2010 Review and 2011 Early Preview: Defensive Linemen
Part I: Secondary (also includes a brief description of this series).
Part II: Linebackers.
I'd like to thank the Academy for giving me this award, my mom and dad for making me in the back of a '65 Chevelle, and ProFootballFocus for providing me the stats and allowing me to present them here. Hit the jump.
Not unlike our time with the linebackers, there are going to be many changes to our defensive line in 2011. After all, there's a new sheriff in town, and not only is he packing a case of Zebra Cakes, he's actually got an idea on how to create a defense that doesn't rival the Maginot Line (too soon?).
Mario Williams was hardly dominant last year as he struggled with a hernia all season. Mario seems to have an injury every year that's detrimental to his play (foot, shoulder, etc.), though he should still be counted as a well-above average DE, a verdict in which PFF agrees. But Mario seems to have stagnated as a player in that his pass rush has failed to evolve, though he has improved against the run.
Still, I can't help but think that, if our defense has failed one player, it's Mario. We have consistently failed to put Mario in a position to succeed, relying on players such as Anthony Maddox, Jeff Zgonina, and The Corpse Formerly Known as Anthony Weaver beside him. It took a couple of years to bring in a DE book-end that wasn't embarrassing, and Antonio Smith is....something.
As of now, and against MDC's wishes, Wade is openly talking about putting Mario at DE in the Bruce Smith role. Either at OLB or DE, I'm intrigued, and I can see it working out well in either scenario. I must say that putting another true pass rusher off Mario's outside shoulder is especially intriguing to me.
Antonio Smith remains Antonio Smith, a player who can be incredibly disruptive on one play and make a stupid mistake the next. Smith's eight net penalties was tied for second in the league among 4-3 DEs, but his production was nowhere near the other two on that level, Trent Cole and Jason Babin (who still sucks, for the record). In yet another display of his wide-ranging play, Smith was 8th in the league for DEs with 43 QB pressures, but he was second in missed tackles with seven...out of only 22 tackles as a whole. That's downright pathetic. Overall, Smith is ranked #39, but the entirety of his value is as a pass rusher - he hurts you against the run and with the penalties - and with only three sacks, he needs to step up. The talent, at least, seems to be there.
Mark Anderson was a fantastic mid-season signing by Rick Smith, and in a third of Smith's snaps, Anderson picked up four sacks. In my opinion, there's absolutely no way in which he fits as an OLB, so Wade's opinion of Anderson at DE will decide the latter's fate with the team.
Another player who had a positive impact at the end of the season was Tim Jamison. In just 221 snaps, he had a sack and eight QB pressures, which would be 34 with the same number of snaps as Smith. That is not shabby in the least, and I hope we'll give him a good look for 2011.
Jesse Nading and Adewale Ogunleye also both received a number of snaps at DE, but their play was less than inspiring...unless you were inspired to chug more bleach, which WOULD make their play inspiring, I guess.
Speaking of bleach, on to the defensive tackles! You may want a crying hanky handy. Your top DT/NT, as ranked by PFF, was Shaun Cody. At #42. Yikes. Most of Cody's value is because he didn't commit a single penalty in 2010 (PFF awards not screwing up), but he's below average both in rushing the QB and in stopping the run. When you're the NT, stopping the run is a pretty important aspect of your job description.
Earl Mitchell comes in at #48, but he's almost exactly like Cody in that he wasn't penalized, but it's off-set with his poor play against the run. In over 300 snaps, he did have a sack and nine QB pressures, so there's some hope for his pass rush.
Where, you are asking yourself, is Amobi Okoye? At #59. Unlike Mitchell and Cody, Okoye committed six penalties. Like them, he's flat out poor against the run, ranking 69 out of 77 (oddly apropos considering how much he sucks against the run). For the last time: The last thing Okoye is or should be considered is a run-stuffing DT. Continuing to say this makes you obviously oblivious to all fact.
Rushing the passer, though, is where Okoye excels, ranking 19th overall. Okoye was 13th in QB pressures and tied for 3rd for QB hits with nine. If put into the proper role, primarily as a gap-shooting Land-to-QB missile, we could have a fearsome tool with Okoye. I consider Okoye example #85 of how poorly our personnel has been used by Richard Smith and Frank Bush.
The only other DT to receive significant snaps was Damione Lewis, who, from a production point of view, is a far better run stopper than anyone else on the roster. Quite frankly, he was the best NT on the roster last year for that purpose, but that's like being the prettiest girl in Oklahoma.
2011: So much is up in the air for next year with this group. If Mario and Smith become your starting DEs, a backup rotation of Anderson, Mitchell, and Jamison would be effective...if this is where they fit. Spending an early pick on a DE does not seem to be a need, though upgrading Smith is necessary at some point.
Putting Okoye at NT, if, again, his PRIMARY responsibility is shooting an A-gap, could result in a beast because he is just that good in creating pressure, though he's just that poor against the run. Even for me, this might squelch a degree of the sense of urgency to draft a NT early, and if we do, we'd better grab a difference-maker.
Overall, and as I've said throughout this series, a change in scheme will have the greatest impact. The Texans have done a fantastic job trying to crush square pegs into round holes, and with any degree of competence, Wade Phillips will be able to stop that grand tradition.
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That's a huge steaming pile of mediocrity
I hope Wade is a miracle worker because he’s got a mess to unfuck. Outside of Mario, we get a giant F for defensive line draft picks.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I don't know why we kept Kollar
I don’t get it at all. His record shows he’s horrible against the run, but every once in a while, he’ll have a squad create pressure. At what point does “proven strategy” evolve to become “proven to suck.”
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He's no coach, though
I have a print of Ted Williams above my desk, and I consider him the patron saint of great players don’t always become good coaches.
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So we suck?
I did not expect that analysis.
Frank Bush delenda est
I like to quantify the suck
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 25, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
You had me at goo.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 26, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
So to recap...
Okoye is an awesome run stuffer
Mitchel is potentially the next great NT under wade phillips.
And Antonio smith is good and terrible at the same time.
Awesome
by AllenOU on Jan 25, 2011 4:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I am not even from Oklahoma...
however,

I am totally optimistic about the Texans new season - at least until the first of the 4 or 2 (if any) preseason games
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 25, 2011 5:17 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I went to Oklahoma a month ago and I came back with one impression
The state color is camouflage.
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This is what she REALLY looks like

Photoshop can do amazing things.
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Someone found our new NT
Hooker Oklahoma. Most wonderful place on earth. Three brothels and a topless barber shop with hot community college chicks
by AllenOU on Jan 25, 2011 10:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Try the Drano
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jan 26, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
He sees the biscuits and gravy in the background.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 27, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
god she's hideous
but i cant look away
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 26, 2011 7:39 AM CST up reply actions
This HAS to be against some part of the Geneva Convention.
I can’t believe that exposing innocents to…to…THIS is not cruel and unusual punishment!
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by UprootedTexan on Jan 27, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
This picture is like a train wreck.....
you just can’t stop yourself from looking.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
maybe i miss something
but y’all think she is hot or something? Cause sorry she does not do anything for me.
She's originally from Texas and was supposed to compete in the Miss Texas pageant
But, ala Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma offered more money
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She would get to the qb every time.
Cause nobody would want to touch her.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
I dunno...
Sort of looks like a female Winston. Maybe they’d get into some cro-magon lovin’.
by Nashmeister on Jan 25, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
I know its from the 4 letter bastards but its pretty good info
(please dont ban me)
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/notebook?page=seniorbowl0125&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft2011%2fnotebook%3fpage%3dseniorbowl0125
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 26, 2011 8:25 AM CST reply actions
it talks a lot about Miller
and a few other guys we’ve discussed on here as possibilities for the Texan like Ryan Kerrigan, Cameron Jordan and Stephen Paea.
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 26, 2011 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
So what are the odds we could get a 2nd or 3rd for the ninja assassin?
And do you think Okoye and Mitchell would be able to handle the run stopping duties of a 5-technique DE?
Haven't we established the fact that Okoye & Mitchell sucked against the run this season?
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by The Night Owl on Jan 26, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Huh... I hadn't thought of that.
And just in case you missed it, that was sarcasm. I would have used my sarcasm font tag, but I left it in my other pants.
You wear pants?
Pfft.
No, no way in which either Mitchell or Okoye could be 5-technique DEs. They simply don’t have the ability (strength, size) to shed blockers, instead relying on their quickness to disrupt. Okoye has been most effective at a lower weight, thereby taking advantage of his short-burst speed.
HOWEVER, if MDC’s take is correct, then allowing these two to shoot gaps instead of tying up OLs, they could work. In my opinion, this is what’s made Ratliff so effective at NT at his size.
But we also don’t know precisely what Wade intends to do with the D just yet. It seems he’s been smart enough, at least on the front seven, to adjust the role to the player’s abilities.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 26, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
I should add...
That Ratliff is inconsistent against the run as well, grading just barely better than Okoye in 2010 by PFF (Ratliff has been better in the past). Then consider Ratliff is consistently in the top 10 in both sacks and, like Okoye, QB pressures. When you compare their size, speed, and if you squint hard enough at their numbers, you can see similarities. If you’re like me and don’t believe that Okoye has been put in a position to succeed, being relied upon heavily to stop the run, then if you put him in a Ratliff role, I can see good things happening.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 26, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Definitely all speculation at this point.
Should have specified I was asking about a one-gap 3-4 DE. I think putting Okoye at DE puts him in a better position to succeed than putting him at NT. I’ve heard the comparisons to Ratliff and that Wade can work with smaller, but I’d like to see a space-eating NT next year (maybe Taylor in a rotation with Lewis to keep fresh?).
How about the draft pick for Smith?
Smith
Between his contract and erratic play (and truly elite ability to commit stupid penalties), I doubt we could get a pick at all for him.
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Policy Shmolicy
I’m forced to wear pants because I would be far more disruptive at my job without them than Okoye could ever dream to be at his. Coincidentally (not ironically), the character in my pic is not wearing any.
That's odd...
because that’s EXACTLY where I can see them having an impact in this defense. I think both of them are strong enough to set the edge (as much as they’d be asked to in a one gap situation) and quick enough to beat a tackle or guard, if singled up. On the other side, I think neither of them are big enough to hold ground at NT when they’re doubled (and say what you will about a one-gap 3-4, the NT will be doubled once in a while, if he doesn’t get off the ball and into his gap with lightning quickness).
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Possibly
Okoye showed a lot of combine strength, but I haven’t seen it translate well to the field. Where I’ve seen most of his success is when he’s asked to be quick off the snap.
You’re definitely right that they couldn’t play as pure NTs in a classic 3-4, but we also don’t have a single person on the roster even remotely capable of filling that role.
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Right...
And even though Wade’s 3-4 doesn’t REQUIRE one of those behemoths, I’d still like a decent portion of our free agent dollars to go to someone that more closely resembles one.
And you’re right about most of Amobi’s strength being in weight room presses. I’d just feel more comfy with them on the edges and a mountain in the middle. Mental masturbation continues.
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You know I like beefy guys in the middle, so no argument here.
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I'd like to see
A DE pickup that will allow us to combo Mario/Barwin at WOLB, just as they have at DE in the past. I get all the “could be the next Bruce Smith” comments, but that’s Bruce Friggin Smith. He could’ve been dominant at almost any position on the field. Mario completely fits the Demarcus Ware role in Wade’s current D, so why the piss wouldn’t we put him there, and have Barwin back him up? Connor will still get Nickle D snaps at end, so it’s not like he’s wasted.
Have Amobi, Mitchell, Draft pick, and Jamison rotating at the ends; Damione Lewis, Cody, and semi-major FA acquisition rotating at NT. This lets the pass rushing specialists rotate around the OLB spots to do what they do.
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Because Mario isn't a great pass-rusher...
He’s a great all-around player. I have no doubt that he would be a good OLB; 10-12 sacks a year, at the least. But most of his development in recent years has been in his run-stopping ability. To me at least, it seems like a waste to move him to a position that won’t utilize that quite as much.
Possibly
It might also be that he’s being asked to do too much in his previous role. Ware’s got two jobs on each play, and I think it’s 90% getting to the QB, and 10% run contain. Mario was prolly hovering in the 50/50 spot because he’s so all-around.
And if you think I won’t take 10-12 from him in that position, you’re crazy. That’s assuming he’d also play some DE in nickle/dime, thus possibly adding to that total from OLB and taking him to around 15-18 on the year. Yeah, I’ll take that.
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I just think it's easier to find somebody who can rush the passer from the OLB position...
Than somebody who can do it from the DE position. I think your overall QB pressure increases, because the gap between Mario’s pass-rushing ability and anyone else you would ask to play DE is greater than the gap between Mario at OLB and whoever might play there instead. There aren’t many guys out there with the physical gifts to get pressure as a 3-4 DE. But there’s a pretty good chance Mario is one of the select few.
by Nashmeister on Jan 28, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Ok, I'll buy that.
It’s just that, when I envision the 3-4, I see the 3 DL’s as basically all DT’s in a 4-3 (very strong, bigger bodies, with some quickness and ability to beat 1on1 blocks), and the majority of your pass rushing is going to come from the 1-2 LB’s the coordinator chooses to bring. In Dallas, you could pretty much guarantee that Ware was coming every time, as the 4th rusher, and THAT’S what I’d like from Mario…. OLB in name alone.
What you’re kind of saying is that Mario = Igor Olshansky, when I know there’s another Igor we can find that would make Mario = Ware, and I refuse to get behind the former. Unless, of course, I’m forced to.
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That usually is the case.
DTs who don’t have the size to play NT will shift over to DE in the 3-4. That’s what Olshansky did; same with Glenn Dorsey so far. I think Earl Mitchell is an option there. Maybe Okoye as well. But every once in a while, you get a beastly DE who can handle that role. It’s one of the reasons Tyson Jackson was such a prized commodity in the draft.
Again, nobody is saying Mario couldn’t handle the DeMarcus Ware role. But he has 25-30 pounds on Ware… Even if Mario matches Ware and gives you 12-15 sacks per year, I still think there’s somebody out there (be it Barwin, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, etc.) who could give you 10-12 from that spot. Whereas there are very few 3-4 DEs in the league who are good for more than 2-3 per year. Mario, I think, would give you pass-rushing ability from a position that isn’t usually known for it. The way I see it, it would be the football equivalent to having a shortstop who knocks 25+ homers per year.
Yeah, I get it. And good points.
I just think people get caught up into what Bruce Smith did at DE in a 3-4, and project it onto Mario. I just see him having more success at OLB, but if a Bawrin/Miller/etc. can do the same as Mario in that spot, they should absolutely look into it. And it’s not that no one is saying he couldn’t do handle the Ware role, it’s that most comments I read are completely ignoring it as an option, thinking “Oh, he played DE? Bruce Smith played DE in this scheme… Mario’s staying a DE.”
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Mario is going to play everywhere. But predominantly at LE and WLB, I'd bet.
Barwin could end up playing both OLB spots, at that.
Lewis and Cody at NT wouldn’t be nearly as bad as everyone expects.
let me amend this by saying they'll probably be just fine at NT for Wade
Especially Damione Lewis. Though, neither is the long-term answer, obviously.
Agree on Lewis and Cody, but I think everyone would certainly like more bulbous options there
Disagree on Barwin, as I don’t want to ever see him covering a TE. WOLB only for him.
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in college, Barwin was a TE, himself
I would assume that he had enough mobility (at least pre-injury).
While that doesn’t automatically mean he can play in coverage… it is also remiss to think he couldn’t, due merely to the fact he’s spent his pro career as a (250 lb) DE.
I’ll go out on a limb here, and say you’d love to see it, so long as Wade is able to teach him to prosper at it.
And if my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.
Not really going out on a limb saying I’d be accepting if Wade makes every player on D magically delicious all of a sudden. By your rationale, Mario used to play baseball, where he had to throw, so lets try him out at QB.
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