Position Battle Recap - Week Two Edition
Before I get into the updated position battle standings, I wanted to give my thoughts on the game.
First of all, I didn't enjoy ABC-13's coverage of the game. You can go back through the live threads to find a bunch of us having our good share of fun with the network, but I have to point one thing out again. Did ABC seriously ask about the Texans switching to a 3-4? During a game? With no provocation at all? Thankfully, the Texans get nationwide CBS coverage next week in their first 2010 game at Reliant Stadium.
Second of all, if you're going to drop an egg, then doing so in a pre-season game isn't bad. Another good performance may have gotten the guys lazy these next few weeks. However, now they see how far they have to go to get to an elite level. Kubiak now has a reason to crack the whip when these guys come back to Houston with something to prove against a rival team that has struggled this pre-season.
The negatives? Bad tackling, overpursuit, a muffed punt, a stupid fumble, and Kubiak keeping Andre and Schaub out there too long. Sure, the rest of the starters could use more time given how unimpressive they were, but you have to protect the goods. The problems can all be fixed. No need to worry. The team has something to work on. They'll hear the negative chatter and it should fuel them. Plus, pre-season record doesn't count.
The positives? Kareem Jackson (a/k/a the Kareemsicle) looked very smooth and comfortable out there, Arian Foster scored a red zone rushing touchdown, Schaub was accurate, both QBs put up a QB rating over 103, the reserve TEs showed nice depth with a combined 7 catches for 91 yards and 1 TD (could've been 2 if there had not been a penalty on Garrett Graham), Neil Rackers was awesome, Troy Nolan got a sack on a safety blitz, and the starters got out of there healthy.
There, you're on a slightly happy note. Now hit the jump for the roster battles.
Game Performance: Dan-O went 12-19 for 140 and a touchdown. It was a Booty-less Saturday.
Thoughts: Statistically, Dan's performing well against back-ups, but there are still mistakes. He's still holding onto the ball too long, putting the ball in a place where your wide receiver is going to get killed, and playing it too safe with his throws (read: dumps it off too much). He's improved from last season, but I'm still not sold on him.
Current Standings: Dan-O is the back-up with Booty sitting third.
Running Back: Arian Foster versus Steve Slaton versus Chris Henry versus Jeremiah Johnson
Game Performance: Foster had 28 yards on 6 carries, along with 2 receptions for 15 yards, with a TD and fumble. Slaton had 19 yards on 5 carries to go along with a terrible screen pass. Jeremiah had a six-yard catch and one-yard rush.
Thoughts: Kubiak's insistence on playing the starters hurts the back-ups' chances to impress. Well, there's also the fact that the Saints had the ball for 40(!!!!) minutes. Jeremiah getting more playing time than Chris Henry should be telling.
Current Standings: Foster's the #1, Steve's in on 3rd downs, and Jeremiah
Wide Receiver 4 & 5: Andre Davis versus David Anderson versus Dorin Dickerson
Game Performance: Anderson led the team with 3 receptions and 61 yards. Dickerson and Davis did not play.
Thoughts: Anderson played very well last night. He showcased his speed and toughness. Must have been hard for Davis seeing other players step into return roles so easily, but more on that later.
Current Standings: They should update the Mothership's depth chart as DA is clearly the #4, Dickerson is riding his impressive debut last week to the 5th spot, and Davis is on the outside looking in.
Interior Offensive Line: Kasey Studdard versus Mike Brisiel versus Wade Smith
Game Performance: Studdard was his usual self, Smith was less than impressive, and Brisiel was actually quite solid.
Thoughts: Both Smith and Studdard got pushed around on Saturday while Brisiel performed well, mostly at center. Kubiak wanted to settle on a starting line-up by now, so....
Current Standings: The line should go Brown - Brisiel - Myers - Caldwell - Winston. Why Brisiel? Well, the others haven't blown me away. Brisiel has performed fairly well, but really he's won by default. I'm sure if BRB could reach him for comment that it'd sound something like this: "Default? Woo hoo! Default: the two sweetest words in the English language... de fault, de fault, de fault."
Strong-Side Linebacker: Danny Clark versus Xavier Adibi versus Darryl Sharpton at Weak-Side, which forces Zac Diles to strong-side
Game Performance: Adibi is nursing a groin injury, Clark had an interception but left with a strained knee, and Sharpton had one tackle.
Thoughts: There's really not much to say, eh? The defense as a whole sort of vanished. Just a disappointing performance.
Current Standings: By default, Sharpton may be the starting WLB and Diles, who has played very well in the pre-season, could be in Cushing's spot.
Cornerback: Brice McCain versus Antwaun Molden versus Sherrick McManis versus Jacques Reeves versus Mark Parson versus Fred Bennett
Game Performance: McCain had an assist, Molden did not play, McManis had a tackle, Reeves had an assist, and Parson and Bennett rarely saw the field.
Thoughts: The Saints only threw for 211 yards, but 182 of that was to third-string Chase Daniel abusing the Cover-2 zone. I can't really fault the corners as much as I do the safeties.
Current Standings: McCain's leading in the battle for the #3 spot, Molden suffered a setback but should go against Dallas, McManis has been better than I thought and is my pick for the Quarter, while Reeves, Parson, and Bennett are up for the potential 6th CB spot. My pick? Parson. Young, hungry for a chance, and cheaper than the other two.
Kickoff Returner: Trindon Holliday versus Steve Slaton versus Sherrick McManis versus Jeremiah Johnson
Game Performance: Holliday - 28 yard return and one bobbled catch that led to a kneel down, Slaton - 2 returns for 88 yards including a 63 yarder, McMannis - 26 yard return, Johnson - 55 yard return.
Thoughts: Thumb injury or not, Holliday showed a flash and then struggled to field a punt and kick before being benched. He's been disappointing and the excitement he generated is gone. Heck, people wanted the team to leave him in Louisiana. Slaton and Johnson looked great running in space - SHOCK!
Current Standings: Holliday gets one last chance to avoid the practice squad against Dallas should he be healthy enough to play. Otherwise, Slaton and Johnson will be returning kicks.
Punt Returner: Trindon Holliday versus Jacoby Jones
Game Performance: Both men stood out there, but there were only two returns by Holliday for one yard. Oh, Trindon also muffed a punt, which led to a Saints TD, and was benched.
Thoughts: Well, Holliday has struggled returning punts. This is the second punt he's muffed in a game situation. He went to the bench. That should say it all.
Current Standings: Barring Holliday exploding versus the Cowturds (if he plays), Jacoby may be returning punts again. Get the alcohol ready.
Kicker: Neil Rackers versus Kris Brown
Game Performance: Both kickers went 1-for-1 on field goals and 1-for-1 on extra points. Brown made a 43 yard FG while Rackers nailed his from 52(!) yards. The kickoffs were fine, but suffered from poor tackling coverage.
Thoughts: Well, we know who Spencer Tillman is rooting for, right? Just outright rooting for Kris Brown. I get that it's a home station, but it's a position battle. Don't pick favorites or sway public feeling. That said, the kickers both nailed their kicks. Rackers got to show off his range with the 52-yarder, which happens to be the most impressive kick either man has made this summer.
Current Standings: From what we've read through OTAs and training camp, Rackers has made more FGs than Brown. In game situations, both kickers have made all their FGs, but Rackers made the longer one. 52 yards may be his range limit without wind, but, to me, it gives him the edge. He's not only outperformed Brown, but he's less of a headcase than Brown, or so says history. That said, the coaches will probably take Brown if all things are even because of loyalty, even though none should be shown to the worst NFL kicker in 2009.
There are my thoughts. Sound off in the comments as we try to forget Saturday night's performance and move on to the pre-season home opener against the Southern Oklahoma Cowturds.
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What about Brain Freeze?
Good summarization of the blog-thoughts, TDC and breakdown of the positions. My position breakdown might focus on one position only. Can you guess what it is? The reason why? Because I don’t see the personnel there that can turn it around.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
You're talking about the Punter position huh?
How dare you question the greatness that is Matt Turk!
Turk is safe, so long as he stops fumbling....
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Did you know he has yellow shoes?!?!?
Spencer Tillman told me….over……and over…….and over.
I am the father of Brian Cushing's baby.
Uggghhhhhh! Jordan, you're on a roll.....
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
here's hoping..
for a pretty decent turnaround. they had 1 good game & 1 bad game. if the texans rebound and play pretty good (don’t have to win, but it would be nice against the cowgirls) i won’t be in panic mode. if it’s another game like the saints game…..oh boy….bring on the bleach…..Durga help me!!!
"No matter where you go....There you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
by buckaroo_banzai on Aug 23, 2010 7:53 AM CDT reply actions
Use the term "cowgirls" at your own peril
Prefer the use of cowturds, cowflops, cowpukes….and so on. So says one of our loyal readers.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
cowturds is my personal favorite
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Aug 23, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
We better have a good showing against the Cownuts
…and I know what you’re thinking, "Dont bulls have nuts and cows have va-ja-ja’s? Well no in the Dallas case. were talkin a buncha hermies.
Anyways, in my opinion, we got a good look at what it is gonna take to compete with the elite teams in this league. To be honest we could not have played a more PLAGUED first half but we were STILL technically in it. even if the starters stay in for both teams we could have still been able to win that game if it would have been real. I know the preseason is to see where out talent is and that was a dismal showing, but THOSE are the games we would have to find a way to win and turnovers are the way to guarantee a smaller chance.
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 23, 2010 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Kareemsicle?
Sounds like something they eat on montrose
The guy is a football player not a fairy
I nominate all names having to
Do with ice creak be permanently banned, and anyone who uses them have their balls shaved with a belt sander.
That is plain awful. Even worse then ice kareem
by AllenOU on Aug 23, 2010 9:44 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Kareem
Kareemsicle will not do. He’s got a great name that you could come up with 20 different decent Knicknames with, but like most he willl end up with KJ. it’s simple, it flows, not original, but everyone will know who you are talking about. i think we need to have a vote on this one.
Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!
Brain Freeze
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
How about...
The Jackson 25? Yeah…I know…it sucks too
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by distant_texans_fan on Aug 24, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I think if the kickers are equal then Brown does, and should, win the job
If by equal you mean that they performed equally well kicking field goals. Brown has a bigger leg. Rackers pretty much showed you his limit, distance wise, Saturday night. If Rackers can’t show a clear advantage in accuracy then Brown should win the job based on the fact that he gives you a few more yards to work with for field goals. Neither of them kicked off very well, but that’s another part of the equation as well.
I’ll be fine with either one of them. They are both capable of being very accurate kickers…and they can both miss some big kicks. Whoever wins…wins.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I agree
I saw this at the practice I was at too, Rackers kicks low and flat most of the time and his absolute limit is 50!. Brown has alot more loft to his kicks. And clearly has the supperior leg. I’m just not sure that Brown can do it when it means something. Rackers only missed one field goal last year, how many did Brown miss? If I’m Kubs, I’m looking for a way to keep both, let Brown kick off and anything over 45 and Rackers is the guy that kicks most of the FG’s and PAT’s
You can't fix Dumb or being a VYFB
by Texans-Brocos on Aug 23, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not unprecedented but we're in no shape to sacrifice a roster spot for an extra PK
Before I saw any game action, I thought Rackers would be the guy but I don’t think so now. Kris looks to have the stronger leg and thus far has been accurate. Rackers barely made his 52 yarder while Browns kick from 43 looked to have the carry to be good from 55-56 yards. He and Rackers both have the history of getting the yips at the worst possible times, so I’d go with the guy with more range.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 23, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
no way we keep both
Roster spots are too precious to tie up two spots at kicker. Brown is obviously capable of being an accurate kicker. The question is does he have the mental part of his game back…or is he like Rick Ankiel and he’ll never be able to throw strikes again?
I know most people are ready for Brown to be shown the door after last year. I don’t care either way because I assume that whoever wins the job performed better in camp. The reports we got indicated that Rackers has been a little more accurate than Brown. If that’s the case then he will win…but what we don’t know is all the times they have kicked without fans/media around reporting on it.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
If Holliday is PS'd or cut
I might be swayed to your way of thinking.
"I like watching the old naked couple on public access...until the guy stands up, then it sux." ~ BFD
even without Holiday
You have to look at it from the standpoint of where does the roster spot come from. Do you cut a LB who could play special teams. A TE who might see action in 3TE sets, special teams, and maybe as the back up FB. Do you sacrifice depth on the line?
I can’t think of one position where I would feel comfortable carrying an extra kicker at the expense of a “real” position player.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
um did everyone forget this is Kris Brown we're talking about?
the same guy that cost us a playoff season on 3 different occasions last year while amassing the worst field goal percentage in the league last year? I could care less if Kris Brown can kick it 10 yards further if he’s shanking it 10 yards to the left. If everything is EQUAL, and i mean right down the middle in preseason and practice..then you give it to RACKERS. Better career track record, multiple pro bowler, more accurate statistically, came through for his team when called upon in his most recent action (16-17 last season), and most importantly doesn’t have the pressure of an entire organization and city who will castrate him after one miss because of piss poor performance in the biggest tries of his career.
by leacheatsbabies on Aug 23, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
I thought I was the only one who saw things this way especially since Brown is a miss away from cracking like he did last season because he’ll hear the “same ol’ shit” talk from the fans. He’s known to be a infected with Lidgeitis.
Kris Brown is the last person on this team that should be protected by the powers of incumbency.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Aug 23, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is there any possibility of a trade involving Davis and Henry?
Does anyone need a reciever/returner and back? Specifically those two?
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Do the Rams or Lions need some depth?
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Aug 24, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Lions need....
DB’s. I offered them Fred Bennett already.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Hwta about the Saints REAL backup QB
Isnt that Ramsey? After Chase Daniels showing will they be cutting Ramsey or PS’n him? If so can we get him as our backup instead of DO?
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 23, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions
He's pretty awful.
Remember when he filled in for Cutler in Denver a few years back… I’d take Dan-O over him any day.
Good write up TDC
It’s some sad shit when the sky is falling around town after one preseason game. Even crazier when everyone is aboard the “Fire Kubiak” bandwagon and I’m not driving it.
Bizarre.
Local sports radio got turned off real quick at my desk this morning.
I know...
I’m starting to notice the fanbase develop a personality and it’s not one I’m particularly fond of (that of the overreacting fan).
"Lord, beer me strength."
Thats pretty much most ever fanbase unfortunately
people are stupid.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
True story
I just don’t get it…the pre-season doesn’t matter. Outrage shouldn’t be there. Disappointment? Yes. A demand for a better week of performance? Yes. Outrage? Child please. And what’s worse? I’m sure the media crackpots will stir up that emotion.
"Lord, beer me strength."
To a point, yes.
But when you have a fanbase that is used to being let down at the last moment, you start to build a much wider swath of chicken littles than you normally would.
/is a Mets fan.
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by riversmccown on Aug 23, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Dodger fans
are geniuses /not
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Selection bias
All the morons who just figured out how to dial telephone numbers have something to say and it’s usually stupid.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 23, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
and sadly they are too stupid
to realize how stupid they are
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
The Anosognosic's Dilemma
Google it, its a good read.
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by distant_texans_fan on Aug 24, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
It's reflective of the major media beat-writers we have.
Most of the fans pull their opinions from Pancakes’ columns, and when the Texans struggle, he’s generally a pissy little brat about it. A negative tone is a very contagious thing.
protip:
Its the same in most cities. Houston has the problem have having not much after the Chron, but MM sucks most everywhere, theres just usually more and slightly better variety.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I immediately switched to the ipod this morning as soon as I got in the car
I believe the discussion was how bad Kubiak got out coached and how he had the team unprepared for the Saints offense in a game that neither team game-planned for and that the players had likely seen the same plays Saturday night as they did all week in practice
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I'm usually the first to jump on Kubiak
But I’m surprisingly not yet. Probably because I don’t give two shits about the preseason. It’s just glorified practice against another team. If we can get out of it without (more) injuries, I could care less if we go 0-4.
As far as idiots on the radio, last week they were ready to crown the guys Super Bowl contenders after the strong showing by the first team. This week they’re doomed to go 5-11. The reason there is nothing but idiot callers on the radio is because the actual intelligent ones are too smart to stay on hold for over an hour to get on the radio.
^^^ This.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 23, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Another thing to think about on that 52 yarder, it was right down the damn middle.
It hit the bar, but it was in the middle!
Earl Campbell is the perfect combination of assmass and weightspeed. - Papabear
It didn't hit the bar itself, either
It hit beyond the bar, down at the foundation of the post.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Aug 23, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone else wish?
that we would of signed John Henderson, just to see what he had left. It sure as hell could not of hurt us. don’t worry guys, we will get the run game down just like our last 12 games of 2009. maybe we needed an ass kicking in preseason so hopefully it doesn’t happen the first game.
Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!
I doubt Kubiak is getting positive reports from Shanahan and Son
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
In my dreams the conversation goes like this
Kubiak: Hey, Papa Shanny, I hear you have a malcontent player on your hands.
Shan: You mean that fat fuck Albert Haynesworth? The guy who I have embarrassed for weeks? The guy who got outrun by an ESPN has been?
Kubiak: Well, since you have done so much for me in my career. Let’s say I help you out?
Shan: Go on.
Kubiak: A 7th rounder to take him off your hands. Heck, I’ll even throw in a defensive lineman to help your NT rotation.
Shan: Wow, you’d really take him? And give me a NT?
Kubiak: Of course! What are friends for? Just pull the trigger and I’ll send a 7th rounder and Frank Okam for your pissed off player.
Shan: DEAL!
/sigh
"Lord, beer me strength."
and they just paid him 20 mill, sounds like a deal to me...we can throw in Bennett and Dre Davis to sugar coat the deal
wouldn’t someone like that just solidify our d-fense? BFD has always been right, but we can’t ever draft a good DT anyway, so go find a proven one.
Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!
Just what the Texans need....a player who doesn't show up for practice or games.....
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I think you're giving Frank a little too much credit....
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
better than fourth teamer Frank Okam?
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Aug 23, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
No, that would be
reminding everyone that he saw first team snaps on Saturday.
"Lord, beer me strength."
So, when they cut Frank
They’re cutting a 2nd teamer? The coaches have a lot of heart. Now Frank can tell his grandchildren that he was a 2nd teamer. That’s awesome. The stories he can tell…
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I would be willing to bet that the Texans FO takes a hard look at other teams' castaways
and Frank finds himself out looking.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Studdard as long as hes a the bench its all good
living the Texas dream
by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
First of all, I didn’t enjoy ABC-13’s coverage of the game.
Not only is the coverage bad/amateurish but I’m still baffled by the fire breathing bull. Not that I don’t understand the premise, but more annoyed about how it looks idiotic. And why is the body gray/silver and the head colored? The graphics are just too crummy Wolfenstein-ish for me.
The production value as a whole just blows. With the announcers proving themselves dolts repeatedly (unicorn blood, Turk’s yellow shoes, munchkin voices, and miscalling players/numbers, etc.,) the annoying graphics, bad camera shots watching a cheerleader shake her ass and completely missing a play (not to say it was a bad ass, but there’s priorities, right fellas?) and the interview with Pollard whilst missing game action, to the super annoying ad placements ALL over the game (“this first down marker brought to you by Ford, the official truck sponsor of the Houston Texans”), etc.
The whole thing is annoying and while watching them annoyingly miss tackle after tackle, the production aspect of it all almost pushes me to want to swallow razorblades.
Am I the only one?
I am the father of Brian Cushing's baby.
I'm missing something here
Fire breathing bull? Is this something they show locally on ABC? Or are you referring to the bull head they run out of from the tunnel?
In the DC area they have these annoying Eastern Motors commercials. I was glad they traded LaVar Arrington away. I don’t have to watch him lip sync their stupid jingle anymore. Oh, and the lip syncing and the actual music is off on the timing which makes it even better.
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Aug 23, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear god
I hated the ever living shit out of that stupid jingle.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 24, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You ARE the only Texans fan who uses the word "whilst"
You must be from Great Britain is all I can say about that….
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Any Saturday without Booty is usually a bad weekend
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
Kubiak didn't have time for Booty.
Somewhere in Houston, Rhonda is roaming the streets looking for somebody to replace Travis Johnson’s sweet sweet lovin.
Speaking of Travis Johnson
He was fined $5K in the first preseason game for a late hit. Hahaha! He doesn’t even make that much for playing in that game!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
A Saturday without Booty
Is standard in my household these days.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 24, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel for you dude.
My house was that way for years. Booty once a month was standard those days.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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