Texans Down 'N Dirty: One Man's Trash Edition
by Jake on Jan 26, 2011 9:05 AM CST
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PrintSenior Bowl week is in full swing. It's a good thing too because there is NOTHING going in the world of the Houston Texans. I can only imagine how fun it is going to be to scrounge up links for this post next week, but I'll worry about that when it gets here. For right now, we've got the Senior Bowl to focus on, which has plenty of media scrutiny, but with all of that scrutiny comes variation. All this week, writers are just judging for themselves how players are preforming, and you get a lot of differences of opinion. Follow the jump to see the various links and my take on the proceedings yesterday.
Need proof that there is nothing going on Texans-centric? John McClain wrote yesterday that the Texans will likely use most of their draft to concentrate on defense, and Von Miller is a front runner for the eleventh pick. That's it for the mainstream media for the Texans as far as I can tell.
Lance Zierlein is the only Texans specific writer that I know of in Mobile, and here is his Day Two Report.
Patrick at the Texans Tribune also wrote a report from the Texans view point: North - South.
Here are some other prominent reports from yesterday:
Wes Bunting/National Football Post: North - South.
Tony Pauline/Draft Insider: North - South.
Joe Everett/NFL Draft Bible: North - South.
Shane Hallam/Draft Countdown: North - South.
Rob Rang/CBS Sports Draft: South - South Part 2.
Cal DE/DT Cam Jordan seemed to be the unanimous star of the day, and the adjective "unblockable" was used as a descriptive several times. Phil Taylor had another solid day, with minor complaints about getting high, and Stanford DT Sione Fua had a good day, but there are disagreements whether he's a NT or five technique in a 3-4 scheme. Purdue DE/OLB Ryan Kerrigan received mixed to negative reviews, and Oklahoma DE/OLB Jeremy Beal had a rough day.
Sorry for the short piece today, but real life has gotten in the way. I should have another draft-centric article up either later in the day or tomorrow.
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Beal looks terrible
He will fit right in
by AllenOU on Jan 26, 2011 9:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Looks like more than most are sold on Miller.
Maybe it’ll be a moot point for us to debate taking him at 11 as he could be off the board already.
It was a done deal last year for Clay Matthews two years ago...
And I forget now who he said we were taking last year. Lol.
His inside sources are there just to throw everyone else off.
He was touting Ryan Mathews as a Pro Bowler
Mathews had a forgettable year. Had some nagging injuries, couldn’t outshine Mike Tolbert, and Arian Foster dominated.
Dumbly, McClain’s tried to make everyone think he was touting McCourty…but anyone with a search engine can see differently
"Lord, beer me strength."
Plus
He threw that fit in the press box and kept bitching that the team had led him astray re: Mathews.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 26, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Sadly...
I knew McCourty would be good, and still didn’t take him in my live draft or shadow. I also wanted McCluster…now that would’ve been a WR2 worth developing.
by Fuzion on Jan 26, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He expected
A reach-around.
Frank Bush delenda est
I should have been more clear in that comment I think.
I meant he might already be taken by another team by the time we get to pick at 11. Not that the Texans are absolutely positively sure to pick him at 11 like that sentence might have read. 1s and 0s are sooo much easier to work with than the English language.
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by UprootedTexan on Jan 26, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know what the type of underwear that UT prefers under his Panda Suit has to do with anything...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
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If I had to draft right now
I’d go Cam Jordan in 1 and Sione Fua in 2.
I’d also stay the hell away from Miller and Kerrigan.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Also....McClain WOULD tout for Miller
An overrated local guy. What else is new from the Comicle?
"Lord, beer me strength."
Remember, TDC
This just means we aren’t targetting Miller. Right? Right? Please say that’s the case…
I couldn’t bear having a failure of a draft pick in the first round…again.
Cam Jordan would play DE in the 3-4?
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
He would
but the dude’s been so beastly this week…if the pick HAD to be defense then he’s the only one I’d feel comfortable with at 11 (Prince notwithstanding).
"Lord, beer me strength."
I would be fine with BPA
Antonio Smith drives me nuts
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
One man's trash...
Is the Texans’ premier free-agency signing.
by Nashmeister on Jan 26, 2011 12:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
what about reeves - two year wonder
and i think VON will go to zona after his freakish combine, which is a win for the texans since he will be gone.
Im still hoping for julio jones and if he is BPA, then you take him
And then we still can't stop anyone with our defense?
While that sounds about par for the course for this coaching staff, it’s a horrible draft plan.
To be fair...
We really aught to be past the point of drafting for a current need. Fact of the matter is, if you key in on a specific position, you generally wind up reaching. (See Jackson, Kareem). And let’s be honest, ignoring last year even, would we be a better team going forward with Kareem Jackson, or Dez Bryant?
I’ve seen enough draft busts in my time to come to the conclusion that you go with the known talent. Especially when you’re getting into the realm of requiring pretty much any potential front-seven draftee to play a new position, and you don’t even know what you have in the 3-4 on your current roster.
So your rationale is that since we don't know what we have in the 3-4...
… we ought to draft a WR if he’s “the better talent” just in case?
Our offense isn’t perfect, but no draft picks in this draft should go toward it.
Nope.
That’s just an added wrinkle that further complicates the idea of drafting for need.
The rationale was, as stated in the previous paragraph, that you shouldn’t go into the draft targeting a specific position. And even if you think your ninth-ranked scoring offense doesn’t need any more help (despite the fact that Kevin Walter seems to have regressed, and Jacoby Jones is unreliable and a free agent), if a great talent falls into your lap, you take it.
Sometimes your needs and the BPA coincide; that happened with Cushing, and it turned out OK. Other times, they don’t. For instance in 2008, when there was a run on OTs and we reached for Duane Brown. Or 2010, with Kareem.
And for the record, to say “no draft picks in this draft should go towards” the offense is a bit silly, no?
by Nashmeister on Jan 26, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
No, not silly at all.
I didn’t say our offense was perfect, but pardon me if I think fixing the numerous holes on defense is unequivocally more important than addressing WR#2. Second WR is safely 5th on our list of needs, at best. No matter how good Julio Jones ends up being, he’s not going to help the team enough to warrant taking him over defensive talent.
Ideally, sure.
But people seem to be laboring under the impression that we’ll have a Free Agency period any time before August. We can’t just assume we’re going to be able to address the defense with something besides the draft.
I don’t think waiting an additional year to draft a number two WR is “mortgaging the future of the offense,” particularly considering this coaching staff won’t be around if we don’t fix the defense.
good points
though I’ll go on record, stating that the offense might have bigger draft needs than “replacing Walter” (like RB depth; offensive tackle; “return specialists”; perhaps a mobile type QB; and TE of course)…
I get the desire to go defense in the first-round...
If it’s a linebacker. In that situation, you can realistically expect a high level of play from your rookie. But if you’re targeting a CB or DT with that pick and the top two guys are gone at those positions, odds are you’re going to reach and get a guy who isn’t going to be an impact-player in his rookie year.
Good player for the long-term? Sure. But alls I’m saying is that if we’re concerned that our defense is bad going into 2011, then it shouldn’t really matter who we draft this year, because it’s not going to make a significant difference in how the defenses fares this year.
by Nashmeister on Jan 26, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
and there's always the unthinkable to think about
We should be lining up prospects to fill Andre’s shoes in the future. He’s going into his 9th season and he’s started to get banged up. If he were to go down for an extended period of time I do not feel overly confident in Jones, Walter, Dickerson, and Anderson being the long term solution.
At some point we will be forced to address WR.
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question.
How much did the Offense fall off with Dre out?
Legitimate question.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Not too much, but he certainly makes an impact
Not to mention it didn’t hurt so much with Arian Foster carrying the load
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by The Night Owl on Jan 27, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Not to rock the boat, but I'd say one of our most balanced offensive efforts all season...
… was that first game when Andre was out.
I’m not suggesting the team is better without Andre, but I do think there is an immense amount of pressure from perhaps as high up as McNair to feed Johnson the ball, sometimes to the detriment of the rest of the offense. Throwing it to Johnson is never bad, but when Schaub was having to balance throwing to Walter, Jones, and Dreessen with handing off to Foster, the offense still looked crisp and effective.
re: duane reach
San Diego has been on record that they were taking him with the next pick, if we didn’t. Continue with your regurgitations…
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Gotta to say i love this.
- TCU center Jake Kirkpatrick struggled at times with bullrushes today and Baylor’s Phil Taylor was the primary culprit. Taylor was handing out bullrushes to several offensive linemen today.
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just wondering where mark barron is ranked?
you know how much we love the SEC boys or better yet Bama Boys. Do you think we should get him at all? Was in a 3-4 D in college already.
Hmm, let me put in my insight.
Lets just draft Cam Newton at #11. Then, we'll have VY2.0
by typhoon.infamous on Jan 26, 2011 3:24 PM CST reply actions
If he's smart he will...
I think that Cam Newton showed an ability to concentrate and perform at a high level in the face of off-the-field distractions that is nothing short of tremendous.
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
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I am totally optimistic about the Texans new season - at least until the first of the 4 or 2 (if any) preseason games
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 27, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Not to mention...
He prolly tied his shoes this morning without drooling on them.
That was a joke…. but in all seriousness, Radio is retard and needs to die in a fire.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
/laughing... I love this place
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