a glaring weakness, Earl Mitchell or not.

LB: Kevin Bentley, Darnell Bing (really???), Danny Clark, Brian Cushing, Zac Diles, Isaiah Greenhouse, DeMeco Ryans, Darryl Sharpton, Xavier Adibi

LB Thoughts: Historically, we've carried six LBs, but I'm leaving a seventh on here for now.  With Cushing's suspension over the first four games, I believe we'll see a battle over the last spot once Cushing returns between Danny Clark and Xavier Adibi.  Adibi has firmly established himself as leader of the Kubiak Doghouse (Alpha division), and unless he has compromising pictures of at least two coaches, I think Clark survives when Cushing returns.  I do not agree with this, however, as I would love to see Adibi get a real opportunity to win a job.  Especially at Will.  *cough*

S: Dominique Barber, Troy Nolan, Nicholas Polk, Aaron Webster, Torri Williams, Eugene Wilson, Bernard Pollard

S Thoughts: As I've heard many times after sex: you mean that's it?  I continue to be awed, simply dumbfounded, by our lack of desire to address our obvious yet gaping hole at FS.  This isn't necessarily a jab at Wilson, but the fact is we won't get 16 games out of him.  Or 12, really.  Six?

Fact is, leaving even Nolan on the roster is a stretch.  We normally carry about five safeties, and aside from Barber, Wilson, and Pollard, we don't have another safety who screams keeper.  I don't know if we believe a FS along the lines of Pollard will magically be cut, but Texans management must do more to address this problem.  Or, possibly, we believe that playing with 10 guys and leaving John Busing and Brian Russell off the field is a legitimate improvement.  I, for one, can buy that logic.

CB: Fred Bennett, Brice McCain, Sherrick McManis, Antwaun Molden, Mark Parson, Glover Quin, Jacques Reeves, Kareem Jackson

CB Thoughts: In my "primary" fantasy baseball league, we have a theory about trades.  Ya see, when one team offers the other team a whole stream of crap for a single player (like a 4-for-1 deal), we call it a "Conglomeration of Shit" deal.  I get that feeling when looking at our CBs.  Except, I actually, and oddly, see hope.

McCain, Quin, Reeves, and Jackson are a really intriguing bunch.  Sadly, Reeves excels in man coverage, and we utilize some zone type thingy stuff I've never really been able to de-code.  Mostly, because it sucks.  McCain had flashes last year, and I am a total Glover Quin fan-boy.  Jackson might be ready to step in and start immediately, which is nice considering how we're counting on him to step in and start immediately.  We normally carry four or five CBs, depending on the situation and depth.  I'm already up to four keepers.

This leaves Bennett, McManis, and Molden.  I know I'm not the only one who would like to see Molden given a real, legitimate shot to start, even at nickel or dime.  McManis, "they" claim, will stick at CB.  And then there's the Ballhawk Gamecock Toasty Munchins Fred Bennett.  With a fairly clear four-deep at CB, and a frightening dearth of talent at S, McManis and Bennett are legitimate shots to move there. 

There's going to be a true battle royale with cheese in the secondary this year.  It should make for some fine entertainment, and as long as Petey and Dunta are gone...well, we should be better off.  For now, my money is on McManis making the team at S, bringing our total number of defensive backs to nine.

Summary: On offense, I filled 26 slots.  So far, of defense, I've got 26.  Wow, that's 52!  We don't need a punter or kicker or anything!  Or else, I address this issue in our next installment.  Stay tuned!

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Zombie Jeff

Zgonina over Okam…not because I want it, but because Zgonina is immortal. I also hope for Nolan.

by JimboTexan on Jun 28, 2010 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't hold your breath on Zgonina returning...

Unless you were from South Oklahoma and, for whatever odd reason, you were obsessed with old skinny Texan DTs

I see it breaking down: 5 DEs, 5 DTs, 6 LBs (and pray to Durga no one gets hurt early), 4 FS/SSs, 6 CBs for 26. Same number, just in different areas. Don’t really know who….but, talent wise, the defense definitely lacks in depth compared to the offense.

As for the kicker/punter….are we planning on bribing Alex Henery (the dude from Nebraska) to come to the pros now? Cause that’s an idea chock full o’ win.

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by TexansDC on Jun 28, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and I hope you're faster than Okam....

you’re our emegency plan for FS since no one wants to bring back Russell or Busing.

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by TexansDC on Jun 28, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who do you see getting the nod as the 4th S?

Troy Nolan?

…and who else gets cut from the list of DEs? Nading or Jamison?

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by Autra on Jun 28, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both Jamison and Nading don't inspire confidence....

It’d have been nice if they had drafted a late-round DE, but either or….doesn’t matter.

Nolan would get the nod from me. He’s had a good off-season apparently. I mean, if they’re adamant on keeping McManis at CB then they need another safety especially given how many they went through last season.

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by TexansDC on Jun 28, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was Nading on PS last season?

Is he eligible to be put there again?

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by Autra on Jun 28, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Careful with saying that name, "Zgonina"

If you say it three times, click your heals, and then roll over onto a football with a look of wide-eyed astonishment, as in “Look what I found!”…he will re-appear!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 29, 2010 9:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You make the strangest cuts.

There is almost no way Okam AND Robinson make the team over Sheppard. Carrying only 3 safeties?

Not as bad as having Holliday make the roster over Shelley Smith, but I really don’t see the roster going this way.

by krkenney on Jun 28, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Curious

Did you actually read the post? Where I had multiple CBs moving to S?

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 28, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I read it

And I’d like your inside scoop that contradicts the coaches stating that they were “satisfied with our safety position” and explicitly stated at certain questions that no corners would be moved.

If a corner was going to be moved, they’d have moved Bennett to SS two seasons ago. They said McManis was NOT drafted to play safety, that they like Nolan and Barber as depth, and Antwaun Molden has been as high as our Nickel corner when healthy. The current depth chart as I’ve seen it has Reeves behind both Molden and McCain.

by krkenney on Jun 28, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a bandwagoner for all things undrafted

I have as much love for Mr. Sheppard as anyone.

But come on, he’s an undrafted rookie. I know he has had some great press so far, but he’s more untouchable than Okam and Robinson because he had some good OTA’s? Dial it back a little. Or at least give some conclusive proof that OTA hype has meant something for the Texans.

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by riversmccown on Jun 29, 2010 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

That proof doesn't exist

you know that…

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 29, 2010 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we're to believe that Amobi Okoye

… the most productive defensive tackle this team has had under Gary Kubiak, is in trouble for his starting position, I’m willing to bet do-nothings DelJuan Robinson and Frank Okam are equally as capable of losing their job. Sheppard shouldn’t have gone undrafted and is the sort of tackle Kollar likes. I believe it’s perfectly reasonable he’ll make the team over Okam.

by krkenney on Jun 29, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Robinson

Has been pretty effective as a reserve DT for us and Okam will likely make the team because we need his girth at least as a reserve for the goaline/short yardage defense. Sheppard is the same type of player as Okoye and Mitchell… I think he’ll be doing good to make the practice squad.

by Bryan72076 on Jun 29, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, I think it's perfectly reasonable that he'll make the team.

Plausible, if you will.

I just don’t think it’s plausible that “there is almost no way” he doesn’t make the team.

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by riversmccown on Jun 29, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Deljuan

But there’s a real ceiling there.

by JimboTexan on Jun 29, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's see... where to start... the top?

DEs – I think there is a little voice inside of you saying that six DEs is too much and you are refusing to listen to it…. does it sound like Kubiak? Is it possible you are confusing DE with TE?

DTs – good call there. Not much to argue over.

LBs – good call

Ss – that gets a Jim Rome ehhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! There has to be four at this position. I would rec’ Troy Nolan for this spot.

CBs – I like this call.

Okay, that covers it. Lose a DE and since you seem to sentimental to make that cut, I’ll do it for you. Nading! Sorry son, but your weight speed just doesn’t cut it, so you ARE the weakest link, goodbye!

And, Nolan, welcome to the Texans. You have one more year to do something….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 28, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Totally plausible

I just don’t think Nolan wins a spot. So, it’s why I think a couple CBs move to S. If you’re Bennett sized, it’s not unreasonable.

And, yes, I follow Nading on Twitter. Heh.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 28, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suspected

I was just checking this Nading kid out today, having nothing to do with this thread. I don’t really know much about him, except he was not drafted and he is 6’-5" and hovers around 260. Just a tad bigger than Schaub and we already have one of those in Barwin, who I believe has superior speed, strength and experience. Nading is bubbly. So, don’t tweet him too hard!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 28, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

Kubiak forgot Nolan’s name last year. I like him (because god knows we need safeties) and would like him on the team, but I’m skeptical about it.

by JimboTexan on Jun 29, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I don’t think LB Danny Clark makes it, I don’t think two out of DelJuan Robinson/Jessee Nading/Tim Jaimison makes it, and I think Sheppard does.

I don’t see zombie zgonina makes it either but we will have to wait and see.

by b0ng on Jun 28, 2010 11:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Clark

They signed Clark, specifically, to battle for Cushing’s spot the first four games. Plus, we do have a tendency to keep older LBs around (Thompson, Bentley, Khary Campbell, for example). But we’re just as thin at LB as we are at S.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 29, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clark

Will make the team…Frankly, I think they probably like him more then Adibi.

by JimboTexan on Jun 29, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I vote for a special teams wrap up!

And it better be good, or else i’ll be using goat skin condoms instead of that sissy latex stuff. Anyways, im with you on Dr. Evil(Okam) filling a spot on the DT rotation. If they’ve kept him for this long, why would they cut him now. Just like Okoye, this might be his final shot to stay in the roster. For DE, I don’t think we’ll be keeping Matt’s favorite defensive end. I just don’t see the need for a DE that runs slower than JaMarcus Russel. I apologize for responding in Bryan46557678’s old format. Damn phone won’t let me hit enter.

by Jordann on Jun 29, 2010 2:07 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

wait

you think only three safeties make it? Even for the Texans, thats crazy. There will be at least one more safety.

Also: Molden and Okam both get cut.

by killtacular on Jun 29, 2010 2:27 AM CDT reply actions  

oh wait

I kinda skimmed the end of the CB thing. I suppose if one of those CBs moves to safety, that might make sense in an insane sort of way. But Molden and Okam are still both gone, and there is no way it really makes sense for Bennett to be put at safety. I mean, that is a “lets get an UDFA in here who was a CB and see how they do at safety” type of move, not something that will work with Bennett. You say McManis, and I have no idea there, so maybe, but still: no way the Texans go with only four CBs and four safeties, as I think I have you now. At least one more.

by killtacular on Jun 29, 2010 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

crap!

why is thinking so hard when you drink? I blame God.

I suppose you do have 5 CBs even with McManis moving to safety. So … I retract everything I said. Except that Molden gets cut, which screws everything up.

by killtacular on Jun 29, 2010 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

You clearly need more beer when posting :-)

I agree, actually, with lot of what you’re saying. Something has to be done about S, but aside from Nolan – and he’s never actually see game time as a Texan – I don’t think any of those guys are realistic. Bennett doesn’t seem to be a logical fit, either, but he does have the size and ball skills to slide over to FS.

Okam? Well, with Zgonina gone, his chances are much better to make the team. Okam, though, is only one of two big bodied DTs on the team (with DelJuan). Between the lack of depth and that, it’s why I have us keeping him.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 29, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

You forget

That we despise big bodied DTs.

by JimboTexan on Jun 29, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya

all that makes sense.

Except when have two big bodied DTs when you can have only one??? Answer me that.

by killtacular on Jul 3, 2010 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Polk could be something

…but likely not until next year. My guess is they hide him on the practice squad or I.R.. I still would like to see what Nolan can do. He broke his hand in camp and was stashed on the IR. I really would like to see what he can do. Most of the reports on him were positive in his limited time. He will basically be a rookie this year…except he has had a whole year as part of the program.

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by papabear on Jun 29, 2010 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Scouting report on Nolan

Which seems pretty good:
http://monstersofthemidwayillustrated.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/prospect-preview-safety-troy-nolan/

Going off this, it seems he stands a chance. What I liked best about him was he makes plays. But he’s also slow-ish and doesn’t seem to be good in coverage.

That said, it’s not like the team really stresses “normal” FS skills from our FSs, so there’s that.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

And, for the record, I never saw him play. Screw the Pac 10.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just as excited about seeing Nolan as I am any of the other rookies

…because I haven’t had the chance to get a feel for him yet. I have no idea if he will be any good. I know he had a knack for making plays. Sometimes that’s just luck. Some guys just have a feel for it. I think he was a 4.6 guy which isn’t ideal….but is probably at a minimum on par with Wilson at this point. So if he can get to the point where he can just react without thinking that should be good enough. Good size and supposedly a big hitter. It’s not that I don’t like Wilson. I loved him as a stopgap, but we need to have a plan to replace him. The coaches seem to love Barber even though I’m not sold yet.

As for Polk…LZ said he thinks he has a chance to be a starter one day…I really have nothing else to go on.

It’s amazing to me that the Texans still apparently are unwilling to put a lot of resources into finding safeties. How many years has improved safety play helped turn around a struggling defense. Demps, Wilson, Pollard…all were an improvement over what we had and all of them helped to at least slow the bleeding on defense after rough starts.

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by papabear on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd imagine

If you clocked most safeties in the NFL now in the 40 most would run a 4.6 or slower.

He’s still a late round drafted rookie for the most part as he missed almost the entire season last year. The coaches may say they’re happy with him as a 4th safety, but with Wilson on the team you pretty much know at some point he’s going to be #3 and with a bad break he could even be in the starting lineup and there’s no certainty he’ll even remain healthy… No matter how he looks in practice, that thought would wake me up in the night shatting the bed if I were coach. I think we need at least 5 safeties to protect against injuries as 2 of our top 4 safeties missed pretty much all of last season with injury.

by Bryan72076 on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

You don’t need to be blazingly fast to be a FS, you just need to study and able to read the offense (see: Sharper, Darren).

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by TexansDC on Jun 29, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's not a Rookie

That’s the problem…I like him too, I think they’ll stash him again at the very least. Eventually we’re going to have to draft a real safety, but it probably won’t be for another year or two.

by JimboTexan on Jun 29, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan can get points if he just doesn't take himself OUT of plays....

That seemed to be an issue early in the season last year and diminished after Pollard appeared.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 29, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

You mean, somebody is supposed to cover Chris Johnson?

Wow. I just don’t know what to believe in anymore.

Heh.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 29, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

If someone can just be in the same zip code, that would be a plus....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 29, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd this...

just because it made me snort Dr. Pepper out my nose.

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Jun 30, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm confused

Not that that’s unusual, but Nolan Nolan broke his hand in Early August(I think). I don’t think he had the chance to take himself out of plays.

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by papabear on Jun 29, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe he was referring to our Ss in general

Not necessarily Nolan. Or, Nolan Nolan, which appears to be your pet name for him. Though there’s nothing wrong with that. Kinda cute, even.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 29, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

usually I just call him snuggle-muffin

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by papabear on Jun 29, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, i was talking about the Safeties in general

Nolan Nolan hasn’t had a chance to lose his bearings on the field of play, yet.

Just as important as physical abilities is field awareness for the FS position. He is the last stopper on plays that are blown at the other lines of defense. He’s the centerfielder backing up the infield and the other outfielders. I want the guy to play some this preseason so we can see for ourselves if he has that quality that, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, we all saw on his youtube videos. Sure, that vid includes his best plays of his collegE career played over and over from different directions, but its all we can go on at this point. I never saw him on TV.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Jun 29, 2010 1:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

huh?

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dude…. stop sounding like big blue boob you scared me there! thought this thread was hi-jacked! lol

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by chrisd21 on Jun 29, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Close

But I was a couple beers in when I finished this. HAHAHA!

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by bigfatdrunk on Jun 29, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

/pokes BFD with a stick
…and I am a total Glover Quin fan-boy.

Every once in a while, you should trust me over your “friend who saw him play a few games in college”.

Now, if only there was a way to link to that website where you professed your hatred of the pick last year….

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