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After Tate Injury, Henry & Johnson Probably Can't Help But Smile

It's easy to see why even the Titans got so frustrated with Chris Henry. All the talent in the world, but no Football IQ. He better figure it out quickly...

When Ben Tate was carted off the field Saturday night and most Texans fans were pretty upset (don't lie, it wasn't just me), two guys in Texans uniforms probably had to be smiling on the inside. Those two guys would be running backs Chris Henry and Jeremiah Johnson.

Unlike other people, Battle Red Blog tries not to report on the severity of injury news until there has been official word from the team or a doctor. Regardless of what other people think, we don't want to become an unreliable source of Texans news. Yes, we are a blog. But with how atrocious the local media can be on coverage, we'd like to still be an outlet for those who seek to know what's really going on with the team. We'd like to not become just a bunch of guys trying to break a story on Twitter. With that said, we now know that Tate will be lost for the season, as Coach Kubiak said yesterday that he will be placed on IR.

Now, with that done, the running back competition is down to four guys. Arian Foster, Steve Slaton, Chris Henry and Jeremiah Johnson. We all know by now that Foster is in and is probably the starter in Week One against Indy. There is virtually no scenario where Slaton doesn't make the team. Not even if he puts the ball on the ground three more times in the preseason. He will be on the final 53 man roster. As far as the other two guys, this is where the real tug of war begins.

Let's take a look after the jump...

Star-divide

To me, it's a given that the team doesn't bring another guy in to compete for a roster spot, at least not right away.  I don't anticipate that happening until other teams make their final cuts in early September to get down to 53; anyone else they would bring in prior to that would likely be just a camp body. Not really anyone out there right now, but we'll see.

It has been pretty much a foregone conclusion amongst those following these things that Gary Kubiak is unlikely to carry four running backs. And even if you aren't an accountant, someone as "intelligent" as Chris Henry can figure out that there is still one last guy to hurdle for a roster spot.

In looking at the impending battle between the talented Chris Henry and the undrafted second-year man who spent his entire 2009 season on the IR in Jeremiah Johnson, who has the leg up? After only one preseason game and in my personal opinion, it is JJ. I know it is early, and it's hard to judge Henry off of just two carries for six yards, but sometimes a small sample size can be enough.

Henry has all the tools and talent to be a stud running back in the NFL. His physique is ridiculous and he hits the corner maybe faster than any back currently on the roster. But the label that has been tagged on him since he came into the league is that he looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane. The guy just seems to have such a low football IQ. The game on Saturday showed it, as he looked simply lost out there at times. At this point, it's hard to imagine the light just coming on and him figuring it out anytime soon. This scheme may be too much for him to learn.

Johnson, on the other hand, looked like a guy who could really help this team now. Yes, it is no secret that I have been a supporter of JJ since he was signed by Houston after being undrafted in 2009. The guy was a stud at Oregon and the only reason he wasn't drafted was because of an injury that caused him to miss his entire rookie campaign. John Harris and others have stated that he is the best downhill runner on the team and has incredible footwork.  Although we are yet to see it in the pros yet, his stiff arm is a force to be reckoned with. And he certainly looked much better in the preseason debut than Henry, carrying the ball five times and gaining a team high 35 yards rushing. The only thing, in my opinion, that is keeping him from being a lock to make the team is his pass-protection skills. If he improves upon that, we may be looking at a roster that has two undrafted running backs in Foster and Johnson on its depth chart.

With these two guys expected to see most of the workload against the defending champion Saints (it still hurts me to type that) this weekend, now would be the time to impress the hell out of the Texans coaching staff.  Let's just try to stay healthy, okay guys? Because we're one more injury away from one (or both) of them making the roster by default.

What do you guys think? Who would you like to see make the team as the third running back? Jeremiah? Chris Henry? Or....someone else?

Poll
Who would you like to see make the roster as the third running back?
Jeremiah Johnson
451 votes
Chris Henry
105 votes
Lendale White (You know Denver will cut him...)
58 votes
Bring Back Chris Brown (Instant Ban for anyone who picks this)
24 votes
Whoever Denver or Washington cut off their final roster
48 votes

686 votes | Poll has closed

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Johnson for sure!

I agree, all it takes is one or two plays to tell you everything you need to know about a player. It’s the same as the first time I saw Owen Daniels out there. You see one block, or catch, or run and you just say “damn, we’ve gotta hold on to that guy!” I got that feeling from Johnson and not from Henry. I actually think he should be running second to Foster until Slaton decides that he can COVER THE BALL WITH BOTHS HANDS!!! This is the year and I can’t wait for September 12th, GO TEXANS!!!

by TexanzFan on Aug 17, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

if not johnson

then I’m on the Torain Train! Who is jumping on?

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 17, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd love to bring him in

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 17, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

All about JJ

I saw him do some great stuff at Oregon- he seems like he has nothing but upside if he can stay healthy.

Plus, I can’t really root for anyone who used to play for the BE-SFs to play for the Texans.

by Vince Stros on Aug 17, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I take Johnson

I think he had a better performance overall. However, with Tate going on IR, I can see the Texans bringing in someone even if it’s just as a camp body. We can’t wear down the backs with 3 more pre-season games before the regular season.

Jeremiah played pretty well with 6.6 YPC. Henry, I’m just not sold that he’s anything but a practice player.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 17, 2010 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't even think

that he deserves a spot in the practice squad.

by Jordann on Aug 17, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

That bastard wrote a bot!

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

And I only call you a bastard out of love. :-)

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 17, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bot

Script that looks for certain behaviours or inputs. As in, Loesche wrote a bot to always answer Chris Brown when we post a poll.

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 17, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn Chris Brown...

and his giving Jacksonville 2 Ws.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 17, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe chris brown voted for himself, cuz you know that guy ain’t got shit to do

It's hard bein whimpy

by WhimpyJimmy on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

so long as you don't point that fickle finger of yours while you say it, that couldn't hurt anyone....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 17, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Henny and Chris Brown are the same guy

look good in practice, and the numbers say they could be good. But then they run very up right and have no vision. Slaton looked more like the guy from last year not the one from two years ago. He needs to get back to running on intinct and right now I think he is out thinking himself.

You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB

by Texans-Brocos on Aug 17, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

except that Chris Brown looked fat, old and slow

and unfit to be on a NFL roster..while Chris Henry atleast looks physically imposing.

Put him in on the goal line and maybe we can get a yard without fumbling.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 17, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually

read somewhere that Derrick Ward was on the fringe in Tampa.. could he be a fit? Yea, I think so.. just don’t give him a big contract, he will nor play any good..

Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!

by zala on Aug 17, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

blatant misuse of the word "if" in here!

“Not even if he puts the ball on the ground three more times in the preseason.”

puh-leeze, I think we all know the only thing keeping Sloppy Slaton from putting it on the turf three more times is if Kubes doesn’t let him on the field for three more plays… meanwhile, Tiki Barber and Purple Jesus are debating inviting Steve to their little club.

by grungedave on Aug 17, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

stupid bold

I suck at bolding AND italics. Clearly.

by grungedave on Aug 17, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You really should learn how to use an SBN blog

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Aug 17, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

why bother?

I’m about to get fired, right?

by grungedave on Aug 17, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

that implies that you actually worked, so no....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 17, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

jj all the way

But I want to hope Henry gets it. If he ever does then watch out. But I don’t see it happening

by AllenOU on Aug 17, 2010 2:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Holliday has a very good chance of making the team

If they’re not seeing him as a likely returner they’d be giving one of our other reserves more reps in that department in the hopes they’d find someone to take the job away from Jacoby Jones so he can concentrate on WR or be cut on the last day… whichever you believe to be more likely… If he takes the majority of the reps at returner this preseason, i’d say it’s very likely he makes the team.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 17, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not if he hits the hole timidly...

He might not be in one piece!

It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!

by USMC_Texas on Aug 17, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

He needs to make a decision and go.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 17, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

Though if he take the majority of the snaps at the return positions through all the preseason games, it’d be obvious that they’re taking a very serious look at him for those positions… Because of that, he’d have a good chance of making the team, it’s all up on him to play himself on the team at this point in my opinion….

Other players, such as Henry not only need to play well, but they need other players to perform at a lower level than they do as well. Holliday simply has show that he has the ability to be an upper tier returner in the league, which many people believes he has the ability to grow into… He just has to grow into it over the next 3 weeks or so.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 17, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else notice...

that ST Coach seemed upset with Holliday after his opening kickoff return? That was the only return he had that was decent and it looked like Marci was ticked off. Did he break for the corner too soon or miss an open hole in the middle of the field? Anyone?

by Mikus318 on Aug 18, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're delusional.

Holliday has almost no chance of making the team at this point.

by krkenney on Aug 17, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got more games to impress.

There’s time to turn it around.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 17, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. That's why they play more than one preseason game.

He needs to transfer what he does in practice to the game. If he can do that, then the Texans have something there…because he has been tearing it up there.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 17, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he even breaks one for 6.

I think they will keep him. TexansDC is completely right though, he needs to make a decision quickly and freaking run.

If he decides where to go quickly, he will be in for 6, because not many people will catch him once he hits full stride (which isnt very long).

by Jahon on Aug 17, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJ will make the roster for sure

but I think Chris Henry will too if he impresses on special teams and becomes a starter there.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 17, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

haha the last option is so true

because you know when all else fails we’ll turn to the Denver pipeline or whatever PapaShan and BabyShan throw away in Washington.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 17, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Chris Henry

as I have said on other message boards, there is a reason Chris Henry wasn’t productive in college. Obviously he didnt accept coaching or they didn’t coach this kid at all at the lower levels..

He has no wiggle, & his pad level is way to high for a running back. he is just a kid whocapitalized on his athleticism and as he progressed he started to wash out as the talent around him improved. with his athleticism I could see him tearing up highschool teams and maybe some bottom tier PAC 10 teams, and he can tear up a combine. However he doesn’t know how to be a running back, hes the RB version of Demariyus Thomas in Denver. They didn’t coach him up at the position they just gave him the ball and said run. Or they pulled their hair out trying to and just said %$#@ it and let him do his thing. It sucks because with his natural gifts if he could be coached up his athleticism would make him an awesome runner but I don’t know if he can’t be coached or won’t be coached. Considering this is his second team and he has yet to start at the NFL level and was beaten out by Chris Ban me now Brown in Tennessee,and “Lenfail” White… and still couldn’t earn a roster spot the writing is on the wall no matter how well he practices, he just isn’t going to get it at this level…

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity

by Ryan Perrio on Aug 17, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like you know him well

Are you more than just a fan and speaking from direct knowledge of the situation? Or are you speaking just based on knowing that he hasn’t made it, yet and therefore he won’t make it in the future? You seem very adamant that he won’t make it.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 17, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I was replying to Ryan Perrio

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 17, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

just look at his history

hes already been in the league 3 seasons and after 1 season the tennesee coaching staff drafted another 1st round RB . thats a red flag Watching him yesterday with his hands on the ball he looked like the second coming of lorenzo white.

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity

by Ryan Perrio on Aug 17, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see the Lorenzo White analogy

True, what you said about what happened at Tennessee. I thought he looked good on Special Teams Saturday and I think Kubes was saying that is where he needs to show his worth. Now that Tate is out for the season, I think his value has risen even more. But, back to your original post. Your criticism seems to be as much directed at the coaching staff as it is at the player. You said he had natural gifts and that if he could be coached up he would be an awesome runner. Wouldn’t that be the kind of player to keep in this situation, especially if you have two or three other RBs higher on the depth chart that you can rely on. I think the coaches have already said that they like him, they just want to see him get touches in the preseason games to see what he can do in game situations. And, as you stated, he hasn’t had that during his career. Seems like the perfect opportunity.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 17, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've liked Jeremiah Johnson

Since his days at Oregon when I was living out there. There was a rather large portion of Duck fans, i’d even say they had majority, who believed Johnson was on another level up from Jonathan Stewart. Stewart was a big powerhouse runningback who could run over people. Johnson was a powerhouse runningback who could run over people, run around them, and occassional juke their shoes off… His biggest nocks were his injuries and he had too much of a tendency to dance around at times rather than shoot through holes, from watching last game it looks like he’s cured himself of that.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 17, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Jeremiah was a bullfrog...

and he should Jump to the #2 back and keep Slaton only for certain situations:)

GO TEXANS!!!!

Our time will come...

by Texanmaniac on Aug 17, 2010 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Keep Slaton out of goal line situations

And plug in Jeremiah to punch in the TD

Have you ever had feelings for a nun?

by Bo$$man on Aug 18, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

People act like Slaton can't get tough yardage.

If his injury is healed, he has the ability to bang in the short-yardage situations. His problem on that play was awful running technique. If we’re really going to have a reliable backfield this season, it’s going to include Slaton getting important carries.

by krkenney on Aug 19, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

He’s running too high.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 20, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

And with 1 arm in the wrong place

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 20, 2010 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's his mind

His mind controls all of the above. He knows it but he doesn’t do it. It’s a shame…..

Here is my fix:

There should be a coach, and this is just me talking, who stands right by him on every practice snap and yells at him every step of the way. I swear, that is what it will take. Stand right over him and yell at him. Treat him like a marine at boot camp. He needs to be programmed!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 20, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Foster

slightly off topic but check out this college reel of Arian Foster..the guy amazing vision in high traffic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDfvypWLokk&feature=related

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 17, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Not real fast

but has great vision!!! I’ll take4.7 yrds a carry

My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!

by The Abrego on Aug 17, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

After watching the whole thing

He definitely has great BCV. He can make people miss and has a great burst out of the scrimmage. If he only had the speed to burn some defenders when he gets in the secondary.

He’s definitely a good back.

by Jordann on Aug 17, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why wasn't he drafted?

Seems to be able to make people miss in open space as well as find the hole in a crowd.

Also, anyone notice the ref taking a nose dive on the 2nd play? ROFLMAO!

by Mikus318 on Aug 18, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he came out of college his junior year...

…he would have been drafted. He went back for his senior year and had a less than stellar year. So, UDFA

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Aug 18, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forgot

He wore 27 when with the Vols. So when they cut Henry, will Foster change his number a third time to get 27?

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Aug 18, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is probably jumping the gun a bit early....

but I really think Slaton will not last much longer in the league……I don’t wann be right.

GO TEXANS!!!!

Our time will come...

by Texanmaniac on Aug 17, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can't take 10-15 carries like they gave him last game

bring him in on obvious passing downs and for screens…and seldomly to spell Foster and i think he’ll be fine. Remember, he was always meant to be a change of pace back.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 17, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

jeremiah johnson

good compilation of JJ’s TD-scoring ability – i think the dude is just built of the ZBS with his size, vision, and speed. like others have said, he has the wiggle and awareness that henry does not. really hope he brings out that nasty stiff arm!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnXmhMBnAQU

by stanfordkp on Aug 17, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Me too man.

His stiff arm is legendary back in Oregon.

He’s nearing Antwaun Molden mythical status though.

I hope he stays injury-free.

by Jordann on Aug 17, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Related question.

What happened to Jeremiah Masoli? I know that Ole Miss picked him up but did he make the team?

by Jordann on Aug 17, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe so

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 17, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still think he can be a great football player.

A QB? Maybe not. Im thinking RB, he does have to size to transition from a QB to a RB in the NFL.

by Jordann on Aug 17, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see Masoli taking that spot

because the college season starts.

I don’t know about him having great poise in the pocket, but he’s definitely a threat when he’s on the field.

Coach Nutt would be nuts to not start him!

See what I did there?

by Jordann on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ironic

Slaton is backing up Foster because of a fumbling problem.

http://www.cbs.com/sports/video/?pid=LLa0iWCea4XAMJiJaAv1J1SmudChDoFI

I know its been hashed and re-hashed on here, but I watched Foster in college. I hope getting paid “over the table” has changed his propensity.

"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK

by texanphil on Aug 17, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Foster has only shown promise as a Texan

In camp, practices and in every game he’s played in thus far. Though he’s not spectacular, he’s smart and hard working and he always runs for positive yardage. Thats all this offense needs to become the best in the league. If he starts fumbling of course my view will change, but hopefully that doesn’t happen.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 17, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

He doesn’t have to be adrian Peterson, just Warick dunn

by AllenOU on Aug 17, 2010 5:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's a high standard

Foster is good…… but let’s not give him unnecessary expectations by making him compete with the awesomeness that is Warrick Dunn.

/huge Dunn fan; second only to Barry Sanders on my list

by grungedave on Aug 18, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, he has just as many Super Bowls....why not?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 18, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

harsh

Dunn has a National Championship ring from FSU at least. ;-)

by grungedave on Aug 18, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was sure Dunn won a SB with Tampa

Now I’m sure I’m wrong about that. Was he with ATL in ’02? Quick Google search says, “yes”.

"I like watching the old naked couple on public access...until the guy stands up, then it sux." ~ BFD

by LoneSpot on Aug 19, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spkies football...

does Icky shuffle

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 19, 2010 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

give me a guy who can get 4 yards when we need it and I could care less how flashy he is or what his total yards are.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 17, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are other good RBs out there.

PJ Hill of Wisconsin, for instance, was not drafted despite awesome college stats. NO picked him up and he looks good in preseason for them.

The GM just needs to look around.

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Aug 17, 2010 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm torn

I want to vote for Chris Brown, but I want both the Broncos and Redskins to sign and waive him first.

by kozanack on Aug 17, 2010 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Ben Tate Injury Update

Texans rookie RB Ben Tate’s season-ending injury included a fractured fibula, in addition to torn ankle ligaments.
The second-round pick is almost lucky to have so much time to recover, because this is a significant injury. “He should be back playing next year,” coach Gary Kubiak predicted. “It’s a big blow because we were counting on him a great deal. He’s a good-looking young player, but he’ll be back.”
Source: Houston Chronicle

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 17, 2010 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Whoever had ankle ligaments

wins the pot.

Ouch. Hopefully the ligaments will be good as new come next summer.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 17, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

So,

Shake wins the pot?

/laughs to himself

by Jordann on Aug 17, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

GFY, Jordann

I mean, thanks.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 18, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

JJ will be no 3 and maybe 2 depending on which Slaton shows up

Not since Earl Campbell have we seen a stiff arm in this town. However I say pick-up Gattrell Johnson for NYG.. we were high on him two years ago in the draft but he got scooped before we could get him. Gattrell is a one cut back playing in a traditional system.. he was raised in a zone blocking scheme… he’s currently #4 in NY and will probably be cut… Trade Henry and Bennett for him… He’s working for near minimum.

Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!

by TEXSON on Aug 17, 2010 11:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a fever, & the only cure is more stiff arm

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Aug 17, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJ then the Shanny Scraps...

Foster, Slaton, JJ. I’ll take whoever they drop because none of those guys have fumbling issues. Henry shouldve been dropped at the end of the season.

by JohnBinATX on Aug 18, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Just throwing this out there

Glen Coffee anyone?

I heard he might be available for a late round draft pick. Ok, making that part up, but he does seem to be unemployed (retired) and he is young and not injured. The Texans have some Alabama connections on their team. Perhaps they can help to get him in the mix…..

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 18, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Speculation

Was that he couldn’t handle the speed of the NFL which was a factor in his retirement. At least that’s what I heard either on NFLN or ESPN.

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Aug 18, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, you're saying we shouldn't discuss it?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 18, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron Schobel was 33 and retired...didn't stop people from talking about him

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 18, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was some QB that retired a few years ago...

A whole lot of people were talking about him. He had some weird last name.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 18, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Green?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 18, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Travis Johnson approves of that retirement

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 18, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 19, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

"God don't like ugly"

Come on, you always gotta include his statement with that picture!

‘At 12:01, I had a lot of respect for Trent Green," Johnson said. "At 12:20, I said FUCK Trent Green. To hit my knee like that, that’s uncalled for. He’s like the scarecrow — he wants to get courage while I’m not looking and hit me in my knee instead of trying to hit me in my head. God don’t like ugly — you know what I mean?

"My knee ain’t never hurt like it hurt today. When I was up in the air, looking at the ceiling, I was wondering what was going to happen if I came down on my head. It was a dirty play. Football’s not like that. If you want to hit me, hit me in my shoulders, not my knees. That just showed what type of man he is."

by Jordann on Aug 19, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nice

Brain to Mouth: “Tell ’em that scarecrow shit I came up with…”

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 19, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man,

I would love to read that post again.

There should be a monthly post here on BRB reposting the most epic posts in DGDB&D.

Ahem. Ahem.

It’s perfect for you BFD since you don’t like posting stuff, it’s nothing but a small introduction and a little copypasta then you’re done!

by Jordann on Aug 19, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll catch a lot of flak for this...

… but Johnson was right to at least be angry. No one likes to see a guy go down like Green did, but he was wrong to try and throw that block. I wouldn’t want Schaub to try it, I don’t want other QBs trying it on my players.

And this is coming from a guy who actively roots for other teams’ players to suffer season-ending injuries. I have awful knees from time spent rotating in on the defensive line in high school and I’m 22; torn meniscus in the left knee, torn MCLs in both knees. I’ll admit I had sympathy for TJ on that play, even though he made as much of an ass out of himself as possible immediately after.

by krkenney on Aug 19, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No flak needed.

I felt the same way. I just thought the whole situation was funny. And the FCWRP was funnier.

by Jordann on Aug 20, 2010 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

^ All of this

Fuck Trent Green.

And this is coming from someone who would have paid $5-10 to have Travis killed in 2008. But he was justified in this event.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 20, 2010 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with all

In the aftermath, what can we do but ridicule the situation in an attempt to placate ourselves in our misery as Texans fans. But, yes, at the moment, it was a dirty play on the part of Green. Sure, he was hurt and it probably led to the shortening of his career, but at that moment, TJ had a right to be angry. I can’t say that anyone else would have reacted much differently in the same circumstance. I think the guy who made the biggest as of himself over the situation was Keith Olbermann who made a big thing about it and named him the Worst Person in the NFL. Olbermann is such a tool. Can’t stand the guy and I openly wonder why someone like that is employed by a major network and gets airtime for such inane presentations.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 20, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Keith be gone

Olbermann is no longer on the show… for other reasons (basically MSNBC wants him to focus on their shit)

by grungedave on Aug 20, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Olbermann

His downhill slide started on the day that he tried to force ESPN to move their office to please their “star” (him).

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 20, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

"keep the talent happy"

“Did he just refer to himself as ‘the talent’?”

/necessary Groundhog Day’d

by grungedave on Aug 20, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If he was worth it, I'd start a Hate Keith Olbermann Club

….he’s not worth it

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 20, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

every time I see it

This picture epitomizes everything that is awesome about the NFL…

by grungedave on Aug 19, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Fake Conversations w/ Real People" from Matt?

I assume that’s what you’re referring to.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 19, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

McNair?

lots of talk… sadly, he couldn’t talk back anymore.

by grungedave on Aug 18, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Vinny Testaverde?

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Aug 18, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

too obvious

How about that other Southern Miss great, Reggie Collier…

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 19, 2010 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

JJ on practice sqaud

Not because Henry is better. I think that Henry is not practice squad eligible (correct?), which means that if we cut him, we have three backs in the stable:

Foster – looks good, but has had injury problems
Slaton – was good, but has injury and fumble problems
Johnson – looks good but has had injury problems

So, I could see putting JJ on the practice squad with Holliday and having Henry as the 3rd back on Opening Day. If Henry proves to be irrevocably stupid and the other prove to be durable, then cut him and bring up JJ.

by smokehaus on Aug 19, 2010 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Also

I have to admit, I keep hoping Henry will morph into Stephen Jackson. Not likely, but it is OK to dream.

by smokehaus on Aug 19, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 19, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

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