Matt Schaub To Have "Precautionary" MRI On Hip
by Tim on Oct 17, 2011 4:08 PM CDT
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PrintAwesome. I know injuries are a part of the NFL. Still, between this, Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Derrick Ward, Andre Johnson, Rashad Butler, Mario Williams, and whoever else I'm forgetting, the dings are really starting to pile up, and we haven't even hit the midpoint of the 2011 regular season yet.
No need to freak out after hearing this particular piece of news, of course, but trying to downplay the notion of the most indispensable Texan getting an MRI by labeling it as "precautionary" doesn't exactly make the concern disappear. Matt Schaub has taken a beating the last couple of weeks.
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Sure hope Matty-Ice has been studying that playbook.
The Schaub-haters may get a taste of what life without #8 is really like.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
That's exactly what came to my mind.
Schuab’s really impressed me with his toughness this year, though. That Ngata helmet to the sternum and the Seymour knee shot were both brutal.
I told some of my friends who are always bashing Schaub
That I wished they could see what the team would be like without him since they hate him so much. Damn it, I didn’t REALLY want it to happen though.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
I KNEW HE WAS HURT!!!
THERE WAS NO WAY HE IS REGRESSING THAT QUICKLY!!!
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
MSW
Sims-Walker was just released…… think there is any chance in hell he ends up with us??
why the hell not?
go for it.
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 17, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously...
I don’t understand why the Texans are never in on any “big name” free agents or trades? Why wouldn’t they have gone for Brandon Lloyd?
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
LMAO
WE JUST SIGNED JOSEPH AND MANNING IN THE OFFSEASON. WTF.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
true
but think about who has been available in the past few seasons that they didn’t go for… you are right though… they made a few moves, but i guess I would like to see someone compliment AJ on the offense. That’s all.
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It might have something to do with him only having one good season in a 9 yr career
Ok, so he was decent back in ‘05 but since then he hadn’t done shit until last year. Mason at least has been a consistent contributor.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
well, that aspect is true, but...
I am just looking for someone who can pose as a threat enough to a defense that it pulls coverage off AJ. Lets face it, most decent defenses don’t have to worry about doubling anyone else on the team, cept maybe OD, and Johnson has double coverage a lot with a safety playing him deep.
I know most wouldn’t agree, but I was kinda hoping we would have gone after Randy Moss, because he pulls coverage rather or not he performs….
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I've said this a few times before but it bear repeating
I could see that if we ran a vertical passing game, but our offense isn’t built that way. Sure we run the occasion deep route off of play action, but our bread and butter plays are your typical West Coast, short to medium routes that keep us “on schedule”, as Kubiak and Schaub like to say. So the need for another deep field stretcher isn’t really a high priority. IMO what compliments Dre better are possession receivers. We need guys that run good routes and get open consistently, and when they do they need to catch the ball.
Walter is pretty good in that role, although he doesn’t get enough separation on a consistent basis. Jacoby? Well, he’s Jacoby. I personally like the Mason signing because that’s what he has excelled at his entire career. The guy gets open and he catches the ball well in traffic, and we saw how well he holds onto it when he takes a big hit.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
by Hydroshock on Oct 17, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
IMO what compliments Dre better are possession receivers. We need guys that run good routes and get open consistently, and when they do they need to catch the ball.
I personally like the Mason signing because that’s what he has excelled at his entire career.
I agree.
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I contradicted myself with that comment, but you make a good point there.
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 17, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
However Hydro... you were against another reciever this summer when you blasted me
I did talk about thespeed and separation issue but you said Jacko and KW were good enough… Change of heart? eh? You blasted me and even put up some little troll pictures at me….. I even mentioned Mason and you laughed… Well I guess that is goo on your face… cause now you’re lickin the plate.
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Yes, I've had a change of heart about Jacoby
It’s not the first time I’ve changed my mind about a subject and it won’t be the last. I think he has all the potential in the world but he can’t seem to overcome certain things like finishing routes and catching over the middle. He still makes the occasional spectacular catch like we saw Sunday, but too often he disappears in games.
As for blasting you, I’m sure it was less about the content of your remarks and more about the tone. But hey, congratulations on winning the internet. Enjoy your victory.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
by Hydroshock on Oct 18, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is there cake?
/cake wag
/hopeful look
/tapping paw
/cake wag 2
…branch top
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Thanks but I prefer this...
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I'm not sure if you're familiar with the sarcasm font...
Ex: VY Just. Winz. Gamez!
by Tailgate Andy on Oct 17, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
More like Vunce Just Winzz as a starter!!!
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 17, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that he actually contributed much to those wins
He had a good defense & financially deprived Chris Johnson to bail him out
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Texans
Have a good D and a Running game
2 Defensive Scores are in the Karma Bag
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"
by WreckNTexan on Oct 18, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
They may be waiting for a "big name" free agent
I am now drinking the koolaid. Texans are making their turn for the best. Screw pessimism!
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 17, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you can't stick with the Jags or Rams at WR
Your career is probably over.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Oct 17, 2011 6:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not that he'd lie to us, but...
NickScurfield Nick Scurfield
Schaub on his MRI: “Everything looks fine. Everything looks good. It’s just a standard procedure.”
MRI's aren't a standard procedure unless something is suspected to be broken
Just sayin
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Not broken: torn
MRIs are more for muscles, tendons, inflammation, and possibly ligaments (depends on the machine itself). If you want to see if something is broken, an x-ray is easier and faster. There’s several important ligaments at the hip joint, or there could be a microfracture, but it’s more likely to show up on an x-ray.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
No need to be sorry-your point was correct
Just another example of misjudging tone and meaning online. Sorry. I’m in medical school, and we study MRIs and x-rays constantly.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
Soft tissue damage...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Again, bad choice of words
Basically I meant that an MRI isn’t a standard procedure unless something is suspected to be wrong.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Like Hydroshock said
MRI’s are only performed if something is hurting while playing, or walking
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 17, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm interested to see what the Texans have in Leinart
Is he just an expensive backup or can he be a starter in this league? I’m curious.
Fair enough...
…and I hope that he is everything that a pretty-boy-first-round-draft-pick-out-of-southern-California can be… Oh wait…
Seriously… if it come down to it I’m pulling for a QB controversy. It would be a nice problem to have.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
*comes down to it...
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I could see him "competing" for a starting position somewhere...
But I think that he needs to show some real improvement in a game situation for any “starting job” offers to be handed out.
Although… Minnesota is already starting less talent at the QB position, so you might be right.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
So is....
Miami, Seattle, Jacksonville, Indianapolis, San Francisco, and Washington
Geez, I didn’t realize that list would be so long, and I’m feeling like I’m missing some.
still would rather see us get someone more mobile
That would make our rollouts much more dangerous I think.
Draft Robert Griffin III?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Seattle or Washington are my bets
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it says something that he wasn't just handed the starting gig over T. Jackson and Football Jesus
Seriously. Those two are a huge heap of suck, and Leinart’s former college coach didn’t want him??
Color me skeptical that he’s anything more than an insurance policy, and I can’t say I’d be confident if Schaub goes down for any extended length of time.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Actually
Pete CArroll offered Leinart a position prior to the season starting. Matt decided he had a chance to learn in Houston and he wanted to take it.
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Wasn't he told he'd have to compete for the job?
I thought that’s what I heard. If so it’s not exactly a glowing endorsement from a coach he won a national championship with.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
You forgot Kasey Studdard!!!
and whoever else I’m forgetting,
Man, it really looked like Flacco took more vicious hits than Schaub did but he never showed any signs of pain.
He manned up.
Never even saw a grimace on his face. After Barwin put him on the turf for about the third time in the first quarter, I told the person sitting next to me that he wouldn’t be hanging in there and stepping into throws in the 4th quarter.
I was wrong.
What I saw on Flaccos face
Was a Derp face, he looked bewildered.
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
I predict a $15K to $25K fine for leading with the helmet on a QB
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Which will immediately be set aside when they realize that the QB is Matt Schaub...
“Meh… We haven’t protected him so far… Why start now?”
/Jason Allen agrees
/Drayton Florence agrees
/Fat Albert agrees
/Ngata agrees
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Schaub was running forward on that play Ngata helmeted him in the chest.
Chronicle mentioned it should have been a flag. I’m wondering though if Schaub is to be considered a runner while he was running forward. Does that helmet to runner rule only apply after you cross scrimmage?
Chronicle also forgot to mention the more blatant non-call and that was the facemask on Foster on 4th down.
Sir, you are quoting the Comicle... Please stop.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Yeah some of us are trying to maintain our diet and pancakes are not on the menu!
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Paaaaaancakes...
/Homer Simpson voice
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
or me...
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Oct 17, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Down with Durga!!!
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
If we lose next week
it really will be time to rebel against Durga and demand better treatment or a new representative among the gods/goddesses.
all hail the almighty Z!
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Oct 17, 2011 7:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I've had enough losing
i say we worship Raiden
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
liu kang never seems to lose
he died once, but came back.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
yes the dragon
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
He eventually became a ruthless god
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Haven't you played the new Mortal Kombat yet
He screws up things the more he tries to help
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
but in the end it all works out.
Hail Raiden
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
It is unwise to piss off deities...
That said, I nominate Gozer.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.
by UprootedTexan on Oct 17, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not Zoidberg?
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
UP WITH
CTHULHU!!!!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Meat Cthulhu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ITsGZJustI&hd=1
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Great suggestion. Cthulhu gets my vote.
I read a lot of Lovecraft as a kid and I think Cthulthu makes a lot of sense for us.
it's time
5th year of Schaub… what more do we need to see? He’s a middle-to-lower tier QB who seldom makes a clutch play to win a game. Give Leinart a shot or continue with the status quo? Since this is an extremely pro Kubiak/Schaub blog and anyone who disagrees is a troll, there’s no question what the answer here will be.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 17, 2011 9:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If Schaub is middle to lower tier
What does that make the other 15-20 QBs below him?
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
by Mumford on Oct 17, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
you can name 20 QB’s worse than Schaub?
it would be easier to name 20 QB’s better than Schaub and the young guys (Newton, Bradford, Dalton, Freeman, McCoy) that are not statistically, at least have potential and room for growth. Into a 5th season in the same offense and system a QB should be consistently winning or it’s time to start looking elsewhere.
The problem with this organization and fanbase is that they refuse to acknowledge mediocrity and view it as progress believing that things will magically change. Of course they never change and we’re stuck with the same ole Texans year after year while other teams are turning things around within a year.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 17, 2011 9:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I could absolutely name 20 QBs
That are either worse or at a bare minimum no better than Schaub. Not going to waste my time typing them out though.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
of course you could
outside of Grossman, McNabb, and Moore he probably has the least upside of any QB in the league. Every other guy either wins games or is too young to judge at this point in their careers.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 17, 2011 10:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Mark Sanchez
Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton, Tony Romo, T.Jackson, Donovan MCNabb, Moore, Kerry Collins, Curtis PAinter, Big Ben, Eli Manning, Vince Young, by the end of the year Hasselbeck, Chad Henne, Jason CAmpbell, Garrard, Colt McCoy, Sexy Rexy, Bradford, Ponder.
All that I have listed, have started at least one game this season minus VY, all are either at same level or worse than Schaub. Plus our 3 losses have came to teams who will be in the playoffs this year, two without Andre Johnson, two without Mario Williams. One without Arian Foster. We are at 3-3 during the hardest part of our season, If we come out with less than 10 Wins then I will let you go on. But who do you want instead??? and though Cam’s been stellar obviously he is garbage, I mean how many wins does Carolina have?
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
by Taco Joe on Oct 18, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
You forgot to add Kyle Boller
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice point about Newton... It IS a team game after all.
Something is off with Schaubenstein… Something is hurt in his right shoulder and they just aren’t telling us. His delivery of the short ball is way off for him.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
his wind up is not ultra long...
but it is longer than most qbs. I had the same problem when i throw a football. the timings hard to get on those short ones as opposed to 20-30 yard throws. I think this is a factor. (and maybe injury. Who knows?)
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 18, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I like your Battle Red colored glasses
But you lost all credibility when you named Roethlisberger and Eli Manning who both have rings to prove otherwise. Most of the rest are backup or on IR. One isn’t even in the league anymore. Wait… you left Jake Plummer off your list.
2 losses have come against playoff teams (Raiders are not) and 2 wins against winless
teams, so there is nothing here to feel real good about.
Raiders are not a playoff team.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 18, 2011 7:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Raiders are a playoff team, they can easily win the AFC West
You just don’t want to believe that because it hurts your argument
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
No way the Raiders are a playoff team with Kyle Boller. Teams will put 8-9 in the box and shut down McFadden like they have done to Foster. QB’s like Boller (and Schaub) simply are not built to win games and will almost always make the mistakes to lose.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 18, 2011 9:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
they got carson palmer
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 18, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
but Palmer is
a decent QB, Campbell is a Decent QB as well
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
right.
I think there a playoff team with either this year.
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 18, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
yupp
as of this morning
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 18, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
So a SB RING is all that matters
I forgot… I am sorry. Eli Manning is a Good QB who was carried by a Great Defense, same with pittsburgh… But I forgot if you have a Ring it automatically puts you in the HoF!!!! TRENT DILFER AGREES WITH THIS POST!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
btw
Currently Starting out of my list:
Alex Smith, Cutler, Tim Tebow, T. Jackson, Curtis Painter, Big Ben, Eli Manning, Hasselbeck, McCoy, Hasselbeck, Rex Grossman, Bradford, Ponder, Romo, and newly added Carson Palmer.
On IR: Henne
recently hurt or dropped from starter: Orton, McNabb, Collins
sux0r: VY
So your argument that most of the rest are backups or IR is invalid. btw Raiders are a playoff team who in the AFC west will compete with them even with Carson Palmer taking the reins from Campbell?
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
oh i forgot Mark Sanchez as a starter
whoops…
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Hasselbeck and Manning are both playing better this year.
Romo has had a better career, Bradford and Ponder at least have some upside, and outside of Houston, most everybody would take Big Ben and Cutler over Schaub.
Going forward, I suppose Schaub will hold up longer than Hasselbeck. But two straight years of regression has me worried.
by Nashmeister on Oct 18, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't take Cutler.
Mainly because he’s a dick.
by anthonymgarcia on Oct 18, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Other than a big arm
There’s nothing I like about Cutler, and I certainly don’t think he offers anything that Schaub doesn’t.
Vision….nope….intelligence….nope…..toughness….nope….demeanor….nope.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
so you named about 15 starters
that are arguably worse than Schaub. If someone outside of Houston were to parse that list maybe 5 would stick. The other guys either have rings or are young with upside beyond Schaub who hit his ceiling in 2009 and is clearly regressing.
San Diego wins the West and Palmer may be able to get them to the playoffs however it’s certainly not a given. Either way, a majority of the wins have come against bottom feeders so there’s not a lot to get excited about other than the defense playing better… but just like the same ole Texans do every year, another area of the team regresses which ultimately leads to a mediocre season.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 18, 2011 1:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So which is it?
They are either better now, have a ring (which would imply better at one point like Manning) or they MIGHT be better in a couple of years. What are you asking? Because the guys you say have a “higher ceiling” are most certainly not better right now. There are at most 10 QBs that are definitely better than Schaub RIGHT NOW. Which means he is equal to or better than 2/3 of the league.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
2/3 is a high number
Would you rather have Andy Dalton or Schaub? What about Cam Newton? Matthew Stafford? Josh Freeman? Kevin Kolb? All young guys that may or may not put up the numbers but clearly have a higher ceiling than Schaub who is obviously regressing.
It's Our Time.... or something...
The only one out of those I would take over Schaub is Freeman
Maybe Newton in a few years, but not now. Newton & Dalton is too young & inexperienced, Stafford has been extremely injury prone, & Kolb hasn’t exactly done much outside of his first two starts
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
This^^^^
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
I'd keep Schaub over Freeman
but I might take Stafford. Injury history aside, he’s playing lights out right now and has a great deep ball.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
The ONLY one of those
I would consider over Schaub is Stafford. He gives us a better chance to win right now than all the others.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Like I said
Bennprince, Superbowl Ring ≠ a good QB! Trent Dilfer, would love you! and I should add peyton manning on that list because currently he sucks! and I bet you there are pleanty outside of houston who would see most of those QBs and think the same thing. I saw Schaub on a lot of outside of houston top 10 list… I am not saying he is Tom Brady, but the only reason I would pick Ben R over Schaub is his mobility. And who knows how any of the young guys end up.
I think you are seeing regression where injury has been a major reason for it. We have lost Andre, Arian, Ben, Butler, Ward, Casey at some point this season. With dings to Wade Smith, Brown, Schaub, Walter, Jacoby. Our offense is getting beat up because of the strength of the Defenses we have played so far.
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
some of all
There is no question that Roethlisberger is a better QB so let’s just throw that one out the window. The guy is a winner… plain and simple.
We can make every excuse in the world for Schaub (like we did for Carr) but the fact remains that the guy is not a winner and this is what QB’s are judged by no matter how bad their teams are. When Aaron Rodgers lost a bunch of weapons last year they didn’t sit around making excuses. When Roethlisberger’s defensive line was horrible a few years ago he found a way to win a Super Bowl.
If you can honestly say that you see a winner in Matt Schaub… well… I wouldn’t know how to respond to that because the guy loses a lot more games for his team than he wins. The W/L columns speak for themselves and are all that matter in the end.
It's Our Time.... or something...
Actually the defenses he's had to deal with and Ch/Kris Brown have cost us a lot of games Schaub put them in position to win
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Last year the defense was losing games
the year before it was the Chris/Kris Brown effect. Yes he has thrown bonehead interceptions at the end of games, but his numbers have been solid and he hasnt been as bad as most make him out to be. Am I saying he is an elite QB? NO. but he is better than over 2/3 of the QBs in the league. I put Roethlisberger at about the same level as Schaub, not worse. you asked who was at or below schaubs level I gave you my opinion. your whole ceiling thing is redundant, because in that sense Matt Leinart, and TJ Yates have a higher Ceiling.
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THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
i'm glad that you have finally put to rest any doubt
you are either mentally… insufficient or a troll.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
My vote = troll
Starve him.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
of course
everyone that disagrees with the masses is a troll on this blog. it’s pretty pathetic actually.
It's Our Time.... or something...
and my second language is sarcasm
but yea, Kubiak and Schaub are the answer… keep believing that and maybe they will win the division by 2018.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 18, 2011 8:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe off topic
Who was it that wanted Schaub here? It was a combination of Kubes and Dan Reeves when he was a consultant right? My memory is sort of fuzzy.
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Oct 17, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He is Kubiak’s guy all the way and Schaub will follow him as a backup QB to whichever team hires him as Offensive Coordinator. They are what they are… a career coordinator and a career backup. Not bad work if you can get it but simply not good enough to win in the NFL as the main guy.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 17, 2011 10:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This may be your worst comment yet.
And that is really saying something.
Will you show your face here and give credit to Kubiak and Schaub if they put together 10-11 wins and make the playoffs? Or will you show up just to criticize and predict a loss?
by WhiskeyR on Oct 17, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Pretty much the latter
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
spades are spades
I know… it’s just crazy to think they are what they have proven to be. And HC’s never get fired and take OC jobs while bringing in their former players. How retarded of me to ever think such things…
Don’t worry, I will be here to tell you that I told you so.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 18, 2011 8:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not that this blog is Pro-Schaub per se.
Objectively, Schaub is better than lower-tier. Whether you look at stats which are clearly in favor of Schaub being upper tier to middle tier, or whether you just look at the other 31 starting quarterbacks and go off of a gut feeling, I think it’s hard to argue that Schaub is a bad quarterback.
The flip-side of that, is that he isn’t the best quarterback in the league, and unless you have that, it’s possible to improve. The reason why I, for one, favor the status quo, is that the downside of Schaub is not enough to warrant sacrificing our future to improve the QB position. I just don’t think that the difference between Schaub’s play and the improved play that a better QB would give us is worth giving up what it would take to do that.
Of course, that value judgment is based on my view of Schaub. The worse you think Schaub is, the greater the value in replacing him. So to recap, I don’t think you’re a troll, I just disagree with your assessment of Schaub.
by Tailgate Andy on Oct 17, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the same argument I have with alot of people.
They see Brady and Rodgers and Manning(peyton) and Brees making big plays and not very many bad plays. Then they see Shaub play a not so hot game and tell me how bad he sux and the Texans need to get rid of him… but here’s my reply to all of this…
Like him or not, he isn’t horrible. He’s not the best or the worst, but that doesn’t even matter… the big question here is… Who will you replace him with? He’s the best we have, much better than anyone else available, and if you don’t have an answer to that, other than the draft, SHUT UP, cuz we aren’t getting any one of the four QBs I mentioned earlier.
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What the hell?
Are we 0-6 or just 3-3
Anyone who predicted this team to be better than 4-2 after this stretch was drowning in Battle Red Koolaid. 3-3 is where most had us pegged at this point with a very manageable schedule the rest of the way.
You don’t pull the “let’s see what we have” card until your chance for the playoffs is out of reach (see Vikings). At this point you give it all with the players you feel give you the best chance to win, not risk the season on the outside chance of a slight upgrade at quarterback.
If/when we are 3-6 you can play that card all you want, I’ll be right there with you.
by FreeRange on Oct 17, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Its really unbelievable.
The transients from TexansTalk use every loss to call for a new coach and QB (because better ones are a dime a dozen apparently?). They’re totally jumping the gun on this. With the worst part of the schedule out of the way, 3-3 is about as good as we could have hoped. I still think we get 10-11 wins.
Helps distract them...
from having both male and female parts…. oh wait you said “transient”
by FreeRange on Oct 17, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could Not Agree More
FreeRange. I have been saying this…. We get AJ back soon which will give us one of the few times that AJ AND Arian Foster have been on the field at the same time. I think everyone here knows how good AJ is but i dont think everyone is realizing how he completely changes the way our offense functions. That combined with a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way = a very happy fan base by our bye week.
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by theSpaceCityKid on Oct 17, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol can Monday night football get any worse
by TheDream34 on Oct 17, 2011 10:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yes
The Jaguars have 2 home MNF games this year, first is next week.
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no clue.
The MNF slate this year is God awful.
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I think its interesting
Because its a testament to how quickly things change in the NFL. Last year the Jags were in the running for the AFC South late in the season. When they make the schedule I think they’re trying to put the most meaningful games together, its amazing how hard it is to predict those.
But scheduling the JAGUARS, and giving them TWO HOME GAMES
Knowing the Jaguars attendance (or lack thereof), I dunno why the hell they’d be given 2 home MNF games …. At least give one to us or even to you, MNF games in Houston always looked like good atmospheres and the one we had in 08 was awesome. Just anyone but the Jags …..
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe part of a plan to give the Jags some exposure before a move to LA?
I can’t believe the Jags aren’t tanking.
Maybe they were going for history
The first Monday Night Football game to be blacked out in a local market
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
It was ALMOST Tampa a couple weeks ago
but I think they pulled it off. The economy there is very bad.
unless you're in Houston
where it’s the same ole, same ole
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 18, 2011 8:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Manatee Fund Raiser over at St. John's River possibly?
who knows….maybe the LA bidding team wanted to see the glitter kitties on MNF to evaluate their purchase?
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Yeah, because heaven knows...
…those beach bums aren’t going to let some trifling football game cut into their surfing time, so Sundays are OUT.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I understand LA is a huge market
But they have some of the WORST sports fans on the planet. That move will be a fail.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
they are trying to enhance their
fan base, maybe they can double from 3 to 6.
i saw a Jag’s player’s dad had on a ND hat instead of a jag hat, lol
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 17, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh Oh Guys Dominique Barber is out for the season
SEASON OVER!!!!!!!!!
i believe he's on IR
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Oct 17, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Time to call up Shiloh Keo
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Any word on Andre, Texans fans?
I would say BRING IT ON LET HIM PLAY!!!!!! but our chances of winning are a little easier without him beating the shit out of Finnegan again. Foster is still enough to give us fits and Schaub traditionally plays well in Nashville anyway so it’ll still be a great game regardless
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 11:02 PM CDT reply actions
Question: Who is your primar reciver now that Britt is out?
Is it washington? How has he looked?
Yup, Nate Washington is our #1
He’s having his best season as a Titan thus far, but still has the occasional ball he should catch that he doesn’t. Outside of Nate, we have guys who have potential (key word) but need to step it up, being Damian Williams, Lavelle Hawkins, etc.
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That's no fun
You really don’t want to see Andre beat up Finnegan again?
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I'm really excited. Should be a playoff atmosphere since a sweep by either team pretty much wraps up the division.
And I’d rather see Andre put up 150 yds and 2 TDs on Finnegan than beat his ass again.
I doubt there's a sweep.
Mostly because I think we win at home and you win at home. Like I’ve said before, a loss in this game hurts us way more than it hurts you guys. Being 0-2 in the division compared to you guys at 2-0 would just be killer
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Btw, tell your Texans-fan-posing-as-Titans-fan 8to80 that he can stop the charade
Acting like he’s a Titans fan on MCM when he’s clearly a Texans fan, sad sad sad ….
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 11:06 PM CDT reply actions
and if I must show proof, here it is
Faking as a Titans fan:
Yea were gonna catch hell from the texans.I dont know if hasslebeck will even last to the second half and he is injury prone and the texans pass rush is brutal ive been watching even without mario they have been killing quarterbacks. we might get our first jake locker outing of the season.
Aj prob gonna play.Even if he dosent play the way texans pass rush is playing and how shitty CJ has been this year we are set up to get beat down by the texans.
If that wasn’t obviously slanted towards some Texans bias, then here’s the clincher:
texans letskick that dolphin ass bitch!!!!!!!
Not sure if the memo was out there, but Texans fans are free to talk smack on MCM, you don’t have to fake being a Titans fan while slanting posts towards the Texans …….
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
8to80?
Sounds like he’s pretty much admitting he’s a Texan fan.
Hard to dispute what you see here:
http://www.sbnation.com/users/8TO80
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 17, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That guy got banned from here.
hes not one of us anymore.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
I'm guessing sock-puppet
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
wasn't here long enough
got banned pretty quickly.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
Everybody knows 8to80 is Bo$$man.
he is not one of us trust me, he has been banned from pretty much every other SBN blog site.
I have been critical of schaub for his recent play
And rightfully so, he hasn’t played as well as he should, but I can not deny the toughness he has shown lately
by TheDream34 on Oct 18, 2011 1:43 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
can someone have a high tolerance for pain and not be tough?
it’s hard for me to think of Matt as tough, he goes down easier an (insert bad joke here). but he will take his lumps and play through it, I’ve got to give him that.
I just think something is wrong...
…and it is really affecting his throws on short crossing routes. I don’t know if it is physical or just “the yips” but there is definitely something up widdat.
And toughness only goes so far. For whatever else I can say about him, David Carr (/spits on ground) was a tough sumbitch. He hid it just about as well as any metro-sexual, mitten-wearing, hair-obsessive, male model-wannabe could but I still have to give him that. He took a steady (self-inflicted in many cases) ass-whipping every week and kept getting up to lead us to suckiocity.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Jay Cutler is a perfect example of that
Also David Carr
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Cutler? he seems geniunely tough to me.
I know Matt is trying to save his body on a lot of sacks a la Peyton Manning but it seems like he lacks the physical strength to fight through ANY contact. If anyone gets a hand on him he’s done.
He's physically tough, just not emotionally tough, which could be said about Romo as well
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Peytton Manning goes down easy all the time
because he would rather just get it over with and move on to the next play instead of taking a beating. Is he not tough?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Nope, but he's smart
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say he's particularly tough, like Night Owl said he's just tough
a lot of times with Schaub it doesn’t seem like he’s being smart, it seems like he just gets rag dolled around like a 12 year old girl.
I am just happy I have been able to not throw out any troll food
It was tempting, then I realized the lack of logic – and was able to just ignore those comments.
It would be nice if there were an “ignore” button
I am now drinking the koolaid. Texans are making their turn for the best. Screw pessimism!
An ignore button would be great
but there have been some good points come out of people schooling the trolls.
plus its soo damn funny sometimes
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
by Carter Liles on Oct 18, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup and that...
…is what makes not “feeding” the trolls so tough. There is often recreation value there and there is nothing more entertaining that watching Jordann dis-assemble some semi-literate screaming moron.
I know that it makes the “can’t we all just get along” crowd unhappy, but occasionally it is really therapeutic to get to see a mouth-breather creatively and and artistically eviscerated.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I read him and Texanutt (I think) going at it
Pretty soon after I started posting here. That was good quality entertainment if I do say so myself.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Is it me or but why are teams having two weeks to prepare for us two weeks in a row.
I dont like that at all.
Knowing our luck
Bud Adams will die this week
I am now drinking the koolaid. Texans are making their turn for the best. Screw pessimism!
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 18, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell no, I wouldn't want that
If he died this weekend, I’d want the Texans to win so Houston can send him off to the pearly gates pissed off with Al Davis waiting there just to say “I guess your guys didn’t care for you as much as my guys loved me, huh?”
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 19, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Ain't that what they said about the Seymour deal?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea i agree
but i tell you what Phillip rivers has some QB competion in the AfC east finally. First Tebow now Palmer. I think palmer might surprise people, he gets to go back home in cali.
Not to mention, with their track record of first round pick selections
Only a first (& more than likely a late first at that) for Palmer seems like a good deal to me
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
it looks like it's a 2012 first rounder plus a conditional first in 2013.
I wouldn’t give one first rounder for Palmer let alone two.
Cincy got away with murder.
Thier team is 4-2 as of right now plus you get picks for a player who was just chilling at home.
However, that's a move Al Davis would have been proud of
One strong arm QB goes down & you quickly replace him
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
was kinda hoping pryor would come in and just wreck.
wishful thinking huh? o and the only reason is because i have him on my fantasy teams
They won't throw him in yet
Give him a year or two
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
reading article that his arm strength has been under question.
I think Al Davis would have preferred they play Pryor.
Probably, but not right away
Al saw the mistake they made with Russell, which may be why he didn’t push so hard to get his suspension lifted
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
They've said his work ethic has been pretty good so far
Hell, Jason Campbell even jokingly asked him if he was an offensive consultant during a classroom session
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I meant Russell's work ethic
Like they made a mistake evaluating Russell’s work ethic before drafting him, or they thought they could coach that into Russell.
ZOMG THE TEXANS SHOULD HAVE TRADED FOR HIM
Now we are stuck with Schaub
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
We can get Tebow next year when Denver goes after Andrew Luck
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey
Drew Brees and the Saints can't work out a contract! Let's get him!
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Oct 18, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll be surprised if the Texans actually make another move
The only move I expect them to do right now is put Barber on IR & call up Shiloh Keo from the practice squad
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder, when Andre comes back
Who will be our WR3? Is it possible Kubes will send Holliday back to the PS and move Jacoby to return duties and WR4?
Then again, OD did draw quadruple coverage on that play & Ed Reed bit that way too
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
One play
Does not cancel out the rest of the year for me. The experiment is over IMO
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
I thought he had overall a good game, just wasn't enough for us to win.
Had we gotten that out of him against the Raiders we would have won that game. But then again that’s the problem too, he wasn’t there when we most needed him.
Same
What did it for me was listening to Dre talk about him. Apparently he’s still impatient in his route running and has a tendency to give away his routes by rushing his cuts. I mean, if he hasn’t been able to learn that by watching the master by now then I dunno. Maybe he has ADD.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Mason could end up being our #3
But with the current roster as is, Holliday won’t get cut. He could take over kick return duties to alleviate Manning’s work load
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
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