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Texans Trade For Derrick Mason, Sign Trindon Holliday And Jesse Nading, Waive David Anderson And Chris Ogbonnaya

I believe the word is "frenzy."  Some quick thoughts after the jump.

Star-divide

-This is undoubtedly an indictment of Jacoby Jones. Not only do the Texans sign another WR, but they sign another return man so Jakespeare can "focus on [his] primary position." I guess I was mistaken, because I thought returning punts was Jacoby's primary position. The overwhelming weight of his career evidence sure does indicate that it isn't wide receiver.

-Why would Trindon Holliday return kickoffs? Danieal Manning has been an excellent return man. That makes no sense to me.

-I'm fine with the price of a conditional draft pick for Derrick Mason. I just don't think Mason has much left in the tank. Still, he's likely to have better hands than Jakespeare and therefore will catch more than one of every eleven balls thrown his way. That qualifies as an upgrade.

-While I'm a bit surprised the Texans parted ways with David Anderson (again), I really shouldn't be.

-I trust that the decision to jettison Chris Ogbonnaya means Ben Tate and/or Derrick Ward will be ready to go on Sunday in Baltimore. That's a rare bit of good news.

-John McClain reports that Andre Johnson will not play on Sunday. Disappointing, but almost surely for the best.

-Jesse Nading is the new Brooks Reed. Which means Brooks Reed simply has to do a reasonable approximation of Mario Williams. No sweat, right?

Your thoughts on today's moves, BRB?

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Holliday?

There goes our return game sigh

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Oct 12, 2011 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm cautiously optimistic.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 12, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow... That Nolie is a MASTER of sub-text...

…now about that pizza…
/sniff-sniff

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to rdc the creative and truthful aspect of this

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm optimistic

that they will kidnap Darren Sproles and put him in a Holliday jersey.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

That

Would be pretty dope.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Oct 14, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am optimistic

because the blocking this year seems a lot better than last year. Than again, I want the little man to succeed.

by Jahon on Oct 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

So... I'm a bit confused...

I’ve read that MightyMite is going to:
- return kickoffs (not a bad idea; potential for a breakaway run)
- return punts ( a BAAAAD idea; potential for being turned into a grease spot or just staining himself, throwing the ball up in the air and running squealing into the locker room.)

Does anyone really know which is the real option?

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Supposedly both

Kubiak seemed to think after practice that Manning and Jacoby are seeing so many snaps at their main positions that they needed to bring in someone to relieve them a bit.

by WhiskeyR on Oct 12, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't buy that about Manning

He’s not really returning that many kicks, and it doesn’t appear to be effecting his play on the field. Still, Holliday also has potential explosiveness as a returner so it doesn’t hurt if they give him a shot. If he blows they’ll just put Manning back there again.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

His average has dropped slowly since the first couple weeks.

He could return a lot of kickoffs in Chicago because they didn’t play him as much as the Texans are. He’s to important to this defense to have returning kicks especially since Mario went down.

Since our return game has already fizzled out it’s time to move him out of that role good move by Kubiak.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You ordered a cheese pizza, you're getting a cheese pizza

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally

I think this whole thing is meant as a final attempt to light a fire under Jacoby’s add. Not only is there an obvious threat to have Holliday take away his punt return duties, but both he and Mason are WR’s, although one could argue Holliday is only one on paper at the moment. Still, that’s two players to potentially take away playing time from Jones.

The writing is clearly on the wall. Perform or be gone. And we all know Kubiak ain’t afraid to pull the trigger.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

*ass

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is one more dangerous or destined for disaster than the other?

Assuming he’s returned punts before and knows the two key options:
1. You can fair catch if you’re going to get hit.
2. You don’t have to catch the ball at all if you’re inside your own 10 yard line.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Oct 14, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can tell Manning is wearing down returning kicks.

It’s time to stop having him return kickoffs and let him be a Safety first and foremost.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Oct 12, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed this too.

It is exacerbated when the offense keeps doing 3 & Outs and the defense doesn’t get a rest. Can you imagine a high scoring game (both sides) where he is on the field a lot as Safety and returning more than three or four kickoffs?

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 13, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like a bit of a panic

Could be because of injuries, could be because of the loss to the Raiders. I just hope the FO doesn’t go into full-out tail-spin mode and take the season down with it.

Yup…already being pessimistic about the season.

by MaloneyPony on Oct 12, 2011 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

moving around our depth

while improving 1/2 of our WR2. I don’t see panic.

I see they realize they are coaching/FO’ing for their jobs, which of course they are.

But I prefer shaking things up to standing pat with mediocrity. I really like the Mason move, even if he doesn’t get 5 catches after AJ comes back, I bet he helps the next two weeks, half of which is one of the most important weeks of the season.

my Z key can't take another free agent flurry

by texanphil on Oct 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's better than Anderson and Jacoby, so...

just by that alone, I see him adding value in the post-Andre-return games.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Oct 14, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frankly, THIS is the kind of movement I've expected to see in several previous seasons...

I am SIGNIFICANTLY encouraged that they aren’t sitting on their hands “going with what they’ve got” when “what they’ve got” is a sullen ADHD-afflicted speedy moron with the hands of … well a BASSET HOUND!!! SERIOUSLY! I’VE GOT NO THUMBS and I could catch better than that moron.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

In hindsight

How did we not make a play for another outside receiver during free agent frenzy?

1. Dickerson was obviously cut because he’s a knucklehead. We knew this info last year, right?
2. Jacoby has been unreliable his entire career. Was giving him more disposable income supposed to shore up his immaturity?
It’s Smithiak’s responsibility to know this stuff. I’m disappointed again.

Also, why didn’t they make a play for Donnie Avery? Seems to fit our needs better than Mason.

Holliday is hot garbage.

by ahem! on Oct 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I believe

Donnie Avery is already on a roster.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

These are sound, logical moves

especially if the premise is: “Jacoby sucks, let’s try and make up for his lack of production.”

While I am confused about the Holliday signing as well, I see the purpose for it. Our special teams could use a nice jolt, and if Holliday can provide it, I’m down. Mason was a solid pickup and Nading provides legit depth. Not a bad day at the office for Rick Smith.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

ya, I agree.

I’m just thinking he might be better than we think. Or he’s been improving? Iono, it looks like one of those: “let’s see if this works” kinda thing.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow... what more can you say?

The trade that happened earlier this morning was a great move, and we were all shocked at the fact the FO decided to move considering how rare it is. Now, it seems, they’re starting to get a little frantic with moves.

We have a good team… we just need to not allow boneheaded plays. Plain and simple. I hope this is the last bit of news we hear on the trade front.

by Bennyscrap on Oct 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

BTW...

why are we still stuck with Shaun Cody?

by Bennyscrap on Oct 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

3.2 ypc for McFadden?

Still well down our list of problems.

by Nashmeister on Oct 12, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

^This

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Truth

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cody's not bad at all.

He’s a solid rotational dlineman. We have far bigger problems, imho.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that I disagree, as Cody played much better against Al Davis

But I have a bad feeling that our NT issues are going to be extremely compounded by the fact that we are now missing Mario in the run-D.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Oct 13, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

But the run D shut down the Raiders running game – half of their run yardage was the fake punt

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 13, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goldilocks is better at run stopping than Mario...

He doesn’t get as much penetration as quickly and therefore he’s closer to the ball carrier…Mario sucks at run stopping because he’s on the QB so quickly or at least trying to go wide around the lineman.

by Peckerwood on Oct 13, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

sucks at run stopping

I hardly think so. Mario is pretty good at stopping the run when the play comes his way.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 13, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not true.

I’d explain why, but I’m guessing that Reed will demonstrate that with multiple instances of blown containment against Ray Rice this weekend.

by Nashmeister on Oct 13, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also hope he doesn't

but the few times I’ve noticed Reed so far this year have been instances when he lost contain on a play.

by Tailgate Andy on Oct 14, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks good to me

Nading is a move out of necessity due to Mario, Mason (or anyone for that matter) is an upgrade over JJ, and Holiday on kick-offs is not that big of a concern since they are not taken out as much anymore. Now on punt returns, I guess we shall see…But overall the news of Ward and Tate being ready is great, and once AJ returns next week ( I hope) I think we will be in good shape.

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Oct 12, 2011 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Not to mention

if Holliday fails to impress (again) you still have the original two return guys available.

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Oct 12, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which means he'll be cut again & David Anderson will get resigned........again

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the 37th time

Or something like that

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Shake up move

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shake n' bake

"I am not a number. I bleed, I think, I feel, I hurt, I mourn, I cry, I laugh. We and you are the same. You are us. Love with me." -Arian Foster's twitter... Follow him, hilarity ensues.

by RayFinkle1985 on Oct 13, 2011 8:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yep...

I will wait until after the two upcoming divisional games to panic…or not…..

"No matter where you go....There you are" - Buckaroo Banzai

by buckaroo_banzai on Oct 12, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

tits game

is much bigger than the Jags.

I think we stomp the Jags. I hope we stomp the BE-SFs.

A loss v. the tits puts us in catch-up mode, regardless of what happens this weekend.

my Z key can't take another free agent flurry

by texanphil on Oct 12, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Texans' LOST timeline keeps on timejumping....

I can’t make sense out of it.

I need answers!!!!!

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I believe there is a small glitch

In the flux capacitor

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just shuddered all of a sudden

b/c it just hit me how bad Mario’s loss is going to be. Delayed traumatic experience. Very scary.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Possibly

But it’s time to find out what the 2nd rounder has. Hopefully he’s ready.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya man

let’s hope the ghost of Clay Matthews hair gives his powers to Brook Reed.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you'd see him in on some screen passes if that was to happen

That may be about it

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope we see

at least two screen passes to Foster per drive from here on out.

my Z key can't take another free agent flurry

by texanphil on Oct 12, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And a pulling left guard named Wade Smith who hits his assigned block so the screen isn't snuffed

I’d like to see that!

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He screwed over two 3rd down screens and nine other 3rd down conversions

On the screens, he wiffed and missed his man resulting in blown up screens, and the others all made their blocks.

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I saw him sucking.

I don’t do any analysis of the game tape, but I seem to recall poor blocking on screens by more than one lineman (on the same play). ALL of those plays would’ve realized 10 to 15 yards more, if the blocking were sound.

by ahem! on Oct 12, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is why I specified

TO FOSTER. Cuz blocking doesn’t seem to be an issue when he gets the ball in space.

my Z key can't take another free agent flurry

by texanphil on Oct 12, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya,

while I love Wade Smith, I do believe that this was one of his worse games. Let’s hope he fixes it and moves on. Oh, and if Brisiel is out does that mean Caldwell gets a start? If I remember correctly, he was starting last season? Either way, I think we won’t miss a beat with Caldwell.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s kind of what I was thinking. I’d hate to see him run between the tackles but as a pass catching back he may be worth something

by maroonedTexan on Oct 12, 2011 3:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It would be smart if they used him like that.

He wasn’t a reciever in college, he was more of a running back. He caught most of his passes non bubble screens and screens and flares outta the backfield. I din’t think he’d ever be as good as Darrin Sproles, but I think those type of playes that Sproles are used on are the type of plays that Kubiak should call for Holliday. It’s much easier to be a short RB these days, rather than a short WR.

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Oct 12, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dexter McCluster has looked bad as a RB for KC

and he weighs even more than Holliday.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I went to middle school & high school with him

He definitely didn’t have the bulk on him then that he has now

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, they can't afford the good stuff at UH

I’m just saying he got much bigger at UH, & his running style is much different now than it was in high school. He was more of a finesse speedy RB at Humble, but now he’s more of a bruiser

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

the staff is looking at next week’s tits game as extremely important. So if you make moves this week, we’re better set up to destroy us some BE-SFs.

Now lets just call plays and execute with the mindset that we are out to destroy everyone. Its time to step on their throats.

my Z key can't take another free agent flurry

by texanphil on Oct 12, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Hahahaha! Kubiak? Step on throats?

@yeh, that’ll happen!

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'd probably apologize if he did that

#that’soneme

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHHAH!

I do like Kubiak’s demeanor though. He seems like a very genuine and nice person.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron Curry

Can he play OLB in a 34 defense? Is he worth taking a look at?

by RenoTexans on Oct 12, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

No

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not.

Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.

Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braman for now is strickly a special teams player

He’s kinda underweight to be playing as a 3-4 OLB in Wade’s scheme, & he may not be ready for it either

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

he seemed pretty good in preseason

i know its preseason but hey give him a shot as a backup see what he can do

by jags52982 on Oct 12, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

not true...

Koobz said in his presser that Judge Dread will get more playing time.

"my momma was the Mike Vick of ass whuppin. side arm delivery, no wasted motion.. and very mobile." - @doobieman21

youtube/chrisdogan

by chrisd21 on Oct 12, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technically he is backing up Reed

Nading is backing up Barwin

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reed

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

so before

we had barwin and mario
backed up by reed now we have
reed and barwin
backed up by braman and nading

by jags52982 on Oct 12, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was actually

Reed and Braman backing up before (in that order)

New Defense Depth Chart

DE J.J. Watt | Tim Bulman
DT Shaun Cody | Earl Mitchell
DE Antonio Smith | Tim Jamison
SLB Connor Barwin | Jesse Nading
ILB Brian Cushing | Tim Dobbins
ILB DeMeco Ryans | Darryl Sharpton
WLB Brooks Reed | Bryan Braman
LCB Kareem Jackson | Jason Allen | Brandon Harris
RCB Johnathan Joseph | Brice McCain | Sherrick McManis | Roc Carmichael
SS Glover Quin | Dominique Barber
FS Danieal Manning | Troy Nolan

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

what I'm trying to get at is

I hope braman gets a shot it seems that if you kept him on the team instead of nading that he should get a shot

by jags52982 on Oct 12, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he'll get some time but it'll be a slow process

And if he shows flashes then his reps will increase

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would much rather see Bawin get his first team snaps as the WLB

Right now, he’s a better pass rusher than Reed, and I think he has 10 sack potential if he’s let loose for 90% of the snaps.

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Oct 12, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I've been living under a rock the past few days,

So bear with me. I saw Mario’s injury, but I just now heard that he was put on IR. How long is he expected to be out?

As for Mason, good move. Obvious upgrade over Jones.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

IR means done for the season

And this was his last year with a contract, so we’ll see what happens during the offseason.

by Karsh on Oct 12, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

Seems the fates are conspiring against us this season.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Oct 12, 2011 3:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't like letting OBGYN go

That leaves you with a cadre of running backs who have each had injury issues this year. Say Tate IS back this week- but re-injures the ankle in the first quarter. Who spells Arian? Do we then go away from the run? We saw how well that worked last week.

While OBGYN was not 1, 2, or 3 (yet) he was the only RB who has been healthy the entire year. And this year, that’s important.

I don’t understand signing Holiday from the PS and waiving Anderson. DA looked okay last week, and he’s got to be better at WR than Holiday. And I agree with Tim about Jakespeare’s primary position (although his primary position at this point to should be “pine polisher”).

by Vince Stros on Oct 12, 2011 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe JJ is gone next week

if Holliday has any success on PRs.

my Z key can't take another free agent flurry

by texanphil on Oct 12, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's gonna require a lot of hope

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worst case scenario

We bring him back up again. I’m sure they’ll get him back on the PS.

by WhiskeyR on Oct 12, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have to let him go

before putting him back on PS

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

did u guys read the Gil Brandt article

on NFL.com? He says that he thinks that the Texans should trade a 7th round pick for Jason Taylor. I concur, maybe not with Taylor, but trading a future pick to get an OLB. I think it needs to be done.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd do it

We’re in “win now” mode and Taylor’s resume speaks for itself. He’s already proven he can be an effective situational pass rusher in a 3-4.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd do it, but I don't know if they have an extra one...

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Oct 12, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

ya, no doubt, I’d definitely do it too. Do you think Tamba Hali is worth looking at from KC? It looks like that team is going nowhere fast, maybe a mid round pick and JJ would do it?

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tamba ain't going that cheaply.

He might have been the best pass rusher in football last year and he’s on a fresh five-year extension. Easily worth a first.

by Nashmeister on Oct 13, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

probably even more than a first

he’s still pretty young.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

ahhh

too steep a price you think? If it’d cost a first, maybe that would be pretty steep.

by wiseonekms on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be honest, I'd probably do it for a first.

He’s a proven badass at WOLB in a 3-4, and he’s under contract for five more years. It’s a pretty big contract, but probably less than what Mario will get, and there are less durability concerns.

by Nashmeister on Oct 13, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

ohhh

so you’re saying forfeit a 1st for Tamba, let go of Mario and live with a compensation pick? Ballsy, and I like it.

by wiseonekms on Oct 13, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the opposite of "like?"

Because that’s what I think of it.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Oct 14, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

"dislike?"

lol. But, I see where Nash is going with that one. Mario’s been consistently hurt, Hali is in his prime and would be an ideal rush olb in our 3-4. If it cost us a 1st rounder (which is a steep price) and maybe a player like Jacoby or something, it’d be worth entertaining. But, I can see why many would prefer Mario. He was looking like a “defensive player of the year” candidate before the injury.

by wiseonekms on Oct 14, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT

There’s a guy who posts at Arrowhead Pride, Chris Sembower, who posterized Dwayne Bowe’s circus catch from last weekend. He’s an awesome artist and I suggest you check out his page, linked above. He also has an awesome poster of Wade Phillips he did earlier that I think you will appreciate.

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude

I want a posterized version of Arain Foster Namaste

"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Oct 12, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

How did this not INSTANTLY turn green upon TNO hitting the "Post" button?

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because they haven't been posterized yet?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Did the security guy tear a pectoral muscle during this?

If not, can he play special teams?

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

someone have a good pic

of the Andre vs the leprechaun? i would still want Namaste posterized get both put on wall where women can see and be impressed… someone send him an email

"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Truthfully, I would much rather have the posterized version of the Philly fan getting tasered

#don’ttasemebro

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good stuff

I wouldn’t want to injure the only real safety, on the team during special teams.
Ob1 will return to the practice squad, or be signed by another team.
Mason might be elder, but Jacoby is terrible.
I would like to see Jacoby traded for something.

2 Defensive Scores are in the Karma Bag
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"

by WreckNTexan on Oct 12, 2011 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

for an OLB?

I hope we could pull something like that off. I heard Aaron Curry is on the trade market. U think it’d make sense to package Jacoby and a 3rd rounder for Curry?

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not give Holliday a real shot/

At the end of training camp he seemed to be finding a groove on returns. His speed is unreal (go watch LSU Holliday highlights on youtube). He’s got better homerun ability than JJ and maybe even Manning every time he touches the ball. We drafted him…why not see if it finally works?

by New Texican on Oct 12, 2011 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

We could have Wlford Brimley or Usain Bolt returning kicks and get the same results with the lack of blocking

and craptastic special teams play under Marciano.

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maraiano

Guy should of been fired along with Bush. The Texans ST play has been terrible since they were an expansion team. They can’t block on KR, or PR.

2 Defensive Scores are in the Karma Bag
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"

by WreckNTexan on Oct 12, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marciano*

2 Defensive Scores are in the Karma Bag
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"

by WreckNTexan on Oct 12, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

They can block

in the back

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That one annoys me

It just seems like a mental mistake that is inexcusable.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Oct 12, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously man

we need to move on from Marciano.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

confused.

why release anderson???

"my momma was the Mike Vick of ass whuppin. side arm delivery, no wasted motion.. and very mobile." - @doobieman21

youtube/chrisdogan

by chrisd21 on Oct 12, 2011 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Whats the deal with

Juaquin Iglesias? Un-tapped talent maybe? Wasnt he really good in college ball?

by Texan5513 on Oct 12, 2011 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

he was great at OU

he has size, 6-1, 210…. and speed, 4.45. I think he can excel in this system, but he has knocks as far as work ethic and intelligence is concerned. If he puts in the time and effort, could be a solid #2 for us. dont bank on it

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Oct 12, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

You had me at work ethic and intelligence

didn’t we just get enough of that from Jacoby? Instincts of a box of rocks and lazy route running?

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

took him 2 years to learn enough of the OU playbook to be on the field

kenny stills played from DAY 1

and sam bradford made him look a little better than he was

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Oct 12, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

FTFY
Instincts and hands like a box of rocks and lazy route running?

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Mental Midget from Humble strikes yet again...Priceless Gary, priceless

The Denver reject and head coaching charlatan defies description…idiot, imbecile, ignoramus, ad infinitum… Please God, make it stop.

by GKtheHumbleCharlatan on Oct 12, 2011 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes.. we should fire Gary and go hire any other coach.

I bet we could get Marvin Lewis or Tony Sparano after this season.. They'd really turn us around

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

Whoever is in line to fall off the Belechick-tree. I might put that guy on the list.

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comicle and TexansTalk commenters found their way here.

We are doomed.

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Oct 12, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd go with the latter

Simply because some of the comments defy logic and make you want to ram your head through the computer screen…

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Oct 12, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

They go hand in hand

2 Defensive Scores are in the Karma Bag
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"

by WreckNTexan on Oct 12, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially when u have a bottle of bleach in those hands

- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 12, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus Harold Christ, dude...

Please let that schtick die. Seriously, it’s not funny in the least.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Oct 14, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup... I'm going with the latter...

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think a bi-curious fanbase would be more interesting.

"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."

Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake

by Xiane on Oct 12, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

to be fair

we’ve sucked for 5 years. So, I’m not really “bipolar,” I just go through a cycle: “Hope/optimism as the season starts, followed by frustration at losing games we should win, followed by apathy b/c we’re out of a playoff race, followed by anger that we suck this bad, and then the optimism starts all over again during draft season.” I’m pretty inconsistently consistent.

by wiseonekms on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bit off topic

But it has to do with Andre, so its more important than all this. But did anyone see the physical therapist/doctor chick on nfl live today talking about the injury?? It was some of the best news we coulda hoped for, apparently he had a tear at the base of the hammy and essentially all they do is cut off the frayed tendon and he’s back to full strength once his wound heals. She mentioned even tho he’s losing a tendon, that that part isn’t very critical at all moving forward

by texan80 on Oct 12, 2011 3:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

female. doctor

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Oct 12, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that AJ's kryptonite?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

/undercover brother'd

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was it Stephania Bell?

She has a bigger fivehead than P8N

by splanket on Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha I think so, she can have a 12head if she keeps droppin good news

by texan80 on Oct 12, 2011 4:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've never thought much of Holliday but

Could you imagine him finding one of the huge holes our O-Line has been making as a RB? One and done son! Ok ok…hopefully we’ll never find out what he looks like at RB because we’ll never have another injury at the position again.

by Its Gonna Happen on Oct 12, 2011 3:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Honestly, I think that the LBs would have problems SEEING him over the linemen...

He might get extra yards just off of being on top of them before they know he’s coming.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since he’s so small he can look like Sproles? Maybe opposing teams won’t see him getting through.

by DerrickDoll 7 on Oct 12, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's been working for Danny Woodhead for a long time

so why not?

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mason's numbers the last few years. (All while not being apart of pass oriented teams)

2005-06 Baltimore 16 1073yds 3tds

2006-07 Baltimore 16 750yds 2tds

2007-08 Baltimore 16 1087yds 5tds

2008-09 Baltimore 16 1037yds 5tds

2009-10 Baltimore 16 1028yds 7tds

2010-11 Baltimore 16 802yds 7tds

2011-12 NY Jets 5 13yds 0tds

Follow me on twitter: @Super_Stud2100

by Antho10000 on Oct 12, 2011 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

P. Manning > Brady > Rodgers > Brees (insert canyon) > Schaub (insert gap) > Flacco > Sanchez

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brady>Rodgers>Brees> Canyon >Schaub

Manning is floating somewhere down in the river going through that canyon

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

True....very true

Next year Manning will be a river guide

Texans 2011 Defense is evolving into an epic force to be reckoned with. I dub thee "Bayou Blitz" !!

by MeMongo on Oct 12, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mason's age

37.5

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh snap!

seriously? he does have a pretty sick story.

by wiseonekms on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

some linkage

REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.

by BRBUSAFTexan on Oct 13, 2011 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if anything, this Sunday's punt returns will be viewed a bit differently.

from “how is he going to suck this time?” to “Let’s see how this guy does in a real NFL game.”

by jkcheng122 on Oct 12, 2011 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

hope he doesnt do his fumble bee impersonation

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Oct 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he doesn't do an over the shoulder catch at the 5 yard line

He’s already an improvement.

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Oct 12, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see Hester pull a Slaton on Monday night?

I think he stepped out at the 7 or 8, but it was still embarrassing.

by Nashmeister on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we trade for a new WR and sign a new punt return guy

What exactly is JJ’s value to the team now?

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Oct 12, 2011 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

twitter awesomeness

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Oct 12, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

limited and expiring

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Rick Smitth,

If we can’t trade Jacoby, for at least a large drink and a bag of peanuts, could we just pretend he isn’t on the team anymore?

Sincerely,

Jacoby’s Mom and everyone else in his section.

by TexansAnonymous on Oct 12, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

he will have a great game this weekend

Of this i am sure

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Oct 12, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Because unlike the Raiders, the Ravens do have a secondary…

I really hope I eat my words and everything negative I’ve been saying about JJ after sunday

by TexansAnonymous on Oct 12, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sortof
the Ravens do have a secondary…Safeties

- questionable CBs though

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

safeties?

They have one safety. Their starting strong safety will be Benard Pollard on Sunday. I suggest all fantasy players start Owen Daniels and Joel Dreessen with complete confidence.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

They get Jimmy Smith back

Who was playing well. Cary Williams is also playing well.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Smith himself is saying he's probably doubtful for this game

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

the Ravens do have a secondary…

As long as they are playing Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Oct 12, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

lulz

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

should I put my testicles on a plate NOW, or wait it out

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Oct 12, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasn't that "in the dog bowl?"

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Oct 12, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please... some of us have to eat there...

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Says the one who licks his own testicles

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Operative phrase...
“…his own…”

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Oct 12, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

lulz

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cant imagine being happier about eating my words

than if JJ showed up and wrecked shop. Will it happen? No. Could it happen? Maybe.

by Texan5513 on Oct 12, 2011 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

whoa. when did peter king become a member of brb.

- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 12, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It could happen

just like my chances of winning the jackpot in the lotto tonight.

by Ivan A on Oct 12, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I AM STOKED!!!!!

Pressure will burst a pipe…. this was a great day…. The Texans FO killed two birds with one stone… by adding Holiday and Mason they are putting pressure on Jones on both return and reciever work….I am hoping that Mason can be that pressure reliever for Dre and Holiday does get to do some back work also….I feel that the Jets made a boo boo, Mason although old has some great catches in him left and if they use Trinton out of the backfiled on screens and such…. watch out…I could even see him taking an occasional pitch. However we also better take a look at Schaub….. could be a rotator cuff and we may not make it with Matty “Hottub” Lienart…

Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!

by TEXSON on Oct 12, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

should that be more like kill 1 bird with 2 stones?

Acquiring two to compensate for the deficiencies of one.

by jkcheng122 on Oct 12, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I probably have more faith in T.J. Yates than I do in Leinart

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

why?

Leinart played well this preseason. you’re racist against lefties!

by Toolshed1 on Oct 12, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

How can one be racist against lefties?

I didn’t know that lefties were considered their own race now. Besides, I believe in Tebow more than I believe in Leinart (lefty vs lefty)

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tebow

lulz

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon, remember this one


How could you not want to follow this guy??

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

super hammy

and yet awesome

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 12, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

"The Promise"

Give me a break.

/eye roll

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

They won a national championship after that promise. That's leadership

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's not the speech that I hate

It’s the exploitation of it. A fucking plaque….seriously?

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 12, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

no its not

its a broken college postseason system.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I know that, but he still mananged to win within the confines of a broken system

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

gay...

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Oct 12, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the leadership department & as an athlete, far better than Schaub

But as a QB, not even close

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

“But as a QB, not even close”

This is the only thing that matters. Let the cheerleaders lead cheers.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 13, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

iono

he’s young. I can’t say he’s better than Schaub, that’s not fair to Schaub’s body of work. I will say that Tebow is a very young and exciting player to watch, and he’s easy to root for. Very humble, down to earth, and he has this passion about him that is very fun and refreshing. I think it’s obvious right now, Schaub is a better overall QB than Tebow.

But in the ‘leadership/athlete’ department, Tebow sure has an edge.

by wiseonekms on Oct 13, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

He hasn’t been a leader of anything in the NFL yet. And it may be eazsy to root for him for some people, but I personally don’t like when a player is shoved down my throat by the media so I tend to root against them.

Take the case of Vince Young and Reggie Bush for instance. Personally I didn’t have anything against either player in college, but once they were over hyped in the media and I was forced to hear constantly how great they were I quickly formed a negative opinion of both.

That’s just me though. I believe a player has to earn their hype, and so far Tebow hasn’t proven anything in the pros.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 14, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt bro.

I actually def agree with you here. That’s how I felt about Lebron. Tebow and Cam are a bit different, b/c they were national championship Heisman winning guys in college. Bush was too, but he had to prove any nfl capability, (I guess, you’re saying Tebow does too.)

I’m strictly talking about game. I just find Tebow and Cam super duper exciting. I think they are really fun to watch. I’m only speaking on that stand point. They are easy to root for, b/c they seem like nice guys who are electric on the field.

by wiseonekms on Oct 14, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily, but he does know how to get guys to follow him & his example

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If gingers are a race.

So are lefties.

"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."

Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake

by Xiane on Oct 12, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gingers are usually Irish, so there's an explanation

However, lefties can be from any race

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 12, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

You obviously haven't figured out how I work

I’m able to blend logic & sarcasm quite seamlessly, so while my logic can be undeniable, you have to take into consideration that I might be using my logic just to fuck with you

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

lul

Checkdown Leinart.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like some good moves and some necessary ones

At least they are making moves to continually improve the team.

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Shaub

Why is no one pointing the finger at Shaub?

by texans will win on Oct 12, 2011 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe...just maybe...

The Texans should not allow qb’s or any other player to wear the number 8….I’m not saying retire it…just pretend like it doesn’t exist

by TexansAnonymous on Oct 12, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one?

A lot have pointed a finger at teh Schaub

He had a awful game – I don’t know anyone who didn’t think that

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dare we say?

Does he not seem the same since Baby Shanny is gone?

by texans will win on Oct 12, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Now

Grossman seems to be the man

by texans will win on Oct 12, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that.

I think he had an awful interception though.

by WhiskeyR on Oct 12, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Awful is a bit of an exaggeration

But he did not have a good game by any means

Let's all panic, slit our wrists , fire the coach, fire the quarterback BECAUSE OMG WE LOST A GAME!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!

by Barryfromtexas on Oct 12, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

47% completion rate

is.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Oct 13, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Waving a receiver and trading for a new one plus bringing one up from PS only means

they will be running the heck out of the ball this week… Foster, Tate & Ward are healthy enough… but 2 receivers that don’t know the playbook and you have Bryant Johnson who’s still learning the playbook AND Andre Johnson is out…

by MghtyPtrck on Oct 12, 2011 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

All of the injurys

seem to be muscle or tendon related. Is there stretching problem?

by texans will win on Oct 12, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the trainers

fire them

"We're goin with what we got"

by silentassassin on Oct 12, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously, though.

I would look into the conditioning coach. Cause it is starting to get ugly…

by Kiratomi on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perfunctory reply

blaming everything on the lockout.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think its worth looking into as well

We have some strange injuries to players who were pretty much untouched (’Dre, Mario) and enough hamstrings for the entire league. These are a lot different than contact injuries.

by WhiskeyR on Oct 13, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's league wide

Has nothing to do with our conditioning coach.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 13, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

He probably doesn't since I told you that

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 13, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I know…it was worth a shot.

by wiseonekms on Oct 13, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

I got it. Night Owl wasn’t giving you an opportunity so you took the first available.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because I say a lot of smart things, so it's hard to pinpoint just one of them

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 14, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

lolage.

btw, do you guys get together and watch the game together? It sounds like many of you are friends, I’m just curious.

by wiseonekms on Oct 14, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, I'm usually stuck at work during the games

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Oct 15, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could

I live in Tyler and have a new born baby, so it’s not really possible for me to travel down on game days. I just watch from my couch, in front of the best Samsung 55" LED in the world.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Oct 16, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

so he's slowing eating a ham sandwich?

who cares?

"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22

by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 12, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rick....

Any luck getting an 8th rounder for Jacoby?

by TexansAnonymous on Oct 12, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

...or perhaps a stick of gum?

… preferably new, but that’s not a deal-breaker.

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by DilloTex on Oct 13, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

...Mason has always been one of my favorite s.

Was seriously jealous of his success with the Ravens after leaving the BESF’s. Glad Rick pulled the trigger on this one.

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Oct 12, 2011 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I didnt read the other comments above, but..

I think Trinton Holliday could be on for Punt Returns. Lets Face it. Aside from that 1 TD against the colts, Jacoby Jones hasn’t done anything. After catching the ball, he stands still for at least a few seconds before running what seems like 50 yards for no gain. I can’t stand him on the field. He doesn’t seem like he has great body control either. He’s not the type of player who can make the type of catch that Kevin Walter made laid out. I like this trade and hope we are just phasing out Jacoby Jones by replacing him both in PR and WR.

by steelblue on Oct 12, 2011 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

//semi-nutt'd

"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22

by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 12, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol yep

and who/what is a “Trinton”?

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trinton Sturdivant

born January 18, 1989 is an American football offensive tackle. He is currently entering his redshirt sophomore year at the University of Georgia.

by Bobbythegreat on Oct 13, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah, I learn something every day lol

Thank God we got him replacing JJ as PR.

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Oct 13, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, are we planning to let him hang out on two or three days a week in Tennessee?

Apparently the Jets did this. They also claim he didn’t learn the playbook. So we’ll see. But positive! He’s got a lot left in the tank.

I do think he’s capable of hanging onto passes that hit him in the hands. I think he’ll be able to find space in the end zone. At least I hope so.

Anyway, it’s a 7th rd pick, and not all that much salary. I wonder what the condition is? I imagine its PT or productivity. If we encourage to fly to Tennessee on Monday and not come back I imagine we’re not sending a pick.

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by Xiane on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 PM CDT reply actions  

It could be like one of those conditional picks in basketball

When a team’s dumping a player along with cash to cover his salary they usually get the ubiquitous “protected second rounder” that is only delivered if it falls between 59-60 or something ridiculous like that. I don’t know as much about football trades (well, mostly because there are fewer of them), so I don’t know if an arrangement like that is plausible.

by Patrick Harrel on Oct 13, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure

We set an agreement that if he plays X snaps or gains Y yards, then they get the 7th rounder. If he does jack shit, we take on his salary but jets get no pick. Then there’s conditionals like Favre to the Jets where if he played increasing amount of snaps, the round of the pick the Pack got would increase. But the Mason trade is case 1 as far as i know.

by splanket on Oct 13, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Pancakes can expect dick pics from Derrick any day now??

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Oct 14, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

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