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2DH: Putting The Defense In The Hot Tub With Matt Leinart

Two-day-hangover_medium In 2006, the Texans signed free agent QB Sage J. Rosenfels.  Rosenfels had been a fourth-round pick of the Washington Redskins in 2001, but failed to make the team, and was released and was later signed by the Miami Dolphins.  In four years in Miami, Rosenfels appeared in 13 games, starting (and losing) two.  He left South Beach with a 49.5% completion percentage, 6 TDs and 6 INTs, and 776 passing yards.  Rosenfels' first season in Houston saw him appear in four games, starting none, and he threw for 265 yards, 3 TDs, and 1 INT.

Cumulatively, Rosenfels entered the 2007 season with the following line: 0 wins, 2 losses, 81 completions, 148  attempts, 1,041 yards, 9 TDs, and 7 INTs.  Given that he'd compiled this resume over five NFL seasons, it's not hyperbole at all to say that he'd shown nothing to suggest that he could be an NFL starter, even in limited duty.  Yet, forced into five starts in 2007, Rosenfels went 4-1, throwing for 951 yards, 8 TDs, and 6 INTs in his starts.  Overall that year, he completed 64.2% of his passes for 1,684 yards, 15 TDs, and 12 INTs.

The following year, Rosenfels was in his third year under Gary Kubiak, and Sage was again forced to start five games.  While he'd feasted on Oakland, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, and Denver in 2007, the 2008 schedule had Rosenfels facing Indianapolis twice (he'd lost to them once in 2007), Baltimore (who would go 11-5), Cleveland, and Jacksonville.  Rosenfels lost to the Colts and the Ravens, but beat the Browns and Jaguars.  That is, he lost to the very good teams, but beat the bad ones (Cleveland and Jacksonville combined for 9 wins in 2008).

All told, in his time with Houston, Rosenfels went 6-4 as a starter, and he totaled 3,380 yards, 24 TDs, and 23 INTs.  Based on this performance, he was highly sought after by teams needing a QB, and was ultimately sent to Minnesota for a fourth-round pick.  Where he promptly failed to beat out Tarvaris Jackson as the starter.  Rosenfels literally has not thrown a regular season NFL pass since being traded.

Why do I mention all of this?  Well, I suppose you are just going to have to take the jump to find out.

Star-divide

Compare Sage Rosenfels' pre-2007 resume with that of one Matthew Stephen Leinart prior to landing in Houston.  As a rookie in Arizona, the first-round pick started 11 games, going 4-7 on a team that would only win five games total that year, and winning four of the Cardinals' last six games (three of them against division rivals).  He completed 56.8% of his passes for 2,547 yards, 11 TDs, and 12 INTs. While his season was not going to make Cardinals fans forget about Jim Hart or even Jake Plummer, Leinart had at least showed signs that he could be an NFL starter, even setting an NFL rookie record with 405 passing yards in a game against the Minnesota Vikings.

Leinart entered 2007 as the presumptive starter in Arizona.   HC Ken Whisenhunt and OC Todd Haley had replaced  Denny Green and Keith Rowen, however, and the new "brain trust" came up with a plan to use Kurt Warner as a situational QB, rotating him in every few series, almost like a relief pitcher.  As a second-year QB --- one who had ended the previous season on a high note --- Leinart was (somewhat understandably) upset by this.  Unfortunately for Leinart, a broken collarbone ended his season in Week 5, at which time Warner took the reins in Arizona for good.  Leinart started no games in 2008, when the Cardinals snuck into the playoffs at 9-7 before losing in the Super Bowl, and he started only once in 2009.

I am not going to sit here and try to convince you that Matt Leinart is likely to become a superstar now that he's being given a chance.  That would be silly.  I would argue, however, that (a) Leinart is more talented than Sage Rosenfels was at this point in his career and (b) the evidence suggests that Sage Rosenfels' success (such as it was) was due almost entirely to being put in a good situation with a very good QB-minded coach and a great WR.  

Now, when you factor in that Sage Rosenfels never had a defense like the 2011 Texans' defense to bail him out or keep the game from turning into a shootout, nor did Rosenfels have Arian Foster (Steve Slaton, on his best day, was not Arian Foster), and the prospect of Matt Leinart quarterbacking this team for the remainder of 2011, including the playoffs, is not as bone-chilling as some are making it out to seem.

I know the knock about Leinart, other than his hot-tub-frat-boy persona, is that he lacks a strong arm.  That's a legit complaint, but I don't know that it matters much in this offense.  After all, the 158 yards in the two TDs passes to Jacoby Jones and Arian Foster on Sunday traveled a combined 35 yards or so in the air.  It's rare that Matt Schaub really airs the ball out, and no one would ever accuse him of having a cannon for an arm.  Maybe having Leinart under center means that you eliminate some of the deep tries to Kevin Walter, but that is more than offset by the fact that Andre Johnson will be available as a target.  Fact is, the offense that the Texans run is pretty similar to what Leinart ran at USC --- roll-outs, play-action, West Coast passing game, bolstered by a quality running game.  You really couldn't ask for a better situation for Matt Leinart to prove whether he can be an NFL QB.

Do I think Matt Leinart will take the Texans to the Super Bowl?  If I'm being honest with myself, probably not.  But, at the same time, I don't think that he can't lead them there.  And I certainly don't think that having him take snaps in January is a guaranteed one-and-done in the playoffs.  So, while it's not ideal to lose Schaub now, it's far from signaling some sort of requiem on our postseason dreams.

To put it a different way, it's entirely possible that the sky will fall ... but let's wait until we see some chunks hit the ground before we decide that it is.

On to the Hangover...

80.

Length in yards of Jacoby Jones's TD catch, the longest in team history.  That's right: Jacoby Jones holds the team record for the longest TD catch.  And, if that's not weird enough, as we discussed a few weeks back, the longest catch in team history remains Corey Bradford's 81-yard grab in 2002 against Buffalo.

78.

Length in yards of Arian Foster's TD catch against the Bucs.  This is, of course, his second 78-yard TD catch this season (the other was against the Titans, in case you just awoke from a coma or something).  The top-five longest TD receptions in Texans' history look like this:

  1. Jacoby Jones (80 yards v. Tampa Bay, 2011)
  2. Corey Bradford (78 yards v. Miami, 2003)
  3. Arian Foster (78 yards v. Tennessee, 2011)
  4. Arian Foster (78 yards v. Tampa Bay, 2011)
  5. Andre Johnson (77 yards v. Kansas City, 2007)

2.

Number of running backs in NFL history to have two TD receptions of 70+ yards in one season: Arian Foster and some dude named Walter Payton.

583.

Number of rushing yards needed by Arian Foster to pass Domanick Williams (nee Davis) for first all-time in Texans' history.  Given the increased reliance on the running game that is likely to occur, the fact that Foster has averaged 166.5/game against the Colts and 116/game against the Jaguars, and the fact that the Panthers are allowing 137.6 rushing yards/game, you have to like Foster's odds of getting the 583 (97.2/game) before season's end.

7.

Career forced fumbles for DeMeco Ryans, pushing him past Dunta Robinson for second all-time in team history.  Mario Williams is first all-time with 11.

6.

Career interceptions by Brian Cushing, tying him with Jason Allen (6 as a Texan) for 4th in team history.

49.

Pounds given up by Johnathan Joseph in his encounter with Kellen Winslow, Jr. on Sunday.  You know, the encounter that broke up a pass, gave Brian Cushing a gift INT (great catch), and left Winslow limping off the field while JoJo high-fived his teammates.  JoJo hits people and they stay hit.

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Con Law With Kevin Bacon.

Apparently, they remade Footloose, thus proving once and for all that Hollywood has run out of ideas.  (We should have suspected this already, what with the existence of 2002's Rollerball remake that completely missed the point of the original film, but I digress.)

When I heard about the Footloose reboot, my brain was forced to think about that movie for the first time more than two decades.  I pondered the whole plot for roughly 4.8 seconds when it dawned on me that the entire premise of the movie --- the banning of rock music and dancing --- was grossly unconstitutional.  

You see, since well before the first Footloose was made, the Supreme Court has taken a dim view of laws that would categorically ban certain forms of entertainment. As the Court said in Schad v. Mt. Ephraim, 452 U.S. 61 (1981), "Entertainment, as well as political and ideological speech, is protected; motion pictures, programs broadcast by radio and television, and live entertainment, such as musical and dramatic works, fall within the First Amendment guarantee." Moreover, by banning only "rock and roll" music and not all music (assuming, momentarily, that such a law would not be facially unconstitutional), the government of (fictional) Bomont, Utah, would be engaging in regulation of free speech that was not viewpoint neutral. See, generally, Legal Services Corp. v. Velazquez, 531 U.S. 535 (2001) (holding that the government may not engage in viewpoint-based restriction of private speech).

Then you've got another problem under the First Amendment, as the law would also violate the right to freedom of assembly.  " It is beyond debate that freedom to engage in association for the advancement of beliefs and ideas is an inseparable aspect of the 'liberty' assured by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which embraces freedom of speech." NAACP v. Patterson, 357 U.S. 449 (1958). "Of course, it is immaterial whether the beliefs sought to be advanced by association pertain to political, economic, religious or cultural matters, and state action which may have the effect of curtailing the freedom to associate is subject to the closest scrutiny." Id.

Now, maybe, if you suspend your disbelief enough, the fact that the underlying rules were unconstitutional is not fatal to the first Footloose film.  After all, 1984 was a different time, and it predated a lot of the jurisprudence that makes the conclusions here seem so clear.  In the case of the remake, however, given how litigious society is (to say nothing of the various third-party groups that would be chomping to take this law to court)?  That's a different story altogether, and that absurdity alone should be enough to keep anyone from claiming to enjoy the remake.

Tangent: If you know someone who says he or she enjoyed the remake, you should never speak to that person again.  

107.

Point differential for your Houston Texans in 2011.  This is the best differential in the AFC by a fairly wide margin: Baltimore is #2 with +73.  The only team better than the Texans in terms of differential is the Green Bay Packers who, following Monday's throttling of the Vikings, sit at +134.

5.9; 75.8; .4.

Average line (catches, yards, TDs) for Larry Fitzgerald in games that Matt Leinart started in Arizona.  For comparison, know that Fitzgerald's career average line is 5.6; 76.9;  .6.

5.6; 58.2; .5.

Average line for Anquan Boldin in games that Matt Leinart started in Arizona.  For comparison, know that Boldin's career average line in Arizona was 6.2; 79.2; .5.

4.

Number of times your Houston Texans appear in the top five on the NFL.com Team Stats page.

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Viva Wade!

Math.

Per a commercial that I just saw, Dave and Buster's new tagline is, apparently, "Fun x Awesome - Lame x Awesome."  Now, they didn't give us a full equation, but, for purposes of this nugget of silliness, I am going to assume the original equation is supposed to "equal" Dave & Buster's.  So, working through our equation:

Fun x Awesome - Lame x Awesome = D&B

(Fun x Awesome) - (Lame x Awesome) = D&B

(Fun x Awesome) = D&B + (Lame x Awesome)

Fun = (D&B/Awesome) + Lame

That is, Fun equals dividing D&B by Awesome then adding Lameness.

Uh ... yeah.

3.

Number of Texans running backs who scored a rushing TD on Sunday.  This was the first time in team history that three different RBs have scored rushing TDs in the same game.  Rushing TDs by three different players have occurred in two games for the Texans: against Cleveland this season (Schaub, Ben Tate, Foster) and against the Broncos on December 13, 2007 (Rosenfels, Ron Dayne, Vonta Leach).

4. 

Consecutive games in which the Texans' defense has held opponents under 100 yards rushing.  In ten games this year, the Texans have allowed over 100 yards rushing in only four of them.

4.

Consecutive games in which the Texans' defense has held opponents under 200 yards passing.  In ten games this year, the Texans have allowed over 200 yards passing in only two of them.

November 23, 2008.

The last time your Houston Texans forced at least four turnovers in a game as they did on Sunday.  (They had five that day against the Browns.)

PSYCHE!

My daughter is almost four years old, and I've been forcing her to listen to random factoids about astronomy for almost four years.  At this point, she actually asks questions about things she sees in the night sky, so that's kinda cool.

Anyway, Friday night, we had to make a run to Kroger.  As we walked outside, she noticed a bright spot to the upper right of the moon.

Her: "What star is that?

Me: "That's not a star.  That's Jupiter.  It's a planet."

Her: /nodding

Flash forward thirty minutes.  We're leaving Kroger, and we arrive at the car the same time the woman parked next to us arrives at hers.  Sophia asks the woman, "Hey, do you see that bright star?"  The woman, apparently not blind, responds, "Yes" and smiles at Sophia.  Sophia then gets an evil grin and says, "That's not a star! It's Jupiter! A planet!"

The woman, not a fan of Sophia's ruse, stops smiling and gets in her car without another word.

I'm so proud of that kid sometimes.

Compare And Contrast.

Through their first seven starts:

Vince Young (3-4): 80-173 (46.2%), 5 TD pass, 7 INT, 12 sacks, 5 fumbles, 38 carries for 201 yards, 3 rush TDs.

Tim Tebow (4-3): 83-176 (47.2%), 10 TD pass, 4 INT, 20 sacks, 6 fumbles, 72 carries for 482 yards, 4 rush TDs.

Just keep this in mind --- and recall the myriad articles in 2006 and 2007 about how Vince Young was going to be a legit NFL QB --- every time you hear someone praise Tim Tebow as an NFL QB.

Pardon Me For A Moment While I Put This Hangover On Autopilot And Let Tennessee Do My Work For Me.

On Tuesday night, 21-year-old Erica Wilson of Rogersville, Tennessee and 32-year-old Jesse Brooks were arguing about their relationship status. Jesse had touched Erica suggestively and told her that he, quote, "wanted her." She told him that she, quote, "wanted a relationship and didn't want to be a BOOTY CALL." Ready for the TWIST? Erica and Jesse are . . . wait for it . . . FIRST COUSINS.

Well done, Tennessee.

[***]

Jesse allegedly pushed over Erica . . . she grabbed a pair of scissors and STABBED HIM in the face, neck, arms, and back. When the cops came to break things up, both of them smelled of alcohol . . . and they admitted they'd been drinking, quote, "significant amounts" of Everclear GRAIN ALCOHOL.

[Note: The punctuation of this story makes my eyes bleed, but the tale was too good to let that stop me from posting it. I would just add, however, that overuse of ALL CAPS and ellipses means that the terrorists have won.]

90.

Difference in points scored by the Houston Texans (132) and allowed by them (42) since the loss in Baltimore.

Unnecessary Archer Quote.

"Barry, does this make up for Framboise? It does, Other Barry. It sure does."

0.

Number of times prior to 2011 that the Texans have held opponents to fewer than 50 combined points over a four-game stretch.  They've come close (i.e. fewer than 60 combined points allowed) four times:

 

  • 50 points allowed (2-2 record over that span) from weeks 14 through 17, 2004.
  • 52 points allowed (2-2) from weeks 12 through 15, 2002.
  • 56 points allowed (4-0) from weeks 12 through 15, 2008.
  • 59 points allowed (2-2) from weeks 7 though 10, 2006.

Bonus facts about this: Three of the opponents in Houston's current four-game run were opponents in at least two of the previous sub-60-points stretches.  Jacksonville was involved in 2004, 2006 (twice!), and 2008; Cleveland in 2004 and 2008; and Tennessee in 2006 and 2008.

28.

Margin of victory on Sunday against Tampa Bay, the third-highest margin of victory in Texans history behind the 34-point drubbing of Tennessee earlier this year and a 29-point defeat of the Bengals in 2008.  Sunday was also the third game this season in which the Texans have outscored their opponent by at least 20 points, tying the 2009 team for the most such victories.  2009 and 2011 are the only seasons in which the Texans have had more than one win of 20 points or more; they had one in 2010, 2008, 2006, and 2004, and none in the other seasons.

DORF!

"When it rains, it sometimes comes down in a monsoon." --Dan Dierdorf during the Ravens-Seahawks game, butchering both the verbiage and the meaning of a well-known idiom while discussing Marshawn Lynch.

9.

Consecutive games in which the Texans' defense has snagged at least one interception. Dating back to last season, the defense has picked off a pass in 12 of the past 13 games, with the season opener against the Colts being the lone exception.

8.

With the win over Tampa Bay pushing the all-time series with them to 2-1 in favor of the Texans, Houston now has a winning record against eight NFL teams: Tampa Bay, Jacksonville (10-9), Miami (6-0), Kansas City (3-2), Oakland (5-2), Cleveland (4-3), Chicago (2-0), and Carolina (2-0).

Fun Facts About Matt Leinart (College Edition).

Career Numbers: 64.8% completion, 10,693 yards, 99 TD, 23 INT.  (The TD total remains a Pac-12 record and the completion percentage is third best all-time in conference history.)

In 2005, Leinart led NCAA FBS quarterbacks in passing yards, passing completion, and passing attempts, and he was second in passing TDs.

Leinart led NCAA FBS quarterbacks in passing TDs in 2003 and 2004.

Quick Question.

If all scoring plays are reviewed by the replay official and are, therefore, not subject to a coach's challenge, then why is it "unsportsmanlike conduct" if a coach messes up and throws the flag?  I mean, it doesn't delay the game any.  More importantly, in any other situation, if a coach tries to challenge something that is not reviewable, the official just gives him back the flag, tells the coach that he can't challenge that call, and moves on.  I cannot think of a single reason why accidentally challenging a scoring play should be a 15-yard penalty.

27.

Remaining number of catches Derrick Mason needs to make as a member of the Houston Texans before he costs the Texans a 7th Round draft pick.  Which means that, as of right now, that heads-up prevention of Aqib Talib's goalline INT on Sunday cost the Texans nothing in the trade.

33:51.

Time of possession for your Houston Texans in 2011, best in the league.

11.

Turnover margin for the 2011 Houston Texans, best in the AFC and tied with the Packers for second-best in the league behind the 49ers 13.

31%.

Opponents' third-down success percentage against the Texans this season, tied with the Jets for best in the AFC.  (That's per NFL.com.  Technically, the Jets are at 31.3% while the Texans are at 31.4%, but whatever.) 

Random '90s Rap Video.

Marijuana Pepsi Sawyer Inexplicable Decision Of The Week

[Author's note: It's a sad day in Two-Day Hangover Land. It seems that Marijuana Pepsi Sawyer has gotten married and changed the name on her public profile to the much more professional sounding, "Marijuana Sawyer-Clardy." Dang. Thankfully, we have a long memory around here, at least when it comes to stuff like this, so we'll just forge ahead and pretend like nothing has changed.]

Much like the decision to name your daughter "Marijuana Pepsi," the Atlanta Falcons' decision to try to run right up the middle on fourth down in overtime was baffling.  Don't get me wrong: it was absolutely the right call to go for it in that situation, but running the most obvious play in the entire universe is probably not the best way to go about such things.  A QB sneak --- remember, Matt Ryan is 6-5 --- would have made MUCH more sense.  At the very least, if you are dead-set on running Michael Turner there, put an extra TE in the game rather than having Roddy White as the extra blocker on the strong side.

TXT MSGs Of The Week.

Rivers:

Dumpoff passes going nowhere might be my favorite part of this defense.  After years of uncovered Frank Bush receptions, it just warms my icy heart.

DreKeem (following Kubiak's challenge of Talib's interception):

You know our defense probably would have just forced a safety anyway.  Offense gets the ball back, scores.  9 points instead of 3?  What a shitty challenge. :)

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Thank you!!!

I thought it would never get here….

"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster

by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 3:37 PM CST reply actions  

As soon as I head the news I said to myself "next man up"

Leinart is in a prime position to rebuild his career. I believe he will do so…

by UTBawse23 on Nov 15, 2011 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

Don't forget to bring a towel!

How about I Punch-a-size your face for free! - Rod Farva

by distant_texans_fan on Nov 16, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I may be the only one

But I have absolutely no problem with a pro quarterback or anyone else being in a hot tub with a bunch of chicks. Can someone explain exactly what the problem is?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

There isn't a problem with it

if he was playing well, since he wasn’t playing well at the time they blamed his play on his lifestyle.

by Bobbythegreat on Nov 16, 2011 2:20 AM CST up reply actions  

He became too Hollywood...

In love with himself. Hollywood is fine for Hollywood people, they just act. If their skills get rusty they crack open a DVD and watch themselves in action…Leinart can’t pop in a USC DVD and rediscover the magic, he’s gotta get his ass on the field and work. Can’t do that if you’re in hot tubs or sipping champagne all week with some hot blonde. His head got swollen, that’s all. 1st rounder, Heisman trophy winner, millionaire…I think his head has returned to normal size though, I think he will do well.

by Peckerwood on Nov 16, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Getting into a hot tub with a bunch of chicks

Besides being awesome, has literally nothing to do with how well a person plays in the NFL. He’s an adult. He can do whatever he wants away from the field, as long as it’s legal.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Notice...

I didn’t say jack shit about him being in a hot tub being the sole factor of his shitty play. The theme of my comment was that he wasn’t doing the work on the field.

by Peckerwood on Nov 16, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Fine, but you did say that

you can’t rediscover the magic unless you’re working and you can’t work “if you’re in hot tubs…” And my point is that being in hot tubs with chicks has nothing to do with it and you very well can be a good quarterback, work your ass off and still spend time in hot tubs with chicks.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 16, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

"you very well can be a good quarterback, work your ass off and still spend time in hot tubs with chicks."

I knew I should’ve gone to the NFL instead of law school. The number of chicks who want to hang out in a hot tub with a lawyer is much lower.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

That depends on if they are trying to break a pre-nup or not...

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 16, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

FIFY
‘Cause when she leave yo’ ass, she gon’ leave with half

or more/

/knows it ruins the “rhyme,” but in the name of “keeping it real” feels it necessary to point this out

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 16, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

I should’ve gone into family law.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

No money in it

great stories to write future memoirs about (changing the names to protect the innocent), but NO money in it at all.

Unless you work the 90210 type zips.

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by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem is...

it was him in that tub and not me.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 8:10 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Considering she came up to me this weekend

and said “BEARCLAW! RAWR!” I don’t think Clerks would be the thing that ruins her.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Great stuff as always MDC

So the whole derrick mason thing might work out. I really cannot see him getting 27 more catches, espeically with Andre back. So we keep our 7th rounder and a nice fuck you very much to the jets. I did not get the unsportmanslike conduct thing either but we were beating them so bad he really did not matter. Atleast kubes knows now and won’t do it doing the playoffs that might cost us a game.

by southpaw70 on Nov 15, 2011 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah.

I don’t see him getting 4+ catches/game the rest of the way. And if Sunday’s flag on the challenge prevents the same mistake en route to the Super Bowl, then I suppose it was a small price to pay. Still doesn’t make any damned sense, though.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 7:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The tricky bit is that both the Moon and the planets move around the sky

So you can’t really pin them down to any one location. With Venus, at least, you know it will never be too far away from the Sun (because it’s inside our orbit), so you know a lot of places it can’t be.

by ChrisZ on Nov 15, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

For those with a smartphone, there's a fantastic app called Google Sky Map.

Just point your phone at the sky and it’ll show you what stars, planets, constellations and Messier objects you’re looking at.

GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.

by Synchysi on Nov 15, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I fucking LOVE

Google Sky Maps. It was the first app I downloaded when I switched to Droid.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm sorry, but that app MUST be powered by some form of dark magic

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha.

Damn GPS satellites! And calculus!

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I keep waiting...

…for them to come up with an overlay of my backyard showing where the last three years bones are buried. I know I can’t remember where they all are.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I asked Elvis

According to him, most are at least 20 feet from the usual poop spots, 20 feet from any pee spots made by other dogs, and 5 feet from any of the other dogs’ toys.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Tell Elvis I said it was okay to show you the secret shake...

And I don’t mean “hand” shake…

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, there ARE consequences...

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm fine with that.

He’s still more sanitary than my teenager.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I keep saying...

…that if they’d install a roll of toilet paper in the back yard, they’d be a lot happier, but they keep insisting that I’d just grab an end and then do laps.
Okay, that IS what I’d do… But still…

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Dillo

You’re not really a dog, gotta say….

"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster

by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

/sniffs own butt

I beg to differ…

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't start bragging about being able to lick your balls...

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Nov 15, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No brag just fact...

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

TL;DR

Kidding, but seriously, BE-SFs are going NUTS on their blog about this. Some of them are even claiming to be favorites of the AFC South now… One of them bet 75$ on an 800+ line that still suggest the Texans are favorites. Does it increase their odds of winning the AFC South? Yeah, but not by leaps and bounds like they’re suggesting. Ridiculousnessesity…

by Bennyscrap on Nov 15, 2011 4:02 PM CST reply actions  

Meth is a helluva drug.

Their team is shit. They act like our losing Schaub somehow hides the fact that they have no offense.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

How sad is is that we have lost 2 of our star players for the year (possibly), two for at least 6 games, and another for 3 games earlier this year and we are STILL better than them? Can you imagine how good we would be if God didn’t hate us?

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Nov 15, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

This.

Matt Shaub being in a boot isn’t going to suddenly make Hassleback five years younger or Chris Johnson give a fuck. Those boys might wanna worry about their own backyard before they come poking around ours.

by JMFC on Nov 15, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Once they lose this weekend

They will effectively be down 3 with 6 to go. Unless the Texans sign me to play QB, I think we are in good shape.

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Nov 15, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus plus

Their schedule is much more difficult than ours.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot

by bigfatdrunk on Nov 15, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

truth

They play IN Atlanta, while we get to host the Dirty Birds. HUGE difference

(use of ALL CAPS done intentionally to piss off MDC)

by grungedave on Nov 15, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

REALLY?

I DID NOT KNOW THAT ABOUT HIM.

Also, we get to play the BE-SFs, which is an easy win.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot

by bigfatdrunk on Nov 15, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Sparing use of caps

doesn’t bother me at all. That TN story used them IN EVERY PARAGRAPH TO ACCENTUATE THE PUNCH LINE1

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think you

Could get Andre the ball 6 times a game

by LouisianaTexan on Nov 15, 2011 8:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Random '90s Rap Video.

Mmm, ain’t this some isssssssssssssssssssssh…. pull up in the C-A D-I, Double-L, with ah A-C, A-C oooooooooooh! <— excellent speller.

Michael: The feeling that you're feeling is what many of us call...a feeling.
Gob: It's not like envy, or even hungry...

by chrisd21 on Nov 15, 2011 4:10 PM CST reply actions  

great song

i will beat the sh#t outta anybody who says matt leinart wont get us at least into the playoffs. Beat. The. Sh#t. outta you.

by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

A regular on my pandora account.

My ear drums go deft when I get out of my car.

The Texan Floater, you wanna flush it but you can't.
Wade Aid Is the Best Drink in the League.
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"
Whitest, I ment Meanest Front Seven in Football.

by WreckNTexan on Nov 15, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

"Well, I suppose you are just going to have to take the jump to find out."

I took a dump, too. Just in case.

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot

by bigfatdrunk on Nov 15, 2011 4:11 PM CST reply actions  

hashtag random..

Michael: The feeling that you're feeling is what many of us call...a feeling.
Gob: It's not like envy, or even hungry...

by chrisd21 on Nov 15, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

So, you trying to tell us you're light on your feet?

Ready to make the jump?

"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster

by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

You love to play that toilet card

Whether on BRB radio or now :P

"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 15, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I would just like to add a small tidbit to the Rosenfels hysterectomy

In 2009 he was acquired by Minnesota to apparently do battle with Tarvaris Jackson for the starting spot, however that idea was shelved when Brad Childress brought his sexting buddy Brent Favre in to “assume” that position, as Rosenfels was unceremoniously demoted to 3rd string. So, he never really had a chance to compete for the starting spot.

"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster

by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 4:41 PM CST reply actions  

Sure he could have...

…all he had to do was steal the pictures that Bart Farvrer had of Childress with farm animals in the shower.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Aaak

Too appropriate.

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 5:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Good stuff as usual, however

the section on 80 confused me a bit. If Jacoby now has the franchise record of an 80 yard reception, then how is Bradford’s 81 yarder 2nd?

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Nov 15, 2011 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

I think it had something to do with a TD

"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster

by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

jones is longest td reception

Bradfords is just longest reception

CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON

by Carter Liles on Nov 15, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Correctamundo.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

cowert and herm edwards

giving some texan love

CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON

by Carter Liles on Nov 15, 2011 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

Uh... "Kubiak would NOT confirm..."

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

These are not the metatarsals you are looking for

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

my bad. I read "would" instead of "wouldn't"

I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali

by steelblue on Nov 15, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Bravo, MDC.

Rec’d.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Nov 15, 2011 5:05 PM CST reply actions  

more evidence that Corey Bradford sucked

He can’t even find the end zone after an 81 yard reception. Pathetic.

by grungedave on Nov 15, 2011 5:12 PM CST reply actions  

So was anyone else embarrassed by the penalty

Kubes got for throwing a challenge flag on a scoring play?

Ill admit that at first I yelled “throw the flag thats bullshit!”
Then I said “oh ya its a scoring play, theyll look it” 3 seconds later.

Shouldnt Kubes have thought the same thing??? Im just a fan!

Season Prediction v2.5.1 beta lite: Our Houston Wrexans will finish 11-5 and go UNDEFEATED within the AFC South!

by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 15, 2011 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

It is a new rule this year, so old dogs are going to have to adjust and remember.

Last season and prior, scoring challenges were in the hands of the coaches reflexes.

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

For sure, thats what I said to myself as well

I actually thought it was ridiculous that it was a 15 yd Unsportsman-like penalty!! It doesnt affectthe game, why should it be THAT large of a penalty?!

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by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 15, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't understand it at all. Why can't the ref jog over and remind the coach he can't challenge it

and get back to business…

I think I’ve had enough of the NFL referees inserting themselves into the games this year. I’m greatly looking forward to seasons under a new commissioner someday. One far younger, and more less powerful.

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt

Whats unsportsman-like about that?

ps i like that helmet in your avatar

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by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 15, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks! I submitted it to the Texans for consideration of a uniform option someday

That with red jerseys would look awesome!

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Always loved this helmet ^

It’d be great for an alternative

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Nov 15, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

ya but its like they are saying

“HEY! we’ll undermine our OWN authority by reviewing it ourselves!!”

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by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 15, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

One of the all time stupidest rules.

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

^^THIS...

That was an infuriatingly asinine penalty to call.
“Gotcha” officiating at it’s worst.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I've done a lot of musing today.

I went outside in my backyard and laid on my covered cushioned swing and watched the thunderstorm. I was terribly vexed. I thought about our season thus far, and what this injury will mean for our future playoff hopes. I tried to recall Leinhart’s play during the preseason, because I haven’t actually seen his play anywhere else. I do remember thinking- out of all the backups I’ve seen in Houston over the years, I’m the least afraid of Leinhart (and also thinking, T.J. Yates kiiiiind of looked better than him- but that’s neither here nor there…) That’s not saying a whole lot, but he’s far from terrible. He definitely doesn’t have the accuracy of Schaub, or the decision making ability of Schaub. But if we limit tough decisions for him with the right play calling, the succesful run game, and Andre Johnson, I don’t see why we can’t be just as powerful offensively than we are right now. Our winning combination this year if you break it down has been defensive domination. It lets us play with the lead so we don’t have to resort to slinging the ball around a lot and creating opportunities for the opposing defense. And if we don’t have the lead, we can count on them to make a stand or create a turnover, for once. Will Leinhart ever break passing records? Fuck no. But he can hand the ball off to Benarian Fostate and pass anywhere in Andre Johnson’s general direction alllllllll day long. Matt Schaub has taken a back seat these last 4 games. Hell, I keep seeing articles all over the place about how you should be sure to bench him on your fantasy team. He hasn’t been bad!! Everyone else has just been reeeally good. We’ve lost our superstars left and right, and in EVERY occasion the next man up has done more than fine. We have a great O-line, a dominant (dominant doesn’t even do Benarian Fostate justice) run game, a #1 defense, and Andre Johnson. Plus maybe, just maybe… Schaub can come back in the playoffs and none of this will matter, anyways.

"I am not a number. I bleed, I think, I feel, I hurt, I mourn, I cry, I laugh. We and you are the same. You are us. Love with me." -Arian Foster's twitter... Follow him, hilarity ensues.

by RayFinkle1985 on Nov 15, 2011 5:24 PM CST reply actions  

And I also look at the 49ers

Very similar to us. They play great defense and run the ball really well. They are 8-1 with Alex Smith at the helm.

"I am not a number. I bleed, I think, I feel, I hurt, I mourn, I cry, I laugh. We and you are the same. You are us. Love with me." -Arian Foster's twitter... Follow him, hilarity ensues.

by RayFinkle1985 on Nov 15, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

geez that Tombstone line gives me the chills everytime

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by theSpaceCityKid on Nov 15, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

That movie is full of them

Val Kilmer steals that movie I think.

Where’s Wyatt?

Down by the river, walkin on water…. so great!

by JMFC on Nov 15, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

"I'm your Huckleberry"

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

"barber...proceed"

Dunno why but that stuck in my head…

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The whole Latin exchange

between Ringo and Doc is awesome once you read the translation.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

and then the gun/cup playing. When my dad watched it he said that part alone was worth the price of admission.

Also of note:
Ike Clanton played by same guy that played the Colonel in Avatar
Fat Billy Bob Thornton as Johnny Tyler

by jkcheng122 on Nov 15, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Tyler

“Christ, it’s like I’m playing cards with my brothers kids!”

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

“You back that queen again, you son-of-a-bitch, I’ll blow you right up that wildcat’s ass!”

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Nov 16, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

no....Ike is that guy?

Ike was fat in Tombstone…he buffed up!

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

.....

I had never even considered the idea of being able to translate that…can you give me the cliff notes on it?

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

hot damn...

going to have to watch that scene again.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

He took snarky, well-educated bastard to an art-form.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Why, Kate, you're not wearing a bustle.

How lewd!

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Another classic but I think that JK nailed it above...

…the cup twirling was hilarious.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Though, now that I think about it, this might be the best line in the whole movie:

" Evidently, Mr. Ringo’s an educated man. Now I really hate him."

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You're so drunk you're probably seeing double...

…can’t remember the entire line but it ended with, “one for each of ya”…

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Well ... I've got two guns ...

one for each of ya.

The dude who had the knife (and was in that shitty show “Ned & Stacy”) needed to die, but the whole “Steven stinkin’ Foster / Frederic fucking Chopin” exchange was great.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

my computer sucks...

I leave the bigscreen to the family…I just watch my movies on the laptop but it lags out on blueray and I don’t want to spend another 1500$ on a new one…so DVD it is!

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I miss the skinny Val Kilmer...

Fat Val Kilmer looks like a corpse that floated in with the tide.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Skinny Val Kilmer was the shit

He hasn’t been the same since Batman Forever though

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Nov 16, 2011 1:24 AM CST up reply actions  

The Sherpa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNMJ61ysuhY

If you somehow missed his cameo on Entourage you need to watch this now. I dare you not to laugh your ass off.

“mega negative”

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Nov 16, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay, I stand corrected

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Nov 16, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

lmao

So true

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Nov 16, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I say this a lot...

…and love the looks I get when people don’t know what the hell I’m talking about.

Why do you say this to me, when you know I will kill you for it?

by benefactor on Nov 16, 2011 6:25 AM CST up reply actions  

And the line on his deathbed

About having feelings for his cousin who “joined a convent over the affair” is way underrated imo.

Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.

-Orwell, Politics and the English Language

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 16, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

holy shit...

I never could understand what he was saying on that line…THANKS…

by Peckerwood on Nov 17, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup

I even used that one in a Mailbag post. Man, I need to watch that movie tonight. It’s been too long.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 17, 2011 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I say this

all the time…

"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Nov 15, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the one I use the most

might be “it seems my hypocrisy knows no bounds” (or the alternate “my hypocrisy goes only so far.”) Though I also started yelling “you’re no daisy!” at my brother during a game of one on one a couple years back right before I hit a 3 to beat him.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

another one of my fav line is

“I see a red sash, I kill the man wearing it.”, best part is it came from a US Marshal.

by jkcheng122 on Nov 15, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Nonsense.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Nov 16, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS

“I have not yet begun to defile myself” is my slogan for my fantasy football team :)

by Jay's T-1000 on Nov 17, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

ok ok ok...i beleive

i will beat the sh#t outta anybody who says matt leinart wont get us at least into the playoffs. Beat. The. Sh#t. outta you.

by F-BombTheJets on Nov 15, 2011 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Caption : "I'm gonna FUCK YOU UP"

I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali

by steelblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Schaub on 610 just now verifies it was Haynesworth who injuried his foot

but he doesn’t feel it was necessarily deliberate. AGAIN WITH THAT HAYNESWORTH!!!

He also said his foot is very colorful (bruising) and the size of a cinder block.

OK, truck’s loaded up with .308, beef jerkey, and the tank is topped off for a run to Tampa…who’s in?!!!

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 15, 2011 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

Spent all day yesterday reading Schaub news and BRB

instead of studying for my test

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Nov 15, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't go a page of studying

before I’m back here or on NFL, houstontexans, deadspin, etc .com

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Nov 15, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a little scared

After the big win Sunday I was thinking 13 – 3. First place in the AFC. Now I think it’ll be 12-4. I think Leinert is going to come up to the level of play that this team is now playing at. When I play golf with a bad golfer I play worse. When I play with a scratch golfer I play well. It’s time for us to show we are champions. Leinert has been on a championship team before. He WILL rise to the occasion. Let it be written, let it be so.

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah I think it's 12-4 too, with the potential for 13-3

But also with the potential for 11-5. But there’s no way BE-SFs catch up to us, because they play a few real teams from here on out. Our harder games are past us. The Falcons are really the only thing standing in our way, and I really think we’ll beat them even with Leinart.

"I am not a number. I bleed, I think, I feel, I hurt, I mourn, I cry, I laugh. We and you are the same. You are us. Love with me." -Arian Foster's twitter... Follow him, hilarity ensues.

by RayFinkle1985 on Nov 15, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I here Falcon tastes like chicken

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Err hear. Damn iPhone.

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Lol

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Nov 15, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I know I spelled his name wrong damnit

I’ve seen 30 different spellings. So from here on out I’ll just call him bubba.

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You were close. It's Leinart.

Just be proud you didn’t call him Lionheart or something similar.

I’m sure we’ve all seen that way too often since he entered the national consciousness.

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by Synchysi on Nov 15, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny story

I was talking to someone about Schaub’s injury today, and they looked me right in the eye and said, “They’ll probably bring in John Elway.”

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by RayFinkle1985 on Nov 15, 2011 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

I just go this stupid iPhone

Why don’t avatars show up?

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'm really going to have to start reviewing my posts

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Mobile version of the site is barebones compared to the full version.

No avatars, no recs, no flags, no green posts, separate page for fanposts/fanshots rather than having them on the sidebar.

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by Synchysi on Nov 15, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

My neighbor went to go check out the latest superphone...iphone or some shit...

And he said to the phone, “Phone, I need to dump a body, where’s a good location?” The voice said, “There are 4 bayous within 5 miles of your current location.” He said “list,” and it gave the locations, he chose one and she said “would you like directions?” and he said “no bitch”…then she said, “There is no purpose in using profanity”…and he said, “sorry”…and she said…“it’s ok.”….

No bullshit, true story…I want one of those damned phones! to this day I’ve never spent more than 60$ on a cell phone but I’d pay a grand for that one.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I want a video

of this!!! someone video tape someone asking these exact questions to siri

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by Taco Joe on Nov 15, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That's Siri.

The centerpiece of the iPhone’s new big advertising campaign.

Never mind the fact that there’s been an almost identical Android app out for some time now.

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by Synchysi on Nov 15, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

The Android one is functional

But unless the phone manufacturers make their own version, it isn’t fun that way. I use a Nexus S because I didn’t want HTC’s or Samsung’s, etc., bloatware.

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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 16, 2011 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate the Nexus S!

I’ve never had so many problems with a phone. But the HTC and Samsung has memory issues?

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 16, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't get my Nexus until August

and no real problems. I think there were problems in the original code. But I have switched to CM7 anyway.

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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 16, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I got the Nexus One

Love CM7 on it!

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by MeSoLongHorny on Nov 17, 2011 6:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I have an HTC Thunderbolt.

The only issue I’ve had with it is battery life.

Then again I don’t really push it too hard and haven’t bothered to jailbreak it yet. I’m not even sure if there’s a safe method of doing so to Thunderbolts anyway.

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by Synchysi on Nov 16, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that sounds like Siri in the new iPhone OS

You spend a lot of many for Apple to give you stuff like that.

/not an apple fanboy.

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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 16, 2011 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

...

http://whysiriwhy.com

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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 16, 2011 7:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice...

This Teknawlejy stuff is kinda cool.

by Peckerwood on Nov 16, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

it's sad how much I look forward to these

Another well-written, enjoyable post.
My “prediction”: I say 12-4 and come playoff time who knows what happens. As a lefty I believe in the power of the other hand

by TiEaB on Nov 15, 2011 6:30 PM CST reply actions  

Well said

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

D(ave and Buster's)evil's Advocate...

Fun x Awesome – Lame x Awesome = D&B

Awesome (Fun – Lame) = D&B

Awesome = D&B/(Fun – Lame)

by Albiceleste on Nov 15, 2011 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

Good call.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a terrible ad campaign!

I’ve realized that by having less fun and being more lame, D&B becomes awesome. The strange thing is, judging by D&B’s fans, that’s pretty accurate…

by fyeah101 on Nov 15, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Shit, you're right!

Just change the title to “Further advocating MDC’s claims” and let’s call it a day…

by Albiceleste on Nov 16, 2011 2:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It sucks because it involves math.

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by UprootedTexan on Nov 16, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Welcome, Les!

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 15, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this the Les Chappell that I know ?

Any relation to Mike Flynn?

GO TEXANS!!!!

Our time is NOW!!!!

by Texanmaniac on Nov 16, 2011 5:42 AM CST up reply actions  

i dont know why

but i just have this feeling that he will Beast us into the playoffs and beyond. In ’Dre We Trust

by TiEaB on Nov 15, 2011 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Dre's been waiting 9 years

if there was anyone who’d step up it’d be him, plus i bet he’s been chomping at the bit to get back on the field with how we’ve been playing

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by TheLastDynasty on Nov 15, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

he probably has

i think he is gonna come back with a vengeance

by TiEaB on Nov 15, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

That works too, but isn't Prime the more awesome part? Like it was an elite class of Transformers.

When the playoffs start, I envision Dre beasting up like Optimus did with Jetfire’s parts.

by jkcheng122 on Nov 15, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

These are the conversations

that make me love writing this post.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't a huge fan of the movies

but the cartoon is canon in the MDC household.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, yeah.

The cartoon only ran ’84 to ’87.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

i was born in 87

but i distinctly remember watching it with my older brother at certain points in my childhood so there had to be reruns

by TiEaB on Nov 15, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

They actually ran a new transformers cartoon....

I don’t know how many years after the original died off…it sucked though…maybe that’s what this guy watched MDC. The old ones…I watched some of those a few months ago, and it was terrible…the artistry was complete crap. Was great when I was a kid though. Of course, i thought The Ultimate Warrior was a good wrestler too…wtf, i was a dummy.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

So whe Dre Prime comes back

They should play “The Touch” by Stan Bush just like in the cartoon when Optimus Prime comes back from the dead.

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by MeSoLongHorny on Nov 16, 2011 7:38 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed

Dre Prime it is. Now if someone could photoshop an AJ/Optimus Prime I would be a happy man

by TiEaB on Nov 15, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Working on it

as we speak

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by Taco Joe on Nov 15, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

i look forward to this

you got like an hour before i go to sleep. Or it can be a nice surprise for another time

by TiEaB on Nov 15, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

This

no matter how bad they play, no matter how stupid they act, I still love my texans!

by trutxfan on Nov 15, 2011 6:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I HAD to wreck this!

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 15, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

#80 Rule "auto rec"

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

and stolen. Very awesome.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

That's been my desktop on my work computer.....

since last year when it first appeared.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Nov 16, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I stole it

From a buddy who introduced me to this site, but has yet to join in the fray.

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by WreckNTexan on Nov 16, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!

Fucking love that quote! Rec x 1000!

by RaY210 on Nov 16, 2011 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

oic

That helps thanks

by ArianNation713 on Nov 15, 2011 8:13 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

^ love the username

my buddy and i have wanted to make a sign that says “Arian Nation” for a game for the longest time haha

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by TheLastDynasty on Nov 15, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

oh haha

It was my ff team name last year..

by ArianNation713 on Nov 15, 2011 8:54 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Nutty? Is that you?

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by DilloTex on Nov 16, 2011 7:40 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

BFD is LIVE right now

Here

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

Hide yo wives

hide yo kids… I havent used that in a long time.

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by Taco Joe on Nov 15, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

MDC, I enjoyed the article in general

and the Math in particular, but I’m perplexed by the Tebow v. Young bit. Tebow has better stats, yet this is an attempt to mindlessly discredit him. There are a LOT of guys in the NFL who deserve random bashing more than Tebow. Just my $0.02.

"Nothing could, literally, not be more exciting..."

by jaws on Nov 15, 2011 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldn't say

that his stats are markedly better than Young’s. He has more TD passes, but he also gets sacked more and has more fumbles. He rushes for more yards, yet he scores only slightly more rushing TDs. Neither has number that you would want from an NFL quarterback.

It’s not about mindlessly discrediting Tebow; it’s about pointing out that Tebow has been a bad NFL QB, just as VY was early on, and he’s now getting the same media love that VY did for that performance.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank for the explanation

but I am unclear about the phrase “media love” being applied to Tebow. My perception is that the media puts a lot of emphasis on Tebow stories, but usually with a negative or mocking tone. This is why it surprised me to see you seemingly following this practice when I otherwise admire your writing.

"Nothing could, literally, not be more exciting..."

by jaws on Nov 15, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

They were at first.

But I’ve heard a lot of praise for Tebow as a “winner” on NFL network and various mainstream outlets in the last couple weeks, and it seems to stem from nothing more than his W/L record. Can’t recall if it was during one of the afternoon games Sunday or on NFL Network Sunday evening, but someone actually said that the Broncos are better off long-term if the continue to fine-tune this minimal-passing offense that Tebow is running. This struck me as patently absurd and even more apologetic than some of the “winner” praise VY used to get.

I honestly don’t care one way or the other about Tebow, other than to the extent that it irritates me when QBs get credit for “just winning” when, more often than not, their teams are winning despite things like the QB going 2 for 8. Then you watch someone like Christian Ponder who looks like he might legitimately become a good NFL QB, but he gets none of the hype or attention because he’s not “winning.”

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

All that said

I appreciate the feedback.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm really hoping Leinart ends up being like Willie Beamen from Any Given Sunday

My name is Matty, Matty Leiiiiiinart. I keep the ladies, on fiiiiiiire

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by TheLastDynasty on Nov 15, 2011 8:32 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Though if Leinart is puking on the field, it will be from a hangover, not from nerves.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure he could get it done regardless

Hell, anyone remember when David Wells threw a perfect game while hungover? Or when Dock Ellis threw a no-hitter while high on LSD?

Ellis pitched a no-hitter against the San Diego Padres on June 12, 1970. He would admit in 1984 to being under the influence of LSD throughout the course of the game. Ellis had been visiting friends in Los Angeles under the impression he had the day off and was still high when his friend’s girlfriend told him he had to pitch a game against the Padres that night. Ellis boarded a shuttle flight to the ballpark and threw a no-hitter despite not being able to feel the ball or clearly see the batter or catcher. Ellis said catcher Jerry May wore reflective tape on his fingers which helped Ellis to see his signals. Ellis walked eight, struck out six, and was aided by excellent fielding plays by second baseman Bill Mazeroski and center fielder Matty Alou. Because the no-hitter was the first game of a double header, Ellis was forced to keep track of the pitch count for the night game.

As Ellis recounted it:
    I can only remember bits and pieces of the game. I was psyched. I had a feeling of euphoria. I was zeroed in on the (catcher’s) glove, but I didn’t hit the glove too much. I remember hitting a couple of batters and the bases were loaded two or three times. The ball was small sometimes, the ball was large sometimes, sometimes I saw the catcher, sometimes I didn’t. Sometimes I tried to stare the hitter down and throw while I was looking at him. I chewed my gum until it turned to powder. I started having a crazy idea in the fourth inning that Richard Nixon was the home plate umpire, and once I thought I was pitching a baseball to Jimi Hendrix, who to me was holding a guitar and swinging it over the plate. They say I had about three to four fielding chances. I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn’t hit hard and never reached me.

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by The Night Owl on Nov 16, 2011 1:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, there is

They mention it on Dock Ellis’ wikipedia page

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by The Night Owl on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he'll be partying and assumptive with this opportunity

He has to have enough brain cells left to know this is his last shot in the NFL. If he blows this, he’ll be flying cargo planes full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong.

"There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?"

by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Good TDH, MDC. Just one question.

Where’s the Cody-bashing?

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 9:51 PM CST reply actions  

I've decided that it's too nitpicky to bash Cody or Mitchell

when the defense is playing as well as it is. Not that Cody and Mitchell are playing lights out, but they are not currently liabilities to the extent that they were early on. The only defensive player that I’m willing to complain about right now is Kareem Jackson, and that’s just because Jason Allen is obviously better and teams still use the “throw at the guy 25 is covering” as an offensive gameplan.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, still can't hide 25

He is making some lucky plays as he’s getting help from the refs, or having the WR distracted from his flailing. He’s closer to the play anyways, whereas he used to be totally out of the play.

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

ok...

First of all, the Tebow/Young comparison is pretty cool. But you won’t hear very many people AT ALL saying that Tebow is a star in the making at QB. No sports writers anyway. Tebow FANS are altogether different. And that’s expected isn’t it? Fans of any sports figure tend to blow them out of proportion. VY was being praised by commentators and writers and everyone else…granted, when they are announcing the game and they see Tebow pull off another miracle “wtf” win, you have to expect some ball hugging, but for the most part most sports writers and commentators know that Tebow is entertaining, but just doesn’t have the skill set to compete as a starting QB at this point. So, your comparison, and the purpose of he comparison is false. You read every positive comment about Tebow as a personal slight for some reason. Just like you did with every word of praise for VY. The latter…understandable…the former? Not so much. I’m no Tebow nuthugger, but the guy is pretty clutch.

Anyway, I win.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

Tebow is good at putting his head down

He reminds me of Brandon Jacobs with his size and willingness to make contact. Maybe he is better suited for a similar position.

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

If he can catch (and I have no idea if he can)

Tebow could be a fantastic FB.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe that would possibly lead to the Apocalypse

Although him running into Patrick Willis would definitely lead to the end of days

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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Nov 16, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah...

I think he’d be a good H-back or wide receiver…Tight end maybe? He’s pretty fast and agile…could be.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Interestingly enough

they had almost identical 40 times.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

And, they both played QB

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

Let’s trade Mario for him and bring some of that hype to Youston…hellz yeah!

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

wait wait wait...

is he gritty?

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by Carter Liles on Nov 15, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

He's white.

By definition, he’s gritty.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

make the trade.

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by Carter Liles on Nov 15, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Nooot so fast there, stereotype-slinger...

I submit to you that white =/= gritty by definition.
See: Bosworth, Brian

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by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

No no...

white =/= gritty, BUT
gritty = white.

You can be white and not be gritty, but you can’t be gritty and not be white.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah I skipped logic at Daisy Hill Puppy Academy...

I KNEW it would come back to bite me.
Along with several of my colleagues as it turned out.

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by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

lmao...

so there is no such thing as a gritty black player…they’re all “athletic”…can you be white and athletic? Or is gritty the only label they get?

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

black gritty guys?

not. possible.

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by Carter Liles on Nov 15, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

"Graduate"

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

In my experience

“athlete” = black, “gritty” or “high motor” = white.

For proof of the former, look at the Rivals top 150 and see how many white guys get “Athlete” as a position label.

Not saying it’s right or wrong, but they definitely seem to be code words.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

with high motors? yeh

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

it's cuz our athletes are inured

our entire healty front 7 is made of “high motor” players

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by steelblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I noticed that...

…our fine offseasonally acquired athlete is laying some real lumber from the CB position. That man makes me peepee dance sitting down when he hits those guys.

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by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

No shit.

For as great as Cushing has been, if there was justice in this world, JoJo would be DPOY just for the difference he has made in our secondary. If he gets hurt, we’re rolling Allen and Jackson out there.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Just imagine what life could have been like...

…with healthy:
- Danieaouyzl Manning
- Mary O’Williams
… as well…!

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Mary O

I still feel cheated by his injury. 5 sacks in 4 games, before the rest of the D was really even clicking. It just seems like we should be seeing a 20-sack season right now.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Antonio Smith would have about 8 by now too

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 16, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

High motor gritty players are leading the NFL in sacks this year...

The athletes are getting whooped by the gritty players this year…is it possible to be racist without saying “black” or “white” in a sentence? Or…uhhh, other racist terms that would be obviously derogatory? I think I achieved it anyway.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

is Allen still ahead of Ware in sacks?

Damn I wish Mario is healthy, he had 5 sacks in 4 games and a quarter, who knows where he’d have ended up by end of season if he played all 16.

by jkcheng122 on Nov 15, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

and he was just heating up

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by steelblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Hillis isn't so gritty...

He had a scratchy throat and skipped a game…

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Hillis is shit.

I loathe him even more than I loathe most Arkansas players.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently he's a head case

Word is his behavior is very erratic, which is why Denver let him go and Cleveland won’t negotiate a long term deal.

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by Hydroshock on Nov 16, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Prior to this week, I would have agreed with you,

which is why I didn’t say much of anything about Tebow. But I heard far too many people saying the “just wins” line about Tebow after this last game, when he went to 3-1 as a starter this year.

And “clutch” is a bullshit concept based on faulty drawing of starting and ending points and a fetishization of small sample sizes.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

lol...

Well, based on the small sample size he is pretty “clutch”…but the articles I have read basically say what I said in the post. 2-8…I don’t care who you are, it’s an impressive win, but outside of a TD run and 1 pass, you can’t give much credit to Tebow. Not sure who is saying he’s legit, but they’re just trying to get hits on their articles if they ARE saying that. Fuck it, I’m gonna write an article talking about how Tebow could be the greatest football player of all time. Should get some hits at least. Plenty of hateful comments too. :D

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The last part of your comment

has some validity. There are certainly people who want to be first on the “Tebow as Elway” bandwagon or whatever. I’m just more perturbed by the turnabout of the national media based on a couple wins. If he’s 1-3 this year with the same stats, people would all be saying that he’s shit as an NFL QB and should be benched. I just bristle at any assignation of wins to the QB only.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I hear ya...

It’s just media shit…they want attention and they’ll nut hug who the have to to get the attention. Tebow is interesting…like it or not…so they’re earning their paychecks by talking about the guy that the public is interested in. Yeah, purists like yourself are annoyed by him and all of the stupid hype, but…blah blah blah…you get the point. :D

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I totally get it.

And, like I said, I didn’t care one way or the other until 2-for-8 somehow changed the narrative from “he blows” to “he could be a good QB.” I’m not even totally a purist; until Mike Vick got busted for dog fighting, I loved him. But I do require that my QB be able to throw a ball every now and then.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Vick can run, but he can throw the ball too...

Granted before Philly he had never thrown for 60%, but he has poise in the pocket. He’s a short VY with poise…so…people are saying that BECAUSE he went 2-8 and got a W that he is legit? That’s stupid…doesn’t make ANY sense.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

The change in the narrative made no sense, but it happened, and the only thing I can chalk it up to is the “just wins” mythology.

And I agree on Vick. I would still like the guy were it not for the dog stuff. My point was just that I am not a pocket-passer purist by default. I appreciate diverse skill sets, so long as there is skill.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Dog fighting...

It was a culture thing…not a black culture thing, don’t get me wrong, but for his…hood I guess, it was a normal thing. I’m not condoning it, but I also don’t hate those people that think we should be a communist country…not saying that those people shouldn’t be shot either, but they should be shot in a very gentle manner. Loving if you will. I don’t dislike Vick. I don’t really like dogs anyway. SIK EM VICK!!!!

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Why you gots to be all hatin' on the canines, yo?

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by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

They shit and piss everywhere...

I don’t like babies either…for the same reason. Pee + poo = stay outta my house.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm... hard to fault your logic...

Okay, I hereby agree to stay out of your house…
Hugs?
/wags hopefully

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by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You can hang out in the backyard though...

I have a lawn care service, i don’t even go back there. Poop at your pleasure so that I can laugh when the Jamaican lawncare guys step in it. They’re not high motor guys by the way. They’re athletic.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh I do backyards... and shoe decorations...

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by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I get that.

I realize it was a cultural thing for him. I just also happen to feel strongly that, black or what or other, I would despise anyone who had done it. Which, I suppose, is also a cultural thing - in my world, dogs have always been separate from “animals.”

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome.

Rec’d accordingly.

/pets the slightly stinky basset beside him on the couch

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, you're making me feel guilty...

I’d better go throw the old man a pity wag… He gets all mushy and hugs on me and crap. But all I have to do to get some space is lick my butt. That usually is good for some breathing room.

Y’all have a wunnerful evening and thanks to all for a good time.

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by DilloTex on Nov 15, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

and so long as the teams' coaches know what to do with those skills.

I think it’s dumb some coaches force athletic QBs to be pocket passers b/c it’s the NFL thing to do.

by jkcheng122 on Nov 15, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't...

That’s the way the NFL functions. Athletic QB’s are that much more potent if they are good pocket passers. Tossing with your feet planted tends to lend something to your completion percentage. It just makes them that much more of a threat. Good passer + good runner = bad ass. Ala Vick last year or Cunningham in his prime. Elway, Young…bunches of them really.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

None of these rules seem to apply to Rodgers this year.

I see him all over the place, throwing on the run in all directions, and he doesn’t even look like he was throwing hard. Yet the ball always ends up where only the receiver can get it, most of the times leaving defenders unable to make the tackles too.

I wonder why when Kubes went QB shopping (and came back with Schaub) he didn’t go for a more mobile QB.

by jkcheng122 on Nov 15, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers is a different animal...

Can’t argue the point though. You’re right. I assume so anyway, I haven’t watched any GB games since the Super Bowl.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a matter of availability though...

Who can you think of that might have been available at the time that’s worth a shit that has good wheels?

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm wondering about that too, too lazy to search though.

But it seems Kubiak never considered it a big thing since Leinart isn’t very mobile either.

by jkcheng122 on Nov 15, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Leinart was surprisingly mobile in college.

Rushed for 6 TDs in 2005.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

brees

"Well if they've been watching football, i dont think they would say its the same old Texans. I went down. Mario went down. Danieal Manning went down and right now we're sitting at the top of the AFC. If they feel that way they were bandwagoners antways. So thats the way if feel about it." Andre Johnson

by F-BombTheJets on Nov 16, 2011 2:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I've thought this myself.

In Denver he worked with Elway and Plummer. In SF, was he there for Jeff ‘I can’t be gay, I date Playmates’ Garcia? All those guys could run around and make plays.

by JMFC on Nov 16, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Clutch

If the Broncos are on the 3 yard line with enough time on the clock for one play and they need a TD to win the game…. there is a probability of 99% that Tebow will try to run it, even if a pass is called.

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

And everyone knows it...

But he still scores…Clutch indeed.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

And nice article about Matt #2 by the way...

I agree…I think Kubiak will make him serviceable. My only fear is that he looked like C R A P in the pocket during the pre-season. He had no poise whatsoever. He chunked the ball out of bounds more than he tossed it towards receivers. 2nd teamers sure, but we were playing THEIR second teamers as well….I hope Kubiak has been drilling him on stepping up into the pocket or at least drilling the roll outs and such. Have to nip that problem in the bud fast or we could problems later.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:01 PM CST reply actions  

I have a feeling they will tailor the gameplan to suit what he is best at and not try to force him to make plays that he isn't comfortable with

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 15, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

tailoring him is fine...

But you can’t be an NFL QB without being able to sit in the pocket and toss the ball. VY sucked at it and look where he landed. Give me ONE QB that was worth his weight in silver dollars that couldn’t stand in the pocket and toss the ball…

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

besides matt schaub, which matt would you rather have?

Leinart
Cassell
Flynn
Glasselbeck
Moore
Ryan
Stafford

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 15, 2011 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

stafford or ryan...

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by Carter Liles on Nov 15, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

i dont like stafford. Buy Ryan is ok. He's better than the rest on that list.

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by steelblue on Nov 15, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Stafford...

I think he would be suitable for this offense. More so than Ryan. Don’t ask me why…I can’t support that observation but I’m sticking to it anyway. And he has better hair.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

If I knew he'd be healthy

Stafford. Otherwise, Ryan. Cassel is meh and the rest are dick.

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by MDC on Nov 15, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

well that's the thing.

out of all of the “dicks” that we realistically could have had i would say that brah is the safest bet.

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 15, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Stafford or Ryan

and I’d take a flyer on Flynn

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by Hydroshock on Nov 16, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm really going to miss Schaub

he’s like the decent desk job you have but you call it crappy anyways because you’ve become accustomed to being lazy & criticize it for not being exciting & lucrative until you find out after what seemed like an impressive presentation that you’re being replaced by the intern that made coffee, WHY SCAHUB WHYYYY!!! please just come back, I wont ever take you for granted…

by Texanation on Nov 15, 2011 11:01 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

yes you will...

The first 4th quarter INT and you’ll be cursing him for a maggot packed corpse in a helmet.

by Peckerwood on Nov 15, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

the media

Has been calling schaub mediocre for years. Now they say that without him we can’t win. I say, we can, we will.

by HTown80 on Nov 16, 2011 12:02 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

This is so ironic

yet not funny

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 16, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Seriously.

All the Schaub haters are suddenly acting like the Texans lost Joe Montana. It would obviously be better if Schaub were playing, but I think Leinart will do okay.

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 16, 2011 8:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

joe montana?

don’t you mean joe montegna?

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 16, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

...or Clint Howard?

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by DilloTex on Nov 16, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I find it interesting

That you disapprove of the “just winz” argument… yet you say this:

Rosenfels facing Indianapolis twice (he’d lost to them once in 2007), Baltimore (who would go 11-5), Cleveland, and Jacksonville. Rosenfels lost to the Colts and the Ravens, but beat the Browns and Jaguars. That is, he lost to the very good teams, but beat the bad ones (Cleveland and Jacksonville combined for 9 wins in 2008).

(empasis mine)

The whole idea that QBs win or lose games always irks me. There is a possibilty for that to take place, I guess, but in reality – it is not a useful statistic. QBs neither win nor lose games – teams do. Just one of my pet peeves.

Don’t get me wrong – I loved the read – just doing my peevification :P

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 16, 2011 12:13 AM CST reply actions  

Yes.

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

If you consider avg 15 passes a game to keep the running game honest, and the defense controlling the other side of the game in points, clock time with “3 & outs” and turnovers, we thankfully haven’t HAD to have a reliance on a QB to win games.

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by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Average 15 passes a game?

Since when? We have had a few games where Schaub had minimal passing attempts, but not a ton of them. HIs LOWEST was 15 passing yards. He threw 51 against Oakland…

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6849/gamelog;_ylt=At2usJ9pdKMRd1qoODlAq6f.uLYF

by Peckerwood on Nov 16, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't want a team that has to pass 51 times

A clock killing, red zone producing, running game with a shut down defense wins more championships.

I love the occasional deep bomb for six, but I like 11 guys on the field smashing the competition in the face and taking control of the game vs a single dimension where the opponent can eliminate one or two players and destroy the success factors (ie: Colts with Manning out). Also, aside from ‘Dre, we don’t have 3-5 big threat receiving targets like New Orleans or Green Bay to consistently burn the secondary with 8-15 yard gashes in a passing game.

A balanced attack leaning heavier on running seems to be a great formula for the way our team is built.

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by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Correction

I hate the “just wins” argument when it’s used as an excuse for shitty QB play. As in, yes VY (or Tebow) has terrible numbers, but that doesn’t matter, because he just wins games. I’m fine with the concept (if not the logic) of giving the QB credit for wins when he puts up numbers that are indicative of at least decent QB play (just like wins for pitchers in baseball).

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I see your point

Though I have problems with W/L for pitchers too – as it is often more based on fielding than pitching.

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 16, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

To say nothing of run production by a given pitcher's offense.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 16, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

True

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 16, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Disagree...

Usually the fielding doesn’t play a HUGE role in the game. Yes, some great plays are made, yes, some horrible plays are made, but we’re talking about the standards of MLB where defensive acuity is a given with most players. Even most players that are considered so-so would be stud defenders in college. Defense on the Major League level is VERY high considering that teams draft hitters and pitchers and not Adam Everett style defensive studs.

Defense wins games and loses games, no doubt, won’t argue with that, but a pitchers ability to get the hitter to hit the ball in a place the defenders at least have a CHANCE to get to it is the most important aspect defensively. I don’t give a shit if you have 8 Ozzie Smith’s playing D, if the pitcher can’t get it to them they’re going to get their asses kicked.

by Peckerwood on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

>where defensive acuity is a given with most players.

There is still a huge gap between a bad defensive MLB player and a good one. As much as 30+ runs over a season depending on the players being compared

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by nolander on Nov 16, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed...

There are some wins and losses there, that’s a given, I’m not saying they don’t play a huge role in the final tally of the games won/lost. I’m just saying that a pitchers ability to make the hitter make that little white ball bounce off the bat JUST SO is the biggest factor. Again, a defender is worthless if he never has a chance at getting to the ball.

by Peckerwood on Nov 16, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I definitely have problems with W/L for pitchers.

Logically, it’s dumb, but I understand the concept.

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by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't...

It’s not a perfect system…you’re always going to have a guy with a 4.50 era getting 19 wins on a good offensive team and a guy with a 2.30 era with a 9-13 record…it’s the nature of the beast, but for the most part the best pitchers are rewarded for being so. Everyone and his mother can see that the 4.50 era only had that many wins because of the huge bats in his lineup. And everyone knows the 2.30 era guy is much better than his record. It’s just a way for them to measure the value of the pitchers. It’s a rather complicated system when you look at the entire picture.

by Peckerwood on Nov 16, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

But a dude with a 4.50 ERA could be a very good pitcher who was very unlucky and had a career high BABIP. And the opposite is true as well, a bad pitcher can have an unusually low BABIP and therefore have a low ERA.

And then there’s run support. The most extreme example in my mind is Nolan Ryan’s 1987 season, when he was 8-16 but led the league in ERA, strikeouts, K/BB and ERA+. It was his second best year in terms of ERA+ (if you count his strike-shortened 1981 season). But he finished 8-16. That should tell you about the limitations of W-L as a metric right there.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 16, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

but what was his fip/x-fip/sierra!

ERA and ERA+ suck donkey dick

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by nolander on Nov 16, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree on ERA

But I think ERA+ isn’t a bad metric. What makes you say it’s so bad?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 16, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

one of the more accurate predictions for who wins

is QB vs. QB ( ex. Schaub > McCoy, therefore, Texans will win on this assumption alone ). While it is a team sport, and there are 11 guys out there, the QB is the leader of that offense. He is also the 1st guy who touches the ball (besides the center). If the QB is fumbling the ball, throwing INTs, getting sacked, mismanaging the clock, and showing poor leadership, it really doesn’t matter who your RBs or WRs are. The only exception to this is "team w/ mediocre QB and superb D vs. team w/ great QB and horrible D. I think what’s happening in Indy is a perfect example of this. This is just a good predictor of who’s gonna win, there’s always “any given Sunday.”

Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.

by swikky on Nov 16, 2011 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

I don't care that schaub is gone for the season or how close Tennessee is.

I still can’t wait to go to my local academy store and buy my 2011 AFC South Champions shirt.

by TheDream34 on Nov 16, 2011 12:50 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Wow. Post fail.

I didn’t think the first one took.

by memyselfini on Nov 16, 2011 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

AllenOU'd !

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by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 1:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Happens to me often too

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by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Was this from Rackers or Hartmann?

Either way, it seems like Rackers has been rubbing off on Hartmann anyways

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by The Night Owl on Nov 16, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Rackers via Commical

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by WreckNTexan on Nov 16, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm loving the attitude of this team

“Think you can stop us? Go ahead and try and see what happens” seems to be the theme. I dont think I have ever been prouder of this team, now all they gotta do is back up that talk.

by TiEaB on Nov 16, 2011 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

nice...

I especially like the obvious dairy cow being used as Toro…

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by DilloTex on Nov 16, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh haha! Dairy! I thought it was "Five Head" as Toro

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by MeMongo on Nov 16, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

We all know that Kubiade is in that funnel!

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 16, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh good god, that’s glorious.

by MadMartygan on Nov 16, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

anything is possible
Do I think Matt Leinart will take the Texans to the Super Bowl? If I’m being honest with myself, probably not. But, at the same time, I don’t think that he can’t lead them there.

Two Words:

Rex

Grossman

and while our D isn’t as crisp as that Bears D from their SB runner up year, it’s still very solid and our run game is better and pass game is better.

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Nov 16, 2011 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

See also

Trent Dilfer and Jeff Hostetler

I have not yet begun to defile myself.

The Two-Day Hangover @ Battle Red Blog (2011) & SBN Houston (2010) | Twitter

by MDC on Nov 16, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

And Brad Johnson

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Nov 16, 2011 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha lol'ed at the D&B equation

I still think the decision to go for a QB sneak which is pretty much the only possible way Schaub could get hurt is pretty Marijuana Pepsi-y.

"Walter is a quality 2nd receiver. Jacoby is so bad that the two of them together is less than just Walter by himself." -Toolshed1

by RocketsAstros on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

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