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The Houston 26: Projecting The Starters

Normally, I like to go through the roster battles and update the performance of our battlers on Monday mornings. Given that the starting units should be, more or less, locked in after the third pre-season game, I'm instead going to give my predictions about the Houston 26. Why 26? Twenty-six would represent the 11 starters on offense and defense to go along with a kicker, punter, kick returner, and punt returner. Join me after the jump to see which 26 I believe – to emphasize: this is what I believe should happen based on game performance - the Texans should start.

Star-divide

OFFENSE:
QB - Matt Schaub
RB - Arian Foster
FB - Vonta Leach
WRs - Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter
TE - Owen Daniels
OTs - Duane Brown and Eric Winston
OGs - Mike Brisiel and Antoine Caldwell
C - Chris Myers

Honestly, Andre Johnson was on the bubble but dragging cornerbacks just made me think that this kid had something special. All jokes aside, 10 of these 11 starters should merit no explanation. I list Leach as a starter, but the Texans work in a number of two TE sets and three WR sets so we'll see plenty of Joel Dreessen, Jacoby Jones, and, potentially, James Casey, since there is a snap count on Daniels for the opener. In other words, the talent of the skill positions allow Kubiak and Dennison to present a number of dangerous looks that we have yet to see.

The key spot is left guard. I chose to start Mike Brisiel, on play alone, over Wade Smith and Kasey Studdard. From what I've seen in these three games, Studdard misses a lot of blocks, Smith gets knocked back half the time on pass protection, and Brisiel is a mauler. Mike struggles slightly on pass blocking, but he makes a lot of impressive blocks in the run game – including some big seal off blocks against Dallas that helped free up Arian Foster. To me, Mike has earned his former position, which allows Wade to be nice depth along the interior line should the injury bug rear its ugly head.

Of course, I wouldn't be surprised, especially given the fact that he's started the past two games, if Wade Smith were starting at LG with Brisiel as the top G/C reserve. Wade hasn't done a poor job, but I think Brisiel has been a little bit better at the point of attack.

DEFENSE
DEs - Mario Williams and Antonio Smith
DTs - Shaun Cody and Amobi Okoye
LBs - Zac Diles, DeMeco Ryans, and Darryl Sharpton
CBs - Kareem Jackson and Glover Quin
Ss - Eugene Wilson and Bernard Pollard

Again, no surprises here. I fully believe that the coaches wanted Danny Clark to win the temporary linebacker job, but the best laid plans of Kubiak and staff oft go awry. The injuries to Clark and Xavier Adibi opened the door for the good Reverend, and he was never really challenged. Adibi is supposed to play Thursday, but I don't see anything changing here.

In my perfect world, Diles would slide to the strongside and be involved in nickel situations due to his cover skills. Sharpton would be on the weakside and doesn't worry me at all. This defense has produced two linebackers who have won the NFL's Defensive Rookie of the Year award since 2006. Is Sharpton the third? Probably not, but this team knows how to draft and develop LBs, so I believe they can manage.

Kubiak said on Sunday that they'll move Sharpton and Adibi to the strongside, but I'm still taking Diles, Ryans, and Sharpton, regardless of position, as my three starters come Week One. I think that's pretty much a lock barring some strange happening on Thursday.

SPECIAL TEAMS
K - Neil Rackers
P - Matt Turk
KR - Steve Slaton
PR - Jacoby Jones

I know the K and KR will be open to competition through the Tampa game, but I am naming Rackers the kicker now. Rackers has performed well, but I made the choice because A) Shankapotamus is one miss away from having the town put a bounty on his head and B)
Kubiak made talk of a plantar fasciitis injury for Brown. The mere mention of an injury that could show up later makes me go with the 100% healthy kicker over someone with a built-in excuse.

Steve Slaton in space is my choice to return kicks, as it gets more use out of him and allows him to contribute more on the field. I do get scared about him holding on after a big hit, but his ability to move in space, based on what we've seen in his few, scant returns, is exactly what you want out of a kick returner. With Slaton out on Thursday, the door is open for Sherrick McManis. Jacoby's my punt returner only because I don't know who else could do it. Honestly, I would rather see someone else return punts aside from Jacoby so he can avoid big hits on special teams and focus on being a receiver. Anyone else agree?

Sound off on my wild speculation below. Any concerns? Disagree? Who is your favorite in the kickoff returner battle? Do you like your Houston 26?

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I would like Jacoby to focus on watching games on Sunday at home

But that’s neither here nor there. I do think for the most part the team’s starting positions are already set. Wilson for sure will be the starting FS, but i’d kinda like to see Nolan play just because Wilson is getting long in the tooth and you can never count on him for a full season anymore… and if it’s that good a chance that your reserve will be starting at the end of the year when games really matter, i’d rather see him start the full 16 to get as much experience as possible…. I have less faith in Wilson playing a full season than I do Jacoby Jones typing a complete sentence on twitter.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Not that Jones is a total D-bag

So far he hasn’t griped much about not being a starter and hasn’t caused any waves as far as I know… it’s just that he’s pretty much the stereotypical NFL WR to a tee and the exact type of WR most everyone here at one time or another has commented about being glad Andre Johnson not being… Simple logic tells you that if you’re glad person A has little likeness to person B, then there’s something about B that you just don’t like… i’m just not shy about putting voice behind it.

Once the season starts, i’ll root for Jones to have as good a season as he possibly can because it’s in the best interest of the team, but i’d rather have a team full of Andre Johnson type personalities than Jacoby Jones’.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reading comphrehenson FTL

I wasn’t implying anyone agreed with me that Jacoby Jones is a TO-level bad egg… heck I even stated that I didn’t even think he was a TO-level bad egg when I said he’s not a total D-bag and so far hasn’t been much of a trouble maker on the team.

Maybe you feel that way, but there have been alot of people say that one of the reasons they like Andre so much isn’t just what he does on the field, but that he does it with his mouth shut, doesn’t trash talk too much, and doesn’t glory hound in the media… People has said it’s “refreshing” that Andre is a quite soft-spoken WR, but apparantly it’s also refreshing for Jacoby to be the common stereotype at WR who is the exact opposite personality type of an Andre Johnson… Sorry but that doesn’t jive.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

What exactly is this WR Stereotype you speak of then?

And you stated that you didn’t think he was a total d-bag and didn’t cause any trouble to the team “that you know of,” which is sorta a phrase that says to me “I bet it happened.”

And why can’t you appreciate both types of personalities? Is there something wrong with liking people who are different than you?

by riversmccown on Aug 30, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Actually

It’s just to protect myself from the people like yourself who’d come here and say “aha! You are wrong he did X, Y, and Z!”… I wasn’t aware of any real problems he created so stated so…

You want to invoke journalistic integrity again, if you don’t know something to be an absolute you don’t present it at so. I make no journalistic claims nor integrity in any form, it’s just common decency not to try to convince someone you know all when you don’t… If you go back and read some of my responses, I use “to my knoledge” and “as far as I know” quite a bit.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't aware we were playing 20 questions

And if anyone is trolling it is you, “Boring making it personal troll is boring.”… I don’t even know what that means, is it even meant to mean anything or did you just randomly string words together?

To answer your questions since you’re dying to know… the WR stereotype I speak of is the “diva” personality, the “hey everybody look at me!”, just because TO has those traits doesn’t mean TO IS that stereotype. He’s a breed onto himself, MOST NFL players aren’t as selfish and destructive to their teams as TO is so it would be pointless to use him as an example of a stereotype when there’s perhaps only 3-4 guys even in the same league in douche bagery as TO.

There’s nothing wrong with appreciating both personalities, however if you did you probably wouldn’t make comments along the line of “i’m glad x player has perxonality A instead of B”….

Really if you want your questions to be taken seriously you need to work on their relevance.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

So the answers were

1) It’s not okay for me to assume that you mean TO is the stereotype of a diva receiver. Which receiver is a diva that is like Jacoby then? Who is the prototype?

2) There is nothing wrong with liking different personalities, yet there continues to be something implied by “if you did you probably wouldn’t make comments [praising Andre],” however, I can’t be allowed to guess at the meaning of this, because I was so wildly off-base earlier and obviously nobody should try and read between the lines on the internet.

Gotcha.

by riversmccown on Aug 30, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

And you call me a troll

You can use TO as a stereotype of a diva if you want, but don’t include everything else that TO is that the typical “diva” WR isn’t. Take your pick, guys like Steve Smith of the panthers, Sidney Rice, DeSean Jackson, and Santonio Holmes all fit the bill in my opinion and while i’d have the same issues with them on the Texans it would be forgiven more easilly because they’re far better players.

There’s nothing implied, you don’t make comments that you’re glad one thing is specifically not another, if you didn’t have some kind of issue with that other. It’s not an assumption or implication, it’s just the way it is. If you thought both were acceptable and saw no issue with either, you probably wouldn’t even be making note of the difference of personalities as to you it wouldn’t make any difference. And if you commented on someone else’s remarks regarding it, you’d probably say something along the lines of “I don’t think it really matters how quiet or loud or selfless or self-centered a WR is” rather than "yea, I sure am glad Andre Johnson isn’t like that!. How can you not see that?

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

boo hoo

you where vague and people naturally assumed things. Poor bryan

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

assumptions are fine

But when I clarify them, maybe troll less and listen more?

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

every other post after your first was too long for me to read

but what makes you think (assume, surmise, guess, concoct, whatever synonym you feel comfortable with) that Jacoby has shown even an inkling of being a “diva” WR? He was disciplined for being immature in the past as thousands of player have been. He’s been a complete professional for the past 2 seasons on and off the field because he has imitated his role model Andre Johnson. You saying “you have more faith blah blah then Jacoby completing a sentence on twitter” is completely unrelated to football or his attitude towards the game and how he goes about it.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 30, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Only showed/showing up once on my screen.

Oh well. It was bound to happen eventually.

by Mike Kerns on Aug 30, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The two above posts

should be considered as a great example of the term AllenOUing something.

by Jordann on Aug 30, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The two above posts

should be considered as a great example of the term AllenOUing something often.

Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 30, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is ridiculous...

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is ridiculous

This is ridiculous…ly awesome.

by Jordann on Aug 30, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Everybody but Rip is banned

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Aug 30, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just want to say this...now pay attention everyone!

If by the grace of Durga, the Texans become a good football team and win a Super Bowl, we, as fans, will be worse than Patriots fans. I just have that feeling….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least we won't be worse than Red Sox & Cowturds fans

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Aug 30, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Aint that the truth

Rev can i get an AMEN?

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Errbody but rip

BFD sed he is goin ham on you foos!
remember pig pussy is pork!

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm going to

Go ahead and rec both of these, because now almost my entire monitor is filled with the gif. And it’s totally worth it.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't read my posts

But you quote me from them….

Obviously you read them and think that telling me you didn’t would hurt my lil feelings and are just arguing to argue.

Why I like or don’t like any player in the league shouldn’t be this big a deal to people. If you told me “I can’t stand Matt Schaub cause he punched out some drunk dude outside a bar”… I wouldn’t agree with you, but I wouldn’t tell you that you have to t hink he’s a swell dude either.

If I dislike Jacoby Jones for having too much nose hair, and you think it has nothing to do with football…. that’s all the more reason for you to not care at all about my disliking Jacoby insteaded of it apparrantly offending you to the core.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

and it's not at all that i care who you like or don't..

but if you’re gonna post an opinion on a FOOTBALL blog (especially one that doesn’t make any logical FOOTBALL sense, which you are clearly admitting by the whole “if i think he has too much noise hair comment”), then expect it to be met with countering opinions.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 30, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

What countering opinions

“I didn’t read your posts” isn’t a countering opinion, you’re essentially taking yourself out of the conversation before you even begin because if you haven’t kept up with the conversation you have no idea what “countering opinion” is even relevant or not.

So I guess your “opinion” is that what he says off the field or puts out on twitter should have nothing to do with whether I like or dislike the guy… well obviously I disagree… EVERYTHING you do in life matters, it’s that exact type of attitude that puts me off. It’s because of people like Jacoby acting like blooming idiots for the world to see that people have the perception of the “dumb jock” and it’s my right to approve or disapprove as I deem fit.

As for not having anything to do with football… When a guy is talking trash and taunting players after a 4 yard punt return and 3 yard reception in the preseason, what do you think is going to happen if the guy ever does become a real star? It’s also my right to dislike unsportsmanship and speak out against it.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone say JJ was a 'diva'?

I am sure most people on this blog are glad that AJ isn’t a ‘diva’, and JJ isn’t like AJ. But, that does not automatically mean he’s a ‘diva’. He has been immature, but till date I can not recall a single incident where he has acted like a ‘diva’. I personally find him and DA to have very similar personalities. As for his linguistic adventures, you might want to catch up on some NO slang to keep up with his tweets.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Aug 30, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You did allenou it

I read TO in someone elses post and in my mind put them together. It’s probably that wonderful OU education that I received

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 2:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Get a Room... Lot's of Bromance Here!!!

To hell with it. Whether a D-Bag or not he brings points to the board and if we’re making a run for Dallas come February… We need him .. now let Play Ball!!!

Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!

by TEXSON on Aug 30, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Jacoby fine...

…but I’d just like to point out that Jacoby has been arrested (for drunk driving), and that T.O. has not had any trouble with the law.

Just for facts sake, I’m not trying to intimate anything.

by thelundquist on Aug 30, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good catch.

And point relinquished. I forgot all about the al-kee-hol.

by riversmccown on Aug 30, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rookie Year

It’s a real bitch.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats fucking stupid

You yourself have admitted he has done NOTHING wrong yet. I have no issue with players being boisterous, if he starts doing things that actually hurt the team, then I’ll give a shit.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's stupid

To see players as human beings as well as athletes and form favorites and not so favorites based on how you feel about them as people? Maybe it is maybe it isn’t, but people do that all the time whether it’s “f*cking” stupid or not, and it certainly shouldn’t hurt your feeling so much that I don’t care for Jacoby’s attitude. If it doesn’t matter at all to the team and you don’t care about the human side of things, why do you care so much what I think?

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point exactly

And as individuals, you can either relate to them or not, you can either respect who they are or not… How you percieve them as people does have something to do with whether you like or dislike them on base levels.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you look at Wilson's games played over the past 4 years...

it boggles the mind why he’s still on the roster. Sure, he’s solid when out there, but a veteran who has only played a full season twice in his seven year career? Doesn’t seem reliable at all which is what the FO puts a value on.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Even when he’s healthy, the best you can say about Wilson is that he’s not a terrible liability at free safety. It’s not like he lights the world on fire even when he’s healthy. In the past 4 seasons he’s averaging playing right at around 1/2 a season per year and is only “solid” when healthy? It’s quite baffling that he’s remained on the team.. but then you also have guys like Molden who has had one major injury after the other and hasn’t done ANYTHING yet in the NFL still on the team, so maybe it’s not so unusual for the Texans.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Molden is still very young

so i could see the coaches putting up with his injuries in hopes of seeing what hes capable of before moving on. i’d give him 1 more… Maybe 2 more seasons at the current rate hes going before they give up on him.

As for Eugene Wilson id take a gander that its because we enjoy not bringing in new talent at safety (at least thru the draft) and that makes him constantly the best option we had. this of course explains nothing as to why we dont draft higher for a safety..

Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 30, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Starter money

Wade Smith is getting paid starter money… he will start.

I would also consider LS as part of special teams. Weeks apparently has that job locked up.

I can see Bentley starting week one by default. Sharpton looked hobbled last week and Adibi has to prove he can stay healthy on the walk between the locker room and field.

It's Our Time.... or something...

by bennprince on Aug 30, 2010 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd have to look at a full 53

but I find it hard to believe that Kubiak’s going to burn a spot on a long snapper especially since you can only activate 45 players on game day. That’s putting a lot of faith in keeping players healthy.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where is

Bryan Pittman when you need him.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pittman? seriously?

he’s too busy taking weight-loss diuretic’s!

by LisaK on Aug 30, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

weeks

have you seen anyone else snapping?

It's Our Time.... or something...

by bennprince on Aug 30, 2010 3:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I heard reports from early in camp

that Thor and Dressen were both taking snaps at snapper, long snapping.

A Texas Wannabe, born and raised in New Zealand. Currently located 7539 miles South west of Houston.

by distant_texans_fan on Aug 30, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

there were so many snaps in that one sentence i thought

i was looking at a convo btw rupaul and [insert random black woman here]

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weeks at LS

I agree Weeks has done all that is asked of him and has worked very hard for this. I say he gets the spot. He’s been taking all the snaps from the get go thats got to mean something, right? I’ve got my 46 jersey ready for the season to start!

by LisaK on Aug 30, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you a real woman?

Because that means we have like four female members!

/not a stalker

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
www.battleredblog.com

by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 30, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes we dig it!!

Hello the view from behind when that ball is being snapped is GREAT!! Plus Long Snapper is so under valued in the media its a position that does require a lot of precision and a good Snap is very important! To have Speed, Accuracy, and good position takes practice and commitment. But I love all positions on the team and am all the way around a crazy passionate football fan!

by LisaK on Aug 30, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have accuracy and good position...

speed is not my forte but most don’t complain ;)

Ok now that i got that innuendo out of my system.. nice to see a well informed lady… wish AM, and steph replied more often as well maybe when the season gets rolling

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

For being a woman and a BRB member.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
www.battleredblog.com

by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 31, 2010 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Are the Texans your 2nd team to route for after the Cards?

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely....both of them

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

allegedly

key word, that one

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good gawd

You guys are acting like 14 year old boys at the junior high dance.

Yes, LisaK is really a “girl.” Yes, she is nice. Now, control yourselves. Sheesh.

(I enjoyed that)

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Aug 30, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks BFD!

Hahaa its all in good fun I can dish it out and take all that they post. I have played sports with guys all my whole life plus, I fish and hunt with them too so I’m well equippid to handle all their posts!
So BFD what are you thinking now on LS position? I know its tough to have a specialist when Dreesen and Casey are both able to perform as well and don’t cost the extra roster slot. Does the fact that he has handled all the snapping duties for preseason so far have any significance?

by LisaK on Aug 30, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'll have a new post up today or tomorrow

I haven’t noticed anybody else snapping other than Weeks (can somebody correct me if I’m wrong?), though that may be more due to OD’s injury than anything else.

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http://www.battleredblog.com

by bigfatdrunk on Aug 31, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know Thor was working on it.

You are banned from Stampede Blue.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.

Hi CFHTim. You're trolling yet another SB Nation blog. Since you've been banned from several other SB Nation blogs, you don't get a warning. You get banned. If you want to get unbanned, email BBS and state your case for re-admission.

by CFHTim on Aug 31, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

In game?

No one else has LSed aside from Weeks. Thor and Dreessen can, but Weeks is the only in-game LSer.

Weeks could make it, but it’s going to depend on what Kubes does at other positions (namely will it be 5 or 6 WRs? Will it be 9 or 10 on the OL and DL?)

Whoo! Prognostibating!

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 31, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

All high and mighty eh?

It’s kinda schmexy!

bow chicka wah wah!

by Jordann on Aug 30, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO! Schmexy's my middle name!

Doorbell rings Comes to the door dressed in a Texans nightie looking to borrow a cup of sugar que that music again
Bow chicka wah wah!

by LisaK on Aug 30, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

They make a Texans nightie?

I gotta admit. That’s very hot! lol

by Jordann on Aug 31, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

PICS or it didn't happen!!!

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO!!!

Hmm… there is a possibility of a revealing! We will have to see! haha maybe as a winning celebration after beating the Colts on the 12th or the Cowgirls again on the 26th! You guys can Hold me to that too!! LMAO!!

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh lisaK I SHALL

now that i know you live somewhere in my vicinity.

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

HMMM....

Are you sure about that? I’m in AZ so I think Im a bit far from you if your in Houston or the surrounding areas. =)

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Taco Joe is in AZ

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Sep 1, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its hard to say (yes I said HARD) LMAO!

I have been a life long Cards fan and have been to camp lots and of course watch all the games and wear my jersey at least once a week year around! But I have come to absolutely love the Texans as well! Jonathan Weeks is a friend of mine so when he was signed I started following them which was the off season about the end of April. The more I read about the players, coach, and team in general the more I really started to feel drawn to this team. Battle Red Blog is amazing as well you have excellent contributors and yes all you men are quite enjoyable to read. haha! So I would have to say they are both very close to me. Even if Weeks is dropped I will still be here and be a big fan!

by LisaK on Aug 30, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait Lisa????

you have been to Cards camps? Yay i have a fellow texan fan in red bird/cowpie/raider country…. if you up in flag on a sunday you need to hit me up we can go watch the game @ granny’s! or some other sports bar in town!

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh just saw this post!

yup in in the valley just around the cornor from the stadium! did you go to beerfest after the red and whit practice?? It was great fun!!

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

stupid spelling mistakes!

Im not illiterate just was rushing to type lol

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

unfortunately no didn't get a chance.

like i said if you up in flag anytime on a sunday you gotta let me know, or just walk into grannys i will be the only individual in a Texans Jersey!

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by Taco Joe on Sep 1, 2010 6:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now you've done it....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 31, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with everything

jj isn’t close to a TO. Whom ever mentioned that angle should get raped by a rabid dog. Go share your dribble with someone who cares, which isn’t anyone on here.

I also thought bentley was a lock to start in cushings place, even though I like your lineup better.

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 10:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

No one mention TO

Except for someone accusing me of doing so when I neither mentioned his name or implied anything like it…. Apparantly wild proclomations when given voice become fact..

In related news, I am going to win the Lottery next week!

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't call you out

For not having journalistic integrity did I?

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

My bad

You didn’t mention T no. But doesn’t every team have that one wr who is at the very least border line diva. If they have talent at the position then the answer is yes

Example, Detroit has CJ and that’s about it

But JJ doesn’t ever complain, try to take his own life, dance naked with fat white guys who couldn’t block a 12 year old, etc.

JJ best case will be AJ, worst case Roy Williams

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 10:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

JJ will never be Roy Williams

He was never a first round bust who then got sold for multiple draft picks….only to still be a bust and have his team draft a WR in round 1 to replace him.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Roy Williams is a bust

He’s had 6 years in the NFL and has been named to 1 pro bowl, with 319 receptions, over 4,500 yards, and 37 TDs in those 6 seasons. He’s probably never going to be a H.O.F. caliber WR, but I wouldn’t say a player with 6 years in the league and those numbers is a bust

I also think there’s a very good chance Jacoby will never even be a Roy Williams, even if Williams stinks it up he’ll end his career with 1 pro bowl bid at WR… it’s far from a sure thing that Jones will ever achieve that status.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Millen

Agrees with this post.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not a fan of Pro Bowl = Good player

since it’s a vote for “Who appears on SportsCenter a lot.”

For what he’s done, Williams is a bust. When the Lions….the Lions of all people….decide you’re not going to help the team then that says something. He’s never lived up to the high draft pick or big contracts or draft picks the Cowboys traded for.

From a technical sense, he doesn’t use his skills really. I’m a big UT fan, but all Roy Williams ever did was run downfield and jump…often having to come back to an underthrown ball. He’s not a real good route-runner nor are his hands real dependable. I think he’s been an overrated guy since college.

When you draft a WR in the top-10, you want Calvin and Andre not Roy.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree he hasn't been

The franchise player the Lions wanted him to be when they drafted him, but as far as “busts” go, there are ALOT of first round drafted recievers who have done much less. Not living up to expectations isn’t exactly the same as being a bust.

Michael Westbrook was picked 4th overall (3 slots higher than Williams was drafted), and finished his career with less receptions, yards, and TDs than Williams has now.

Peter Warrick also was 4th overall in his draft and finished his career with 275 receptions, 3,000 yards, and 18 TDs, far less than Williams has now.

Hos about Reggie Williams, he was drafted 9th overall and has performed at a much lower level than Roy Williams.

One of the more glaring examples of a bust, Mike WIlliams (Roy’s former teamate) who was drafted 10th overal and 4 years in the league managed a whopping 44 receptions for 539 yards, and 2 TDs.

So say what you want about Roy, but in my mind any reciever who can play in the NFL and average over 50 receptions and 600 yards or so over their first 6 seasons in the league isn’t a complete bust regardless of where they were drafted or their expectations coming in.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jacoby Jones

Certainly hasn’t even come close to those numbers yet.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling you're just being contrary

But for the sake of argument, in Jacoby Jones’ first 3 seasons, he had 45 receptions for 667 yards, and 6 TDs combined…

In Roy William’s first three seasons, he had 181 receptions, 2,814 yards, and 23 TDs….

Hmmm, who had the most productive first three seasons… it’s a toss up!

All I know is that even with Williams’ declining stats the past couple seasons, if you gave me choice between Williams and Jones for the same contract, i’d take Roy Williams every day of the week. He’s a reciever that actually could challenge walter for the #2 WR spot if he resigned himself to becoming a possession reciever.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roy Williams

Was also a highly touted first round pick from a major university and an immediate starter. JJ was from Lane freaking college and projected to go 6th round to undrafted.

So of course Williams wins that contest off of more opportunities alone.

by Mike Kerns on Aug 30, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Third round picks don’t need to be productive to be good players, they can average 15-20 catches per season and be elite of the elite…

However if you were picked in the first round at WR and average over 50 receptions, 600 yards, and 6TDs over the course of your first 6 years in the league and you’re a total and complete bust who isn’t worth his weight in skittles on the football field?

I guess I just don’t get that logic. To me productive is productive, unproductive is unproductive. Williams has had a couple down seasons, but even his down years are as productive or more so than Jacoby’s best so far… Not to mention that his stats in his first season in the league were better than Jacoby’s combined stats for his first 3 years… I just don’t get it.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never called Williams a bust

Just saying comparing Jacoby Jones to Roy Williams through the first three years of their career is a little ridiculous.

Do you disagree?

by Mike Kerns on Aug 30, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adding to that

Williams was drafted to play WR1 in Detroit, as their other options at WR had flaked over recent years.

Jacoby was drafted to be a project WR, and played behind Andre, K-Walter, and (at the time) a solid Apostrophe.

I don’t see how “who had the highest stats the fastest” is even an issue in this conversation. That might be a useful exercise for Williams and Larry Fitzgerald, since they were the top 2 WRs taken in the ’04 Draft.

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I do

My thinking is after a player is in the league, where he was drafted has limited impact in what he’s going to do as a player. For any given season, you’re either good enough to be a starter or you’re not, you either make plays or you don’t…

Saying “oh he’s coming along good for a 3rd round pick” speaks of his expectations more than what he is as a player. Saying the worst Jacoby Jones could do is end up as a Roy Williams, I think is pretty silly because there’s alot of very talented recievers who would love to have had Roy Williams’ production so far in the NFL.

Expectations were certainly higher for Williams, but you can’t argue that he wasn’t better than Jacoby Jones his first 3 years or that he hasn’t been more productive, so saying that’s the worst case scenerio for Jones I think is a little wishfull thinking. That’s what I was initially responding to.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

youre comparing apples to oranges

theres not point in making this an argument… you guys are filling up the screen with too many words that dont matter… Williams COULD (pay attention there) COULD be a bust in some peoples eyes, the lions didn’t even keep him around, and traded him for draft picks to a team that wont have him starting once there rookie gets back. the thing here is now that they are both “third” receivers we will see who the better on in, bring this back up at the end of the season.
cause ill be honest, ill take JJ over RW any day of the week. (bias? probably)

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by Kiratomi on Aug 30, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But what else is there to judge who the “better” reciever is than production, atheltic ability? They’re both big WRs, Roy Williams ran a 4.37 40 and had a 39.5" verticle at the combine, Jacoby ran 4.5 with a 34" verticle in his…

All i’m saying is if Jacoby is so much better than Williams, show me something at least that indicates that. If it’s not production at the pro level or base athletic ability, what else is there?

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jacoby gets no love for his kick return ability?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

I could fumble every other punt return too.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

This I agree with

Jacoby can return kick-offs…he’s great there, but punts….wishing there were other options.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Side-note

I actually think Jacoby looks fantastic fielding punts this year.

He seems to have a real confidence, and isn’t hesitant at all going to catch the ball in the open field.

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see how Jacoby compares to others in the league on muffed punts

Muffed punts seem to be more common than what I would guess

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Aug 30, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oy....

Okay, I’m out. This is like arguing with an Apple/Mac fan boy.

Shake pretty much is saying everything I would be saying. So you guys enjoy this one…

by Mike Kerns on Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I dont see the obsession with macs!!!

really you pay 2-3xs as much for about the same product except one “doesn’t get viruses” maybe that is because with all the options for PCs more people and business use them therefore writing malicious software is more profitable for Windows OSs than Leopard….

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by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Williams accumulated those return stats over twice as many years too...

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not omitting any stats from Jacoby

I didn’t include KRs because this conversation was about his ability as a reciever not a returner.

And i’m not saying it’s hard evidence that Jacoby won’t get any better than he is now, but where’s the proof that the worst he can do is produce like a WR who has so far out produced him every step of the way? You can’t rip me for not having enough “evidence” while offering none at all yourself.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borrowing from Shake..

Jacoby had 14.8 yards/catch and 7.5 receptions/TD

Roy had 15.5 yards/catch and 7.9 receptions/TD

That’s pretty close. You cannot discard the fact that Jacoby and Williams had different responsibilities on their teams. You need to account for the fact that Jacoby has had far less opportunity than Williams.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Aug 30, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And far less $$$

But I am way too lazy to do a $$/catch or $$/TD breakdown when I’ve already diverted enough time away from work.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

And way less REC, YDS, and TDs

So using that logic, if an undrafted rookie comes in and has 2 catches for 40 yards he’ll be an even better reciever than Jacoby because he had 20 yards per catch and 2 rec/td and wasn’t even drafted at all while Jacoby was an uber high 3rd round pick?

Kind of an absurd argument imo, no offense though.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm saying

After they become “pros” it doesn’t matter what they were in college or where they were drafted, they either show up and make the plays and work their way onto the starting lineup or they don’t. I think saying “oh this guy was good for a 3rd round pick” is really more directed at the scouting department, coaches and GM for making smart draft decisions…

When it comes down to it though, Jones is not a better reciever than Roy Williams is, so it’s silly to say that’s the worst he could become.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

That’s why Williams got a contract worth millions as a rookie, and Jacoby one worth thousands.

The owners and coaches obviously agree with you regarding expectations.

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It didn't stop Colston

From becoming a contributor right away. What a player becomes in the NFL and how fast they do it is on them more than it is where they were drafted or how they came into the league.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at the situation though....

The Saints had traded Stallworth to the Eagles and Colston went from #3 WR to starter.

Like Shake said, Jacoby was 4th on the depth chart…if that.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He started off not even guarunteed a roster spot

Moved up the depth chart and a WR drafted higher was cut before the roster deadline to make room for him… I’d say Colston wasn’t even expected to be #5 WR before training camp….

Which again leads to my opinion that the players make themselves into what they’re going to be, way more than their draft status does.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really

You’re using exceptions to the rule to prove a point about validity?

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

Because exceptions to the rule are when players work their azzes off to prove they’re better than what everyone else though of them.

Jacoby had every opportunity Colston did, probably even more so because he was drafted in the 3rd round in a year that the team was really looking for a solid #2 WR, Walter hadn’t solidified that spot yet. Then Andre Johnson missed several games and Andre Davis became the WR to start in place of him. Jacoby played some,battle some little injuries and some serious inconsistencies and was doing good to see time at WR at all.

You can’t say he didn’t have opportunity though, he just didn’t or couldn’t take advantage of it.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously you are good with minor sample sizes

Because no matter the situation on a team, most rookie WRs drafted in the 3rd or higher (or undrafted) do not become starters.

By your logic, even Rudy Ruettiger didn’t work hard enough after he was given the opportunity to play for Notre Dame.

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok then...

Players who were drafted in the 3rd round or later who started 10 or more games their rookie season….

  • Marques Colston (7th) 70 REC 1,038 YDS 8 TD
  • Wayne Crebet (undrfted) 66 REC 726 YDS 4TD
  • Bill Brooks (4th) 65 REC 1131 YDS 8 TD
  • Darrell Jackson (3rd) 53 REC 713 YDS 6 TD

And to save space, some of the others include Willie Jackson (4th), Oronde Gadsen (undfted), Bobby Johnson (undrfted), Andre Reed (4th), Anthony Carter (12th), Floyd Dixon (6th), Terrence Wilkins (undrfted), Terrell Owens (3rd), Willie Green (8th), Chris Sanders (3rd), and Rod Barksdale (undfted)….

You’re right it just doesn’t happen in the NFL…

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're forgetting the other part to that equation

How many total WRs have there been drafted past round 3?

Who is to say Jacoby won’t put up big numbers this season?

This entire argument is ridiculous. People are cherry picking results, comparing 1st round expectations to 3rd round expectations, not really listening to the other side…….

You don’t like Jacoby. That’s fine. Ain’t gotta like him…ain’t gotta be entertained by his antics……a lot of people here have someone they don’t like, but come Sundays as long as you’re rooting for him to play his best and cheering when he makes plays that’s what matters….that’s why we’re here….to root for the Houston Texans and hope to Durga that the final 53 work their asses off and get Houston crazed with playoff fever and, hopefully, a championship.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weird

I thought I said “most”, not “never”. Yet you accuse me of dealing in absolutes.

But yes, 15 out of hundreds of WRs (that were not taken in R1-R2) obviously proves that it is more the norm than the exception. Well played.

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not many WRs chosen in the first 2 rounds

Start their rookie seasons either… The point isn’t how many success stories are their compared to busts, it’s whether it really matters that a player is chosen in a late round or not at all. The obvious answer is no it doesn’t, the limitations the reciever faces are his own and those brought on by the team’s situation at that position.

If a player who isn’t drafted at all can gain a thousand recieving yards and 8 TDs his rookie season, i’d venture to say that it’s possible for a 3rd round reciever to catch more than 50 receptions in his first 3 seasons combined. He’s not forced into be unproductive because he was drafted in the 3rd round, he has been unproductive as a reciever because he’s been inconsistent and at times shown disinterest in showing up for team meetings and has been held back by his coaches for both reasons, each were within his control to overcome, he simply didn’t. Enough making excuses for lack of production.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's been quite a few more than 15

I just didn’t fill the page up with a list of names.. but over the past 25 years there have been 34 players chosen in the 3rd round or lower to start the majority of their rookie seasons… so better than once per year on average there’s a reciever chosen in the mid to late rounds who plays a significant role on his team as a starter… In my opinion if it happens every year on average, it can’t be but so rare.

Sure there’s alot of reciever who don’t pan out but there’s alot of 1st and 2nd round picks who don’t play much their rookie season as well… during those same 25 years 50 first and 2nd round recievers didn’t start a single game for their team…

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

But their situations do matter

Jacoby wasn’t drafted to start whereas Roy was. It’s kind of ridiculous to compare their statistics because it’s not apples to apples (Roy Wiliams to Larry Fitzgerald) but Golden Delicious Apples to Red Galas.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Granny Smith is going to kick your ass

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Golden Delicious...

the name says it all. Who wants to eat a Granny?

/could not lob a softball up any easier.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope your granny reads this and slaps you....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve Carell?

But only after he marries her.

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by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Galas are the superior apple

That is all.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way.

They are obsolete.

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by Xiane on Aug 30, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The better question to ask is about targets, catch rate and success rate per catch.

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by Xiane on Aug 30, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jacoby also hasn't played 6 seasons either nor was he a 1st round pick or big school product

so the expectations for him are different than the ones for Roy.

I see where you can see Roy as not a bust, but I definitely don’t think he’s lived up to the hype which you also see.

Mike may be on the comeback trail, he’s had a good pre-season in Seattle.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I said he lived up to expectations or hype?

" I agree he hasn’t been the franchise player the Lions wanted him to be when they drafted him"

I thought I said that…

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I said that

I said that I don’t think he’s lived up to the hype which you also see. Never said you saw differently.

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by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe I misread then

I saw that as you see he didn’t live up to the hype but I do… but looking at it again perhaps you meant that i was in agreement with you just in a way I don’t usually see so was confused.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

The point is

That like Allen Iverson, he is supposed to be franchise player. Jacoby? Not so much.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I was the FO of the Lions, I would have jumped at the offer from the Cowturds for Roy Williams, too!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Lions' ineptitude rolls downhill

not surviving that organization is hardly an indictment… for anyone

by Cut Block on Aug 31, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

He just drives drunk and take the chance of killing an innocent bystander in doing so.

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by xmant2000 on Aug 30, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're drifting

Towards trolling. The post, as you may recall, is about the starting roster of our favorite football team. TO, mercifully, is not on this football team. Jakespeare, our resident wordsmith, clearly resides on another cognitive plane but has yet to create self-actualizing T-Shirts. I think some people are implying that your phrase “stereotypical NFL WR” implies towards the TO, and that by invoking a euphemism for TO, you invoked TO. Or, if you prefer, a Chad Ochocinco/TO/Brandon Marshall/Randy Moss hybrid stereotype (i.e., a self-aggrandizing twitter nut with a taste for pot and domestic violence). It’s probably not a bad idea to just nip this whole discussion in the bud before it goes farther afield, gets dumber.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...

When reading my comments about Jacoby Jones that had no mention or implication of Terrel Owens at all, some people immediately make a connection between the two on their own… and it’s somehow my fault?

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to me he's not

If he is in your head… well that’s in your head..

You can’t blame me for every random thought that occurs in your noggin… I mean seriously!

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

As evil as I am

I’m not responsible for people reading stereoptypical WR and thinking Terrel Owens… to me he’s not stereotypical at all, Owens is one of the 2% of top notch douche bags at any position, there’s nothing stereotypical about that.

He has some “diva” qualities, but it’s those specific qualities that are the stereotype, not all the rest of TO’s baggage that makes him a terrible teamate… the fact that I stated that Jacoby is not a total douchebag should have been your first clue that I wasn’t comparing him to TO…

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Point is

You’re getting all hot and bothered that I said something that made you think about TO… that has almost nothing to do with me and is a bit childish.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Several people thought of TO when you said that

then you got all whiny because people would dare jump to that conclusion.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

whiny?

All I did was point out that I wasn’t comparing the two or insinuating Jacoby is TO-level of douchebagery as I was accused as I said in my initial comment that I didn’t think he was a total douchebag and that he wasn’t disruptive to the team….

After that point all i’ve been doing is responding to posts further accusing me of doing so, and blaming me for their thinking of TO when they read “stereotypical WR” and mistakenly assumed that meant all of the other traits TO has that are far from stereotypical…

If anyone is guilty of “whining”, it certainly hasn’t been me. I’m just responding to what’s been directed at me, what else should I do? If anyone is “whining” i’d think it’d be the posters who’re unable to accept that they misinterpreted something written and instead continue to berate the person who made those comments in the hopes of muddying hte waters enough that it’s at least more difficult to see their own dirt.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, no whining at all

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol, that's like a catch 22

I post something, someone else doesn’t like it so write a response… If I respond to those responses and attempt to clear up misinterpretations i’m being “whiny”, and if I say nothing at all I get called out for having nothing to say…

So basically you decide you don’t like something I say so everything I say from that point on is wrong either one way or the other…. very grown up of you.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think all of this started because you won’t clarify what you mean by stereotypical wr. when someone says “like to” you say “I didn’t say that!” but don’t clarify what you meant. so all I’m asking if jacoby symbolizes the “typical” wr “diva” what did you mean?!

btw I think this conversation is invalid because regardless of his skills at wr, jacoby’s mastery of the English language alone makes him one of the best players on the team.

on another note, how do you feel about david Anderson?

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by WhimpyJimmy on Aug 30, 2010 4:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

*that is “so you mean jacoby is like t.o.?”
it’s hard to write that on my phone

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by WhimpyJimmy on Aug 30, 2010 4:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually I did

Several times over because no one is listening.

David Anderson and Jacoby Jones are two different animals… Anderson is the team clown while Jacoby is all about Jacoby. Anderson might play jokes on his teamates, but you don’t see him trash talking on 4 yard punt returns or dancing a jig on a 3 yard reception… and when he does joke it’s usually inclusive while Jocoby is exlusive.. When Jacoby talks it’s always about Jacoby…. I don’t know how to explain it better than that, it’s just a personality type that’s always been tough for me to relate to.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry but Jacoby is all about Jacoby is dead wrong

when you get camp reports about how Jacoby is pulling rookies to the side and giving them tips. How Jacoby is among the first welcoming them to the team after the draft. How Jacoby invited his teammates to get homecooking in New Orleans.

The kid’s made some boneheaded moves, but saying he’s all about Jacoby when there’s documented proof that he helps his teammates and does his best to help the whole bonding thing…..that’s just dumb.

You don’t like it cause there’s unnecessary flash. I wouldn’t be surprised if you said you hated 1st down celebrations (which isn’t a bad thing, but still).

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Speaking of dumb first down celebrations

I friggin’ hate Cris Carter. He jumped the shark with that.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

Cause i’ve never read a fluff piece in the offseason before that turned out to be completely untrue… that’s not even possible.

I’ll believe it when I see it, not when I hear it from a guy, who heard it from a guy, who heard from another guy, who heard from a guy who claimed to have seen it.

And actually that’s a good point, I fuggin hate 1st down celebrations. Huge gains I get, Touchdowns I get, but to dance a jig everytime you get a first down is retarded to me.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, now I get where you're coming from....

can’t speak for everyone else, but I understand at least.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry I didn't hear you I was flexing

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He just looks ridiculously short

but damn if he ain’t good.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have heard from a girl who was dating

a guy I worked with who had a friend who got busy with him. She said he wasn’t short. Do you want to know this? Probably not but I can’t really keep this kind of knowledge to myself can I?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why does Bryan compare TO to JJ, is what I want to know?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 31, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If not TO, then who would you suggest?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 30, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why

Do you reply to yourself so frequently..?

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets not go there

Bryan likes to use a lot of words when he replies to people, other people think he should use less, its been argued to death and really will benefit no one to start that argument again.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

My bad

Must’ve missed that thread.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't a thread

it was a holy war spread across weeks worth of threads.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was only stopped by the grace of Patrick Willis

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 30, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was stopped

because Bryan took his ball and went home. Although that probably did take the intervention of Patrick Willis to occur.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

^This

But now he’s back.

by Jordann on Aug 30, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because

I hit post then think of something else I want to say…

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love.

Replying to myself too!

/trolling

by Jordann on Aug 30, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok Bryan here is my problem...

like everyone else i believe you are being unfair to Jakespeare. a) yes he is a character but more of a Chad Ochocinco where you just want to laugh at him not a TO where you wish he would have not had 25 million reasons to live. b) the comparison of him to Roy Williams is kind of dumb. yes Roy has put some ok numbers up, but he was drafted by the Lions to be an instant number 1 receiver, was later traded to dallas because Jerrah had to have him side by side with his idol TO. Jacoby on the other hand was drafted high three yes, but at the time we had Andre FRIGGIN Johnson, Kevin Walter, Apostrophe as our 1,2,3.. he was drafted as a project WR not instant starter, yes he could have instantly out done Andre Davis but there was no way he was taking AJs or K-dubs spot. Even if he was larry fitzgerald he would have been a number 2 receiver. Now he is getting his shot as the number three receiver. he is gonna get a lot more looks and a lot more throws. Unless the cowpies (or any other team that stupid;y choose to) decide to go mano y mano on Andre Johnson. If it is his tweets then fine i understand that, thus is the reason for our cult following of his tweets here on BRB, because they are some of the most outlandish things i/we have ever read. If you want straight out performance i say let him have this year before you demand him to be traded or cut.

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by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'ed that one

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 30, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only surprise here

To me is Rackers over Brown at K. I had assumed Kubiak would stick with the devil he knew over Rackers, but hadn’t heard about the injury. Of course it’s plantar fascilitis, it’s like the official low grade injury of the Houston Texans.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I think Kubiak may stick with Brown if things end equally

but the talk of a potential injury, when the competition is equal, made me swing to Rackers (although, admittedly I am pro-Rackers). The pressure’s on for these guys…and you can tell when they’re running down making special team tackles. The good thing is with the second and third team running things…there should be plenty of kicking opportunities on Thursday.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think without an injury, it’s Brown. I’m actually fine with that, he bounced back here after stumbling in Pittsburgh, there’s no reason to think he can’t do it again. I hate him as a person for damaging my psyche, but if he kicks well again I’ll probably forgive him.

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can think of one place where Brown shines over Rackers

That is kickoff coverage. Brown can get after it. I’m sure you all saw him make that tackle on the returner around the 50-yard line. Dude has some speed and is not afraid to put the shoulder down!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I missed that one

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tackle Watch

Rackers has 1 and an assist while Brown also has 1.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

DONE..competition over

haha no but Browns tackle the other night was a pretty much a perfect form tackle. I still got Rackers winning this thing.

by leacheatsbabies on Aug 30, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tackled well with the Cardinals

Not sure the stats and too tired to look em up right now but from watching the games and knowing his past he has had quite a few good tackles. I even believe that for awhile there he was told to back off of the tackles because they didnt want their kicker to get hurt. LOL

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rackers missed one in the Cowbitches Game

Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!

by TEXSON on Aug 30, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow...

after the request from one of our lovely lady posters (I believe it was Steph S) i stopped calling them the Cowgirls… but now because of you Texson I will start calling them Cowbitches!!!

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Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That wasn't on her list, but I don't see how she could protest this...

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont think she would either.

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Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like it!

If that matters at all! COWBITCHES it is!!!

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was actually a pretty good tackle

He’s no Matt Turk, but still.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 31, 2010 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with JimboT on this one, I think Brown has the job at this point

The first I heard of the plantar fascitis in the non-kicking foot was this AM on the radio. As a former soccer player, I love to watch the kickers’ pregame warm up routine. On Saturday night Brown showed a stronger leg than Rackers. They both missed more kicks (all of which are uncontested) than one would like to see, but Brown showed 57-58 yard potential while Rackers could barely get it there from 52.

May have been my imagination (didn’t check the film yet) but I thought Brown had slightly bertter depth and hang time on his KO’s. Our coverage was as bad as it has been in recent years, but KB did register a nice hit early, while Rackers had a chance later but completely whiffed. In his defense it would have been a head on tackle, while Brown’s was from the ideal lateral angle where the tackler absorbs little to no impact.

When Rackers was signed I was high on him, but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t have the leg strength he used to have and is no more accurate than KB. My vote goes to Brown unless the plantar tendon becomes too inflamed for him to plant. He looked to be moving well on his tackle Saturday night.

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by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 30, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll say this again about 50+ yard FGs

Average kickers only attempt about 4 of them a season. That can’t be what you base this competition on because it’s such a rare occurrence.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not

If you’re Brad Childress

by JimboTexan on Aug 30, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

That

And fuck it, go for it on 4th from the 35-yd line.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's 4th and long from the 37-38 yardline late in the 4th quarter tied or down by 1-3 with less than a minute to play

You have to go for it with Rackers because he’s maxed out at 52-53. Brown was money in 2007 with 5-5 from 50+. Overall 9-12 in the last 3 seasons from 50+. I do think it is a significant factor in a race as close as this.

I can see Rackers wearing down late in the season and his average KO going to the 5-7 yard line. I’m confident that Brown will continue to give the coverage team a chance with better hang time and depth as the season wears on.

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

re: significant factor

I completely understand your view. And in that situation, there is no argument that the head-case with a better leg is the only option from 55 yds out.

But I also believe that the phrase “significant factor in a race as close as this” is not true. Because it just isn’t that often of an occurrence for this scenario to play out. So I don’t think it should play into the decision as even a top-10 of deciding factors.

That would be like choosing your 5th WR (assuming that’s the last roster spot) because he is the fastest of the 2 guys to choose from, and you might have to throw a hail-mary pass with 3 seconds left. And as icing on the cake, you cut the guy who is a little slower but has much better hands, runs cleaner routes, and has a higher catch-rate.

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by Shake on Aug 31, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree with your position

Rackers may, heavy emphasis on the may, be better in the clutch than KB. We all suffered through Browns series of clutch shanks last year, but Rackers had several gaffes in the playoffs for the Cards. Missed from 34 vs GB, and was just fortunate that it didn’t cost them the game.

I watched them both warm up before the Dallas game. KB has a stronger leg. This is not only a plus on long FG’s but on KO’s as well.

Compare their stats. There’s very little difference in career FG pct with Rackers at 78.2 and Brown at 77.3. OK that’s about completely meaningless considering the length of their careers. Let’s just look at the last 3 years. Rackers is 62 of 75 for 82.7% and Brown is 75 of 94 for 79.8%. Rackers made only 70% in 2007. Brown made an abysmal 65.6% last year, his career low. I just don’t see that happening again this year. He looks to be kicking much more consistently so far this year. Of course pregame warmups during preseason pale in comparison to regular game action, but thus far there has been no difference in their in game preseson kicking. Beil made a long FG vs NO, but barely. Brown made a 43 yarder in the same game that had 15 yards to spare, right down the middle.

You discount the importance of 50+ FG’s but Brown’s 9 of 12 in the last 3 years is significantly better than Rackers 4 of 11. You say that the frequency of such kicks makes it unimportant, but if only 2-3 games per year are decided by a long FG, then I say that is very significant.

Rackers has a recent injury history. Several muscle problems last year. His KO distance in the 1st 3 games is not what it was last year; 14 TB’s in 65 KO’s vs Brown’s 10 of 82 TB’s. Despite the current plantar problem, which hasn’t seemed to slow KB down, Brown has been consistently healthy for his career.

Unless Brown’s health is worse than what we’ve been told, or he has a stinker Thursday night, he will be the kicker this year because he has the stronger leg and is not significantly less accurate than Rackers.

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 31, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree

and hope you’re wrong. We’ll see on Friday.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 31, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

TDC, I just want the best kicker to be out there this season

When Rackers was brought on board I was convinced that he would win the job, but all I had to go on was his stats and a few times I saw come Cards’ games. From what I’ve seen over the last month, I am not convinced that he is a more complete package than KB, nor is he less likely to break our hearts by turning into a shankapotamus in crunch time.

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 1, 2010 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

No problem

And for a bottle of 18+ year old Scotch, I could probably be swayed to join your side of the debate.

And I agree with you about kickoffs being a factor, as field position is always an issue in helping decide a game.

But at this point in my Houston fandom (is that a word?), I am absolutely terrified by the thought of potentially having another Brad Lidge as our “closer” in tight games. So terrified, that I would rather gamble on the guy who was 16/17 last year (and accounting for his previous bad year(s)).

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by Shake on Sep 1, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

What Shake said

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 31, 2010 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's no bandwagon, Mike

It’s just the Arian Nation. 6 YPC during the pre-season. If that doesn’t make you giddy then nothing will.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have no problem eating crow.

I did when I was wrong about Mario and even about Carr.

And, technically, Foster hasn’t done anything yet. But I now believe that he can, whereas I didn’t before.

by Mike Kerns on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely has to prove it

do think he’s shown a lot during his pre-season run. I am surprised by how good a receiver he’s shown to be really……he just has to work and become such a star that they sell foam deep steel blue pterodactyls for kids.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

The colts D won't be much of a test

Wash and Dal should tell us all we need to know. If he falters, JJ could very well pic up the slack

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 12:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

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by Xiane on Aug 30, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even Thought I cannot get drunk, I shall scream Veeek anyways!

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by Schlauton on Aug 30, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about getting high?

Just trying to brainstorm some alternatives for ya…

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prime example

of pulling an AllenOU!

by Jordann on Aug 30, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Contributing to the delinquency, much?

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 30, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait

I thought you were the one who lived in a hippie commune.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he meant

It’s physically impossible for him to get drunk. As in, he could drink all the bourbon in Tennessee and not feel it.

Bastard.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 31, 2010 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

No TGC that is me...

I am an angel like the one of dogma except I have a penis… that way my children will be half angel half human and we can repopulate the world after 2012…

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Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, you have properly shamed yourself, you dissed Arian Foster, and now you want to have his child.

….did I go too far?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Aug 30, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That asshole TDC

clearly it’s time for Matt Turk to retire. Damn 142 year old.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

He's still

The most accurate 35 yard punter in the game though…. Doesn’t have the biggest leg in the world but he’s pretty solid at limiting the return with his kicks.

by Bryan72076 on Aug 30, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

AND

Spencer Tillman loves Turk’s yellow shoes.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crap

I was already dreading boring pre-season game #4…now you reminded me that I have to listen to Spencer Tillman too. Thanks, Shake.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

I’m still confused by Gus Johnson’s “nice and cool statement” about the Houston weather. Did he not realize the roof was closed and the AC was on?

Light years ahead of Tillman I know, but that comment really baffled me.

"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair

by papabear on Aug 30, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

other little known fact

Phil Simms had to wear shin guards to protect himself from Gus’ humping….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

and knee pads....

to maintain the constant fellatio of the cowturds…..and I bet those knee pads were worn through by the end of the game.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Aug 30, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cha

Ching.

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 30, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although

He didn’t wear them against the Cowgirls :(

I'm the best there is at what I do.

by xmant2000 on Aug 30, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Roy williams

Is on my jwml fantasy team

And boom goes the dynamite!

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 2:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Off-topic

It sucks when a player you touted is doing well elsewhere….

Case in point? I said if the Texans had to go for a small DT, they should’ve drafted Georgia DT Geno Atkins. Atkins leads the pre-season with 4.5 sacks. EMFM better start contributing….

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we discussed this

But I liked Adkins too, and since he was undersized, I was like “this guy is for sure a Texan”

But the preseason is meaningless right

He is going to be a stud I think. He will have lots of talent around him in cinci and he’s on of many reasons I actually like the bengals this year. Good call

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 5:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

bfd took the cookies

He wants to fatten up some of the DTs.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fixed
He wants to fatten up some of the DTs some damn cookies.

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 30, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chocolate chip

or snickerdoodles. I’m a sucker for any woman who provides food or beer.

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 31, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

This Thread

Was just about the biggest waste of time ever because of the arguing between posters hijacking the thread. This Jacoby Jones crap should have been moved to a different thread by a moderator. Does this blog even have those?

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by xmant2000 on Aug 30, 2010 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Get used to it.....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I think one or more of the posters was a moderator!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Aug 30, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two by my count

Eat that buddy!!!

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 6:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wait Allen

I didn’t know you knew how to cook… what am i eating?

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by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude

it’s called the page down button

by killtacular on Aug 30, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technically

Jacoby was mentioned in the OP. Not really a good example of hijacking.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 30, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty standard

Also pretty standard is other posters making fun of everyone and inserting humorous gifs into the discussion.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 31, 2010 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is why

I read the whole thread! Time consuming but along with good opinions there is also a lot of good entertainment too!

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Paul kuharsky via twitter says

Kubiak told him that RG is still up for grabs between Caldwell and brisel. And had good things to say about wade smith apparently, so I guess he is the starter. I thought he looked kinda not so good, but maybe I’m wrong

by AllenOU on Aug 30, 2010 7:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't get why Kubiak is flip-flopping on this

He, all but, declared Caldwell his starting RG. Caldwell’s performed very well…I think he’s worlds better than last season…and now he’s backtracking and saying Brisiel’s in the mix at RG….Kubes has to make up his mind. Starters need to get set on offense and defense to begin building that chemistry.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 30, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who is this lady?

and where can i get a pair of shorts that say “I never let a cowboy fan touch this!”?

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Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Prefer Jacoby to Come of the Bench as a Reciever

It will lengthen his career and will keep defenses from keying on him. He should have 10 all purpose TD’s this season.

Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!

by TEXSON on Aug 30, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Other than PK, I completely agree with your picks TDC

KB has shown more leg, and unless his plantar fascitis gets out of hand, I expect to see him back.

Brisiel has played well enough to regain his position. KW deserves to be WR2 and JJ will get plenty of plays because we go with 3 WR’s frequently. I look for Jacoby to have a breakout season this year. OD is on a low play count, so both Dreesen and Casey will get plenty of chances.

I know Kubiak will give Adibi a chance to earn the WLB job on Thursday, but he will have to do a lot to pass Darryl. The rest of the D is a pretty well locked in.

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by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 30, 2010 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

you really think Neil Rackers wins the job?

because I REALLY hope so

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore

by HB23 on Aug 30, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

ME TOO!!

I love Rackers! was quite sad to see him out of AZ, but damn was quite giddy to see him in Houston I hope he stays!

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 3:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Slaton

Wore a walking boot in practice. Does that sound more serious than turf toe to anyone?

by Mike Kerns on Aug 31, 2010 6:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Probably not

You want to immobilize the injury along with RICE.

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 31, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oops

Rice:
R-Rest
I-Ice
C-Compression
E-Elevation

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 31, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was hoping he just had a bunch of actual rice

in his boot

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What kind? There's so many to choose from????

Fried, steamed, uncooked, white rice, brown rice, mexican style, rice pudding…. the list goes on and on!!! HAHAHAHAH

by LisaK on Aug 31, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

was thinking Japanese fermented kind

But I’d settle for some fried, spanish, or maybe a nice little chicken w/rice and carrot dish…

by NWestTexan on Aug 31, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

DIRTY RICE,

or Jumbalya, or Gumbo… god i miss cajun food!!!! EFFIN AZ not having any knowledge of what real seafood is… actually i will be back in Texas in JAN/FEB time frame gonna eat a shitload of alligator tail and cajun food and maybe some shark!!!

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Sep 1, 2010 6:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

This thread was ruined with JJ comparisons

All these examples of WRs being drafted late and still starting and putting up numbers immediately is pissing me off. JJ came onto a team with two established starters in a limited role. Roy Williams was brought into to be a game changer immediately and STILL has never showed that he can do that consistently. Let me be clear: ROY WILLIAMS IS A BUST!!!! No if, ands or buts about it. BUST is defined as completely under performing in relation to your Draft position, salary or potential. Roy Williams has done nothing but under shoot ALL of these. Jacoby Jones, on the other hand, could have never proved himself as a legit WR and only returned punts effectively and it would not be considered fine with the FO but instead he has OVERACHIEVED and proved he can play multiple positions well.

by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 31, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

According to McClain (read into it what you will)….

Wade Smith has won the LG starting spot.
He THINKS a tie between Rackers and Brown goes to RACKERS.
Kevin Bentley is going to the strongside is his GUESS.
THINKS Earl Mitchell will start week one (WTF?!)
Is fairly certain that the Texans will pick up a waiver wire RB and kick the tires on waiver wire OT and DT for reserve positions.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 31, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn it

That means a tie goes to Brown

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Aug 31, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you making this up?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, that's from his chat

I only put it here since it relates to starter news.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok so since

Double stack said this we all know,
Wade Smith is ICE,
Brown will be the starting K,
Bentley remains a STer
Earl Mitchell got eaten by frank Okam

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Aug 31, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait....

Would that help Okam’s intensity or swagger rating? Because if it does he might have a roster spot after all.

Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Aug 31, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been working with the 1s and 2s

He’s easily on the 53.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 31, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course he is

Who is he competing with, Deljuan?

by JimboTexan on Aug 31, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mop does not approve this message

he said that he will show everyone he is a better DT than Okam after outperforming Doont-uh last year at CB!

"Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries! Now Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Sep 1, 2010 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

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