What I'd Like To See: Trent's Trip To The Learning Tree
This week, the Houston Texans will face a sort of Bizarro version of themselves in Mike Shanahan's Washington Redskins. First of all, let's throw out that talk about let-down game. The Texans and Redskins both won big home openers against divisional rivals, so I expect both teams are at the same emotional state. Both teams also run some similar schemes, at least offensively, due to the Gary Kubiak-Mike Shanahan relationship. Again, it's another wash. The defenses aren't going to be surprised, so their execution will go a long way in determining the outcome on Sunday.
Last week, I talked about attacking a scheme with a specific offensive gameplan, but this week I'm talking about attacking a player. The key match-up should be Super Mario Williams versus Trent "Silverback" Williams in a Denver-East/South Heavyweight match-up for title of "Best Williams on the Field." What do I want to see? I want to see Mario use his experience and tools of the trade to take the Silverback to the learning tree.
Pull a jumpman and land on the other side of this post to get the details on why this match-up matters and how it could go on Sunday.
As I said before, the Texans and Redskins run similar schemes, as Gary Kubiak is a disciple of Mike Shanahan. Nothing these two teams throw at each other should confuse the other. I believe this game comes down to desire and talent. No one personifies those two words more than Texans DE Mario Williams.
This past Sunday, the man whose desire has often
This week, Mario takes on Redskins rookie LT Trent Williams. This past Sunday night, Silverback Williams took on Cowboys LB, and premiere NFL pass rusher, DeMarcus Ware. Watching the game, Ware managed a sack and two hits on the quarterback but could not manage consistent pressure. The Silverback seems to be up to the challenge of protecting the blind side, but Sunday is his first crack at a dominant NFL defensive end.
Watching Williams, he's the perfect left tackle for Mike Shanahan's scheme. He's athletic enough to block downfield, moves his feet well, can really keep up with an outside speed rush, and will only get better, but, as is to be expected, Trent showed moments of vulnerability in his first professional start.
Yes, he's a rookie, so there will be an occasional false start, and Trent also had a moment or two where he got beat by some of Ware's best speed. Silverback also had a little bit of trouble defending the spin move, as Ware was able to go outside-in on him on a few of his successful plays. The big problem I saw with Trent, at least in that one game, is that he has to learn how to use his hands better because it appeared that Ware could knock away his hands with ease. Luckily for Trent, Ware's a speed rusher, but if a lineman can get his hands on an opposing player, then he has control and should be able to do as he pleases. I felt that if Ware had utilized more bull rushes and rip moves that he'd have gotten more consistent pressure, as opposed to trying to run around the athletic Trent Williams.
The rookie is beatable, and Mario is going to have to beat him if the defense is to have a successful day. The secondary is still a bit of an unknown - yes, unknown since Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning, and he'll shred anyone - so they'll depend on pressure to make their jobs easier. The simplest way to have defensive success is to harass the quarterback consistently. While there will be stunts, I hope Mario keeps the attack simple. Watching the Dallas game, Mario's best weapons appear to be using his power with a rip or bull-rush, as opposed to trying to circle Trent.
I think Trent Williams will be an outstanding left tackle, but Sunday's a big learning moment for him. While Mario will have to be mindful of his gap assignment against a zone-blocking run attack, I would like to see an active Super Mario eat a mushroom and notch, at least, a combined seven pressures, hits, and sacks on Redskins QB Donovan McNabb. If Mario can hit that target number, then I really like the defense's chances of stopping McNabb and the Redskin offense.
That's what I'll be watching and hoping to see on Sunday, but what about you faithful BRBers? Where do you see the Texans gaining the upper-hand on Washington? Chime in below with what you think will win the game.
Post-script: I realize that describing line play, something that is hard to see with the camera focus on the ball, is hard to grasp with words, so here are some videos that talk about and show the moves and techniques mentioned in this post. I know everyone is on a different level as far as knowledge of football jargon and technique, but hopefully these help with the understanding of the jargon-heavy information.
The Spin Move
The Rip Move
The Bull Rush
ESPN Feature on Pass-Rushing
And a Mario video I like
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ahhhhhh i see what you meant when u said to come back today.
Good writeup i think mario will have a good time with the rook. Unlike the colts the skins will try and run so is trent willams a good run blocker? I heard he was you know since he came from okla, but i wonder how he looked in preseason and the first game.
The Skins didn't have too much success running against Dallas
but, like our lineman, Trent is pretty good when he’s on the move (he made some nice downfield blocks). I can’t recall him dominating man-on-man really…which would be another tell that power is the way to go against him.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Didn't Mario
Get 3.5 sacks last time we played Mike Shanahan? Trent Williams is better than whoever played tackle for them then (I think it was the year before they drafted Clady), but I can’t imagine that he’ll pose a significant problem.
Yes sir
To be fair to whatever scrub that was…you’ll see that one sack came against a RB and another came versus a TE.
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nice write-up.
i’m interested to see how the entire D-Line does against their O-Line. seems on paper we have the advantage… i just want us to get consistent pressure on the QB. if we can generate that, i’ll be happy because it takes a little of the burden off of the secondary.
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Doesn't Mario normally line up on the left side of the defense?
I think he does. Yes, I know sometimes they switch it up, but the match-up with Trent Williams will be predominantly Antonio Smith or perhaps one of our new guys on third down and long when Antonio moves inside. I could be wrong. Would appreciate being corrected if so.
I dub the Colts....Unforgiven!
He's on the right side versus the LT
He does move to the left side some, but he still spends most of his time attacking from the blind side.
"Lord, beer me strength."
That's different from every discussion I have ever been part of
The discussion has been that Mario doesn’t come from the normal right-handed QBs blindside. He comes from the QBs right-side. But if you say it is so, then I will go with it.
I dub the Colts....Unforgiven!
Well the plan this year
was on obvious passing-situations….to put him against the RT with Barwin taking on the LT. That may change with the Barwin injury, so who knows?
Think back to Sunday’s game though…he did line up against the LT and he did most of his damage from behind…which is partly why I thought he had one of his career best games.
"Lord, beer me strength."
It's because when they bring Barwin in They usually knock smith Down inside and Mario switches sides
Mario could potentially line up all over the place, but he’ll take most of the snaps from the right side against a LT.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I was thinking the same thing.
When i imagine it in my head, if the offense is moving left to right on the screen I picture Mario on the “bottom” of the screen, going against the RT. Hasnt that been the “norm”?
by theSpaceCityKid on Sep 15, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally
I think Mario should line up at LDE more often. He may be better at rushing the passer from that side of the field than he is at RDE.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 15, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
That's probably the plan with Barwin...
but the injury sets that back unless one of the new guys can prove he’s a credible pass-rusher.
"Lord, beer me strength."
^This
Been saying it for years.
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But he's an RDE!
RDE’s don’t rush passers from the left side of the field!
"Fuck you motherfucker!"
-Bernard Pollard-
He is a pwner
and pwners pwn bitches from whatever position they feel like pwning them from.
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by nolander on Sep 15, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
So he's kinda like favre
because favre can favre you in the favre without your favremission.
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by Jordann on Sep 15, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Voodoo
Preparing some of my voodoo charms/curses for Trent…if you see him slapping himself trying to put out an invisible fire…THAT’S ME!
by Peckerwood on Sep 15, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for Invisible fire
It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!
I'm on fire, I'm on fire!!!
Oh my god help me I dont wanna die! Help me jesus, help me allah, ahhhhh, help me tom cruise. Use your witchcraft to get the fire off me. Ahhhhh help me Oprah wintafree
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Sep 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Trent W. looked good game 1
but he’s a rookie tackle going against arguably the most physically gifted DE in the business. And our line as a whole is showing the type of athleticism to get upfield and disrupt in a hurry.I think T. Williams will get worked early and often.
Hell, i’ll call a Wale Ogunleye sack if they line him up on 10 snaps.
by leacheatsbabies on Sep 15, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions
Reading through Extremeskins....
The Kool-Aid is flowing….that’s for sure.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Confidence is ooozing on that site.
Gonna be a rude awakening. They are so unfamiliar with the Texans it’s unreal.
The Super Bowl is in Dallas, and an AFC team HAS to go. Why not the Texans?
by Christopher Allen on Sep 15, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
That's standard for Redskins fans
I lived in the DC area for four years and I’ve never seen a more schizophrenic fan base. Either the team is going to win the Super Bowl or they’re the worst team ever. There’s no in between with them.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 15, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Been checking Hogs Haven
for some insight on this weeks matchup, and they’re still gabbing about the Cowgirlz win. 20 pts total— how much was there to talk about?
The Super Bowl is in Dallas, and an AFC team HAS to go. Why not the Texans?
by Christopher Allen on Sep 15, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
great article on arian foster
just in case nobody seen this.. just read a great article on arian foster “where this guy came from” hopefully he’ll become one of the great ones… http://thenflblogz.blogspot.com/2010/09/where-did-arian-foster-come-from.html
dude is teh awesome.
he’s the phil jackson of football.
a zen master!
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Houston @ Washington Game Simulation
!!Texans Win Again!! <——————-LINK
I simulated....
Tim Jamison got a sack…..noooooooooooooooooooo, we cut the wrong guy!
"Lord, beer me strength."
Ha...
I simulated the game a few times myself and it appears that Goodell is going to lift the suspension on Cushing just in time for Sunday’s game :/ He was the team’s tackle leader on a few separate occasions. It’s not a perfect tool for simulation but they predicted a 4pt win over the Colts last weekend and a 4pt win over the Redskins on Sunday. Out of 10,001 simulations, we beat the Redskins over 70% of the time. I’ll take it.
by ChadillacSHSU on Sep 15, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I know this is Mario's thread, but thought I would put this here, because it's current...LOL!
Check out who is giving up on Mendenhall’s OT game-winning TD!

I dub the Colts....Unforgiven!
by Rip Jersey on Sep 15, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Yeah but
What do his shoes say?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 15, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
"I got paid, so don't expect me to show up!"
I dub the Colts....Unforgiven!
by Rip Jersey on Sep 15, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
ah. the rule of threes.
all goo’d!
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this game worries me
because baby Shan knows this team very well and will have a great gameplan against our defense. My hope is that their offense still isn’t really in sync and simply cannot execute. also I know the problems we have against 3-4 defenses. either we’ll kill them or it’ll be really close. I think it will all come down to qb play
It's hard bein whimpy
by WhimpyJimmy on Sep 15, 2010 12:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
and that’s all I have to say about that.
It's hard bein whimpy
by WhimpyJimmy on Sep 15, 2010 12:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Their o
Didn’t look like a shanahan O yet, the zone blocking was horrible when it happened, the guys couldn’t get the idea of flow and cutback lanes. McNabb looked like they hadn’t given the full play book to him yet, the one boot I saw was horrible. the play action was at best ok. They have alot of O to figure out before I am worried about them.
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by Texans-Brocos on Sep 15, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
don't be worried
Our D knows baby shan O better than redskins version of Baby Shan O knows our D (if that makes any sense). Our talent is superior everywhere. We can run or pass for big yardage. It’ll be like lining up in practice for our D, except a retarded version with not near the amount of skill players.
They didn’t score a TD against the cowgirls..i don’t expect their offense to make a quantum leap the next week playing our D.
by leacheatsbabies on Sep 15, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It seems our scheme has given us problems with "mobile" QBs at times.
I think that has been a result of decent pressure from the outside but no push in the middle, giving a QB with decent mobility and speed a chance to get 5 or 6 or maybe even more (See: David Garrard) off of a broken pass play or good coverage. TDC you seem to know our scheme pretty well, is that what you have noticed, as well? If so, I think our puch up the middle is the most important part of the game. We have proven we can get pressure off the ends, its up the middle that really disrupts. IMO.
by theSpaceCityKid on Sep 15, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
Manning may not be mobile in the same way that McNabb is
But he moves around the pocket better than anyone. If we managed to give him fits last Sunday, there is no reason why we can’t do the same. I don’t care which qb it is, if he’s on the move (especially to his left, which is why I would like to see Mario coming from his right — i.e. LDE) he’s not going to be as accurate with his passes.
I think we have enough speed at lb to contain the scrambling, too. Scrambling qbs tend to take more sacks, and if you’ll recall the Giants put McNabb on the turf 12 times in one game a couple of years ago.
I like our chances.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 15, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
McNabb
Was my fantasy backup quarterback for a number of years (traded him for Reggie Bush and Matt Schaub eventually) and as I recall his mobility has been significantly diminished in the last few years.
The mobile QBs resemble screens and draws, to me at least
The front four is all about getting up field, but the drawback is that they tend to overpursue sometimes. If they can’t tackle then they’ve pretty much run themselves out of the play.
You are right though, the interior DLine needs to show up again because if they get push then the QB tends to run into a defensive end.
"Lord, beer me strength."
That is what i am worried about is mobile QBs
we can get up the field but can we stop them. i wonder if we are going to use a spy.
What's our lb lineup likely to be?
I would imagine it would be Diles – DeMeco – Adibi. I suppose you could have Adibi cover Cooley and let DeMeco spy on McNabb. I’d rather he did that than try to blitz, since he is reallllly good going sideline-to-sideline but kinda meh rushing the passer.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 15, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we'll be back to square one with that
DeMeco will check to make sure the RB is in, then rush. That’s a Bush staple. If THAT gets thrown away, I will be even more surprised than I was about the 2-3 down linemen last week.
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by riversmccown on Sep 15, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah dude
Matt leinart looks grrrrrrreat!!!!
by AllenOU on Sep 15, 2010 12:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Getting news out of gameweek practices (aside from quotesheets)
is like pulling a tooth out with toothpicks. Teams try to be hush-hush.
"Lord, beer me strength."
YEA i know
just wondering if anybody heard anything, cause i don’t get much news up here in SA about the texans.
If both my Texas teams lose to the Deadskins...
I will be highly distrought. that said, Burn’em down.
God Bless Texas
Not that I know of
Maybe he’s counting the one in southern Oklahoma.
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by riversmccown on Sep 15, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It is a border dispute for
dwarfknight… he doesn’t want the border to be south of Dallas, but for everyone in the state it is… lol
I am tattooing a picture of Jacobi Jones to my Mannschaft, Because it loves to go deep and always does a dance in the end...zone!
Go Texans!
Maybe he's going this map

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Only thing is if he was going by this map, wouldn't we have three NFL teams in Texas?
I’m pretty sure Denver would have been inside our borders
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
no Denver Is more to the Center of Colorado
but Nice try. A for Effort
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 15, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe this one is clearer

By this one, I think Denver was once part of Texas, since Texas stretched as far north as Cheyenne, WY & Denver is directly south of there
I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.
by The Night Owl on Sep 16, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Denver's more northeast Colorado
and the map shows it cutting through more of the Western Slope
"Lord, beer me strength."
To the headwaters of the Rio Grande, to be precise.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 16, 2010 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions
ah, the great nation of Texas
Good times, good times…
God Bless Texas
by dwarfknight64 on Sep 17, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Southern Oklahoma?
You mean, Occupied North Texas, don’t you?
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What I'd Like To See: Our offensive line against their 3-4 defense.
Im honestly scared of this. We all know how well we perform against a 3-4 defense with a monstrous NT. And Kyle Shanahan knows this. He’s been on the other end of this before(jets game last season). So he can definitely let Jim Haslett know how to attack our offense using the 3-4.
Maybe that’s just me.
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-Bernard Pollard-
i get ur point
but the last season arian did great against miami and NE. Both run 3-4 def, and the monster NT WAS has play like 15 plays on sunday. Papa Shanny obviously still has a grudge
by ketchuppants7 on Sep 15, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I am and am not worried
I really have a feeling Dennisson has taken all the things into account that you just said. I’m not super worried.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I have seen the changes with Dennisson.
I hope you’re right.
"Fuck you motherfucker!"
-Bernard Pollard-
Haslett = Blitzes
That’s going to be interesting to see if the line can pick up blitzes.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Speaking of blitzes
we didn’t get a lot of those during the colts game right?
The only thing that the Colts LB did in this game was get blown up by Leach.
"Fuck you motherfucker!"
-Bernard Pollard-
Colts don't blitz a lot.
But maybe they gameplan for Foster and get hit by the air raid.
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Haynesworth SUCKS
The main thing with him is that he wants to shoot the gaps around the Center. If your Center is Decent he will be able to use that to his advantage and blow HAynesworth out os the play
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 15, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
"If your Center is Decent..."
Crap.
"MDC: Droppin' knowledge like a librarian with Parkinson's." --Jonathan Loesche
I noticed that Dennisson was up in the booth as opposed to on the field like Baby Shan was..
I really think it is better this way because Kubes is an offensive mind on the sideline and it helps to get an aerial view of whats going on and have those two perspectives work together. Thoughts?
by theSpaceCityKid on Sep 15, 2010 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
yes
I really agree with this thought, on defense, too. They have enough coaches on the sidelines if they need one there. They can all be talking on the headsets if they need to get messages to each other. The best view of what is going on is upstairs.
I dub the Colts....Unforgiven!
The key thing with McNabb is Containment Pressure
You HAve To Pressure HIm, However you cannot Give him a lane to run cuz he still has some wheels left. They may be bald but he can still motor down the field.
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 15, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
He can also be sacked eleventy kajillion times.
I forget which game, but it was just brutal to watch.
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12
Against the Giants a couple of years back.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 16, 2010 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Strahan vs Runyan?
Was always fun to watch
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Sep 16, 2010 3:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Putting a finishing note on this
Mario took Trent to the Learning Tree.
3 sacks. 3 hits. 3 pressures. OWNED.
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