Danieal Manning Fractures Leg; Out 4-10 Weeks
by Tim on Oct 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT
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PrintPerhaps the lone stain upon your Houston Texans' glorious thrashing of Bud Adams' team this afternoon was the injury to Danieal Manning. After he picked off Matt Hasselbeck in the second quarter, Manning went down, limped off the field, went to the locker room via cart, and then appeared on the sidelines on crutches. Although he'll have an MRI tomorrow, the early word is that Manning fractured his leg and could miss anywhere from 4-10 weeks.
This is a gigantic loss. Manning was playing very, very well, and there's a substantial drop-off from Danieal Manning to Troy Nolan or Shiloh Keo. Some quotes from Manning and Gary Kubiak after the jump.
"My gut feeling is that I’ll be back," said Manning, who was on crutches. "There’s a crack in it. They tell me I have a few options."
"I was focused on the ball, so I don’t really know what happened," Manning said. "I didn’t feel any pain until I tried to get up, and I thought, ‘Oh, man.’"
"There’s still a chance he can be back this year," coach Gary Kubiak said. "We’re evaluating it right now. We’re going to have to make some decisions in the next day or so. It’ll be assessed over the next 24 hours."
If there's anything that can take some of the sweetness out of a 41-7 win on the road against a divisional foe, this would be it.
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Uhm.
I love having an actual safety, but Danieal Manning is nobody’s superstar.
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by riversmccown on Oct 23, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Compared to past Texans Safeties
he is a superstar
but he isn’t a superstar
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 23, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Damn that sucks
Jules=Now I want you to go in that bag and find my wallet
Ringo=which one is it
Jules=the one that says bad mother fucker!
Re: lone stain
Also an acceptable moniker for me.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
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by Lone Spot on Oct 23, 2011 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Craaaaaaaap.
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Once again
Fuck you, Durga. You fucking whore.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
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Considering pulling a "Lieutenant Dan"
And blaspheme the gods from high atop a mast during a hurricane of shit.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
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I believe we should
Official change it to the dark lord
Durga has forsaken us again!
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Fuck that Bitch...
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Or in cartoon form
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by distant_texans_fan on Oct 23, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
How about edible form?
Meat Cthulhu
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Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 23, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i think nolan will be like jason allen.
get burned a bit, but can also make a play. Also, minus the quick strikes to KJ early, i thought he played ok.
See that quietness around here? That calm demeanor right now that all the Texans are feeling?
Thats the calm before the storm. Watch out Titans!!!
totally agreed here.
I think after that one pass interference call, he really picked up his game. Kareem looked like a serviceable corner. I was quite impressed.
McCain on the other hand, he is progressing at an ALARMING rate. I don’t know why Kubiak doesn’t use him more, but McCain is looking very very promising. crossing fingers
He's why we haven't been seeing Brandon Harris
McCain has been doing good as a nickel corner
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 23, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Some thoughts.
We don’t Manning to beat the Jags. We probably don’t need a defense to beat the Browns. I don’t know what the Bucs are week to week. At worst 7-4 going into a bye with another games against the Jags and Colts post-bye. Hmm… I’m not too concerned, but damnit we gotta stop losing players.
Elaine Benes thinks Arian Foster is sponge-worthy.
At worst 7-4
Are we going to beat the bye week or lose to it in this prediction?
I think we’ll be 7-3 going into the bye…
Even at 10 weeks
That would put him back in time for the playoffs no?
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
4-10 weeks?
Come on, Man!! Preliminary damage control by Kubes and the front office. It is a broken leg but I can’t imagine it taking more than six weeks to heal and a couple more to get back on the field. Confession: Not an orthopedic surgeon.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Every player in our secondary (besides Kareem Jackson) is immensely valuable.
This injury frightens me more than any besides Schaub and Joseph. We might be abused by opposing tight-ends for the remainder of the season.
Time to shift one of the corners over to backup safety.
We have Brandon Harris on the inactives list every week, so it may be worthwhile to have McManis move to FS and let Harris take his place as the dime/5th corner.
I would have liked to see him trained in the off-season.
I don’t think you can move a guy to safety mid-season, though.
this is surely a better idea
than playing Keo. He looked REAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLY BAD.
Jason Allen would be the better idea
He’s played some FS before, plus that could give McCain some snaps at the #2 CB & get Harris in at the nickel corner
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 23, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well after we lose J Jo for the season next week (reverse jinx) we can call it a season, eh?
by Its Gonna Happen on Oct 23, 2011 5:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think we'll be fine.
I’m confident in Nolan playing decently.
The rest of our schedule is easy, so I’m not too worried.
If he can be back in 6-7 weeks, I’ll take that. I just want him for the playoffs, assuming we get there.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Nolan has had some pretty big hits this year
He’s no Manning but I’ve seen him flatten some players so far, maybe he won’t be a HUGE drop off? And speaking of bringing the wood, how about Joseph with the big hits today?
by Its Gonna Happen on Oct 23, 2011 5:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nolan sucks
terrible in coverage.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Even if it's worst case scenario (10 weeks), he'll be ready for the playoffs.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
They won't hold him for that long
He’ll go to IR.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
I hope not
He needs to be in on the playoff run.
If a player is IR’d, does he still count against the cap?
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Oct 23, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
ofc
It just frees up a roster spot. Which are very valuable.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
more valuable
than Manning would potentially be for a late season playoff push? mmmmmm, if a bye is at stake (which it might be), I’d rather have him than not.
I agree. Unless we absolutely need a body, I'd rather Manning be available to return.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Oct 24, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Much respect
breaks his leg and still holds onto the INT.
by WhiskeyR on Oct 23, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
Rec'd
That’s toughness.
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by riversmccown on Oct 23, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
What about a Free Agent till we get him back?
I think veteran safety Darren Sharper is still available.
Nothing left.
Change please
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
you think so? I think it would be a good move if for nothing else than depth…
by TheyCallMeTex on Oct 23, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually I do agree with TheyCallMeTex here.
Sharper can provide a veteran presence and he’s still better than Shiloh Keo….
Saints used him up and spit him out.
He was pretty bad as a backup in 2010, and the Patriots kicked the tires on him and said no thanks. The Patriots have a 2010 Texans defense* I should add.
.
*They do have a legit NT though.
Change please
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Quick note of importance
41-7 (34 point differential) is the largest margin of victory in team history. The fact that it came in Methapotamia in a game for first place makes it that much sweeter.
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I hope Manning does like Grace from Grace's Health Foods did once
Grace was an elderly lady who owned Grace’s Health Foods up in Spring. The story she told was that she broke or fractured her wrist and got it put in a cast. Then she doubled up on Silica — I think it was Alta-Sil-X (well not sure if it was actually double but she really amped up her dosage) and after a few weeks she asked the doctor to take the cast off her wrist — he didn’t think there was any point because he KNEW it wouldn’t be healed. She said that she’d pay for the X-Ray but she wanted him to take the cast off. He took the X-ray and it had healed. So she got her cast off earlier than expected.
It would be worth looking into. I’d love it if silica helped his bone to heal up faster.
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~~ Fuzion
I'm not sure sand is the answer
besides – it may be on the “banned substances list”. You never know.
Then again – yeah, he’s probably tough enough to eat crushed glass……
ohrly?
I’ll believe ya when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
by DaGoaT on Oct 23, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Super Trooper references on auto-rec
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by Jordann on Oct 23, 2011 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I <3 you.
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Did you hear that punk Rodney harrison
Dude didn’t give us any credit and said the titans quit
by TheDream34 on Oct 23, 2011 6:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
To be fair
They did.
…with 5 minutes left in the 4th when they were losing by 34.
by Karsh on Oct 23, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
At that point - true
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 23, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Expected.
The BESFs are bitches. We just exposed their entire 6-10 season. I don’t blame the guy, I’d be ashamed too.
I really like
that you’ve stuck with the 6-10 thing throughout.
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See hal's comments?
Their entire offense was predicated on jump balls to Kenny Britt. That’s gone now, So is their offense.
Though, I admit, their o-line performed well against the pass rush.
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We had a tought time getting pressure
Thank Durga we have a secondary now.
They were right about their pass protection. It was excellent.
Hmm... The secondary played it's best game in years
And guess who hardly played in that secondary today?
by TheDream34 on Oct 23, 2011 6:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The opening drive should be grounds for cutting Kareem immediately.
When the opposing team takes three-step drops and blindly launches bombs at the guy he is covering the first two plays of the game, you’ve got problems. And that PI might have been one of the most horrid attempts at coverage I’ve ever witnessed.
Kareem or Allen
I can’t decide who I’d like to get face aids.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Kareem Is Worse, I Think
And I’m not sure it’s even close.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
I'm wondering
if the injury to Manning means they put Allen at safety again. He has experience there already. Might finally get Harris on the field to spell Kareem.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
That'd Be An Interesting Move
Doubt that kind of position switch happens in season, but I would love to see Harris get some snaps at some point.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Yeah, they couldn't make up their mind of what spot they wanted him at & kept switching him back & forth
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 23, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
They were doing that because they had too many good CBs, Allen got lost in the rotation, so they were trying to get him on the field
Kinda like the Casey move from TE to FB
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 23, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Harris?
What about McCain!? Dude is looking SOOO good the past couple of weeks. I like the idea of moving Allen to safety b/c of his hard hitting ability, but if we are replacing Kareem with anyone it MUST be Brice at this point. He’s actually EARNED it.
Also that could get Harris in at the nickel spot
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Oct 23, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to go out on a limb here
and its not just because he restrained someone’s arm forcing them to eat dirt on a tackle in hilarious fashion…
I feel much more confident with Allen as CB2. He is in better position to make his plays than Kareen. Kareem can tackle pretty well, but as someone pointed out this week (can’t remember who), he is always behind the play, whereas Allen is in the right place more often.
I’m no stats geek, but my general feeling is that we’re a better team with Allen on the field. I’ll even go a step further and say, at the risk of being wrong, that we may be extra hard on him because of our previous secondary woes. He just might be a decent CB2?
I do not want Kareem Jackson on the field.
I still think Kareem should be playing safety...
Not fast enough to play CB? Check. Pretty good against the run? Check. Mildly competent in coverage? Nope. He should have been converted in the off-season instead of Quin.
I agree
I was one of the people pointing out that Allen is always in position to keep his man in front of him whereas Kareem is always chasing, which is why he give up bigger plays over the top and Allen has two picks in the same situations.
Allen does give up a large cushion sometimes just like Kareem, but his overall body of work is better from what I’ve seen of the two. Maybe Kareem gets better and maybe he doesn’t, but his deep speed is horrible and you can’t coach that so give me Jason Allen.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I just don't see how we can possibly play KJax over Allen
Allen may not be Jonathan Joseph, but he is far FAR more likely to make a play on the ball and much MUCH less likely to give up a big play than KJax.
I’m a Kubiak fan. I’m trying to stay positive that he, with the addition of Wade Phillips, can get it done for us. I can see the reasoning in almost anything he does, even when it doesn’t work out. I really do give him the benefit of the doubt. But this, for the life of me, I cannot understand. I even gave him a pass last year on KJax. Right now though, he should be on the field only when Allen needs a break.
In my opinion
Kubiak should keep his nose out of the defensive depth chart. Wade is an excellent DC and former head coach. There’s no reason I can think of that Kubiak needs to tell him who to play other than it has to do with draft investment only.
STAY OUT OF WADE’S WAY KUB!!
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
which begs the question:
What does Wade REALLY think of Kareem?
Agreed w/ u Hydro. I do however, see Kareem as a natural fit for SS.
How's that for some cruel irony?
They call up Trindon Holliday partly to lessen Manning’s chance of getting injured by removing his kick-off duties, then this happens.
We have a lot of potential wins in front of us
I’m confident our coaches will not let this team get too over-confident. But I think this next stretch of games should be enough to instill an expectation of winning in our team that will hopefully benefit us in the playoffs.
We’re good at losing games we should win, so nothing is a given. But with Wade Phillips running our D and a weakish schedule, I think we could be in for a new era.
Savor this "W", stay composed and look forward to next week...
1-0. I think they may need to get back to that philosphy.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
by chuckiepoo on Oct 23, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed
This is what i have been saying since our low point in the loss @Balt. I dont think we will be the underdog in ANY more of our games this season. And we get AJ back and for pretty much the first time (besides one half against Pitt.) we will have AJ AND Foster on the field at the same time. We could win every single game left on the board. That said, i think we lose 2 more.
great win, and i so bad
want to get up for it but history tells me to wait. my beloved texans must win the next three to show they are on the real forealz!!! i am satisfied but not celebratory just yet. take care of business the next three weeks and i wiill drink plenty of crunk during the bye week. honestly, anything less than that will be “same ole texans” or should i say “texacants”???
2011 Season is the Reason!!!
I can some up this news with one cheer...
ahhhhhhh… shit, fuck, you suck
or
nuts and bolts, nuts and bolts, we got screwed
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Oct 23, 2011 7:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What do you care?
You’re going to bitch and moan about everything, anyway.
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by bigfatdrunk on Oct 23, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
after all teh Schaub had 5 incompletions
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 23, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He also sucked at practice the other day.
by WhiskeyR on Oct 23, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The day he missed - right?
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
by Barryfromtexas on Oct 23, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Any way to figure this out?
Jason Allen played some safety in college. Played safety with mixed results for Miami.
Is it possible that Jason Allen has played more safety than any of the healthy safeties on the Texans’ roster? Don’t know exactly how many games he played safety for Miami.
I wouldn't mind him playing some safety
I don’t think the gap between Allen and K jax is anywhere near as big as the gap from allen to nolan or keo
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
At least this year
I have confidence we have a D coordinator who can figure it out.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
by Mumford on Oct 23, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's sign Ronnie Lott!
Even at his age he is better than Nolan or Keo.
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Neil Rackers
The hit Neil Rackers made on that kick off…. Just sign him up to play some safety
Just another reason to fire Kubiak
Everyone knows injuries directly correlate to coaching ability. Has Tom Brady ever gotten injured for an entire season? No, because his coach is beast.
What about the Steelers? None of their players ever get hurt. Ever.
FIRE KUBES! IMPEACH SCHAUB!
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
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someone hasnt seen the steelers o line
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Sarcasm fellas
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
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It’s bush’s fault. Reggie bush that is. He’s pissed we fired him. He put something in the gatorade
by HTown80 on Oct 23, 2011 11:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I meant frank bush. I was a little shitty last night after giving it to bud cellblock style. Sober now
by HTown80 on Oct 24, 2011 12:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He put da team on his back doe.
The Texans are like a $14 wine. They're supposed to get better in time, but in the end it's still crap.
by NewJerseyTexansFan on Oct 24, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I wish I had more accounts...
So I could give this three recs.
Kubes presser live @3:30PM
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
Apparently he had surgery
According to Kubes
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
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