Matt Leinart Speaks About Stepping Up In Wake Of Matt Schaub's Injury
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Leinart sounds like he believes he’s a different guy than the first-round draft pick who did not pan out in Arizona.
He loves working with Schaub and has high praise for coach Gary Kubiak, offensive coordinator Rick Dennison and quarterback coach Greg Knapp.
"The quarterback coaching here is second to none, it’s unbelievable." Leinart said. "I think that’s why Matt has been able to be so successful and efficient for years now."
It’s demanding in a way he said is intended to bring out the best in a quarterback and that’s how it should work for him now that he’s older and more mature. His job now is to trust what the coaches tell him, manage the offense and be efficient.
He’s worked hard on his footwork, and it’s supposed to help steer him to throw the ball to the right place.
The offense should be the same, as he shares strengths with Schaub.
"That’s something I’ve always been comfortable with, in college we ran (bootleg) all the time, as much as we do here," he said. "And it’s part of the reason why I love this offense so much. At Arizona, we weren’t a big boot-action, play-action and boot-pass team at all. Obviously here with the way we run the ball so well, that’s a huge part of our offense and that’s something that I really feel comfortable doing."
by willieboyd on Nov 14, 2011 7:09 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
I'm trying to drink the kool-aid. I'm seriously trying.
It’s hard for me to right now. Maybe after a week I can bring back that optimism I was feeling when I woke up this morning about the Texans.
I’ve slammed Leinart here in the past but I’ll be the first to sing his praises if he steps in and steps up.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
This
Is exactly how I feel. I am trying to tell myself that we will be ok, but it’s a tough conversation right now.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Here's what we know:
1. We are still looking good for a playoff berth (our first ever) and should finish 4-2 (with just decent QB play) for an 11-6 record.
2. If Leinart completely shits the bed, Schaub hasn’t been IR’ed and there’s a good chance he could return for the 1st week of the playoffs (if he doesn’t need surgery).
3. We have something going this year that is not a fluke. A one and out in the playoffs would actually be something to build on.
4. We will finally get to see what Leinart has.
im probably being very optimistic but i do have confidence in Leinart.
In arizona he had no defense and no running game to go along with a coach not as established as Kubs in the QB department. He’s not gonna be Schaub but I do think he’ll show he can be a starting QB in this league.
by Dmo_Htx on Nov 14, 2011 7:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm right there with you.
Until he proves me wrong in two weeks against the kitties, I’m confident (arrogant?) that he’ll be ok. i just hope and pray that Schaub has a fast and healthy recovery
by RaY210 on Nov 14, 2011 7:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I almost wish we weren't on bye so that the wait to see him in action..
..(and thereby assess that status of the rest of the season) wasn’t as long.
by brightshinies on Nov 14, 2011 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
No way
the injury bye is at the perfect time.
He needs the reps with the first team, if in fact we practice this week. If we don’t, I hope he’s in every day with Kubes and Dennison.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
Kubes said that he's going to rest most of the team this week
but Leinert and AJ will work
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
That is a nice thing
They should really get that timing down
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 14, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
he already left
for southern Cal. He’s not coming back until next week.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
this actually gives me a sense of relief
it’s good to know he’ll have them work extra to get down chemistry
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 14, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
I have faith in Kubiak. The guy knows how to move the ball.
It’s a longshot but I wouldn’t be surprised if our offensive production increased. Just like it did when ’Dre was out.
Kubiak will find a way to scheme with leinart and use his strengths. Plus he supposedly fits well in the system.
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I want to believe in your optimism. I really do.
And I will because I’m hanging on by a thread in the confidence department.
by brightshinies on Nov 14, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
We've been winning while only throwing the ball 15-20 times a game.
That’s what’s getting me through this so far. It’s not like our running game is a surprise to anyone. So Leinart just has to be able to keep the D honest, and Andre should help that a great deal.
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That's what worries me though
Will defenses respect Leinart enough to keep them honest? I just don’t know…
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
A few passes to OD, AJ and JJ should put some points on the board
Then, let the O-line, Arian and Ben do their thing
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
That's true, BUT
It will get much harder in the playoffs, and that’s where we will need Schaub’s experience. I’m praying that Leinart can keep the train rolling and we get Matt 1 back for the playoffs.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Experience is all well and good,
But doesn’t Matt L have more big game experience than Matt S?
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
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remember how we talked shit bout the colts fans saying that their offensive production might increase with collins?
its not an exact comparison , but theres definitly similarities.
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by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
I dont think ours increases,
but I dont think it falls off either like losing manning did for the colts.
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Matt Schaub is NOT fivehead.
At all.
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
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Never said he was
Our team is polar opposite of INDY
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“I imagine now defenses are going to try to make me throw the ball to win," he said. "We’ve got some great guys on the outside to do that… It’s going to be fun.”
by brightshinies on Nov 14, 2011 7:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like the confidence
its better than the alternative.
Also, I like our backup this year better than last year.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
I am listening to the podcast of Leinart as I am reading this
and I read your quote less than a minute before I heard him say it. Crazy coincidence.
Or was it?
lets face it
This season SCHAUB has not been schaub. His qb rating is high because he doesn’t HAVE to throw the ball 30+ times per game. As far as teams stacking the front to stop the run, haven’t they been doing that? Fact, this team is DEEP, like jenna jameson deep. While I am extremely bummed about schaub, I am still convinced we will be top 2 in the afc, and have another bye week coming our way.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 7:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I have to agree with you
Jenna Jameson is deep. Oh, and the Texans will get a bye.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
What he said about the bootleg is very encouraging.
That’s by far his most important job, besides just handing a ball of cleanly. Schaub is the best play-action QB in the league, that’s where Leinart will need to prove himself. I don’t care if he can’t throw a bomb, I don’t care if he can’t thread a needle with a football, I don’t care if he can’t scramble for five or ten, he just needs to be a damn good actor.
If and when he runs that boot,
he’ll be picking up 5 or 10 yards if nobody’s open. Not throwing it out of bounds like Schaub (not knocking Schaub, he’s just not as mobile)
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
Just as long as he remembers to slide
Nothing against TJ Yates, but I would hate to see TJ Yates playing a meaningful snap his first year…
nah
He needs to make good decisions, and throw accurately. In that order, that is the most important thing. The first one is TBD, and the second one is, from what I recall, the reason he was let go from the Cards.
Hopefully Kubiak has worked magic. But I’m cautiously pessimistic.
Luckily its the glitter kitties.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
In Arizona one of the things he did pretty well was play fakes and bootlegs too
He usually seemed to do a good job at selling the fakes.
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He said in a conference call today saying that when he played at USC, they did bootleg and plays action all the time.
He said he’s very familiar and comfortable with it and said Arizona did not use much bootleg/PA.
I know, I've been reading all of those articles.
Just going from what I remember from him when he used to play here.
Most of my memories of him playing are from 06 though. Besides that, there isn’t really a lot because of Warner taking over in 07 and the debacle with Whiz thinking that Derek Anderson was a better fit for the offense (what a load of crap that was).
Couple things that stick out are him jukeing Patrick Willis in 07, when he threw for over 300 yards in one half of a preseason game, and that game against the Titans where VY led the 99 yard drive with 2 minutes left.
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From what I've seen, the Cards really don't use much PA?
Care to chime in on that?
I see them use it maybe a couple times a game
Mostly it is just faking the handoff, I can’t recall seeing any bootlegs this season. Usually, when Kolb or Skelton leave the pocket it is because they are scrambling around to buy some time.
It was used more often with Leinart than Warner though when they were both here. But both QBs were able to pick plays they liked to go into the gameplan, so it makes sense that he would do PA more while Warner was usually going with shotgun and spread the field stuff.
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Nothing against Shaub's deceptiveness, but...
I think Foster and Tate are more the reason for our successful play-action.
Schaub sells it so well though
he makes sure his handoff action and his fake look almost perfectly alike.
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I'm pretty sure he had a good fake before we had a good running game.
At least visually. Obviously, people have to have a reason to believe it for it to work.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 15, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
He absolutely did
Our play action game was very effective even before we had an actual running game. I remember watching games thinking why would they bite on the play action when we can’t run the ball?
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This is true.
We passed to open up the run.
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he's right, they will. thats will leave alot of 1 on 1 match ups with dre on the outside. i really hope he takes advantage of this opportunity.
this is the best thing that could happen for him. other teams are gonna be paying attention. if he ever wants to be a starter in the league/get a huge contract, heres his chance. if he cant win with this team, with these players and these coaches….game over.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
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Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
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...nice take, brother.
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Good point
I was telling my buddy the same thing. This is Leinart’s last chance to prove he can be a starter in this league again, so I’m optimistic he’s going to give it his all to prove he can. We went down this road before with Rosencopter and it didn’t work out so well, but in all fairness I don’t think he’s got near the skill set as Leinart.
The game plan won’t change. We’ll run the ball to set up the play action and boots. I haven’t seen a pass in our offense that Leinart isn’t capable of making, so it’s all on him. Let’s hope he shines.
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I'm going into deep depression..
who loses their 5 best players to injury for extended periods of time in one season??
i mean…who?…why?
by leacheatsbabies on Nov 14, 2011 8:01 PM CST reply actions
Green Bay last year?
Granted, they probably would’ve been in much much worse shape if one of those players were Rodgers, but they fought through a lot of injuries and so will we.
yeah
but I think it’s important to note that they never lost their qb, regardless of rodgers’ role on the packers compared to schaub’s role on the texans
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 14, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Just for one game against the pats
by RaY210 on Nov 14, 2011 10:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Green Bay would simply evaporate without Rodgers.
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Not true
They might not be SB contenders but Flynn has shown flashes every time he’s had a chance to run the offense, and with the weapons they have at WR I think they would still be competitive.
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Also,
Green Bay didn’t lose what are arguably 3 of its top 5 players for much or all of the season. If the Texans keep rolling, and I think they will, it’ll really say something about this organization.
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No worries, we got this!
The ’72 Dolphins, yeah the undefeated team, lost Griese for the season when he broke his ankle against the Bolts in week 5. An aging Eral Morrall, who was picked up off the waiver wire at the start of the season, came in to mop up the win. He went on to start 11 more games and win 10 of them. Shula replaced him with Griese when the O struggled against the Steelers in the AFC Championship.
Miami had Csonka and Morris who both went over 1000 yds, in a 14 game season. First time ever in the NFL. Foster and Tate are on par to do this. They also had Kiick who was a versatile 3rd down back with good hands. Foster and Casey.
They had a HOF WR in Warfield./ AJ. A slow possesion WR in Twilley./ Walter. A slot WR who could stretch the field in Briscoe,/ Jacoby. All they needed was a QB to manage the games.
Oh, and they had the top rated defense in the league. Sound familiar.
All Lienart has to do is get us to the playoffs w/o effing up. We get a 1 or 2 seed and maybe we get Shaub back in week 19 to finish this thing just like Miami did.
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by Seaborn1 on Nov 14, 2011 8:05 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
rec...for making me feel slightly better
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 1:06 AM CST up reply actions
Just so you guys know
I am really Matt Leinert in disguise. I only come here to look at the booby pics and to get advice on how to run a 4 TE offense. But feel free to ask questions.
good
I am ready to answer your questions then
To what do you attribute
your awesomeness?
by LouisianaTexan on Nov 14, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
my freakish good looks
and ability to talk up hot chicks and head coaches.
Matt, I think you can do better than looking at pictures. Why are you here?
Are you blowing off film study to post at this blog? Back to work, you might still redeem your miserable career with a good showing here.
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here I can enjoy the babes and get strategy too
although I am really missing Rivers film studies this year
Don't slip into old bad habits.
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havent you heard? I have reformed
Isn’t that right girls?….oops
but hey, theres no reason I cant have fun and do my job too
It isnt like I am stepping out like Tiger, or going where I am not wanted like Big Ben
Leinart has Talent
He just never lived up to it.
Reminds me of our Defense last year. The defense got a new coach in Wade Philips, and Lieinart has had a chance to develop by working with Kubiak for a few years. I think it’s reasonable to expect decent play out of him, especially since the rest of the team is playing so well.
I think he fills in nicely until Schaub can return. In fact, I’d be hard pressed to think of a team with a better back up QB situation…
^this
We could have orlovsky, or painter, or skelton, or vy, or,or,or,or.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 8:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I love Sage, but this wouldnt be a good situation for him
We don’t need a risk taker with this team. Let the underdogs take the risks.
wow
If this is career threatening there aren’t exactly any fa qbs to sign. Not sure what to think.
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by jahunter221 on Nov 14, 2011 8:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If anything, he could easily wear an ankle brace for the rest of his career once he recovers
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by The Night Owl on Nov 15, 2011 1:50 AM CST up reply actions
keenum with the 32nd pick
We’ve got to plan for the future. Remember yao?
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 8:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Let's take Keenum with the 132nd pick instead. He'll still be there.
Nose tackle for the first pick, please.
nt yes, but qb yes as well
Keenum is legit. And he won’t still be there
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 8:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Kolb is really damaging Keenum's stock right now.
UH QBs have a pretty bad track record in the NFL overall I’m sorry to say.
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this^^
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 1:09 AM CST up reply actions
No, We must take Dwight Jones with our first pick
We can get a NT in the 2nd round
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by The Night Owl on Nov 15, 2011 1:51 AM CST up reply actions
No
He’s older than you’d want a QB prospect to be….has a history of injuries……arm strength is a question…..as is the fact that he hasn’t played top-tier competition and is in a friendly system.
Kolb struggling also hurts Keenum since they ran the same system.
Keenum’s not in the same class as a Luck, Barkley, or Jones.
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please. jones is way overrated
Does anyone in the big xii (-2) play defense?
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 9:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If that's your argument against Jones...
How does that not kill Keenum since he plays C-USA teams?
"Lord, beer me strength."
that's exactly my argument.
Both benefit from poor defense. If that’s the case, how is jones worthy of the first/second round and keenum not? I argue that the coogs would beat every team in the big xii except ou, osu, and maybe ksu.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 9:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
everything you said about keenum
They said about brady. No power, no style, no mobility, scheme oriented, can’t ad-lib, won’t succeed against nfl defenses.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 9:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
difference is brady played at michigan
and faced tougher teams than keenum. he was also never hurt or as old as keenum.
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 14, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
brady played at michigan
Which plays in the big ten. Which runs 80%behind of the time. Which doesn’t play pass defense. The injury i’ll give you. The age i’ll give you. But the predraft reports aren’t dissimilar.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 10:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure the old thing is such a factor.
QBs seem more like pitchers in baseball to me, they are on a different clock than say a RB.
The system thing, yes, maybe. Since UH is running something like Oregon on speed, you know he’d be a miserable fit in a lot of places.
Injury history yes.
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Oklahoma’s had the 7th toughest schedule. Houston has the 104th.
Top 2 defenses OU has faced:
Florida State – 5th
Texas – 14th
Top 2 UH has faced:
Louisiana Tech – 57th
East Carolina – 58th
And Jones is worthy because he’s younger, healthier, plays more of a proven pro system (see: Bradford, Sam), has a stronger arm, shown more against vastly better competition……I’m feeling disgusting defending a Sooner, but Jones is the better pro prospect.
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by TexansDC on Nov 14, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The funny thing is
it’s hard to know. Will a QB be able to adjust to simply being in the NFL and the speed and intelligence of the defenses. Then, will he be able to keep adjusting, as opponents begin to figure him out.
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what pick did brady get drafted with?
199.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 9:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I guess you forgot that we picked up TJ Yates during the year's draft?
We won’t be drafting another QB unless Schaub’s career is over.
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
i keep hearing the career ending thing
Just going with hypotheticals here
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 9:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It can be career injuring for people who have to run
that’s not going to be an issue for a QB, especially one like Schaub.
so surreal
that you mention career ending, when he finished the freakin game.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
i don't mention
I mentioned that I keep hearing
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 9:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
also
It wasn’t until the next day that they discovered the severity.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 9:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
they discovered it the next day
he played with it that day.
I’m confused if Kubiak knew it was causing him problems, why play him at 23-3?
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
Which is odd.
A fracture would show on XRay.
MRI is soft tissue.
CT scan … I guess it could show more. But if not evident on Xray, it seems that it wouldn’t be that bad.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 14, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
i hope you're right
It is odd though
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 10:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, I just read a stuffy article on LisFranc injuries
but one of the things they displayed were xrays which demonstrated a normal looking foot which, in fact, had a LisFranc problem. They emphasized just how hard it is to diagnose and how many competent foot doctors have missed it on initial diagnosis.
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by Christopher H on Nov 14, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Just posted this below.
And yeah, i am hoping that the doctors just had a missed diagnosis of the severity or its something else all together (that will have him back for the ATL and CIN games)
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by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 10:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The lis-franc thing is odd from what I understand.
Harder to diagnose etc.
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why so hard on keenum?
Imagine what he could do with our wr and a half, and our te’s.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 8:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i figured it was toward vy
I doubted him from day one. Run first quarterbacks don’t make good nfl qbs. I’ll hold judgement on cam. But keenum can really throw the prolate spheroid.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 8:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
also
Opponents still have to play our overall number 3 defense.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 8:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
we give up 16.6 ppg
Come on guys. We could score more than that running the wildcat on every play.
by HTown80 on Nov 14, 2011 8:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Haha I was reading MCM
Those motherfuckers actually believe they have a shot at the division. Those motherfuckers are lucky to be 5-4, and they have to go to Atlanta. Yeah good luck fuckers.
by TheDream34 on Nov 14, 2011 8:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i know. that shit is too annoying.
If they lose to the falcons, who absolutely need a w, they will be 3 games out with 6 to go.
by Dmo_Htx on Nov 14, 2011 8:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i was counting the tiebreaker we got on them right now.
by Dmo_Htx on Nov 14, 2011 8:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well, we're 3-0 in the div already
so we’ll likely have the tiebreaker if we split anyway, they’re 1-2, right?
assuming a tits win on Jan 1
we’re one game ahead.
Assuming both of us beat the hapless Colts, it makes our next game pretty relevant.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
Who is this "hap" person?
What position did he play and when did they lose him?
/wags
jk… stupid joke
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
soooo question...
Wait… you mean we are all okay and not freaking out? and Schaub exact injury is what? OH AND btw what did you guys ever do to that troll earlier…you know the jedi mind trick one….with the titansymbol…just curious…..entertain me please…Calculus is raping me
All I want to do is FAAAARRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMM!!!....and COok.
with our luck
Career ending
Dirt dog pimp
by jahunter221 on Nov 14, 2011 8:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i think all of us have accepted what has happened
and are now looking at things with more calm minds. In terms of the troll things just died down and he realized he wasn’t getting the reactions he wanted so he disappeared. Calculus sucks I’m sorry
The good news is
Leinart is still the 2nd best QB in the division. Foster and Tate form the best running tandem in the league. Opponents can’t stack the box cuz Dre and our TEs will wreak havoc. Oh, and the defense is pretty good too. Bad news is it’s God hates the Texans.
by goomba on Nov 14, 2011 8:39 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
second best?
Leinert
Gabbert
Painter
Locker
By the time we see the Tits again, Hassleback will be holding a clipboard.
Like this...
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Postseason
Our schedule is soft but I can’t say the same for the post season, that worries me more.
BTW anyone notice Dan Orlovsky was on the 2008 Lions and now the 2011 Colts? 0-16 Seems to follow this guy around, hell we got better since he left, bad karma.
Carpe Diem
I root for the Texans
the post season doesn’t worry me.
As much as Schaub deserves it, I just hope AJ is playing in our first playoff game win.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
I've prepared my anus
I’m ready to believe, I don’t care. I’m going to allow my blind fandom take over(like every year).
"We're goin with what we got"
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
by chuckiepoo on Nov 14, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But in all seriousness, I’ve bitched and cried about “never catch a break” every year. Eff it, I’m just gonna strap in for the ride.
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 14, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
I cannot believe you went with the gerbil...
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Before any of your fans go nuts sell stocks and buy bleach read these 5 things on why you should wait 3 weeks
1. Scaub was a game manager type this year meaning that is also Leinart role.
2. You have a bye week and play the Jags and Colts again I believe
3. Andre will help the passing game
4. You have a dominant running game meaning more exp for Tate and Foster meaning your defense will be well rested
5. If all 4 have failed realize the division you are in this year and that the Colts have a record which matches the coaching ability.
If this doesn’t help realize that Foster, Jojo, Tate, Dre is nearly all healthy and your coach isn’t named Caldwell.
{ ZuKeO}
by BobInBlue on Nov 14, 2011 8:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
we know all of this..
no matter how many times I’ve dog Schaub for throwing ducks and looking like he’s playing in quicksand, truth is, the man had one of the best two year stretches in history in terms of passing yards.
I’ll hope against hope that Matt Leinart will step right in for Schaub but I won’t hold my breath
by leacheatsbabies on Nov 14, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Andre Ware
Will help our passing game!! Oliver Luck and Warren Moon have some eligbility left too!@
Carpe Diem
If team's are stupid enough to stack the box and leave the receivers out there one on one
I’ll take it every time.
If Alex Smith can lead a team to 8-1 then Matt Leinart can beat crap teams like Tennessee and Jacksonville.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Nov 14, 2011 9:05 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
I blame Tracy Mcgrady and Yao Ming for this
Ever since those two brittle stiffs came to Houston, sports franchises in this city have been doomed with injuries.
by TheDream34 on Nov 14, 2011 9:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah!
Because We were perennial powerhouses with Calvin Cato, Stevie Frenchfries, Mobley, & MOochie Norris
by Texanation on Nov 14, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
We did win titles with
Pete Chilcutt, Mario Elie, Chucky Brown, and Kenny Smith…
by LouisianaTexan on Nov 14, 2011 10:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lol ya but those weren't our core players
We also had Hakeem & Drexler & kenny smith was money from beyond the arc & made hella clutch shots not to mention otis, maxwell, cassell & horry.
by Texanation on Nov 14, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Drexler came for the second title.
First title team didn’t have him, or Cassell.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
You're right.
First title was his rookie year.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
I remember him going on Letterman and telling the story of how he got blamed for breaking the trophy, since he was the rookie.
by MadMartygan on Nov 14, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of all this
what a terrible day of sports news.
NBA
Schaub
Bleah
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
That was just piling on, today. I heard the news of both at right around the same time.
by MadMartygan on Nov 14, 2011 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
ahhh, pete chilcutt. i liked that guy. i cant remember him ever again after that championship year, but he did good that year.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
Oo
I feel sorry for that stupid bastard that got the Texans win the superbowl tattoo.
Hes probably pretty upset…..
Really?
I’m thinking about doubling up on my AFC Championship bet.
More consolation:
Let PFF ease your worries.
And if that doesn’t work, there’s always Skyrim.
by Nashmeister on Nov 14, 2011 9:07 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
I want Skyrim in a bad way
but PFF works. There’s so much talent around him.
I believe in Matt Leinart to do what we need – make throws to keep defenses honest. This team will rally around Matt Leinart.
"Lord, beer me strength."
re:the article mentions (lack of) pressure
Schaub knows where everyone is, and knows the offense. He gets the ball accurately to the right guy at the right time.
The lack of 5 years in this system worries me in this regard. If there’s a slight hesitation for any reason, now we have pressure where there wasn’t any before.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
~Men think about sex every 7 seconds. Which is why I eat hotdogs in under 6 seconds... So it doesn't get weird.~
April 20, 2002 NEVER FORGET
by Lincoln_Hawk on Nov 14, 2011 9:08 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
I really don't see what the big deal was about this.
If i were in the NFL, I’d have hottubs full of women and K-Y as well.
The beer bong? So what, at least it wasn’t a water bong.
Same here
There’s no law against partying with hoes. I’m curious though, did he nail all four?? If so……HERO
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
A prayer for Schaub.
Please rise. Now sit on it. May teh Schaub be with you.
And also with you.
Let us ayyy.
Ayyyy.
Elaine Benes thinks Arian Foster is sponge-worthy.
I'd like to apologize now
but Matt got injured because I forgot to wear my Texans Jersey. I had a bad feeling about it at the time and now I know it’s not just a crazy superstition.
~Men think about sex every 7 seconds. Which is why I eat hotdogs in under 6 seconds... So it doesn't get weird.~
April 20, 2002 NEVER FORGET
That's very kind of you, but actually
it was because I allowed someone to talk shit about Schaub while I watched the game yesterday and I didn’t murder him.
Elaine Benes thinks Arian Foster is sponge-worthy.
by molloymalone on Nov 14, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
wtf?really?
/disappointed
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions
I hear Kim is available
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 15, 2011 1:56 AM CST up reply actions
here is my response
to a kardashian woman with any texan
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Follow @Joeeatstacos
just the players
I would give props to a fan wrangling a kardashian!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Follow @Joeeatstacos
You don't know their track record do you?
As long as you stick with one, you can win a championship
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 15, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Will him being a left impact out have an influence on our bootlegs other than switching sides to which they will go
by Hstntxns on Nov 14, 2011 9:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
They say that the ball flies differently from a lefty, whatever that means (Coach said something of the sort earlier). Eric Winston now has his blind side. Besides that, should be the same
~Men think about sex every 7 seconds. Which is why I eat hotdogs in under 6 seconds... So it doesn't get weird.~
April 20, 2002 NEVER FORGET
by Lincoln_Hawk on Nov 14, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
There was a point where people thought he could be a franchise QB
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
I hope Schaub recovers 100% from this injury though.
I’ve read it can really effect mobility after recovery, and although Schaub can’t really scramble, his bootleg PA is his best move.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
What're you talking about?!
Teh Schaub has Olympic-like speed and agility!
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
Don't force the sarcasm font
It has potential to be really funny but…
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
There is nothing about this type of injury that isn't recoverable
Antonio Gates is playing with a lisfranc problem right now.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
All I know
is that if there was a team of players that could make almost any qb look good, it’s us. Andre could make kerry collins look like aaron rodgers, and arian foster cuts better than a butterfly knife. plus having some of the best te’s and the best defense in the league always helps
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Nov 14, 2011 9:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Leinart didnt impress in the preseason
as far I can remember he was mediocre at best, I just hope Schaub is back for the playoffs
He was also not playing with the 1's
Let’s see how he does with this O-line and Andre before we write him off.
~Men think about sex every 7 seconds. Which is why I eat hotdogs in under 6 seconds... So it doesn't get weird.~
April 20, 2002 NEVER FORGET
by Lincoln_Hawk on Nov 14, 2011 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
ya he played with the 2nd string o-line and they couldnt give him any time. he played decently when givin time.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 1:26 AM CST up reply actions
He was playing with a line of 3rd stringers and a lot of young WRs battling for spots
It’s a much different line up around him.
"Lord, beer me strength."
yep me to
If anything Schaub was the one looking rusty in the preseason.
Jules=Now I want you to go in that bag and find my wallet
Ringo=which one is it
Jules=the one that says bad mother fucker!
by jtr bmf 281 on Nov 14, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, me too...
For who he was playing with and the situation I remember being pleasantly impressed. I seem to remember one drive where he just walked ’em down the field like he knew what he was doing. Far more competent than my impression of DanO.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
You have him mixed up with Sanchez
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 14, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you guys that his play will improve with the 1's
But his throwing mechanics & his pocket awareness didn’t impress AT ALL, I mean christian ponder was playing with 3rd stringers against us & he was tearing it up
Don't know what games you were watching then because he looked fine to me
He didn’t do anything spectacular but it was the preseason. Did I mention it was the preseason?
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Well I mean he's not curtis painter or blaine gabbert
So I still think we have a chance BUT his pre-season QB rating was 78.3 & his career regular season QB rating is 70.8 & that’s with a legit WR like Fitzgerald so we’ll see how much he’s learned from Kubiak & Schuab, well as of right now he’s what we got so let’s see what he can do, maybe he’ll prove me wrong
I know where you're coming from
I’m worried as hell but I also know we could be WAY worse off. If Kubiak is half the QB guru we think he is then we’ll be fine. Not great, but fine.
The playoffs may be a different story but I’ll worry about that if/when we make it.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I'm still in shock actually
After hearing about teh Schaub going down with a season ending injury & seeing it plastered all over espn depressed the sh*t out of me, I still refuse to believe he’s gone for the season, its just too early & it will help me sleep easier at night.
Same here
I’m holding my breath that we get a “6-8 weeks” update that’ll have him back for the playoffs.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I disagree to be honest
If Leinart can actually execute and maintain our momentum, it might be a disaster to put in Schaub after being out 6-8 weeks. So far it’s been pretty obvious that it takes 4-6 games for anyone returning from being out (injury, suspension, etc) before they are back up to full speed. I don’t think a QB is any different. If they are not taking snaps under center, and executing the timing, taking reads in live games with the rush in their face, it takes time to get back up and running.
Also, if you put in Schaub and he struggles due to being out and needing time, does it deflate Leinart and they both suck for the playoff game and we lose?
Probably not worth the risk in all fairness.
Yep
If the Texans win with Schaubby out for 6 weeks, it doesn’t make sense to rush him back in. Let him fully recover and go back at it during the off-season.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
If you listen to the Michael LaFlamme podcast,
you will know how much he raves about Shaub’s footwork in the run game. He presses the hand off better than anyone, which gives our RBs much more time to find holes. I don’t know if this ability would be there after 4-6 weeks of non weight bearing.
We'll agree to disagree then
I’ll take Schaub back as soon as he’s cleared to play.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Name a player who was out for 6-8 weeks and stepped onto the field
and performed like he was never gone. It doesn’t happen. There’s always a few games needed to get back into “football” shape mentally and physically.
That is why I am depressed
I still think we win the division and make the playoffs, but before the Schaub injury I felt we were legit SB contenders. Now I’m not sure we will make it out of the first round…
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Other teams who felt the same way after losing their starting QB....
Patriots – Tom Brady stepped up and took over
Patriots – Matt Cassel stepped up and moved as starter to KC
Rams – Kurt Warner stepped up (after bagging groceries in a local market)
Ravens – Trent Dilfer replaced Tony Banks and took them to the Superbowl with the league’s best defense and a solid running game (sound familiar)?
I think Leinart is better than Dilfer was. I think Leinart is better than Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Tim Tebow, Curtis Painter, and Blaine Gabbert but we’ll see for sure soon enough.
The list goes on and on. We have to have trust that the coaches saw something in Leinart and that he has matured and developed under Kubiak. I saw a highlight reel of him at AZ where he shredded the Packers with his arm for 3 quick TDs and no running game. Our system doesn’t rely heavily on the QB, so we should be fine. We have to trust in the “system” we have in place and that Leinart is ready to execute in our system.
He just has to run the offense and limit mistakes
Let the rest of the team win the games. Leinart shouldn’t have to push it to win.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Yep, and his coach (Kubiak) was a backup to the legendary Elway
and knows how to mentally and physically prepare Leinart for this role quite well. Vintage Pic:
by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
and a vintage stat too
“The worst and perhaps most humiliating of Elway’s Super Bowl defeats was the one he took at the hands of the 49ers in Super Bowl XXIV. By comparison, Elway’s backup, Gary Kubiak, had a higher passing rating on the day.”
by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Truly humiliating
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Against our third stringers.
I’m not throwing myself off the bridge just yet.
I was at training camp this year, and Leinart did show signs of promise. But again, I’m waiting until we see him against Jacksonville before I pass judgment on him.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
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Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.
by UprootedTexan on Nov 14, 2011 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Not completely. Schaub has missed some practices this year during recovery days off
and Leinart went with the 1’s and looked pretty good according to several sources.
one thing about it tho is leinart will stand in there and make a throw with a defender coming right at him. i do remember him being fearless like that a couple times in pre season.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
Well then.
I hate the world, I hate this board, I hate you guys. Good night, see ya tomorrow.
Hopefully, I don’t wake up in the morning to learn Cushing has super-Aids.
-—————————————————
No more bleach from this point on. We will still make the playoffs and anything is possible in the postseason.
Elaine Benes thinks Arian Foster is sponge-worthy.
Lisfranc joint injuries are rare, complex and often misdiagnosed. Typical signs and symptoms include pain, swelling and the inability to bear weight. Clinically, these injuries vary from mild sprains to fracture-dislocations. The incidence of Lisfranc joint fracture dislocations is one case per 55,000 persons each year. Thus, these injuries account for fewer than 1 percent of all fractures. As many as 20 percent of Lisfranc joint injuries are missed on initial anteroposterior and oblique radiographs. (Per AAFP.org)
So i’m just hoping that the doctor is an idiot… if not it just shows God really does hate the Texans.
He will not be back this season if Lisfranc
From what I read, recovery time is 8-12 weeks at best. Heal well, Mr. Schaub and I hope you can participate in guiding Leinart to take over your team.
"Nothing could, literally, not be more exciting..."
8 weeks?
He should be back for the Super Bowl!
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
by texanphil on Nov 14, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
QB controversy?
if Schaub takes us through the first 10, Leinart takes us through the next 8, who do you play?
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
I suppose Leinart...
and if he struggles we have Schaub to throw in. But you have to play the guy who is “Winning Now” … right?
Coin flip
Sorry but the following is from my Oilers and brief Titan fandom…
I think Moon broke his arm in Minnesota and returned six weeks later for the Wild Card game in Buffalo game. He was effectively tapping that ass until the refs decided it was OK to run out of bounds to get open and catch touchdowns.
THEN-
I believe Wade was coaching the Bills when he decided to replace his redhot Doug Flutie with Doug Johnson in Tennessee. Offense struggled, Jevon Kearse put one of the sickest hits I’ve ever seen on Johnson, Music City Miracle transpired, Bills lose.
QB play is vastly overrated
Only the Texans
could have one of their most important players suffer such an injury.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Leinart gets a chance to show maturity
He’s saying the right things. Just has to prove himself on the field. If indeed Schaub cannot play the rest of the year, he doesn’t have to throw 40 times to win games. Just win, baby
These cowboy media sports gurus in San Antonio
are not as optimistic as we are
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
Look its bad news
But I don’t think people realize how bad this division is. Plus, we’re winning games by running the ball and playing defense. I say 11-5, number 3 seed.
by TheDream34 on Nov 14, 2011 10:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Freudian slip?
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 14, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just upset because of what could have been...
Can Leinart manage the game well enough to get this team to the playoffs? Sure he can…and it will be great to actually be there for once. We all know the defense and the schedule are going to make it worlds easier for him. But man, I had visions of first round byes and AFC championship games dancing in my head. The bye might still be obtainable, but the first foray in to the playoff for the Texans with Leinart at the helm is not going to be pretty.
Guess I shouldn’t be greedy and should just be happy to see the post season. I sure as hell wanted to be though.
Why do you say this to me, when you know I will kill you for it?
Agreed
I would much rather have Schaub under center in the playoffs, if strictly for the fact that he’s got a much greater command of the whole offense.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Since I'm very surprised we didn't see this cliche anywhere.
by MadMartygan on Nov 14, 2011 11:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This is the line from that movie that I’m going to stand by.
by MadMartygan on Nov 14, 2011 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
This?
Media; “It would be the worst disaster the Texans have ever experienced.”
Kubiak; “With all due respect sir, I believe this is going to be our finest hour.”
I’m buying them. They keep stepping up, and who knows, maybe something special happens.
by MadMartygan on Nov 15, 2011 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
I'm more surprised we haven't seen this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 15, 2011 1:58 AM CST up reply actions
The mostly come out at night
MOSTLY!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
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Follow @Joeeatstacos
Alright Leinart.
I’ve been hard on him calling him names and such. Well time to prove me wrong and fill the shoes of Schaub. He needs to throw passes DOWN THE FIELD and if can do so consistently the Texans offense will stay on track.
In Leinart I’m (forced) to trust. Also. Foster, Tate, and the defense will have to step up even more. Hopefully Andre will be back though. And maybe Danieal Manning.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Ok so what's the deal
Some sources say schaub is done for the season, but others say he’s out indefinitely, just want to know
by TheDream34 on Nov 15, 2011 12:24 AM CST via mobile reply actions
It's not confirmed from Kubiak or the Texans because they are waiting on a doctor next week in hopes of getting a better result than season ending.
But based on the reported injury type, it is most likely season ending. Kubiak is hoping a doctor out there can say Shaub can return but when a coach comes on to the podium and says significant injury, it is most likely season ending.
Durga has forsaken us.
I refuse to believe in her any longer.
by morecowbell-lesscowboys on Nov 15, 2011 12:36 AM CST reply actions
see you guys
should be praying to cthulhu instead!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Follow @Joeeatstacos
I'm all ears.
A terrifying alien-thing god has to be better than this crap.
by morecowbell-lesscowboys on Nov 15, 2011 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
make a small donation
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You will be added to our mailing list and receive literature…
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Follow @Joeeatstacos
Is this for real?
Is this real life?
by morecowbell-lesscowboys on Nov 15, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions
MC-LC
I am always down for monies, but the only real literature you will get will be blackmail photos of Kubiaks wife with Petey Faggins
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
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i'll say it again
Schaub has had a down year. If matty ice can put up average numbers we’ll be fine. Joneson, fostate, danielsen, vickasey, and our d will take care of the rest.
by HTown80 on Nov 15, 2011 12:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I agree
All things considered, if you HAD to pick one to lose would it have been Schaub or Foster?
Personally I feel Foster is delivering “#1 RB in the NFL” type performances, and even as good as Tate is, Foster can’t be replaced as easily. Schaub has been bouncing between “below average” to “average” all season. His lack of accuracy has been very inconsistent: too high, too low, behind, or into the hands of DL to get batted down. What he has been doing well is game management execution. The less he was throwing, the better we were doing overall on offense. I’m by no means saying he won’t be missed, but it could be worse in that we are not as dependent on his arm as other teams might be for a QB.
Knowing what I get in Ben Tate
I might go with losing Foster
by brightshinies on Nov 15, 2011 2:04 AM CST up reply actions
I get confused about all this "Matt Schaub is average" talk.
He ranks in the top half in all significant stats. That alone is better than average.
In most stats, he’s in the top third of the league, if not the top five.
I’d much rather lose Foster, but I’m feeling decent about Leinart.
by morecowbell-lesscowboys on Nov 15, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
This is all without having to throw.
Because of Fostate.
Schaub is the man. He’s showed toughness and leadership ability. Went a huge stretch without throwing an interception. Led the league in yards a few years ago.
I think the injury is on Kubiak’s call. I bet anybody’s foot would break in those circumstances.
by morecowbell-lesscowboys on Nov 15, 2011 9:07 AM CST up reply actions
Schuab was getting his shit together though
that with AJ could have led us to 12-4 and doing some massive playoff damage. We’ll see wha Leinart can do though.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Matty Ice is Matt Ryan
Matty Light is Matt “the Lionheart” Leinart
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Get used to it
Go Matty Light!
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 15, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Everyone keeps focusing on the offense but forget htat
we have the number one D! Woo Woo! Ride that train to the Super Bowl!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
So on the ESPN comments
bennyprince
This team will rally around Matt Leinart and continue to play good football.
Schaub is a good game manager but Leinart will extend and make more plays. This could end up being a blessing in disguise….
1 fan likes this.
2 Hours Ago
isn’t that the resident gameday troll? his icon is a colts Luck jersey. He seems like a sane individual on their boards instead of the chronic debbie-downer he is over here.
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Nov 15, 2011 1:15 AM CST reply actions
He admitted to being a troll and only coming here to stir people up
He’s really a Colt and Titan fan.
"Lord, beer me strength."
fuck that guy
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-Catch 22-
colt AND titan fan?
lmao, how does that work?
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 15, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
thanks for saying that.
Gold
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Nov 16, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
We just hate him double, is all
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He is Dain Bramaged...
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
*BOOOM* Headshot...
Is what I felt last night when Kubes had his presser. Now I feel more confident that we’ll atleast stumble into the playoffs. We’ll win atleast 3 more just with the running game but I expect us to loose against the kitties, bengals and falcons now.
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In our defense I trust.
Yup I just typed that totally sober.
by Fastalkerus_Prime on Nov 15, 2011 2:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
In our defense I trust.
Yup I just typed that totally sober.
by Fastalkerus_Prime on Nov 15, 2011 2:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
AllenOU'd
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Credit to Rick Smith for getting Leinart re-signed this offseason.
He may not be Schaub, but I don’t see a better option for a backup we could have had. Anyone else and I’d fear our season is completely down the drain. Kubiak seems comfortable with Leinart, which makes me feel more comfortable with him.
^
yup.
Michael: The feeling that you're feeling is what many of us call...a feeling.
Gob: It's not like envy, or even hungry...
Afc qbs that see clear cuts above lienart
Big ben n brady! Thats it, not sanchez, dalton, fitzpatrick, flacco, out rivers this year…
by Hstntxns on Nov 15, 2011 8:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I dunno
Dalton is playing at a pretty high level, Fitzpatrick has had a drop off lately but he was on fire the first half of the year, and I’ll take Rivers any day.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Not lately, Phillips Rivers has been an interception throwing machine
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 15, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
“That’s something I’ve always been comfortable with, in college we ran (bootleg) all the time, as much as we do here,” he said. "And it’s part of the reason why I love this offense so much.
last game our boot plays weren’t that effective against jax, but since we will be going the opposite way most of the time now.. i’m excited about the big plays that can be had.
nobody is saying that we won’t miss Matt V1.0. but the more i think about it, the more i’m intrigued. here’s a guy with a chip on his shoulder something to prove an opportunity to change the perception of himself, and since Matt V1.0 has been fairly gimpy this year, i would imagine Matt V2.0 has been hyper aware of the obvious fact that he may be called upon to play. I look at it like this. as it is, the texans are like a fancy new plane. it would be awesome if you had a navy seals pilot, but a commercial airline pilot aint bad either.
Samuel L. Jackson voice
just fly the mutha f$#%(@ plane Leinhart.
Michael: The feeling that you're feeling is what many of us call...a feeling.
Gob: It's not like envy, or even hungry...
hey now
commercial airline pilots >>>>> navy seals pilots. The seals have actual pilots fly them around.
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
Watching USC footage on YouTube...
I’m feeling a bit more confident in Leinart. A lot of those successful plays came on play action and rollouts in Pete Carroll’s West Coast offense….as opposed to his time in Arizona which was run in Ken Weisnhunt and Todd Haley’s craptastic scheme.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Do you guys think fat albert is happy
by Hstntxns on Nov 15, 2011 8:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Has anyone found a clip showing him injuring Schaub?
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 15, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions
The foot injury.
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 15, 2011 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
He rolled over trying to get back up on a few of those plays when he fell down
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Can we have a separate thread for just the newbs?
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haha, made a wrong turn...
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i woke up too "Texans should sign Brett Favre"
someone shoot me now..
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 15, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard
To anyone suggesting that I ask, how would Favre help this team??
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
by Hydroshock on Nov 15, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If Leinart has an awesome game against the Jags
Nothing could help keep the Kardashians from invading
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 15, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure if this was asked as I have not read all the comments,
but I just would like to know how Leinart’s arm strength compares to Schaub’s. When you guys mention the guy has talent, what are these said talents? What are his strengths?
Nutt'd?
In practice with the 1’s Leinart has been more accurate than Schaub who has been off target since about the middle of last season (some of us suspect an unmentioned rotator-cuff injury). In pre-season, Leinart had the 3rd string OL (2nd’s were all on I/R) and didn’t have enough protection to show his ability.
He loves the bootleg and play action systems, and has thrown some deep passes in practice with the 1’s that actually led receivers vs Schaub who would often under throw them allowing the defense to catch up to them for a red zone tackle.
In AZ, Leinart was unliked by his head coach and was immature and forced to play a traditional pocket passer system without a good OL and no running game. He still managed to display some sparks of talent by shredding the Packers for three quick touchdowns in one game. I have confidence in Kubiak and that he has develoed Leinart to shine in this system. I know we all hope that is certainly the case.
Yep, just follow the recipe and it will work out
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
He doesn't have a rocket arm either
But he can put it in there if he has to.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
...and with a much lower body count on him.
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Do you need confirmation, or is there something you know about Curtis Painter that you're not telling us?
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It is Matty Light time!
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 15, 2011 10:20 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
i rec'd this
bc this is the nickname I used for Leinart ever since he got here last season
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 15, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
It needs to stick
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 15, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I know
But get used to it :P
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"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 15, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"
by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 10:37 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
Rec
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 15, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
"How far do you think we can get on one engine?"
“All the way to the scene of the crash…”
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
Can you fly this plane and land it?
Surely you can’t be serious!
I am serious…and don’t call me Shirley.
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by Taco Joe on Nov 15, 2011 10:40 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
that is what i meant!
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Good report
“Their running game and defense will protect the young QB”. Too bad the graphics dept couldn’t get the right jersey number for Leinart, it’s #11 now, not #9. Catch up ESPN!
I need the TDH!!!!!!!
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game manager
His completion percentage and rating really aren’t much different than two other qb’s whose teams have had recent sucsess, Alex smith and mark sanchez. He doesn’t have to win games. Just don’t lose them. He will have a much better running game as well as much better protection here than he had in arizona, and he has had time to mature as well as learn from a great qb teacher in kubiak. And as herm says this system fits his style much better.
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by jahunter221 on Nov 15, 2011 10:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions
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