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Matt Leinart Is A Houston Texan; I Am Confused

As Rivers' FanShot proclaims, Matt Leinart is now a member of your Houston Texans. I don't understand this move. Dan Orlovsky has not inspired any confidence that he can step in for Matt Schaub if Schaub goes down, but Leinart doesn't make me feel any better about the QB depth. Indeed, as many have noted, if Schaub goes down, the season is lost.  Orlovsky, Leinart, Bradlee Van Pelt, Alex Brink, Marty Cherry...if any of those guys have to play meaningful snaps, WE ARE SCREWED.  SCREWED, I TELLS YA!

Another thought for you on this, Matt Leinart Day...would have been a completely insane notion in 2006, but it's not a totally unfair question now: Is Matt Leinart a superior NFL QB than John David Booty?  Given the evidence, you can't just laugh off that query, can you?  Seriously, how does the addition of Leinart make the Houston Texans better? Or is this simply another case of Gary Kubiak, QB Guru, thinking he can fix another QB?

Star-divide

Because that logic was proven inherently sound by Kubes' work with David Carr, right? And Dan Orlovsky, for that matter?

As it stands now, it would appear that Schaub is QB1, Orlovsky remains QB2, and Leinart is your emergency QB/QB3. Convince me that bringing Matt Leinart on board the Good Ship Houston Texan makes sense, please. I want to believe.

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That's a lot of questions you're asking...where's the poll?

I’m waiting to hear what Kubes has to say on all this. I do have opinions, though and initially I think Leinart is a better QB2 than DanO.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Based on what?

I mean, if he’d been here learning the system to this point, maybe – but as of right now? Or even a month from now? I see nothing that makes me think Leinart is better.

Of course, he has more natural talent and Kubiak is the “QB Guru” so who knows? Maybe he can get to where he’s approaching average.

by HoustonDiehards on Sep 6, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

Based on Kubiak being the QB guru and Leinart having more talent, given time, Leinart could be an average QB. DanO is not and I don’t know he ever will be.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

See...

I’m just not even sure about the natural talent aspect. I certainly don’t believe Leinart has the brain to be an NFL QB, much less the work ethic.

Kubiak expects a lot from his QBs. Not much was asked from Leinart in his time in AZ, and he wasn’t even up to that.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

This could be Kubiak's legacy we're talking about

…turning this guy into a legitimate NFL QB.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

No offense, BUT

Who cares? We have Schaub. Schaub will be the one to lead us, not Leinart.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not if he signed a one year deal

IMO

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

stupid stupid stupid.

so now we got EXTRA distractions… and nonsense chatter and clutter before the season starts. i just don’t get this move for the life of me! not when we could’ve used that spot to keep someone else.

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by chrisd21 on Sep 6, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is a #3 QB really capable of causing a distraction?

He’s not OUR failed first rounder and party boy, he’s a guy we signed for peanuts to see if there’s anything to him. What are worried about?

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

In Tim's eyes, I guess so....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well....

You got to look at it like this….this is a backup role. He is not being brought in to run this offense and will learn from the sidelines and practices. I still pray that Schaub is healthy all year. It is a smart move to bring him in even if it doesn’t work out. They have a situation at backup QB and bringing in someone who has some experience might work, might not but its worth a try. At least you can see they know they got an issue there.

by Darby W on Sep 6, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right, of course

But he had the same thing in AZ and couldn’t handle it.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

You need to stop reliving the 2006 UT-USC game....

It is clouding your reasoning on this. You are for it and you are against it. What is it gonna be? It seems it is more personal to you. I think it’s a great move. I have no idea how it will work out, but this is the best thing that could have happened, IMO, regarding the Texans QB2 situation.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh no

I was never for signing Leinart. Ever. He’s horrible.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

OH NO!!!

WOW This is aweful! happy the guy found something but WHY US?? I was so glad he was cut from my Cardinals but Now with my TEXANS? We soo dont need this circus distraction as we go into whats gonna be our best season ever! I’m Very disappointed. If Kubes can turn him around then I will be willing to accept it and be happy again but till then Im just going to be nervous!

by LisaK on Sep 6, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont worry too much

he wouldnt even have a prayer at playing unless schaub got hurt bad. then IF that happened then i will promptly kill myself. if Schaub gets hurt for a small period of time, DanO would because he has experience with the playbook etc. etc. however unless he SOMEHOW does very well in practice and DanO continues to suck worse and worse as the season goes on then MAYBE towards the end of the season IF schaub gets hurt for a small period of time then we MIGHT have to see Leinart play. and as an insurance policy, if he sucks as much as we think he does than he’ll get pulled and DanO might suck a bit less!

Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.

by BattleRedHusker on Sep 7, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right...

They should have just kept Booty. He did ok in the preseason game he played in…

by Booty #1 collector on Sep 8, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did we release Dan O?

Cuz I’m thinking this is a similar signing to Rexy, who was signed as a QB3, but won the QB2 job.

If he is handed QB2, I don’t like the signing. If we keep DanO, I’m ok with the signing. How can it be bad?

"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK

by texanphil on Sep 6, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for asking the question...

However, I think that what’ll happen is that if Whinart suddenly develops game preparation skills (leopards/spots?) and gets a handle on the offense, then when Cushing comes back looking for a roster spot, “Wrong Way” Orlovsky will be shown the door.

by DilloTex on Sep 6, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

LEINERT IS THE REAL DEAL

Don’t make the mistake of thinking Leinert can’t play. He won the starting job over before injuring his shoulder. People have such a short memory. Warner went on to have two great years. Leinert always had high completion numbers. Very accurate. He was let go from Arizona for two reasons (1) Personality conflict with coach Whiz (2) His remaining contract dollars were too large. Coach Whix hardly gave Matt playing time this pre-season. The Texans just made the biggest steal of the season. Leinert is BETTER than half of the starters in this league.

by mentalmagic on Sep 6, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

His career 56% completion rate and 14-20 TD to INT ratio just screams efficiency.

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha! That's what I was thinking

But, confidence in DanO isn’t there. Let’s just see how this goes. Meanwhile, Schaub continues playing and both of the others stay on the sidelines…..

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those are rookie numbers - he hardly got a chance after that.

Honestly, I just don’t get the panic and dismay here. We didn’t trade Johnson to get him or something, we just wrote a smallish (by NFL standards) check.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

You talk a lot of sense, Rockets fan.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 7, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think there is *some* comparison to be made there

But I’m more concerned about the need to carry an extra QB until Leinhart comes up to speed. Then I imagine we’ll cut Orlovsky.

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by distant_texans_fan on Sep 6, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there's crossover, yes

No, not a perfect analogy. Another might be Chris Simms.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

except for the

elite college program part, yes.

Are there any of those in the Big 12?

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by texanphil on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

In basketball, maybe.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

but next year the Big XII becomes the “Texas Longhorns & Co. Division” While we go into the future and leave the Big XII behind. so …. in summary to answer your question… yes. just 2.

Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.

by BattleRedHusker on Sep 7, 2010 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

What does the 'N' stand for?

Nolij.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not gonna' do it, not gonna, not gonna do it this year or next

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 7, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for Chris Simms

exploding organs and all

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd...

…for the entertaining twisted sickness of it. Still laughing.
“Spleen? What’s that? Do you NEED one of those? Get back out there and throw the ball you sissy!!!”

by DilloTex on Sep 7, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

hell

he DID go back out there and throw the ball. What a mighty good man.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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Go Texans!

by Taco Joe on Sep 7, 2010 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, gooing this!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

It ruined that man so bad he ended up at Rice.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 7, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't know he wound up at Rice...

… excellent. A friend of mine’s son is a freshman on the Rice football team.

by DilloTex on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Major Applewhite found his way back to Texas

I could be wrong but I thought he’s back at UT working with Mack Brown somewhere .. so yes he went to Rice then went to UT.

by BattleRedFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

He was the OC at Rice for 1 year, and then came back to Texas as the RB Coach.

But there is a lot of speculation in the fanbase about if he is doing more than just coaching RBs.

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by Shake on Sep 7, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah I remember now

I had thought it was strange that he took a “demotion” to work with Mack Brown.

Or at least — on the face, going from Offensive Coordinator to Running Back coach sounds like a demotion on the surface. Working for Mack Brown and getting to see how he does it or just working for Mack Brown and UT and getting to live in Austin might be great trade-offs.

 =) to each his own. I’m happy that he’s back at UT. Major Applewhite is home.

by BattleRedFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Between Rice And Texas

Applewhite spent a year at ‘Bama as Saban’s OC, though the title was in name only.

Remember Joe Pendry? Former OL coach of the Texans who called the plays in ’05 after Chris Palmer was fired? Also known as the guy who thought Carr was so incapable of playing QB that the three-step drop became standard practice?

That guy was calling the plays at ’Bama instead of Major.

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by Tim on Sep 7, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Accuracy FTW!

Blocked out Forgot about the ’Bama trip for a year.

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by Shake on Sep 7, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa there.

Leinart’s junior year pretty much any team that needed a QB would have taken him #1. Somehow, after an almost identical year he went later, because USC lost the Rose Bowl. He was still #10 (I think).

Russell? Only the insane Raiders thought he was the best QB. Really. He was clearly a project and then went to the worst place in the NFL to be a project.

One more thing – Russell played some of the worst games at QB EVER. You can’t say that about Leinart – he wasn’t great, but there was nothing about his work that screamed “Biggest Bust EVAH!!!!”

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

good points.
we’ll have to wait and see.

by BattleRedFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Convince me that bringing Matt Leinart on board the Good Ship Houston Texan makes sense"

Can’t do it.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

You can't reason with a man that's been sniffing ammonia for the last four hours...

He’s high.

Whisenhunt had to make a painful decision and he was one preseason game away from making Leinart the starter. He’s been a starter before and lost his job to a future HOFer. He isn’t talentless. Mayber a change will do him good. Maybe under Kubiak’s tutelage he can regain his confidence and be a quality QB2. I think that’s why he is here. Of course, I haven’t seen what Kubiak has said about the situation, yet.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mean

He can’t be any worse than Sexy Rexy, can he?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Touche

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many backup QBs in this league

Are head-and-shoulders better than Leinart?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly. This is a good move!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

As long as people are clear about what this means

It means we’re getting a backup with some experience and maybe some potential – not a starter.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unless Schaub turns into a fumblception machine

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

no..

Carr is in San Fran now

Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.

by BattleRedHusker on Sep 7, 2010 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fot now, but he has competition on the bench now for that elusive and hard to hold on to QB2 spot

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not.

And can he be worse than Orlovsky looked this preseason? Because he was dreadful.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matty 0-2 in AZ

Matty has had two chances to start in AZ. I believe he’s going to be a very unhappy camper in the Texan locker room. I agree with the bigfat drunk!

MrMr

by mjmtx18 on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Locker room has been established

This is Schaub’s team. Not some sniveling brat from southern Cal.

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Sep 6, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Particularly a brat who's had his bubble burst in a serious way.

He’s not the QB of the future here, or the chosen one. He can’t just pop back to LA to mope around in a hot tub with 19 year olds. He’s going to have to be football player, or he’s going to have to leave.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

hard truth ftw!

Winning season... Check. Higher expectation bar... big Check.

by BattleRedHusker on Sep 7, 2010 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd....

but ya lost me. Weren’t you just defending this pickup, or is it late at night and I’m slightly muddled and not quite following things….which is probably more the case than anything else.

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Sep 7, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has ceratinly had more than 2 starts

He was 4-7 in his rookie year, then he was switched in and out for a while when Warner came. His career stats are not great, but I have no idea where 0-2 is coming from.

It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.

by einman77 on Sep 6, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, that makes sense

Good thing there’s no competition here.

It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.

by einman77 on Sep 6, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd...

‘cuz it’s perfect… Nicely played sir…

by DilloTex on Sep 6, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by distant_texans_fan on Sep 6, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where are you in NZ

I’m a Texan who lived over there for about 3 years.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

dude

I mean, yeah you said it

It's hard bein whimpy

by WhimpyJimmy on Sep 7, 2010 4:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

omg

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 7, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh

It’s a one-year deal, amirite? I’m not sure what’s got everyone so spun up. People talk about how we need a good backup (which apparently Leinart isn’t), but which team doesn’t? QB is probably the most demanding position in any sport anywhere, and there are probably no more than two dozen guys who can play it with any degree of ability. The days of Steve Young backing up Joe Montana are over.

Maybe Leinart is better than Orlovksy, maybe not. But we need to get over this attitude that somehow we should have a starting quality QB2 when the vast majority of QB2s are just as crappy as the one(s) that we have.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I Will Continue To Lament

That we did not bring Sage back to be QB2. Rosencopter aside, he would’ve been a much better option at QB2 than Orlovsky or Leinart.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Sep 6, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

What Tim said

And not just because he’s our blogging overlord.

Now, Tim, if you move to the left a bit, I can kiss your ass a little better.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the record

I would have welcomed Sage back with open arms (assuming he was clear that he would be a backup).

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pro-Sage

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

BWHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

timmaaaaaaaah!

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by chrisd21 on Sep 7, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well played, sir. Well played.

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by peytonsurdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Rec'd It

I’d have rec’d it twice if I could.

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by Tim on Sep 6, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tim, you are a monster.

and need to be stopped!

I, amongst many other of the core contributors at Battle Red Blog, are officially boycotting the site due to the deplorable "leadership" of head blogger Tim. We ask, but do not expect, support, from you, our fellow fans, regardless of your team affiliation. Were doing this because Tim tried to touch us all in inappropriate ways and didn't even offer to buy us dinner. Tim needs to be taught that NO means NO. To show your support you may email dhalprin123@gmail.com at SBNation and respectfully ask for the removal of Tim as head blogger of Battle Red Blog. Thank You. Also, we ask that BFD work on his hygiene.

by Salad on Sep 6, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He shook my hand and I was shocked when he rubbed my palm with his index finger....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want...

to be as great at that sig some day.

Alas, I have no doubt that it will never happen.

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by MDC on Sep 6, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I...I've got nothing

Well played, sir.

I’m laughing so hard I’m tearing up.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Because I am a huge nerd.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 7, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd....

because Monty Python references always receive one from me.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Sep 7, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thing is

Sage might have been the best backup qb in the league. You could certainly argue that. But he was pretty meh as a starter. That’s about as good as it gets, really – someone better than watsisname that backs up Manning, but not good enough to be starting quality.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Painter.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

But they would have had to give something up to get him

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tim is on record

That he would’ve given up a 6th for him.

I dunno if he would’ve done the 5th.

by riversmccown on Sep 6, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take Dan-O

other giving up either pick.

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by texanphil on Sep 6, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I continue to think that Sage is the best backup QB in the league.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He could be.

But I just don’t think we could have brought him back after sending him away and expect it to work.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think BTW that the Texans really tried to help Sage get a shot at a starting gig.

Favre wasn’t in the picture then, and Tavaris Jackson looked really really bad. I expected Sage would win the #1 job there.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

But here's the thing.

Leinart still could be a #1. Some rookie games, a few spot starts and we’re sure this guy’s a bust? Think about this – Vince Young is just now looking established as a starter, and people are still not convinced about that, even. Leinart is in a much different boat how, exactly?

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

He went to SC

ldo

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it #2 or #3?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any news on Schobel?

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by bone31crusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

NFP provides no source but still says this...
Now, Leinart will assume the backup spot and Orlovsky will be demoted to the third spot.

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by TexansDC on Sep 6, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I want to see what Kubiak says

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep

If he signed him for the future then Kubes fucked up. If he signed him so he’d have another option if Schaub went down short term and we needed to protect a lead late in a game, ok…..barely. There is no QB out there who is going to save us if Schaub goes down long term, that’s true for all serious SB contenders.

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by Farmer Fran on Sep 6, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

CONTINUITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if he comes out game 1 as the #2 i will personally run out there and slap the SHIT out of koob.

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by chrisd21 on Sep 6, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

future

how is he for the future, Leinart is 27, Schaub 29…and it’s just a one yr deal

by DanK TexaS on Sep 6, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

How????

He doesn’t know the playbook at all, hasn’t taken a snap with out guys. FFS.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

^This

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by distant_texans_fan on Sep 6, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I agree. He's not suddenly #2.

But by mid year? Probably, if needed, and Orlovsky continues to look the way he did in the preseason. Leinart could at least check down successfully.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

this screams

speculation based on WAG.

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by texanphil on Sep 6, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

highlights of leinart and rackers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzk6dCYBvHw

game against the titans, where unfortunatlye young looked decent, but you can see leinart being able to a) check down the ball, b) make some throws with time.

i mean, as much as i dont like leinart, hes WAY better than orlovsky. and in the emergency that we need him, we have enough playmakers to win with him. with dan, in that situation, id rather have someone who’s safe with teh ball than dan-o who throws into triple coverage ever 10 plays and gets picked.

KP

by stanfordkp on Sep 6, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

If schaub goes down in the third quarter of say the ravens game, I feel better, slightly, with leinart than o face

by AllenOU on Sep 6, 2010 12:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Leinert better than you think

Accuracy. You give him time and Leinert will cut a defense to shreads. He won’t kill you with the big bomb, but he is deadly in the medium to short game. Extremely accurate.

by mentalmagic on Sep 6, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

....

Let me give you another ………

5 6 % c a r e e r c o m p l e t i o n s

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like it.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He

just needs a more comfortable cushion on his nut swing. Last year we got the Sexy Rexy Fanbois, this year we get Failart’s. I wonder how bad it will be next season.

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

BANNED

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fank CAliendo????

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by Taco Joe on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha!

ok thank you. As you can see, my passion for sports figures stops abruptly at the Texans doorstep. They’re my favorite team to watch and I quit caring about Houston basketball after the twin towers broke up
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be great.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that would be flagging.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will kill you.

Or, at the very least, post a mocking comment on Facebook that your fiancee “likes.”

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by MDC on Sep 6, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Look, we only need one more flag to turn this one pink! Step to it.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

The anti-goo

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by TexansDC on Sep 6, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seven flags so far!

This might be an all new record!

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should have been at SB after Week 16 last year.

More flags than the UN up in that place.

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by peytonsurdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

DOUBLE BANNED!!!!

And you get to come clean the puke off my computer monitor. Forget “a little”, I just looked like what’s her name from the exorcist.

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by txknight on Sep 7, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why I am unabashedly man-crushing on Leinart

I think ultimately, Leinart’s true benefit here will be in a change in system/scenery, with a HC who is wholeheartedly a QB lover, vs Wisenhunt’s wish for a power running game ALA vintage Steelers. If he comes in, grows as a QB and maybe even a teammate, and is able to showcase that for a QB needy team, he could catch on somewhere else. Maybe he even enjoys his time here and ends up signing more long-term, who knows?

At the end of the day, Kubes was stuck justifying Orlovsky at every single press conference from OTA’s on, which tells you a lot more about your QB than a preseason game against 2’s, 3’s, and 4’s. Like I’ve said before, the benefit I see with Leinart is that he isn’t afraid to take crossing routes and checkdowns, which has been highlighted as a strength of Schaub.

Do I love this signing? Yes I do, because as a secondary Cardinals fan I truly don’t think Leinart was ever given a chance. He was put into a situation where he was expected to be the savior of the team without the O-line to do so. When he was hurt, he was supplanted by Kurt Warner Reborn, who ended up taking the Cardinals far beyond their level of talent. When Warner retires and the team regresses to the mean of their talent, Leinart gets blamed for the problem. Mind you, this is the same team who has Derek Anderson, he of the 44% completion rate, as their starting QB until they can get the undersized undrafted Max Hall to come up to snuff as their future QB.

Does he immediately supplant Orlovsky? He better not, he doesn’t know the playbook. Should he supplant Orlovsky? Yes, he should, because his decision making in my opinion is better. Without having to feed two #1 WR egos, a good RT, and (hopefully) a run game to set up play action and give him time in the pocket, I think Leinart could salvage a decent season for us. I don’t think Dan-O could, at least not based on his body of work this preseason.

by Calvin Paquette on Sep 6, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

as a secondary steelers fan and a big fan of Whiz

if he cut him, the guy is not a winner. Leinart thinks he’s Joe Willie Namath, which if he had an arm and a set of testicles he might be.

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by Farmer Fran on Sep 6, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

Maybe they don’t get along. Lots of guys have had issues gelling with their coaches. Leinart succeeded under a player’s coach, Pete Carroll. I would definitely argue that Kubiak is much more a player’s coach than Whiz is.

by Calvin Paquette on Sep 6, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

the only reason Whiz

wants a power running offense is because Leinart is so terrible. What did he do with a competent QB like Warner? Thats right he aired it out with all the weapons he has. Leinart doesn’t have much natural talent imo, and he is a character cancer I wouldn’t want in the locker room.

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

Most QBs would suffer in comparison to Warner. And I’m curious as to why people think Leinart is a locker room cancer.

I, personally, don’t have any problem with the fact that he hung out in a hot tub with a bunch of chicks. I mean, wouldn’t you if you could?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Locker room cancer

Because he was not respected by his teammates in AZ. They preferred Derek “worst QB in the league” Anderson to him. They prefer an undrafted rookie to him. It’s not all about Whis and Leinart’s relationship. It’s about his relationship with the entire team. You won’t be stuck with him long anyway. He thinks being a back up is beneath him, so expect him to go elsewhere next year.

by hadrarius on Sep 6, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

So he lost that popularity contest, what is the point?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bull

Leinert is very accurate and your comments are without basis. Texans just got a gift.

by mentalmagic on Sep 6, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whiz wanted a power running offense WITH Warner

He drafted Beanie Wells knowing full well Warner was going to be back at least one season, if not two. He aired the ball out because he had two #1 WR’s in Fitz and Boldin, and a borderline with Breaston. They have absolutely NO TE talent on the team and never have used the TE effectively. The Texans offense will be a considerably better fit for the way Leinart throws the ball.

by Calvin Paquette on Sep 6, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are right on

You nailed it. It was not about ability. It was a personality conflict. Matt can play!

by mentalmagic on Sep 6, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leinart has an arm.

We’re betting on a change of scenery working out and that the guy IS BETTER THAN DAN ORLOVSKY.

That’s it.
That’s all.
How hard can that be?

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

"I don't understand..."

Someone needed some splainin’

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Convincing Tim That This Makes Sense"

1) Leinart has more natural talent than Orlovsky.
2) In the worst case scenario, where Leinart shows up at 350 and starts filming BangBros scenes, this move means nothing. There is nothing invested.
3) When the Texans do snag post-cuts leftovers, they’ve been able to find some decent play (Pollard, obviously, but also Wilson and Demps for a season a piece, I’m sure there are other non-safety ones that I’m forgetting)
4) Kubiak thinks he can mold him. Then again, he thought that with Orlovsky. But it did work with a guy named Matt Schaub, who also spent some time on the bench early in his career, yano.
5) Once again, there is zero investment.

I can understand why people are a little nonplussed about the signing given that he doesn’t fill a need, his recent play has been bad, and he hasn’t shown much effort. Also the USC thing, which seems to hit a lot of people.

But honestly, this is like getting a free sausage sample (pun intended) from a company that recently had food recalled at a grocery store. It might be crappy, it might be alright. Either way, it was free. Carry on with your day.

by riversmccown on Sep 6, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I was convinced until you tried to feed me tainted sausage...

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just cook it.

You’ll be fine.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

old chinese proverb

he who eats free sausage ends up playing hide the salami.

I can't listen to that much Wagner. I start getting the urge to conquer Poland.

by Farmer Fran on Sep 6, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might be the best idea yet

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

This lady will not riot for their Pretty boy looks!

When your unsucessful on the field it does anything but satisfy this woman! haha looks mean nothing when thats all there is. But for his sake I hope that the change in team can inspire him enough to turn his game around. I really dont wish him badly just wish he didnt come to the Texans.

by LisaK on Sep 6, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The sex cannon ain't no pretty boy.

Have you seen how far he can throw it? Don’t act like you’re not impressed.

by Nashmeister on Sep 6, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

After Leinart fails

We will no longer be able to refer to Kubiak as a “QB guru”.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me Leinart……

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Lets also not forget

If god help us Matt got injured and Leinart had to play, our offense would have to be completely restructured for a left handed QB, wrecking whatever chemistry we had going at the time. The signing makes little sense to me. Damn them for not signing a true veteran in the off season like Bulger.

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Sexy Rexy + Hollywood + BULGEr

= cum all over our bench and 29 women impregnated the first game

Gimme some sack lunch

by SackLunch on Sep 6, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is the offense wrecked?

The WRs move around as it is…and you could do worse than making Eric Winston the blind-side protector.

There’s a lot of fuss for a back-up/third stringer…..come on people. In Schaub We Trust.

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by TexansDC on Sep 6, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya we could do worse

than taking a guy and completely changing his assignment and responsibilities mid season. We could also do alot better.

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really have to restructure an offense

for QB’s with different dominant hands?

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve Young seemed to transition well

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of non-points are being uttered here....

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young was a lefty

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

and?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I thought it was a non-issue.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh

We’d be fucked either way, unless we had Tom Brady as our back up.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 6, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

He may be able to throw

But I don’t want that dirty Euromullet trashing up our sidelines. Look at Schaub…we’re a clean cut team.

by Calvin Paquette on Sep 6, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF..

I went to bed looking forward to wake up and find out that Schobel had signed the paper for the spot Smithiak had kept aside for him. Not this.

Assmass alone does not a NT make.

by kaizer on Sep 6, 2010 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Leinart as new QB for Texans?

His complaint with Arizona was being unfairly treated in the starter competition, now he will have to fight Dan O. for the back up role a fight he could easily lose. The NFL salary cap forces teams to have one good QB and makes fans worry if that guy gets hurt, because of the inability to have a good no. 2. Volek in SD might be the best back up in the league.

by frontier 76 on Sep 6, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd take Rosenfels over Volek.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'd do fine with either.

Volek I think has been prone to fewer catastrophic mistakes.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dan O. and Matt L.

These are not the Droids you are looking for, Move along

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by Fox Mulder on Sep 6, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny you say that as I'm watching Star Wars.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

too bad big blue boob isn't wired like C3PO.

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by chrisd21 on Sep 6, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trust Smithiak

after all the TE jokes last year, we needed em all to make it through the season.

We got VALUE for TJ!

We passed on Reggie Bush and VY in the same year!

Dismissing all that as luck, ….If there’s one thing I’ll leave to Gary Kubiak’s judgment, its picking a QB3.

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by texanphil on Sep 6, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Does this make our '06 draft class supremely epic?

Now that we have Mario and Leinart? Make a deal for VY and Reggae Bush and all our ’06 dreams come true!

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by LoneSpot on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, we can be the undisputed winners of 2006's draft. I like it.

I also believe that somehow Greg Oden will wind up the backup center in OKC.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

here's what i don't understand.

Koob goes out publicly defending the guy not even a week ago. he fires booty. now he brings in leinart who hasn’t had one day (let along a whole preseason) to digest the play book?? i’m hoping this is just to light a fire under Orlosky. i just don’t see how or where he fits into our plans. If that’s the case… then why didn’t we take a chance on Vick last year?? at least he’s waaaaaaay more mobile.

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by chrisd21 on Sep 6, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I am definitely in the minority hear but I'm not against it

A lot of his issues in AZ were that he got it into his head (because everyone said it through his time there) that he was the heir to the starting QB job and he seemed to get a sense of entitlement. He’s coming in here knowing that he has no shot of starting and hopefully can suck it up and try to improve and make the most of his talent under Kubiak.

That being said if I’m wrong and he’s the same guy he was in AZ, what’s the harm? A couple hundred grand? A very low risk move here with decent upside if he can turn things around.

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by was385 on Sep 6, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

If Leinart winds up playing for you guys this year I hope he does well.

Ever since we drafted him in Arizona I wanted to see the guy succeed. He had a good rookie year, then he got injured in his 2nd season while he was trying to learn a new offense. Kubiak could get Leinart’s problems (which are more mental than physical right now) fixed up and he could play well.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Sep 6, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

LEINERT IS A STEAL FOR TEXANS

Coach Whiz did not get along with Leinert and his west coast laid back style. Has nothing to do with Matt’s ability to play. Hell, he won the starting job his rookie year for crying out loud. Had he not injured his shoulder, his career could have been a different story. This pre-season Matt was only given 2 series per game. How the hell can you win a starting job if your head coach is not giving you an opportunity to win it on the field? Leinert reminds me of that long haired, surfer dude QB from the movie Remember the Titans. Don’t judge a book by its cover. Matt Leinert can play and is one of the most accurate passers in this league. Houston just got the STEAL OF THE DECADE. Great Job Kubiak!

by mentalmagic on Sep 6, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's a thought...

We know we have a secure QB in Matt Schaub. We do know that Kubiak has some minor love for Dan Orlovsky by his comments (granted, take them with a grain of salt). We do know this same situation occurred when Rex Grossman was brought in after Chicago cut him.

Maybe the thought process is if one of the two backups, or even three, can develop into a Sage-like QB (Leinart, maybe?) then maybe they can dump the third and fourth OR maybe they can have significant trade bait for draft picks (that is the FO MO, is it not?).

Just throwing the thought out there.

by Fuzion on Sep 6, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait,.....

so us signing Leinart means we can’t sign Schobel? Fuck.

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by bone31crusher on Sep 6, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Pat White for any wildcat situation

Troy Smith on QB ability.

This is killing me…do you guys still have Brian Russell on your team?

Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.

by SSreporters on Sep 6, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually i’d probably take both of those guys over Leinart… but I’m still that they got a backup that wasn’t Booty or Orlovsky.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thankfully, Texans Don't Employ B-Russ Anymore

We might not be the smartest franchise around, but we eventually rectify mistakes.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Sep 6, 2010 3:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

My therapist wants me to thank you on her behalf

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

DanO sucks, why the fuss

everyone that’s bitching about having Matt Leinart as your new back up QB are dumb as shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dan-O sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! John David Booty is way better than DanO. I give Kubes credit for the Dward signing and this one. You give Kubes an accurate passer and he will make him a damn good QB.

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by Andre4000 on Sep 6, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Alex Brink

Is currently up here with my Blue Bombers. And if he get’s snaps for THAT team the season is also lost.

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by canadian texan on Sep 6, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe Kubiak is looking to get his players laid

After all, Leinart could be a great consultant in beer bonging, hot tubs, and jailbait. LOOSEN UP THE TEXANS

by cubic on Sep 6, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Leinart is a substantially better backup than Dan Orlovsky...

… so I guess a lot of the confusion in this topic confuses me.

by krkenney on Sep 6, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

People need something to freak out about

for some reason its our backup QB, even though they might actually be better then a significant chunk of starters in the NFL. There just aren’t enough good QBs to have a solid backup for many teams.

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by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, lot of freakin' out over nothing

It’s gonna be okay, everybody. Matt Schaub hasn’t gone anywhere. JDB? I thought he was better than DanO, but Kubes knows better. Fine. But, I am happy they went out and picked up Leinart. This is a good move.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think its freaking out

per say, I think its concern over a roster spot that could possibly be used more efficiently. I mean our Backup QB spot is shaky, but if there isnt a better option than Dan on the market, there are other areas like RB, OT, DE, etc. that could use the depth.

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, so pick a position and a player

I’ll entertain your ideas…

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Future Trade?

I look at this as an insurance policy for Schaub getting hurt and DanO running out of the back of the endzone yet again for the short-term.

Long-term, if Leinart plays in spot duty this season and proves he’s competent, the Texans may be able to trade him to a QB needy team. Hell, look what Seattle traded for Whitehurst this offseason, or what the Texans traded for Schaub a few years back. Backup QBs can bring in picks. That being said, Leinart will still have to perform.

by MaloneyPony on Sep 6, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Cowboys.

Not Titans.

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by LoneSpot on Sep 6, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trade in future...

is the only thing that makes any sense and still not very much.

GO TEXANS!!!!

Our time will come...

by Texanmaniac on Sep 6, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I WANTED SCHOBEL

so are we goin to get him or not

If at first you don't succeed, draft, draft again

by Antho10000 on Sep 6, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Schobel is the signing that I'm hoping for...

… but it looks less and less likely the further we get into this week.

by DilloTex on Sep 7, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who fucking cares?

Does this make us worse? It could potentially help us, but it certainly isn’t going to hurt us. I am not a big leinert fan but the guy has some talent, so lets see if Kubes can do anything with him. As tgc said above, and I’ve been saying all weekend, we need to get over the fact taht we don’t have Tom Brady as a backup. How many teams are satisfied with their backup QBs, let alone their starters? 3? 4? Not damn many.

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by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm more OK

In that it’s a one year deal. If it was multi-year, I’d be super pissed.

The issue I’ve got…well, are issues. I think we have a higher sense of urgency at CB, T, and DT to improve. From a realistic standpoint, especially since he’s so far behind the playbook curve, he’s simply not an upgrade from DanO.

I feel like we got distracted by the shiny new QB rather than addressing actual areas of need.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also

If Kubes, etc., are QB gods, now they get to split their time between two major projects. I’d rather focus on one or the other.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno

Haven’t kept up with all of them, TBH.

You’re right, if I’m reading your insinuation correctly, that there’s not much we could hope for that’s available, Leinart included. There is a reason these people are cut.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

spot on

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on

They spend 18 bajillion hours a day on this stuff. Just because they pursued Leinert doesn’t mean they simply forgot all those other positions exist and/or count. They are fully capable of pursuing depth at other positions IF its available and going after Leinart. Sure he isn’t an upgrade over dan-o right away, but do we play a few game season or a 16 game season?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knda said the same thing about Tom Brady

I think I said, we picked up Leinart because Tom Brady wasn’t available. Man, we are thinking so much alike it’s scary!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brady is a pussy

Pollard would kill him in practice.

I’d rather have Dan-O. Pollard feels sorry for him.

"I'm trying to get a feel for Booty" - GK

by texanphil on Sep 6, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like Leinart.

I think this was a good move.

An experienced, high draft pick QB with a Heisman and National Championship under his belt is a good plan for a back up QB.

Upgrade to Dan O or Booty.

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 6, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

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by bone31crusher on Sep 6, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

I forgot to add that Matt also endured the longest green room sitting on national TV on draft day.

That builds character !

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 6, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Brady Quin had that honour

When he almost dropped to the second round?

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by distant_texans_fan on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leinart wasn’t there as long, but the camera kept panning him cause he looked so bummed.

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 7, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He. Just. Loses.

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by texanphil on Sep 6, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I didnt realise

that things like winning a Heisman or your college team winning a title in a completely unbalanced unfair system was the measuring stick for good QBing. I guess we should just throw out the last 4 years or mediocrity, that bitch got a shiny trophy!

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awards are not completely meaningless

You don’t accidentally win the hiesman trophy, or accidentally get drafted in the first round. Lets not be asshats. Two years of sitting behind Warner who was one of the best QBs in the league, one year of playing decent for a rookie. So 1 year of mediocrity? I’m not in his fan club, but to act like he can’t possibly help us is retarded.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The guy won two national championships and played in a third

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

the list of Heisman busts is quite long, kinda like the list of bad players “accidentally” drafted in the first round. Unless of course you think players like Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russel, or Charles Rogers were all uber talented and just got a bum rap.

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by DaGoaT on Sep 6, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reggie Bush should be included on that list.

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by bone31crusher on Sep 6, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Reggie Bust?

You mean, the guy who can’t hold a job as a RB?

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

^^This

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by bone31crusher on Sep 6, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN says he's #1 on the depth chart right now...

at worst he’s the #2 back, I think his job is safe. where are you getting this can’t hold a job shit from?

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

at best he is a 3rd down back

that does not make him a starting rb.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

this looks like 1st down in the playoffs to me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b2hrZ4ejHs

He’s not an every down back obviously, but his job is not in jeopardy and he’s probably the best pass catching back in the league. Not to mention he’s a pretty damn good return man. These are not attributes you would apply to someone you are comparing to Ryan fucking Leaf.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s not an every down back obviously, but his job is not in jeopardy and he’s probably the best pass catching back in the league.

So you are saying he is a 3rd down back?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

For every one of those I bet I could find one of him shirking away from contact even when he could have gotten more yards. Plus, piss poor tackling. One play does not change his entire career.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duh it’s piss poor tackling, that’s kind of a side effect of trying to catch one of the most elusive men in the league. Find one video of him running away from contact when he could possibly get more yards. I’m betting you already looked and couldn’t find any.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

People don't tend to post those videos online

I have seen it happen a ton of times, and don’t need to go find one video and pretend that means I have won he argument.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

good

I’m glad you can face the fact that you’ve lost. Remember that you’re the one who said you this not me. “For every one of those I bet I could find one of him shirking away from contact even when he could have gotten more yards.”

No one is saying he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, hell I probably would not even put him in my top 10, but he’s not a bust. He’s not someone you mention in the same sentence as Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russel ffs.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

rofl

I meant that in the rhetorical “if i had unlimited time and access to all of his gametape” kind of way. Being a 3rd down back doesn’t make you a bust. He certainly didn’t live up to expectations, but I(ME) didn’t say he was a bust, just a 3rd down back. He isn’t a guy you want running between the tackles a lot, and his main role is as a pass catching back, or a guy on sweeps etc. Thats basically a 3rd down back, they are damn useful to have around.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you are still angry

we drafted Mario over Bush? If not why do you have such a hard on for the guy.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

I think the guy is a douche, really, but he’s a good player. I think it devalues the term bust when you mention guys like Reggie in the same sentence as Ryan Leaf.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can still be a 3rd down back

whether or not he is a bust.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

but how is he a 3rd down back when they use him in all situations?

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think you understand what a 3rd down back is

Getting an occasional carry on the inside does not invalidate your status as one. There is a reason Pierre Thomas got the bulk of carries. You really are pretty much the only person I have ever seen try to claim he isn’t a 3rd down back at this point of his career.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

A good contributor is not a bust, plain and simple. He hasn’t been to the Pro Bowl, but he has a Super Bowl ring which I think is a little more valuable. I’m pretty sure this is the first time i’ve heard people call a guy with a SB ring a bust.

I think Trent Dilfer sucks ass but I don’t see how you can call him a bust.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah yes

he single handedly led them to the super bowel not making him a bust. Good logic there. n

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

wat

you’re twisting my words a little, don’t you think?

by Toolshed1 on Sep 6, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only a little

There is some guy who was a backup QB for the Cowboys in the early 90s who has like 3 fucking rings. Does that say anything about how good a player he was, or how good the team around him was?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are we comparing a contributing member of a football team to someone who held Troy’s jockstrap?

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you are unable to grasp the logic

that being on a super bowl team does not automatically make you a superstar, or not a bust, or anything at all other then on the roster. He had 25 yards rushing and 38 receiving(3rd down back!), sure he contributed but that doesn’t validate him as a non bust.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never said he's not a bust simply because of the superbowl

But when you have a Super Bowl ring, a great skillset, and you have implemented that great skillset in the correct manner I have a hard time calling you a bust.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

pretty sure this is the first time i’ve heard people call a guy with a SB ring a bust.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

What part of that sentence says “hes not a bust simply because of a superbowl” to you? Do you have dyslexia?

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was implied by your statement

you obviously have a very tenuous grasp on both logic and the English language. As such talking to you is obviously a waste of my time. GOODNIGHT.

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by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

say tenuous one more time

I think that’ll finish me off. I implied nothing, you’re reading far too much into a simple statement.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I congratulate you on your choice of screen names ,sir...

It shows a keen self-awareness and personal insight. Kudos.

by DilloTex on Sep 7, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

No one's denying that he doesn't contribute in his limited touches

but a RB taken in the first round, let alone #2, needs to be “The Man.” He needs to be putting up top-5, 10 RB numbers.

So what he has a Super Bowl ring? He didn’t single-handedly win it and he’s not the first non-All Pro/Pro Bowler to win a ring. A Super Bowl title doesn’t justify his draft slot.

Reggie…you can call him a solid player, but he’s not worth #2 money….he’s not a top 10 RB….and he was overdrafted. Even Saint fans admit he’s not worth those megabucks.

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by TexansDC on Sep 7, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve never claimed that he does any of those things, I’m just saying he’s not someone who should be mentioned with Ryan Leaf. Of course the Saints reached. Of course he’s not a top 10 back. Of course he’s not worth what they are paying him.

But that doesn’t mean he’s Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russel…

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those are not the only 2 busts of all time

sorry

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those are 2 of the 3 that Reggie should supposedly be on a list with.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

The list was all heisman winners who are busts

those where some of the names that came up.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leaf lasted 2 years before he was waived. Russel lasted 2 years before he was released. Both played ABSOLUTELY HORRIDLY. Neither of them had any kind of success whatsoever. Both were picked above Reggie.

Reggie on the other hand has a secure job and has been productive. If you don’t understand why Reggie shouldn’t be on the same list as COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURES I don’t know what to tell you.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Reggie Bush – 28 TDs in 4 seasons (7 per year)
Purple Drankin’ Fatty – 19 TDs in 3 seasons (6 1/3 per year)

Is he JaMarcus bad? No. Is it unreasonable to lump him in? No.

Reggie was taken 2nd in the NFL Draft. He is not an every down back. He’s not the starting running back. He’s a situational scat back. He gets some carries, but is mainly a 3rd down back and returner.

He’s a bust in a sense that he hasn’t lived up to his draft slot or pay. There are 30 or so guys behind him who became Pro Bowlers/All-Pro players. 30 or so more players who you can say deserved to be taken ahead of him. However, he’s not a bust in the total sense because he’s a contributing player….but it’d look more appropriate if you swapped his selection with 2006 2nd rounder Maurice Jones-Drew.

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by TexansDC on Sep 7, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't agree on JaMarcus, he is TERRIBLE.

but I agree with everything else, in fact i’m pretty sure i’ve said most of that already. Basically all I was trying to say about the whole 3rd down back thing was he’s not JUST a 3rd down back.

I just don’t see how a productive player can be mentioned anywhere near guys who were drafted within a few picks and get cut 2 years later.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha...

but at least it’s settled. Not as bad as the out of a jobbers, but overdrafted…..although he is a productive member of a NFL team.

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by TexansDC on Sep 7, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Andre Ware approves this message!

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by Taco Joe on Sep 7, 2010 4:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats like saying

Matt Schuab is not a good qb because he isn’t Elway.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

How isn't it?

You are saying he can’t be a bust because Leaf and Russel where such big busts they blow him out of the water. You seem to have a tenuous hold on logic.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, sure.

Saying Reggie Bush shouldn’t be mentioned among Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russel is the same thing as saying Matt Schaub sucks because he isn’t Elway. Great logic.

by Toolshed1 on Sep 7, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want to believe you are a troll

I really do.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, what is this all about?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

In summary

“Reggie Boooosh is a 3rd down back and 2nd pick overall bust.”
“No he’s not! He has a ring now!”

Other than that, tldr

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by HoustonTransplant on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Problem with that is that the #2 pick in the draft is not supposed to be a good contributor

In that context, he is a bust. Tony Mandarich had a semi decent career, but since he was a #2 pick, he’s considered a bust for not living up to the hype. That’s where Bush is at, so far a decent career, but nowhere near living up to the hype as the next Barry Sanders

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by The Night Owl on Sep 7, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's true, Reggie Bush is

both the most expensive, and the best, 3rd down back in the NFL.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I told you to stop being an asshat

why don’t you listen? Like I said, it still points to him having talent of some sort, same as going in the 1st round. I didn’t say that makes him bust proof did I?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah!!!

And bring back Ron Dayne!!!!

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by distant_texans_fan on Sep 6, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha! good one dtf

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

When i saw DTF

all i thought was down to fuck!!!

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by Taco Joe on Sep 7, 2010 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a forgone conclusion the Kerns gets a chubby at the mention of Daryl Effin Morey

DoH, I did it again! …who needs viagra?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

The season starts up soon, doesn't it?

If Yao suits up for the opening game, I might get interested. I will have to check to see who the other players are….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, Kerns

I will go there and say something with the risk that worlds will collide….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree with that.

If Yao goes down we have Brad Miller. Scola can replace Yao as our low post threat, and we won’t be giving up that much size. Miller is no Yao in height size, but he isn’t Chuck Hayes. Brad will be able to get defensive boards and actually somewhat alter shots compared to what Chuck did. We are extremely deep, so Hill can be a back up center to Brad if necessary. If Yao goes down, my prediction is that we will go 48 and 34. It’s a bold prediction, but if we can win 42 games with a 6’6 center, we can win 6 more with a legit 7 footer.

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by bone31crusher on Sep 7, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey -

Maybe Texans should have drafted Bush or Young !

/ducks and runs ..

Resume the eternal debate!

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 7, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have liked to see Graham Harrell, but I watch too much Big 12 football. :)

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 6, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

What about the corpse formerly known as Anthony Weaver?

Man, that was a good running joke back in the day.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Someone needs to carry this mantra.

Just ask the Steelers or Redskins.

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by Shake on Sep 7, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brad Childress is defending his decision to keep Tavaris over Sage

with exactly the same argument Kubiak is using to defend his decision to keep DanO over JD………practice. I did not see one minute of camp so I cannot challenge Kubiak on who played better during practice, but clearly Dan O was substandard in game action. He is not ready to play in the NFL. He is too slow with his decisions, and the 2 INT’s vs TB were abominable. JD Booty on the other hand was not terrible, and at times looked halfway decent. Neither could be counted on to save the season if Schaub gets injured, and Orlovsky’s contract is ridiculous for a proven backup, much less one who has done virtually zip in his career. The best decision would have been to cut Dan O, keep Booty and then go waiver wire shopping.

Another factor in Minnesota was an impressive rookie camp by Joe Webb, but I still find it curious that 2 coaches both seem to value performance in practice over game action. At any position other than QB, I could maybe get on board with it, but the QB position is uniquely challenging and practice is what Alan Iverson called it.

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by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 6, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

No downside

One year deal in an uncapped year so there’s no financial ramification. Worst case scenario, Leinart sucks like DanO. Best case, Koob develops him and he stays as QB2 for long term, maybe even tradebait for draft pick.

by goomba on Sep 6, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Before I read this post

and read the comments that comes with it, Im going for a smoke.

I don’t think im ready for this just yet.

by Jordann on Sep 6, 2010 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

says the man who takes one in each orafice....

i would say you’re ready for anything. lol

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by chrisd21 on Sep 7, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not Sure if it was Already Said But...

if anybody can make this dude an NFL QB, it would be the KUBES

by Hangbok on Sep 6, 2010 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Hope Im notjinxing us but......

if schaub sucks this year and the season isn’t over and if somehow we are still in the playoff race, does kubes decide to put dan-o or leinart in? I hope this never never never ever ever happens but what do you guys think?

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Sep 6, 2010 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, you're on the edge of BANNED

Dunno. Like leacheatsbabies above says, I think we’re screwed regardless. And Rivers. And, hell, just about everybody on Twitter. Even the spammers.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

bob allen just said on the news....

leinart didn’t study the playbook much in arizona, didn’t have what it took to step up and be a leader. saying that the texans is his last best shot at resurrecting his carrer. said that Dan-O was not consistent enough to have all of Koob’s confidence, and that the Texans still needed a solid #2. risk/reward in texans favor due to just a one year signing….
in other words…
relax. lol

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by chrisd21 on Sep 6, 2010 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

B-b-but

THIS IS THE INTERNET!!!! THERE CAN BE NO RELAXING!!!!!!!! RAAAAAGGGGGEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

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by TexansDC on Sep 6, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

This kinda says to me that the big contract they gave DanO was foolish

Did I say that? Foolish? Is that allowed on BRB?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still feel they overpaid

but if they have the cap room and it didn’t stop us from signing someone else who cares? Its not my money.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was.

What a waste. How much did he get? Like six million for two years?

by Jordann on Sep 6, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

9 mil/ 3 years

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Sep 6, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leinart signed for the minimum???

WTF virginai tech. Cool new uni’s. Playin like little babies

by AllenOU on Sep 6, 2010 7:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rec'd

Thanks to OU a few years ago contributing to a few badass recruiting classes that now make up Boise State’s team.

/runs Statue of Liberty play

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by Shake on Sep 7, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I so wish that I had watched the game.

Especially when Dr. Z said that it was the greatest football game he’s seen.

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by Cassieper on Sep 7, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with the statement that it was the greatest football game ever seen

For the life of me, I can think of few games with that kind of drama……NYG/NE in the Super Bowl was close, but it didn’t have the David/Goliath, back and forth, nailbiting moments……fantastic game.

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by TexansDC on Sep 7, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or the ridiculous ending

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 7, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was the greatest one i've seen too.

It’s like BSU pulled out everything and used it’s whole arsenal to win that game.

And it was topped off with a marriage proposal!

CINDERELLA STORY FTW!

by Jordann on Sep 7, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Next to the Doug Flutie hail mary play.

I wasn’t able to watch it live but i’ve seen plenty of re-runs.

by Jordann on Sep 7, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know the terms of Leinart's contract

I haven’t seen it reported

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

HE gets ALL THE MONEY.

no one else gets paid now, because Leinart took it ALL.

The sky is falling!
We signed a sketchy #3 QB as a project!
The sky is falling!

(This thread is hurting my soul a bit…my apologies.)

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

You seem pretty invested in the whole thing

People need to relax. The guy is coming in here trying to resurrect his career. He isn’t here to topple the Texans’ locker room. I think there is a faction of posters that think if they express how adamantly they are against the signing of Leinart, they can influence the team to stop the nonsense and go back to where we were two days ago. Well, that isn’t happening. At some point the naysayers just need to accept the fact that this is happening. The amateur FO roll-playing is over. We all woke up today and Leinart is here in Houston and all the facts and fiction thrown around yesterday on the 4 or 5 threads about the same topic had no effect. How about ONE MORE Matt Leinart thread that says, “Welcome to Houston, Matt Leinart!” Have you thought of that, Tim? Seems we get one of those for other new Texans. Why not one for Matt Leinart?

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

No welcome thread.

The dude has ruined our season before it even started, took all the money and is also secretly planning on moving the team to Los Angeles. It’s all true!

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

hehehe! i think i rerad that in so many words right here on this page....

Shouldn’t be long. What’s your estimate on the move date? After he leads the team to a Super Bowl victory? Hmmmm, the LA Texans…I like it!

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 9:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

for the record

the word is “role playing” not “roll playing”

by BattleRedFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that the game we're playing now? Okay, it's go time...

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 7, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

TCU's new unis = me having seizures

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same

Watched that game the other night. They were trying to say it was some homage to an old coach and a cool ass quote. But the unis failed.

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by HoustonTransplant on Sep 6, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say complete failure

The frogskin helmets looked cool. I think it’s just the undershirts that screw up those uniforms

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but you appear to be unarmed.

by The Night Owl on Sep 7, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not new

The Nike Pro Combat unis are used for “big” games.

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by TexansDC on Sep 7, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miagine it was a confidence thing.

Look Dan, your still worth 3 mill a year, even as a back-up. You’re a good football player, you were just unlucky in Detroit. Don’t worry, its all over now. Welcome to Houston, you can relax…..

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by distant_texans_fan on Sep 6, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I loved the deal at the time. Loved it.

I thought DanO would be a perfect fit for our system.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Banned.

Wait. Can I do that? Citizen’s Ban?

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by LoneSpot on Sep 6, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of people did

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

revisionist history

EVERY report in AZ for 2 years has been Leinart was working hard and taking it all very seriously
including numerous quotes to that effect from Whisenhunt and Warner

wouldn’t surprise me to see Whisenhunt suddenly try to rewrite history, probably thru an assistant coach BUT if Warner was saying that, you can take it to the bank.

Warner’s first reaction to all this was puzzlement, saying he knew Leinart had done the work and didn’t seem to have been given much of a chance to show anything yet.
In Warner I trust, somewhat.

by scsa69 on Sep 6, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 7, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Troy Smith is now a teammate of David Carr

Signed by 49ers, today

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

They released Nate Davis....

kid can run and has a rocket arm. Now THAT is the kind of project I wish Kubes would undertake.

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by TexansDC on Sep 6, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even Carr commented that Davis lacked a work ethic

Davis also has dyslexia and is unable to learn the playbook. Not sure how Kubes could overcome that.

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goo'd

Even with your fancy schamcy words.

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by LoneSpot on Sep 6, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

he couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to fashion. That would raise Zoolander’s dander

by kozanack on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny

even if they are gross exaggerations….

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sexy Rexy's

is no exaggeration. At all.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought he did a good job reining it in when he was here in Houston

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

By sitting his ass on the bench?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That works

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd...

for honesty.

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by chrisd21 on Sep 6, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

you will be pleasantly surprised

Card fan here, I think Whisenhunt made a major mistake and you guys are the winners
some points to ponder

1. ‘Party boy’ stuff was all over 3 years ago, nothing since but reports about how hard he was working and how serious he was taking things

2. Whisenhunt, for some reason, hated this guys guts from day 1, your coach must like something about him, your coach backed up a possible HOF QB and I would think has a lot of insight over the situation and what you can and can’t accomplish as a backup QB

3. Leinart is simply pretty good, in a back-up role (we never found out what he might do as a starter due to 1 Kurt Warner (who was going to beat out Kurt Warner ?) and aformentioned dislike by Whisenhunt

4. 2009 – take out his 1 pass attempt game, and take out GB (which I do because that season ending game the Cards played 3 plays… period, and 2 1/2 of them were runs up the middle, even Warner left looking totally frustrated because he wasn’t allowed to be Kurt Warner in that game, so I refuse to hold it against Leinart either, it was loss by design.
So, take those 2 out and coming in as Backup (5 games in clean—up including NO in playoffs and 1 game as starter due to injury) his stats are :
Perc Complete – 74 %
QB Rating – 82

And remember, this is coming behind a Right Handed QB AND not having 1 single snap with the 1st team in practice, that’s right, NOT 1, even when they had to think there was a chance to start him in TENN, he got 0 practice with the 1s.

So, relax, you have a good QB who can step right in and sub a Right Handed QB.
And forget ‘chemistry’. If the coach hates your guts, that team is very quickly going to avoid you like you have Ebola. You guys will be fine, and so will Leinart.

by scsa69 on Sep 6, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the positive vote, but regarding point #2.....

after being hired one of the first things Kubiak was charged with was to evaluate David Carr, and while many may suggest that he was under undue pressure from his new boss Mr McNair to give the thumbs up, he did in fact not voice the right decision on Carr’s ability. Perhaps he was afraid to do so, but that too is a negative as AFAIAC. He (or he and Rick Smith) also whiffed on the Dan Orlovsky deal, and are now being stubborn and not admitting their error. He is a waste of salary and a roster spot. As recent history shows, he was correct on Schaub although I have no idea who the major player was in that deal. It may have been Rick Smith. Player evaluation, even QB’s by an ex-QB is obviously not an exact science.

I like the move if only because Dan O has shown absolutely no spark to date. I realize that Leinart’s CV to date is decidedly mediocre, but he would have a hard time being worse than Dan.

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by oiler-texan diehard on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I used to have some back channels to ownership in a round about way (very - but always accurate it turned out)

and there was definitely pressure to see if Carr could be fixed. That came from ownership, and probably overrides new management’s tendency to want to be rid of the previous regimes taint. Carr was so broken that if Kubiak had really fixed him he’d be seen a genius. It was no lose for him, so he went along.

In AZ well, they got lucky. Kurt Warner was a reclamation project who turned back into Greatest Show on Turf in a weird late career peak. Of course it’s going to be awkward with Leinart since AZ was basically begging Warner to come back.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's why I don't hate this

To me, this has little to do with backup QB and more to do with asset management. Kubes may like Booty (who doesn’t?) but he can get a Booty type QB off the waiver wire. Leinart, on the other hand was a minimum investment and if he can make him in to a viable QB — even a backup — they may be able to flip him for a draft pick later and still get Booty (that never gets old).

by Vega on Sep 6, 2010 8:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Never

Shouldn’t you be writing a semi-literate speculation for BR about now? No?

I think, best case, this turns into a Drew Henson moment for us (h/t to whomever originally mentioned it).

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I told you I quit that shit

when they kept asking what I was wearing while blogging.

It brought back to many painful memories.

by Vega on Sep 7, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Disturbing.

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by Cassieper on Sep 6, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude

made me laugh out loud..literally. Funny. Fucked up, but funny!

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by HoustonTransplant on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry if it's old news, but

Per Kuharsky:

Adibi listed as Cushing’s fil-lin at SLB. Antoine Caldwell is RG ahead of Mike Brisiel. Jamar Wall third at LCB

by Mike Kerns on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Im so confused.

There’s something weird going on over here.

Is the internet about to asplode?

by Jordann on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just you, Jordann

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 6, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jordann isn't.

He’s the one who asploded.

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by Cassieper on Sep 7, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

For some reason....

every time I see that I see assplode which in my twisted little mind translates into an ass explode, which then goes off into some really sick, twisted back alleys of the internet. Or my mind….sometimes the two seem to blend in a very disturbing fashion.

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Sep 7, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does that mean Wall is 5th on the CB depth chart?

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by bone31crusher on Sep 6, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leinart is definetly not taking Dan-O's number.

That’s seriously all I’m worried about right now

by .Bonzo on Sep 6, 2010 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

No, just his QB2 spot

I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?

by Rip Jersey on Sep 6, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

So this whole Leinart thing

I guess chalk me into the indifferent category. I don’t really care. We have Schaub. Schaub set the precedent last season by starting all 16 games and he did so with a new off season conditioning program. He’s not the type of player to go back to old ways. At least I don’t see that in him.

So now Leiny can stand on the side lines and learn from another great QB on how to properly utilize a great receiver. Well, ours is an all universe receiver who doesn’t look like Jar Jar Binks

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Sep 7, 2010 2:16 AM CDT reply actions  

The thing is

Should Schaub get hurt, who is more likely to step in and take you to the playoffs anyway?

1. Dan Orlovsky
2. Matt Leinart

And if Larry Fitz wants to come here too, that’s cool with me.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's the thing

Everyone is saying “Should Schaub get hurt” or if he goes down or whatever. If Peightaun goes down they got Painter. But you’re not seeing any of their fans sweating it or freaking out. I don’t even know who Brady’s backup is but they’re not bringing it up. Is it Volek?

Are people thinking one full season of Schaub playing was a fluke? I’m not.

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Sep 7, 2010 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL we're bored and ready for the REAL football season to begin

It’s rawhide chewy toy to gnaw on ;-).

grant us some leniency about freaking about using a roster slot on a 3rd string QB or possibly a back up QB. When the real season FINALLY starts this will be history.

by BattleRedFan on Sep 7, 2010 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

But Peytie never gets hurt. He's like a robot.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peyton's only gotten hurt once though,

and only for one play.

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by Cassieper on Sep 7, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

They have a...

robot technician, computer programmer, fluids guy, and a fluffer all on the wings just in case, but Peyton is the real T-1000 and doesn’t need much maintenance

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by Taco Joe on Sep 7, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, you mean when Tracy Porter hurt his feelings?

SB44 Pick Six

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by LoneSpot on Sep 7, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

i... was... just... beginning... to loooooooooooooooooooooove...............

powers down

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by chrisd21 on Sep 7, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

/yawns

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by Cassieper on Sep 7, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

SO in all this did we manage to find a another safety who can

actually, you know, play safety?

Sigh.

I thought not.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 2:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I know.

I just get hopeful. And just grabbing some dude off roster cuts, that can be done quietly, right?

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

In other news:

The Redskins are trying to trade Albert Haynesworth back to the Titans. They are working on a deal that would do so, via AS on twitter.

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by bone31crusher on Sep 7, 2010 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Awesome.

Good luck with that. NO REFUND!

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by peytonsurdaddy on Sep 7, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm happy with worthless Albert Haynesworth being in DC

rather than potentially dangerous Albert Haynesworth being in TEN.

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by Xiane on Sep 7, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Albert Haynesworth wrecks our O-line every time he plays us.

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by bone31crusher on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do this?

I think if he demonstrates an ability to learn the offense, and somehow gets close to his collegiate form at the pro level, and you can resign him for multiple years roll him out on the preseason and show he’s good then trade him for multiple draft choices, you’ve made the team better.

Basically, he’s a top 10 QB draft choice for almost nothing, so he represents a low cost investment with potential high yield. All we’re risking in NFL terms is chump change for 1 year and a roster spot.

Donovan McNabb can’t play forever, and Washington’s backup is Rex. Any other teams that run the Denver style offense and need a quarterback could use a Kubiak coached Matt.

If there’s a next year we’ll probably want to move up in the draft.

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by Tomriffic on Sep 7, 2010 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

To all of you who think that Leinart is a locker room cancer.

I give you evidence that the opposite is true.

Behold.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 7, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Brahsome.

Q: If losses by fewer than 7 points are 3 times more likely than blowout losses to cause Tim to get blindingly drunk, do you take the over or the under on the number of Scott appearances as 3.5?

TexansDC: False. You can’t get drunk from Coors Light.

by LoneSpot on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Sep 7, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

!

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 7, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

ROFL

Illegal icing procedure. LOL!

by BattleRedFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give OD a chance

why haven’t we just let O.D. take a few snaps? he may be rusty having not been under center in a good 6-7 years, but really how bad can he be?

by darkmagician on Sep 7, 2010 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

FIRE & HIRE

 i say , FIRE Orlovsky, and Matt Leinart
and HIRE John David Booty

by L0y@L on Sep 7, 2010 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Matt No-Heart

This move is beyond me…..This guy does not know how to lead….he is a bust!!!…..He has no “Huevos”…Now we have (2) orlovskys…..Better hope Matt stays healthy……WTH!!!!Now Kubes has two projects…..what has this team become?…the “Betty Ford Rehab Center for NFL Busts”

by flitemedic on Sep 8, 2010 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

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