Trindon Holliday: What To Do?
by Tim on Aug 23, 2010 1:27 PM CDT
in News
Email
PrintBack in April, many of us were giddy about the Trindon Holliday pick. One easily excitable kool-aid drinker said at the time:
Trindon Holliday: Love. This. Pick. Furthermore, the only person I can fathom who doesn't dig the addition is Andre Davis, because it likely effectively ends his career with the Texans. Holliday is your new return man, and Apostrophe doesn't contribute enough in the receiving game to warrant the $2,550,000.00 he's scheduled to earn in 2010, salary cap or not. Not only is Holliday going to be fun to watch on special teams; I think there's a chance Kubes devises a package or two where Holliday could make an impact on the offense as well. A sixth-rounder who could have an immediate effect on the 2010 season? I'm legitimately excited about this.
Now, with two preseason games in the books...I'm no longer legitimately excited.
Trindon Holliday just hasn't looked like a guy who will convince Kubes that he's worthy of a roster spot. His prospects at wide receiver were dim to begin with, thanks to the Texans' depth at the position and Holliday's size. Making a 53-man roster as a return specialist is tough enough. Making a 53-man roster as a return specialist with bad hands is even tougher. And making the Texans' 53-man roster with "some type of ligament issue with his thumb" strikes me as virtually impossible. Barring Ebola striking Jacoby Jones, Steve Slaton, David Anderson, and/or Andre Davis down in the next two weeks, I can't see Trindon Holliday being a member of the active roster on September 12th.
To that end, I have a hard time believing that another NFL squad is going to burn a roster spot on Holliday. I suppose the thumb injury could be grounds for stashing Trindon on injured reserve, if the Texans really wanted to do it. More likely, at least to me, is the Texans sending their sixth-round pick to the practice squad with the hope that he overcomes his issues, be they health-related or not, in time to help the Texans later this season or (far more likely) next year.
You're Smithiak. What would you do?
58 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I may (sadly) have been right about this one
Was never a true believer. Sure, he might have another game to redeem himself. But I just never thought he’d make the team as a specialist.
You just hate
LSU. You fool nobody.
"MDC: Droppin' knowledge like a librarian with Parkinson's." --Jonathan Loesche
Me too, me too!
but most of my hate is centered on their baseball team.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
What?!
That is impossible LSU is loved by everyone, except ESPN, The AP and half the college football world. BUT Thats it! WE will rise again!!! (Probably not this year or next thanks to Zach Lee being too damn talented, Screw you Dodgers!)
Geaux Tigers!
2013 NC!!!
MUAHAHA
Stealing Zach Lee from you guys and eliminating you this year almost makes up for UCI being knocked out by you two years ago. Almost.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
We were/are/will be
the team of Destiny nothing will stop us! Except if the other team knows how to run an Offense/use time outs/ sign Zach Lee.
But seriously LSU baseba;ll will be back soon I have faith in Mainieri. Faith in The Hat is on the line
/Tommy John Surgery
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I was gonna say let him play out the rest of the preseason...
I still have HOPE!
Otherwise PS and have Stevie Blunder do the kickoff returns, this way we can still get rid of Andre Davis.
Earl Campbell is the perfect combination of assmass and weightspeed. - Papabear
As I said...
if healthy, he will get a chance to play against Dallas. He needs a big-time performance to avoid being sent to the practice squad.
He’s simply too fast to cut. A year on the practice squad lets him develop. I feel like he could benefit from that learning experience.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Come on guys the Koolaid's still delicious and plentiful
The only guy to play in the NFL to have run the 100M in 10s or less. Or maybe we should’ve signed Justin Gatlin way back when.
If this guy doesn't return most everything in the next two games
Then this organization clearly doesn’t get it. It s fucking preseason. We know slaton and jj can do it, WTF is the reason for them doing it anymore tell the real games start.
TH needs all the reps he can get, and worse case is he fumbles all of them, in a meaningless game, and gets cut
Guy shouldn’t have been yanked from the saints game regardless of fumbles
by AllenOU on Aug 23, 2010 1:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I concur, I wish he had just stayed in the whole saints game.
Earl Campbell is the perfect combination of assmass and weightspeed. - Papabear
It's pretty clear to me this guy isn't going to be returning kicks in the regular season
No reason to not get the other guys some live action. Stash Holiday on the PS or IR, and see if he can come back next year as a specialist and at least an emergency WR after learning a whole offseason.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
by papabear on Aug 23, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed And Rec'd
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Totally! If we don’t let an injured, undersized, fumbling, 24 year old, 6th round rookie take as many kickoffs and punts as possible, this coaching has lost it, and I will never forgive them.
by MadMartygan on Aug 24, 2010 2:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Kubiak stashes him on the IR for a year
Sure, they could put him on the practice squad, but there’s a very tiny chance that someone grabs him off waivers before we can sign him to the practice squad. Also, there’s a limited amount of space on the practice squad and my guess is Kubiak would prefer to stock it with guys who could fill a need because of injuries to either line, LB, etc. There are several players who can return kicks on this team.
IR would keep him from practicing…but it’s not like he’s close as is and might break through. I still don’t think Andre Davis is safe. Dickerson is a better value right now, and with questions at Gaurd and being thin at LB for at least four games I think we are more likely to see a roster spot go to another position than to an extra WR.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
by papabear on Aug 23, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
IR is an option, PS = gone
someone will take him from the PS
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 23, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: PS
I have a hard time imagining that another team would burn a roster spot on a return specialist
with ball security and/or injury issues. Maybe one of the REALLY talent-challenged squads, I guess. Care to speculate, OTD?
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 23, 2010 6:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
I don’t see anybody taking that gamble on him.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Raiders?
Maybe the old Al Davis and his “can’t coach speed” philosophy resurfaces?
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Aug 23, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Crazy Uncle Al would snatch up Holliday in a heartbeat
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Aug 24, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
If this is the fear...that someone is going to snatch him up, well
Let them. If the guy sucks, let him suck somewhere else. I for one think there is some natural ability involved in catching punts. If this guy is exclusively a returner, then it is obvious that is what he does in practice. He comes to the game and can’t catch a punt. Do the math. He hasn’t picked it up. He is a muffer! There is no place on this team for a muffer. If after all these weeks in practice he hasn’t figured it out, with all this professional coaching around him, he will never figure it out. Let the Crazy Uncle snatch him. He must have better coaches that can teach fast guys to catch. Who is that first-round burner that is now a premier WR?
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
Well at this late date it is a moot point (sorry was away for a few days)
IMO the ball security issues were related to the thumb. He showed no such tendencies at LSU. His world class speed makes him a game breaker, so yes I think some team would have valued him if he was healthy on our PS. Maybe I am just unusually biased towards the small guys because I am one, but I think Holliday can eventually learn the WR position and in the interim will have value as a returner.
Because he is IR’ed this is a best case scanario for the Texans, and maybe him too. Kubiak gets an entire year to work with him and teach him the position without any risk of losing him; he collects a paycheck without taking any vicious hits. Anyone remember Noland (Super Gnat) Smith? Played 3 years with the Chiefs/Chargers. Almost exact same size as Holliday, but not as fast. He wasn’t great, but provided some excitement and a few TD’s in the return game. I see Holliday as being able to that and more. Already looking forward to seeing him in 2011.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 26, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Koolaid is yummy.
If we cut him, I think another team will grab him.
Keep giving him the ball or at least design some place specifically for him. Granted he has looked horrible in the first two games, but I still believe in this guy. You can’t teach speed.
IR
How are roster spots and the IR handled? Or is there a limit with the IR?
I don't think there is a limit, but I'm not really sure
A player on the IR does not take up a roster spot. I have suspected Kubiak of using the IR to stash marginal players before, and I think Hollidays thumb gives them an excuse.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
well....
He’s still a beast in Madden.
That’s about the only positive thing I can say about Trindon right now.
No, there's not
The only rules are that an IR player can’t practice nor return at all during the season. They are still under contract, but don’t count against roster limits.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I still have not been able to watch a game....
but I wonder how much of Mighty Mites fumbling issues are either wanting to run before he has the ball secured, or as others have mentioned, hearing the thundering feet of approaching special teamers that outweigh him by 100lbs and knowing he has piss poor blocking in front of him(in other words terrified)?
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
I'd call it nerves....trying to hard....
I don’t think he’s afraid of being hit. He’s played since pee-wee league probably and has always been the tiny kid. I’m sure he’s used to it.
The knowing that he was drafted to return and will make the team if he returns thing…..that’s what I think. I’ve watched a lot of other pre-season games and a lot of other returners act the same way. They’re just way too nervous and trying too hard which leads to many mistakes.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Good News Everyone!
http://www.battleredblog.com/2010/8/23/1638317/directtv-now-willing-to-take-non#comments
I’m so stoked right now
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Dude
Just get directv. It’s better than everything else by a mile except u verse, which is almost as good but not quite there due to the NFL package
But the on on directv you can watch four or eight game split screens, and set the sound on any one or on to switch when a team is in the red zone.
It’s really a must, but you need a 61 inch tv or larger. My 65 is perfect
by AllenOU on Aug 23, 2010 4:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Cox is cheaper
and honestly very very solid. I can just hook this shizzy up to my tv through my computer and bam awesomeness.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
We don't have cox here
I had it in Norman OK it was legit. So long ago we had 8 HD channels only!
by AllenOU on Aug 23, 2010 7:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No Roster Spot, But Don't Let Him Leave
Holliday needs time to work on his fundamentals. He is obviously not comfortable returning kicks at a NFL level. Stash this kid for a year. Have him practice catching 10,000 punts before next season, watch 1,000 hours of tape, work on his skills as a slot receiver, and bring him back out next year. After last weekend’s performance I don’t think that there is any way that Kubes could risk a roster spot on him. Therefor, there is no point in having him return any more kicks in the preseason. Even if he runs two or three back for TD’s there are two many question marks on him to warrant a roster spot as a specialist. I love what Holliday can bring to the table. I just want to see the polished version next year.
by TexanSchmackDown on Aug 23, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
Off Topic
Adam Schefter Adam_Schefter
Anytime a player hires a new agent, he usually wants a new deal. Texans WR Jacoby Jones hired Kennard McGuire, Andre Johnson’s agent. 33 minutes ago via web
living the Texas dream
As much as I love Jakespeare
He ain’t getting a new deal. At least not until 2011 if he performs this year, and of course follows Cap’n Meco and Andre’s examples.
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Aug 23, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be so sure
They could look to lock him up for less than he is worth before he proves it this year, if they feel he’ll have a great year.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Aug 23, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't fucking stand seeing throwback oiler jerseys in Nashville !!!!!!!
Is it wrong that I wish career ending injuries on VY and CJ ? I don’t want them to die or anything, just not play football ever again.
You are banned from Stampede Blue.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.
Hi CFHTim. You're trolling yet another SB Nation blog. Since you've been banned from several other SB Nation blogs, you don't get a warning. You get banned. If you want to get unbanned, email BBS and state your case for re-admission.
by CFHTim on Aug 23, 2010 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Kills me dead
It’s a direct slap in your face by the NFL and Beelzebud.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
I'll pass on Holliday.
If we can’t put him on PS, then cut him. Did everybody forgot how well Slaton did when he was returning punts?
If Slaton is going to be relegated to 3rd down situations, then he might as well get another role. PR would be a perfect fit for him.
Liten to Jordan
He speaks the truth. Slaton is the man. Holliday is not. I’ll pack his bags for him. Thank you. Later!
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
The Survey Says......
How can you suggest putting TH on the practice squad? What benefit would that be for any one on the team? This guy has played college ball and now pro ball. He has always had fumble problems so what makes you thing that the practice squad will change that.
Hears the deal: HE HAS SMALL HANDS! That makes it more difficult to hand on to the ball. Look at most of the QB’s who’ve had fumble problems…small hands.
by thetruthhurtsbuddy on Aug 24, 2010 7:42 AM CDT reply actions
Via Houston Texans Tweet
“Holliday will have surgery tomorrow (for a torn ligament in his thumb).”
- Coach Kubiak on rookie Trindon Holliday (he’s out for the year)
LOCK IT DOWN
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Whoever said IR...
….good show sir! clap clap
Earl Campbell is the perfect combination of assmass and weightspeed. - Papabear
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
