Fisking Kubiak's Press Conference: Speaking Without Communicating
Last weekend I went to the Disney Food and Wine festival at Epcot with my family. They set up a bunch of tents that represent different countries and for a few bucks, you can buy some small plates of food from each country along with some wine (or beer -- there's actually a ton of beer).
This has become a bit of a family tradition for us as we love both food and wine (and beer). Our approach is to skip lunch and dinner and pretty much spend the day sharing the various dishes while we slowly, but steadily, get blindingly drunk.
This year, however, was a bit different. An unnamed tropical wave passed through central Florida and dumped over 10 inches of rain. As you can imagine, this put quite the damper on the festivities. The majority of our group, decided to call it a day around 1:00, leaving my dad and I as the only ones to say, "Screw it, I don't care if it's raining, I want to drink."
After everyone left, my dad and I had a great time and were able to successfully continue the tradition of getting wasted at Disney. As the night progressed we joked that the two of us were better suited to handle the horrible conditions since we've both done some mentally grueling activities, such as mountain climbing, where you have to persevere in difficult conditions in order to achieve a goal (and seeing as this involved beer and talking animals, it was far easier).
Of course, the more likely explanation is that as a Texans fan, being miserable and looking for booze is just part of the normal weekend routine.
After three painful losses in the past four weeks, those looking for answers from the Texans' head coach were left with nothing but more questions. According to standard operating procedure, Kubiak successfully navigated a minefield of softball questions without providing even the slightest insight. So let's fisk the crap out of it.
Here's hoping my boss doesn't notice if I slip a little liquor into my coffee.
(on CB Jason Allen playing in the game) "I don’t know how many plays he played. I don’t know, I’ll have to go back and look at the tape."
Well, Gary, I think you're going to have a hard time finding him on the tape, because as best as I can tell, he didn't play. It's hard to find definitive data on this, but even if he did make it in for a few plays here or there, it wasn't enough. Look, I'm never going to be a Jason Allen defender, and I definitely realize that choosing between Allen and Kareem Jackson is kind of like choosing between having your house broken into or getting into a car accident, but going 100% with Kareem just doesn't make sense. Unless you took the over on Joe Flacco's passing yards.
(on the running game the past two weeks) "We haven’t run the ball well the past two weeks, you are right. Twenty five carries for 90-something yards, I think. This team is a tough team to run on, but you’ve just got to keep pounding at them, and we did. I think we kept battling, had ourselves some good [field] position as a team. A 19-14 football game early in the fourth quarter, we’re down there on the 40-yard line, third-and-8, make a play, we knew it was going to be that kind of play, we didn’t make it, and they started making theirs, but you are right, we’re not running the ball well right now."
There's our first "battling". I've also noticed in Kubiak's answers that when he has no idea what to say, he just changes the topic. I mean, what does the play in the fourth quarter have to do with running the ball? It seems the play he was referring to was on 3rd and 9 from the 38, but that was an incomplete pass to Foster, i.e. not a running play.
I'm going to try this with my wife in the future.
Her: "Why didn't you take the trash out?"
Me: "Yeah, I haven't taken it out, but I've been doing a great job on the yard plus with the current state of the nation, global warming, and the continuing presence of Bravo, I'm concerned about the type of world our daughter is going to grow up in."
/drinks more beer.
(on how difficult passing third downs were) "We had it under control, I thought, for the most part, until we got down to where we had to start throwing the ball. I thought we did a good job with our third downs in the first half, mixing it up in what we were doing, making it manageable, and we were able to protect Matt [Schaub]. But you’re right, you get down more than a touchdown to this football team, and they know you have to throw, you’re going to have a hard time holding up."
Manageable third downs in the first half? Here are the third down "to go" distances for the Texans in the first half: 8, 7, 15, 10, 6, 4, 5, 7, 12, 7. If we draw the line in the sand for "manageable" at less than 5, that means one was manageable. That you converted a decent number doesn't mean you were in good position.
Kubiak probably also feels that the economy is manageable.
(on not making plays) "I don’t have the plays in front of me. I know we dropped some balls that could have been first downs. Like I said, we were right there in the game where we wanted to be at 19-14, on the road, against this team. I mean, that’s a pretty good position to be in. We didn’t make the plays, and they did, we dropped the ball on offense and didn’t make the plays, and they come up, make big plays and move down the field. We all had our part in it, and we had our opportunities as a football team."
So trailing away from home in the fourth quarter against one of the best teams in the league is "where [you] wanted to be?" Apparently, in the pregame meetings, he walked up to the whiteboard and wrote the following:
Keys to the game:
1) Be trailing by five in the fourth quarter.
2) ????
3) Win!
(on going for it on fourth-and-1 early) "Really, to me, we just have to line up and make a yard. The way we’ve been running the ball, last week and then this week, I’m disappointed in it, and you’re not going to go very far in this league if you can’t line up and make a yard. I don’t care how many people they have on the line of scrimmage. We will stay aggressive, I expect us to stay on the field right there, line up and be able to move the chains, and we didn’t do it, so give them credit."
I actually liked this call, but then again, I'm the type of guy who hates kicking the field goal on fourth and short deep in the opponent's territory. Sure we got screwed on the facemask non-call, but then the Texans got the ball right back, before fumbling into the endzone for a touchdown. I'd fill you in on what I said during this stretch, but then I'd have to ban myself.
(on the Ravens’ ability to run the ball late in the game) "They made some big plays, and they made a couple big plays on the boot. That kind of put the game away. We had wasted some timeouts with some issues. That hurt us that we didn’t have those timeouts at the end. [Ray Rice] ended up running for 100 yards, but a lot of the damage was done late, when they were putting us away there."
In my mind, not being able to stop the run or the pass while also being unable to run or pass yourself were much bigger factors than not having the timeouts. I think Kubiak might be one of those guys who's unable to prioritize the impact of different items. He probably doesn't figure out what he's going to wear for the day until he settles on the appropriate socks.
(on timeout issues) "We had a personnel issue one time and a formation issue. There’s no excuses, you can’t waste timeouts on stuff like that."
Agreed. The big question is whether or not you'll do something about it other than say, "We shouldn't do that." When I was a kid, my parents would follow that up with an ass whoopin'. Might want to consider that.
(on being aggressive late in the second quarter) "We were going, but we got sacked. We had third-and-13, I think, and we sure as heck don’t want to give them the ball. The fact that they did not use their timeout there, I’m going to use all the clock, hopefully get out of there, where we were because of the situation we had, and we did. We got the ball back with the turnover, and we got back to midfield, doing what I thought was smart there."
My daughter will be ten months old this week. To date, we have successfully taught her to wave goodbye and to use sign language for "more" when she's still hungry. She is now a better communicator than Gary Kubiak.
(on the two big Ravens pass plays in the third quarter) "Yeah, they really did. They made some great throws. They went up and got a couple of deep balls on us. The deep balls, especially in the second half, I think [Joe Flacco] threw for over 300 yards. We gave up some big plays. We were able to hold them to some field goals. That was the positive thing, but we did give up some big plays."
If I were an independent film maker, I would make the following short movie (all in black and white, of course).
Fade in
Shot of flower in a field
Reporter: "Can you talk about the big plays that they made on you?"
Shot of sun
Kubiak: "They sure did."
Closeup of a woman's eye with a single tear
Shot of dead flower
Fade out
Fin
(on replacing the big plays of WR
Andre Johnson ) "This team right here, you have to be able to battle them and go toe to toe. You’re not going to sit back there and hold the ball and let people get 30, 40, or 50 yards down the field. You’ve got to understand what you’re going against. I like the way we approached it. I liked the way we were staying on schedule. I liked the type of game we were in. But I’ll just go back to the fact that when it counted most, with about 10 minutes left in the game, with a 19-14 game, we quit making plays, and they started making plays. Unless I see the film and see something different, that’s the way I see it as of right now."
The bolded section of this response is exactly what is said when you pull the string on the Gary Kubiak talking doll.
(on what the lack of big plays means) "I don’t know. It means we have to make them. I’ve got to make calls, coaches have to do a better job, players have got to make the plays.
We’ve got a good football team, but they don’t give you a damn thing in this league. You’ve got to line up and make big plays to win. When crunch time came in, they made them, we didn’t."
If you pull the string a second time, you hear the bolded part of this response.
Pull one more time and it talks about how he believes in you.
The doll is available for $19.95 at Wal-Mart, but no returns are accepted for the first six years after purchase.
(on WR Jacoby Jones responding this week) "I told you all last week, I didn’t think he played bad last week. I don’t know where that comes from. He ran some good routes, we just didn’t get him the ball last week. You never know where the ball is going in this league. You throw according to coverage, you don’t just throw to people. He played the way I thought he would."
There's at least a 35% chance that when Kubiak watched film of Jacoby Jones last week, he was actually watching an old episode of "Knight Rider."
(on the pass rush without
Mario Williams ) "I’ll have to go back and look at it. I thought we got some pressure on [Joe Flacco] but the kid made some great plays, golly. The one play he made going down. I’m really impressed how far he’s come as a player, so you’ve got to give him a lot of credit. He threw a lot of big balls on his back foot, with us in his face. I thought he played really well in the game."
Golly, indeed.
(on what he thought of DE Tim Jamison) "Our team has kind of been that way, you know. A lot of guys are getting opportunities through some of the nicks, and guys are stepping up. Timmy had a good camp. He’s continued to play well, so it doesn’t surprise me."
After hearing Kubiak's comments, Jamison called his parents and asked if he can move back in, knowing that he won't see the field again this season.
(on DE Antonio Smith’s two personal fouls in the first half) "I don’t know, we have to go see. But you have to keep your poise right there. I think we had them stopped if you don’t do that. But you’ve got to keep your poise, and he knows that."
That should take care of it.
(on SS
Dominique Barber ’s injury) "I don’t really know, I didn’t have a chance to talk to the trainers about it."
"I mean, I still don't know what's wrong with Andre and you want me to talk about a backup safety?"
So there you go. I've really got nothing else to say.
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I seem to be alone on this
but I don’t think Kareem is really that much worse then Allen, and with Allen there is really no hope of him suddenly becoming good. Kareem is in his second year so it is much more likely that he improves.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I'm fine with them not doing the asinine "split snaps" thing
I just think they should give the snaps to the player that is playing best.
That player is not Kareem Jackson.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 17, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not all warm and fuzzy with Jason Allen in there...
… but there just seems to be less arm-flailing/aimless wing-flapping going on. It’s one thing to get beaten… It’s another thing to look like that guy in his underwear on “In Living Color” jumping up in the air screaming “Look what I can do!!!”
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Two points on this:
1. Agreed that Kareem isn’t much worse than Allen, but that is a poor reason for giving him full playing time while keeping Allen on the bench. Especially considering Kareem’s knee injury, Allen should have gotten more playing time. Would it have made a difference? Probably not.
2. We’re starting to reach that point in Kareem’s career where we should expect to see the occasional good play. Yes, there will still be growing pains, but all I’m asking for is a glimmer of hope. Just a small one.
I thought he made one during the game.
And then there was a holding penalty.
by anthonymgarcia on Oct 17, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Kareem is usually so far off of the receiver
that if the official sees him make a play it’s an easy flag.
by The Arian Race on Oct 17, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Allen was in on at least one play
What was confusing is he and Kareem were both on the field on the same play.
I am now drinking the koolaid. Texans are making their turn for the best. Screw pessimism!
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 17, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
scary scary thougt...
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 17, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
One problem with the improvement scenario
Very rarely will a player’s deep speed ever get better. That being said, that’s the only thing Allen has going for him over Kareem. On two similar plays in previous games, Allen has managed to stay ahead of his man and intercept the ball as a result. Kareem is always trailing his man and gives up a huge reception. Other than that they both suck, so if I have to choose I’ll take the one that keeps his man in front of him and prevents the game changing deep plays.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I don't think Allen is any faster than Kareem
He just knows how to put himself in a better position to make a play on the ball. Now if he can just stop giving WRs that huge cushion…….
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
If I were an independent film maker, I would make the following short movie (all in black and white of course).
Kickstarter that shit.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
That Was My Favorite Part
Loved it.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
That's not in my skillset
but I’ve provided a detailed enough script for anyone that might want to take the task.
And by “detailed enough” I mean as much detail as I’m willing to give.
Off topic...
…but the Rams just got Brandon Lloyd for a 6th round draft choice.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
"Down to clown with some other chick's lady bits" ~ MDC
Allen> Jackson
Allen losses the under routes battle, while Jackson losses the Getting beat over the top battle.
2 Defensive Scores are in the Karma Bag
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"
Now you're sounding like Kubiak.... "battle.... battle..."
That being said, I really haven’t seen either player win any battles on a consistent basis.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Fixed:
Allen losses the under routes battle, while Jackson losses the Getting beat over the top battle as well as the under routes battle (see: Moore, Lance).
Blind fandom is all I got left.
"Down to clown with some other chick's lady bits" ~ MDC
by Lone Spot on Oct 17, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Thank you
Yours was much better
2 Defensive Scores are in the Karma Bag
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"
and....Alan Jackson > Allen/Jackson
“Pyramid of cans in a pale moon light….never knew how much that muddy river meant to me”
Awesome job Vega. First time I’ve laughed all week. Can you just picture a broadcast booth with Kubiak, Gruden and Madden working a game together?
Gruden: “That guy is a football player.”
Kubiak: “He’s battling.”
Madden: “There’s a helmet on the field. It’s always good when there’s not a head in that thing.”
Gruden: “This guy knows how to hit that A gap.”
Kubiak: “These guys battling to stay in it. It’s a physical football game and that’s the NFL.”
Madden: “They are were in it until they were no longer in it, you know, ahem…because that guy right there (draws a cricle) pushed that guy (another circle)…and and and and then that guy (another circle with a line) ran right through and that’s good football.”
by MeMongo on Oct 17, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
What I remember
Madden: "They are were in it until they were no longer in it, you know, ahem…because that guy right there (draws a cricle) pushed that guy (another circle)…and and and and then that guy (another circle with a line) Boom! ran right through and that’s good football."
I am now drinking the koolaid. Texans are making their turn for the best. Screw pessimism!
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 17, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I miss Madden...
…after weeks of the dribbling Dans… Fouts and Deerdork.
Seriously, is there NO ONE at the networks that can coach these guys to not sound like home town announcers for whoever is playing the Texans that week? Is there not a producer somewhere in TV Land that can whisper in their ears “Psssst… You might want to pull the corn-cob out of your ass and say something NICE about the OTHER team about every twelfth comment in order to preserve some semblance of impartiality…”
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
by DilloTex on Oct 17, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I never thought I'd miss Madden so much
I used to think he dumbed it down way too much but now I realize how entertaining he was.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I used to think Madden was a boob, but his work on MNF with Al Michaels was great stuff.
I seriously miss him now.
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which reminds me, I need to get to Vegas and see Frank Caliendo
He does a great Madden!
Looks like we are planning our SuperBowl party there again. Last year’s was a riot!
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He does an excellent Madden impersonation on Blitz: The League 2
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Gruden looks like he's one cheeseburger away from
looking like Madden. That MNF booth is making him soft.
Right
And if I have to choose, gimme the one that doesn’t give up the bombs.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
This is so full of win:
So trailing away from home in the fourth quarter against one of the best teams in the league is “where [you] wanted to be?” Apparently, in the pregame meetings, he walked up to the whiteboard and wrote the following:
Keys to the game:
1) Be trailing by five in the fourth quarter
2) ????
3) Win
Blind fandom is all I got left.
"Down to clown with some other chick's lady bits" ~ MDC
by Lone Spot on Oct 17, 2011 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
And this
I’m going to try this with my wife in the future.
Her: “Why didn’t you take the trash out?”
Me: “Yeah, I haven’t taken it out, but I’ve been doing a great job on the yard plus with the current state of the nation, global warming, and the continuing presence of Bravo, I’m concerned about the type of world our daughter is going to grow up in.”
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
the fact that i was listening to the house of the rising sun
went well with your independent film maker idea.
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
Didn't anyone else see Torrey Smith drop that deep pass?(no call)
They didn’t show many replays, but I wasn’t sure if it was my inner homer making me hallucinate.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Oct 17, 2011 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That was the reason the Ravens ran a play so quickly after that "catch"
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Looked like possession to me.
I thought he took three or four steps after he hauled it in.
Yeah, but he was going to the ground and didn't maintain possession.
I would have been interested to see it challenged.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
"Down to clown with some other chick's lady bits" ~ MDC
I saw it once on the replay
and was like….wait a minute, he has to maintain possession all the way through. Then I confirmed it on DVR this morning. It’s cool, it wasn’t a big play or anything.
Memo to Gary Kubiak: I will come and act as replay official in the booth. You will pay me in Shiner Bock and access to the cheerleaders hot tub. Thank you.
One of the biggest problems with this team is
That they just do not have the fucking balls to win on the road against a good team. Seriously name the last good team we beat on the road?
by TheDream34 on Oct 17, 2011 2:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
bengals

"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Oct 17, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
whats trollish about that?
they went to the playoffs. They where a good team.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
the last 2 games against the jets
You really just kind lose any “respect” you had for them as a team. It was one thing to throw away the last game of the season to not give anything away or whatever. But then to get their ass handed to them again just made them look like fools.
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Oct 17, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, let's see
This year, we’ve only beaten the Dolphins on the road.
Last year, we beat Oakland and Washington.
Really?! 2 fucking road wins?!
The year before we beat Miami, St. Louis, Buffalo, Cincinnati, and Tennessee. So, silentassassin might be right.
Shit.
My recollection was Green Bay in '09...
However when you say good, do you mean good now or then?
Hahaha!
Pulls kubiak doll draw string “He’s a helluva football player.He’s battlin.”
*Pulls kubiak doll draw string “We should of fought harder. We were where we needed to be”
*Pulls kubiak doll draw string “its on me”
*Pulls kubiak doll draw string “its on me”
*Pulls kubiak doll draw string “That’s on me too”
*Pulls kubiak doll draw string “Its on me”
“DADDYYYYYYY MY KUBIAK DOLL IS BROKENNNN!!!!!”
“Whats wrong with it son?
“IT KEEPS SAYING ITS ON ME ITS ON ME!!!”
“(Sighhhhh) Its Not broken son. "
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 17, 2011 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Not that hard to fisk Kubiak
he doesn’t throw players under the bus – even if he should.
He is a really good boss – stands up for his guys in public – but tears them a new one behind closed doors. That is one thing I actually admire about him.
I am now drinking the koolaid. Texans are making their turn for the best. Screw pessimism!
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 17, 2011 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Agreed...
…It’s not entertaining, but it’s also not Harbaugh. And to answer the inevitable questions about it, yes, I’d rather have Kubiak and all that goes with it than Harbaugh and a winning record.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
WTF?
I would take Lady GaGa over Kubiak if it meant a winning record. Harbaugh’s record is damn sure better than Kubiaks, Jim or John.
You're not alone...
There were a lot of fans that made the transition seamlessly from the Landry Cowboy years to the Jerry Jones Cowboy years, because he promised (and delivered) them SuperBowls. That is a nice level of flexibility to have.
I was raised in a different time when more folks believed that how a game was won was as important as whether it was won or not. It’s obvious that is anachronistic thinking. We’ll agree to disagree on this one.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Huh?
Granted I was 11 or 12 when that happened, but I don’t recall any love for the J-birds during those first couple of years. We stayed with the team, but hated the owner and the coach. (However, the coach eventually got a pass because he did deliver the Super Bowls. I still don’t know anyone who likes Jerruh.)
FWIW, I generally agree with you here. I don’t want a one hit wonder who makes a splash in the playoffs and then collapses the next season or two. This is actually one of the things that was so good about Jimmy Johnson, he built a team so good that even Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl with them.
Unfortunately, my doubts about Kubiak are starting earlier and earlier in the season. The only real problem I have is I do not want a full house cleaning. I don’t think we are so far away from greatness that we have to start over entirely, and almost any new head coach is likely to scrap the offense, and possibly this defense which as well.
I keep coming back to this. Can Dennison run the offense? If he can’t, why is he there? Kubiak needs to decide if he (Kubiak) wants to be the OC or the HC.
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Oct 18, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
JF... read my comment again...
…and tell me where it isn’t in alignment with your comment.
“…a lot of fans…” =/= “…all Cowboy fans…”
And referring to that dark day… I was about 30 and driving out of Dallas headed for LA of all places (in a grey drizzling rain as I remember it, but that could have just been my mood) for a contract gig. It was like there had been a death in the family. I was incredibly disappointed and increasingly so as the details of how the firing were leaked. That whole mess spawned a loathing of Jerruh & everything post-Landry-Cowboy-related that has lasted for over 20 years now.
Good times… Good times…
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I only had one issue, really, and perhaps I simply read you differently that you intended.
Basically, my memory was people loving the team but hating the owner and new coach (really, is that different than Houstonians with the Oilers and Beelzebud?)
The rest of my comment was basically agreeing with you. I should have chosen a different subject line.
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It comes from top down.
Only in Houston is Gary Kubiak still employed as a head football coach. And I like the guy. Why do I find myself more and more starting converstaions about the texans with the caveat “Look, Ive always liked Kubiak, but”…..
Not part of the doll
I think we are missing some important stuff. this doesn’t sound like the patient Kubiak:
“But I’ll just go back to the fact that when it counted most, with about 10 minutes left in the game, with a 19-14 game, we quit making plays, and they started making plays..”
“…but they don’t give you a damn thing in this league. You’ve got to line up and make big plays to win. When crunch time came in, they made them, we didn’t.”
“…you’re not going to go very far in this league if you can’t line up and make a yard. I don’t care how many people they have on the line of scrimmage. We will stay aggressive, I expect us to stay on the field right there, line up and be able to move the chains, and we didn’t do it…”
And Arian
"I played terrible. I didn’t play a good game, it was obvious. That will never happen again. I played a bad game. It doesn’t matter what the variables are; I played a bad game. As a football player, I didn’t bring my A-game."
You heard it here first: We will blow Tennessee out of the stadium this weekend. Arian runs for 150 yards.
I remain a fan of the Vreekster, however...
…he’s an asshole for fantasizing “that will never happen again…” If it was something that he could control then why didn’t he exert that control at half-time? What is going to happen NOW that he couldn’t do at half-time? You drop one easy one? Okay… be pissed about that and then CONCENTRATE the next time the ball comes to you.
Foster and Vickers dropping those balls because they didn’t concentrate REALLY pisses me off. That is just poor execution.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Exactly
The dropped passes pissed me off too. If we give Jacoby grief we have to give Arian grief.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
An asshole? No, I don't think so.
Him saying it will never happen again just means that he recognizes the fact that he played poorly and is determined that he doesn’t repeat it. I don’t see how that makes him an asshole.
Perfect use of "The Promise"
rec’d
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
And I'm glad he admitted it
I was disappointed with his effort, lack of concentration, or whatever was bothering him. I can understand getting stuffed by a good defense two weeks in a row, but not dropping easy passes.
“Can he play better? You bet he can, and he’ll be the first to tell you that.”
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I think Foster was in the mindset that he needed to up his game to pick up slack from AJ being out, causing him to overthink instead of reacting. I think he’ll be a beast against the Titans.
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I kinda think it was more that his lack of run production was getting in his head
causing him to over think instead of reacting.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Texans PR is a well oiled machine.
Kubiak never answers a question any other way than what you’d expect. He’d make a great politician.
Rick Smith, Matt Schaub and Eric Winston all also sound exactly like Kubiak every time they field a question.
That doesn’t bother me any. I think they’re smart for giving out no useful information, not trash talking other teams and not singling out players.
by WhiskeyR on Oct 17, 2011 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
Our punt returners are great
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Oct 17, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed Whiskey.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Winston is a character, shows a lot more personality. I agree with that.
But ask him something specific, like try to get him to call out the defense last year, and you get the exact same thing you get from Kubiak and Schaub. Which I have no problem with, again. Its just an observation that they are smart when it comes to PR.
I'm ok with this
The best way to split a team is offense vs. defense. One of the better jobs Kubiak did last year was kept all those guys together. It’s hokie, but it’s important and a lot harder than it seems. I’m sure there was some plenty of shit talked behind closed doors, but in public they were on the same page.
Ture
I guess he does tow the company line but at least he’s entertaining about it. You can tell he’s got a future in broadcasting if he choosing to go that route when he’s done playing
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Great stuff.
…..my dad and I as the only ones to say, “Screw it, I don’t care if it’s raining, I want to drink.”
Sound like my kind of guys.
Alcohol is necessary so that a man can have a good opinion of himself, undisturbed by the facts.
Awesome! A few of us did the same thing down in the Florida Keys
We were beachside eating some stone crab claws and drinking rum and the rain started pounding on us on the patio….we just sat there and ate and drank and loved it all.
smh
get his ass outa here.. we need a new young fiery coach the team will respond to and play for
im so sick of this it isnt funny
Houston errthang.. first off, get rid of pubes.. Rockets-Texans-Dynamo & Longhorn fan.. an Astros fan these days is an oxymoron
YA!
we need a guy that isnt afraid to violate a man's personal bubble!
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 17, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Off topic, but mildly related to a post above
Would you be interested in Eddie Royal to play WR2/3 for a 5th or later pick? I think I would.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
No thanks
I’ll be satisfied with Johnson, Walter, and Mason. That’s two great possession receivers and a demi-god.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Yeah
I think Kevin Walter is under-rated, but I would like to have more of a deep threat in his position… maybe they draft someone this year for AJ to groom.
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Dwight Jones from UNC
Remember that name
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
jeff fuller is my guy.
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 18, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
No.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 17, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Out of curiosity Rivers, why not?
I felt like he started amazingly well (I remember a game against the Raiders that he butchered their secondary), and became miserably underused. He is fast, and effective returner, and can catch pretty well if my memory serves.
I just think he would be an excellent addition in exchange for a pick who 90% won’t even make the team.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
Meant to say "90% of the time"
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
and if they do sign him...
they could trade Jacoby Jones for some Mighty Deer Lick! YAY!!!
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't paid attention to Royal this year
but I just want to comment on your reasoning. I agree that its worth getting someone for a late round pick, especially considering you’re getting an immediate contributor instead of just a potential contributor unlikely to even make the team.. I think we did good with Mason, but it could also be a slippery slope if we did that too much.
I was forgetting the pick given for Mason
and am not an advocate of trading away your future for immediate contributors. However, if we are going to address the receiving corps in the next offseason, and if Andre is not fully recovered from his procedure, then I think a 5,6 or 7 for a 25 year old receiver with some speed is not a poor decision.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
Because there are 20 Eddie Royals waiting on the waiver wire.
The 2008 Eddie Royal is not coming back.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 18, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Well with Deer Season approaching....probably not much more than a crate of this (and I'd take it!)

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by MeMongo on Oct 17, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Crate??? I'm thinking "eaches"... rec'd
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
You know your coach is full of shit when he says "golly" in any post game interview
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