Things Change: On Matt Leinart, T.J. Yates, And Your Houston Texans
Losing your starting quarterback is a gigantic blow. Losing your backup quarterback is perhaps an even bigger blow, particularly when your third string quarterback is a rookie who has never taken a regular season snap in the NFL.
Going from Matt Schaub to Matt Leinart to T.J. Yates is a colossal downer. Dress it up all you want; it still sucks. Leinart didn't look particularly good before he got hurt today, and the Texans surely unveiled an even more conservative game plan to protect Yates in his wholly unexpected professional debut, but let's face the facts. Reasonable expectations for what the Texans can do this year have changed.
And that's okay. We can still enjoy the ride.
Your Houston Texans are 8-3. Your Houston Texans are going to win the AFC South, and your Houston Texans are going to host a playoff game. None of those things have ever happened before. Before the season started, if you'd told me that the Texans would be 8-3 after 11 games, in the driver's seat for the division title, and on track for a home playoff game (with an outside chance at a first-round bye), I would have been ecstatic. Texans fans have never experienced anything resembling that kind of success.
Prior to Schaub getting hurt, the Texans were playing well enough that a deep playoff run in the franchise's maiden voyage to the postseason was not out of the question. When Schaub went down, those dreams became less realistic, but we could still rationalize how, if things broke right, a playoff run was feasible. Now, with the very unexpected development that a rookie fifth-round pick will be playing the most important position on the field as the Texans enter the playoffs for the first time, we have to adjust our expectations again. Looking at things objectively, it's hard to imagine T.J. Yates leading the Texans to a victory in the playoffs. It's certainly not something I'd bet on.
And yet...
Your Houston Texans have a defense the likes of which very few teams can boast. Your Houston Texans still trot Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, Owen Daniels, and a very solid offensive line out for (nearly) every offensive snap. While it's not probable, given who'll likely be quarterbacking the Texans in the playoffs and the possible opponents in that first playoff game, it's not insane to believe that the Texans could make things interesting for their first postseason opponent. It might be insane to expect a playoff win, but it's not insane to think there's a chance the Texans' defense could keep things close enough that something memorable could happen. I mean, we live in a world where Case McCoy just led a game-winning drive at Texas A&M. Nothing is off limits.
I guess what I'm saying is that the Texans and their fans are playing with house money. They've lost their starting QB. They've lost their backup QB. They're presumably starting a rookie for the rest of the season. That doesn't happen to playoff teams in the NFL.
No one expects the Texans to do anything from here on out. They have enough of a cushion in the AFC South and a kind enough schedule the rest of the way to render a tenth consecutive year without a postseason berth a very unlikely scenario, but anything beyond one-and-done in the playoffs would currently qualify as little more than a pipe dream.
There's something liberating about a complete evisceration of expectations. No one expects anything of these Houston Texans, and that means anything they do from here on out is gravy. Instead of being bitter about the Texans' bad beat, I'm going to enjoy the ride. You never know what'll happen.
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Schaub's saying the same thing so he can play again this season
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 27, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
do you have any extra "optimism" lying around....
With everyone healthy, we would be looking at a deep playoff run. This season was gift wrapped with Payton out.
Shit, even with Peyton IN this season was ours.
With the D we’ve got, the Colts were toast this year. The AFC title belonged to Houston.
God hates the Texans. That’s the only explanation.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Who doesn’t hate the Texans?
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your guys almost lost to the chiefs?
refs saved your asses, I didn’t watch much but I got that much from it.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
go watch the first preseason game again
optimism high. we got this
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
The more I think about this
The more depressed I get.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 27, 2011 9:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This sucks.
A lot.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Getting ready for that all T.E. lineup
by UTBawse23 on Nov 27, 2011 9:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Well Owen Daniels is the emergency QB... So an all TE lineup is not out of the question
At least my bleach has aged over the last five games….
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Why isn't it Casey?
I’m just curious.
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Daniels was a real QB in college
not a gimmick Wild Owl Cat Bird Animal QB. Plus he probably knows the offense better being around for so long(ok maybe not casey has been around for awhile too)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I honestly think Kubiak should plan
to go to a Tebow style offense if yates goes down or just can’t do shit. Fuck it why not? Our D is awesome,just run the ball like mad and don’t turn it over.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Fullback situation
what is it?
Vickers was out today – hammy.
Casey was in, but I don’t remember seeing him playing a bunch in the 2nd half (like Tate).
I bet this week, they work on quick passes, short routes with TJ and the 1st string offense.
Oh, and two cots in the room with whiteboard walls – one for TJ, one for Kellen.
Shit – stick OD in there as well……
by Kidaster on Nov 27, 2011 9:28 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Why? So he can pull a Jason Witten?
“Okay, here’s where you throw to me. Alright, when I get here, throw me the ball since I’ll be open. Nah, don’t worry about Andre, he won’t mind. He’s too busy drawing defenders away from me so I can get open.”
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 27, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
he's our #3 qb right now...
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
A hosted playoff game at reliant?
Home field Advantage with a excellent running game, the top defense and a suspect qb. I think we will win at least one. Reliant will be renamed Fort Kickass

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by IMTHEICEMAN on Nov 27, 2011 9:29 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
I still find it somewhat disturbing that Reliant has a "Monster Jam" big truck event scheduled Sat Jan 7th
I guess they didn’t figure on the Texans playing a playoff game at home that weekend?!!!!
How are they going to get all those mountains of dirt moved in and out to accommodate a Sat or Sun NFL game?!!!
http://www.reliantpark.com/events/auto-show/monster-jam
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Honestly
I think it would be pretty badass if we played our first playoff game in the Astrodome. Yes, I know it’s not a stellar idea or 100% feasible, but given Houston’s professional sports franchise history, it would be an awesome way to celebrate the Texans’ first postseason run
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Nov 27, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
uhhhhh, prolly not.
No way the NFL plays second fiddle. The Astrodome may host big truck mania though…
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
^This^
Fire marshals wouldn’t allow it.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Someone would have to dump a lot of money into the Astrodome
It’s apparently in a state where it wouldn’t pass a safety inspection. I can’t imagine it needs that much done, but the county hasn’t wanted to spend the money to fix it. The last time it was used was for Katrina refugees if I’m not mistaken.
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WTF---- Shows that the Reliant Staff really believes in the Texans...Hunh!!!
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Rod Ryan was talking about it a few weeks ago
They have a 94.5 truck that runs and they help sponsor the event. It would simply get moved to another date
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SECede?....Whoop(s)!!
I wonder if they'll serve Wadeaide or Kubiaide at Fort Kickass
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by TheLastDynasty on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
I'm numb
Every season now my lungs, guts and heart have been ripped from me in emotional duress. For the first nine seasons it was sub-par players and questionable coaching schemes making the team the mockery of any recent expansion team.
We finally dial in the right roster, the right coaches, the right schemes and now injuries tear the rug out from under us like some sick Woody Allen film starring Rodney Dangerfield and Charlie Brown.
The Texans refuse to quit though, and we’ll be here with them through it all. What a freaking insane situation. I’m not ready to consign to “well there’s always next year” again just yet. Somehow I really hope they can keep this train moving forward NOW!
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The Flutie Curse has been lifted!!!!!!!
I wrote an entire FanPost on that months ago!
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Wouldn't apply to backups anyways
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 28, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
The Flutie Curse was released by Flutie himself
And, the Wade-led Cowboys won a playoff game two days later!
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I have read the article
And I agree
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 28, 2011 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
Okay, Barry read it. Everyone else should, too
One of my finest works, if I say so myself. Worth the read. If more, just for the Flutie story, because, Flutie is always a great story, an Oh! Why can’t Flutie be a possible pickup for the Texans? Hey, great idea, Rip!
Flutie! Flutie! Flutie! Flutie! Flutie! Flutie!
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Sounds better than the F Word
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 28, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
I know he's old now, but maybe there's some magic left
I think he just got out of football last year and i think that was his choice. If I remember correctly, Belechick wanted him to stay on the team. I really think, if he wanted to, he could do it and he might possibly be quite valuable for Kubiak, if he never gets in a game, which you would hope, at least for his mind and player-coaching ability.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Okay, I will let this die after this.... unless someone else wants to keep it alive
but, with Wade Phillips’ experience with Flutie, there just might be something there, the “Ultimate Chance for Redemption”
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Woulda made a great storyline, you have to admit
Afterall, with Yates and Clemens already in uniforms, all he has to do is be there and spew knowledge and rah-rahs…..
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
And the media honks would love it!
All they have to do is Favre Flutie and the script is pretty close to the same.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
/*crickets/*
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
If I remember correctly
Kyle Orton was pretty much in this exact position for the Bears his rookie year, The Bears played some pretty ugly football that year to 11-5, but I seem to remember the Bear fared alright until Grossman returned
Eight and three.
In August, if you’d told me that’s where the Texans would be after eleven games, I would have said “Awesome! Super Bowl!”
Now? I want to puke.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
by FreedomRide on Nov 27, 2011 9:42 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The plane ride home.
How happy do you reckon that was?
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Probably excited to be 8-3.
I can guarantee their not on their knees crying right now. At least I hope their not
by Dmo_Htx on Nov 27, 2011 9:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Probably more like "Yeah, we won"
Then they look at Leinart unable to open a Natty Light by himself, then say “Fuck, how much more of this can we take?”
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 27, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Let's take solace in our potentially large window.
Joseph is 27. Watt and Reed are rookies. Barwin, Quin, and Cushing are 3rd-year players. What do they all have in common? They all looked awesome today and should anchor one of the best defenses in the conference for several more years.
Barring four straight years of QB injuries, I think we’re in for some good times. For now, I’m eager to see Yates develop. He looked like an NFL QB for a few throws on that two-minute drill; that’s more than I can say about 90% of the back-ups who have found their way into games this season.
by Nashmeister on Nov 27, 2011 9:50 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
The future is bright.
We do have the makings of a very solid team for the next several years, that much is true. It would have been nice to make some noise this year, but the window isn’t closing.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Nov 27, 2011 10:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rec'd for that classic Texans' fearless optimism
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by TheLastDynasty on Nov 27, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
On The Bright Side, and Downside
Yates pre-draft descriptions of pluses and minuses sound just like Schaub. Thinker, very accurate in short to medium game, weak arm, so-so athleticism.
On the downside, we could very well go conservative and end up with a guy who has been bouncing around for a long time, or well past hisprime.
Hey...
At least Yates is still the second best QB in our division. He’s accurate, and CAN make decent decisions under pressure. The big failure falls on Kubiak’s play-calling to protect the kid. Granted, he’s not anything near even a Leinart, but we already said…we don’t need anything more than a game manager. If Foster wouldn’t have been stopped so much, the game would’ve been over a lot sooner.
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I have to disagree
Leinart was sucking cock, watch the end of the 2nd quarter again, before Konserviak took over.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
Okay... I'm going to have to start breaking out the beating the dead horse gifs for the Konserviak references, I can tell.
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by DilloTex on Nov 27, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
/Tosses a milk bone
Relax
The Texans have this
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Marc Kahlberg
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 27, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Don't go all Dilloiak on us, now....
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
QUESTION?!!?!?
I wonder how the whole team will react to this. You could see before Matt 1.0 the team knew that something special was happening and before matt 2.0 went down they still had that OH SO HAPPY FEELING….
but now what….i know they are professional players (spare me the argument) and i know they are paid to play hard every game (spare me that one too), blah blah blah, BUT they are humans and thus have human tendencies like the rest of us. how big of a let down is this for the rest of the season…you kinda know where and when this will all end. I agree with TIM that we will win division and host a playoff but that is it….
i will take TIMs advice and enjoy the ride but how will these players react to all of this…on defense and offense. i saw some poor play today on defense and i am chalking it up to rust and nothing else (not that they are feeling some emotional let down due to matt 1.0 and matt 2.0 are gone)
lemme hear it homies
2011 Season is the Reason!!!
that is another scary thought...
the potential poor offensive execution will effect defense because we will start to lose TOP….this is like last year, we win TOP (time of possession) we will win the game….well at least make it even TOP
2011 Season is the Reason!!!
There was a lot of bad play calling
But the offensive line has no -that is ZERO – excuse. The offensive line sucked bags of dick in the run game most of the day today.
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 27, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
mandatory "bag of dicks link...
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I don't know
They were stacking the box pretty good.
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by Patrick Harrel on Nov 27, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
Are we going to face a D better than the Jags the rest of the season?
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I’m not sure how to judge that version of the Jags D. They looked pretty stout, but they were missing a ton of people.
Yeah, that's what's a bit alarming.
They were missing a lot of pieces and still played well.
Of course, not worrying about passes beyond 5 yards for the whole game probably helped.
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Word came out after the game that they were going to do absolutely nothing
to expose Yates to unnecessary injury, so they just kept running. Didn’t take long for the Jags to figure that out, so the box-stacking commenced. And I think they have pretty good defensive coaching and scheming, which made the bench guys more successful against us. I expect they will open Yates up a little next week since they will activate Clemens.
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by Christopher H on Nov 28, 2011 2:47 AM CST up reply actions
What do you mean bad play calling?
Were you expecting them to start winging the ball around when we had a 10 point lead? They did exactly like they were supposed to, run the ball, don’t turn it over, and let your dominate defense do its job. Anyone complaining about conservative play calling isn’t using their brain.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
You don't have to "wing it around"
To keep the defense honest.
The run plays were not even varied much
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 28, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
Yates was the only QB left dressed
There was no logic in risking injury by putting him back in the pocket.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
^Agree
The offense didn’t need to win in the second half, just not loose. The defense took over and did what they needed to do. What concerned me is the D started to look a bit ragged there at the end, when we started the bend but dont brake deffense.
In other news we shoud be happy for 7 freaking sacks. 4 by Barwin. I dont care if we played a bad Offense and quaterback, you dont get 7 sacks by playing like a turd. Even bad O teams like the seahacks and cleavlend clowns dont give up that many.
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Yeh, and I think they had another sack taken away by a bogus penalty
Refs were not very good yesterday
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Not very good is giving them too much credit.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 28, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
I was trying not to cause a stir
In reality, this Texans team did great yesterday to overcome what was some dubious referring and to me, really appeared to be some “homer-calls”, if that is a term. Some were so obvious and late, that I couldn’t call them anything better than that.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Like them not calling a penalty when Yates got hit after sliding
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Yes. That was an incredibly bad no-call.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Yes and it was following the call against Watt unintentionally hitting Gabbert low
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I've been critical of second half playcalling this season...
But not yesterday (except for why we didn’t see Tate. I mean, a few first downs would have been better, maybe he could have done it.) Too much at risk, and would OD have been a threat for throwing a single pass? At least Yates did throw some.
The second half playcalling may have been the most sound all year. The prevent offense did what it was supposed to do, prevent turnovers and prevent losing the game.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 28, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Hartmann had a bad punt that hurt, but the D really rose up
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
The bad punt does stand out
But he was asked to do it 237587823 times yesterday, I supposed one bad one isn’t the end of the world. ;)
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 28, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
You are more forgiving than me
Punting is his main job; that and holding for FGs. He has to get the punts right!!! He can not shank! Shanking is unforgivable in my book for a punter. I will never forgive him!
Unless…. they get to the Super Bowl and he stops a return from scoring and the Texans win. Then, he will be forgiven.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Agreed
As much as I hated the play calling in the second half, it was exactly the right thing to do when you’re playing with a lead on the road and you’re down to your emergency rookie QB.
It’s easy to be critical when you’re arm chair coaching at home, but when your a REAL NFL HC and your season is on the line, you do exactly what Kubiak did. Run out the clock and be thankful you were in the position to do it.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
How the players will react....
….it’s "NEXT MAN UP…: like DWard stepped up when Foster couldn’t go, like Tate stepped up when DWard got hurt, like Jacoby at least took his game up a notch when The Greatest went down with a hammy, like Nolan stepped up when Manning broke his leg, like Reed stepped up when Mario tore his pec….and has a sack EVERY game since.
Wade has the D believing they can do anything like the offense has for awhile. Cody was even bringing his A game today. These guys have put way too much into this season to start whining like Colts fans cause our QB went down….again. No, as much as I’d like to say it;s likely, it’s gonna be damn hard to win a playoff game. But these guys are gonna leave it all on the field. This team is gonna go down swinging…and they still have a puncher’s chance to win one.
Apologies in advance for the cheese, but wasn’t Steamin Willie Beamon the 3rd string QB who led the Miami Sharks to the playoffs? Even with Al Pacino in his face?
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Nov 27, 2011 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
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To the Texans and “The next man up!” recipe for success!
They’ll go in believing they can win every game. Think about it, even with a rookie quarterback we still have a MONSTER offense with tremendous assets. Our defense is THE BEST bar none.
We can’t seriously believe that TJ Yates is as bad as Rosenfels or Orlousy. Kubes flushed out the weak quarterback backups.
=) Send the Texans all our love they’ll do fine.
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by BattleRedFan on Nov 28, 2011 1:47 AM CST up reply actions
2 games is a big enough cushion?
we would still need to win 2-3
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its going to be close I think
I think we will probably lose to Atlanta and Cincy, and Carolina is better than their record and could be a challenge. It will come down to the last two division games.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Agreed
Hopefully we’ll steal either the Falcons or Bengals game but I think it ultimately comes down to the Titans game.
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I would rather lose to Atlanta than Cinci
Conference loss hurts more in the playoff picture.
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by MeSoLongHorny on Nov 28, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Dear T.J.
We know you ran the system for 4 years at UNC….if you could just be like this guy then we could be okay.
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by TexansDC on Nov 27, 2011 10:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That would be really nice
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by The Night Owl on Nov 27, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
He has been around since the shorten preseason...
and has to have a better grasp of our offense now than what Dalton had when he first took the field.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Well, the success of Dalton at least means its possible.
Honestly, I’m still not really in a different place that I was. Losing Schuab depressed me, as did losing Mario. But I don’t know that Leinart/Yates is such a big divergence.
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Good article.
Instead, expect a more open game plan for Yates.
Right tackle Eric Winston said the Texans were wary of anything against the Jaguars that could get Yates hurt because they didn’t want to test Daniels’ quarterbacking skills. It’s a mistake, Winston emphasized, to put too much in to what the rookie did, or didn’t do.
"I think next week you’ll see a much different T.J. because he can make some huge throws," Winston said. "He’s much more athletic than Schaub or Leinart. That will work well with some of what we do. He can get out of the pocket, he can make some throws. I am not worried at all. I think that he’ll meld well with what we’re doing in the play-action game."
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/31070/still-hot-texans-may-need-to-turn-to-yates
"I am not worried at all."
Isn’t that what the captain of the Titanic said?
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
by FreedomRide on Nov 27, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
As soon as Schaub went down
my mom said: “Yates?”
she was rather unconcerned when Leinart went down… imagine that, a Longhorns fan despising a QB from USC who talked a lot of shit to the Longhorns at the team luncheon. BTW, 2005? remember what happened?
Next man up! Yates can do this!!!
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
Well, a lot of us called that....
They didn’t want him to get hurt and turtled up.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Yates>Leinart
get the kid some 1st team reps and he’ll be great… yes I said great, maybe not in game 1, but give the kid a chance and he’ll show us why we drafted him. some of you wanted a qb controversy, you just might have one, but oh so unexpectedly it will be Yates looking to take the job. Matt.2 was watching the cheerleaders between snaps? if you have dvr check it out.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
Sit back, relax, we got this, Yates is better than Matt.2
Yates looked 5x better than Leinart. sure you can go 9 of 11 but if you’re afraid to challenge a teams 3 & 4 corners downfield? Fuck “checkdown” Leinart, and look what just happened up there^^^^^
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
You are out of your tiny mind.
But I hope you’re right.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
by FreedomRide on Nov 27, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
my tiny mind is soaked with booze
but if you need confirmation or would like to see why I agree, watch the first preseason game again, the one where Matt2 took a shit and TJ led the team. relax, we got this even better now.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
you gotta admit tho
that TD that Leinart threw while under heavy pressure made you say “wow we really got a chance with this guy!” or at least think something like that for a second..
by firestorm420 on Nov 27, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
however I was seriously concerned with 9 – 11 for 1 first down. I could do that. 1 pass >8yds? not good. Learn from Schaub, throw it at A.J, He’ll get it.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
I'll admit it.
I was going nuts when he did that.
Albert Haynesworth can eat a bag of donkey dicks.
Seriously, screw Tampa for even claiming him off waivers.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Nov 27, 2011 10:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Ummm...OK.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
by FreedomRide on Nov 27, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
No Haynesworth in Tampa = no Schaub injury = not starting T.J. Yates on Sunday.
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by UprootedTexan on Nov 27, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
green donkey dicks.
albert sucks green donkey dicks! get it right!!!!!!
:)
yeah, this sucks, but maybe matt 2 isn’t done…
maybe tj hooker can turn it up. just more drama….
but yeah, albert sucks!
by Danpassurweenie on Nov 27, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
And fuck New England for letting him go.
Obviously the hoodie knew the Texans were the team his Pats couldn’t beat in the playoffs so he cut Fat Albert knowing about his track record of hurting Schaub and knowing the Bucs would need him.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
...the evil of the hoodie knows no bounds...
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Darth Hoodie
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The Evil One

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
I'm not worried about Yates
I liked what I saw of Yates in preseason, and I liked what little bit I saw today. Until he loses a game for us, I’m drinking the Yates-aid.
by LedTexan on Nov 27, 2011 10:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like the way you think sir
we got this next man up shit down. who need a fucking mvp, we got a TEAM!
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
well
if we lose to the Falcons, dont abandon Yates just yet, if I recall thats the game most people thought most likely to be the one we’d lose, and that was before Shaub got hurt.. just sayin.. when we made our 11-5 or 12-4 or even 13-3 predictions most were thinkin Falcons as prolly bein one of them Ls..
However, if we beat the Falcons with Yate at QB, we should all chant MVP and go crazy, and I will drink and eat nothing but Yates-aid for the whole week!
by firestorm420 on Nov 27, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
^This
MVC though
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Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Most Valuable Coach maybe
he is not a player
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 27, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
most valuable anything to everyone
we don’t need an mvp, we have a team. a damn good one!
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
sort that out AFTER a championship...
keep the faith and momentum…no i…1-0, just for today.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
I'm cool with this.
Yates has some balls man. I liked what I saw too. He seems to soak in everything very fast, has this natural “leader” look to him. And, he can make some plays with his feet too. I think the “wait and see” approach with Yates is completely justified.
Plus you have to take into consideration how he held that UNC team together after they lost a bunch of playmakers to suspensions
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 27, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
...and lead the tarheels to an OT victory of infamy over UT....Vols.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
I went to a UNC game @ Chapel Hill in 2009 when I was going to college in South Carolina
Dude was phenomenal, yeah he knew the system exceptionally well because he started there for so long, but even given that he managed the team, the clock, knew how to be smart with the ball, and was great outside the pocket. he may be a little premature at this point, but i still have high hopes for him (mostly due to my large consumption of evan williams following leinart’s injury)
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Nov 27, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Master Yates?
anyone?
Matt Schwab, Mary O' Williams, Adrian Foster, and Daniel Owens are my favorite Texans!
by MeSoLongHorny on Nov 28, 2011 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
You know what'd be funny?
Time for a Wild Texan package with Casey at QB and Foster AND Tate in the backfield. “BLOCK THIS!!!”
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Or Daniels at QB
Dude can block. Lol. Could be an interesting and hard to figure out formation with so many weapons to run the ball with.
“Stick with what works” and all that, right?
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Thor > Tebow
Thor at QB, Foster and Tate in the backfield, Dreessen as FB and OD as TE or out wide opposite Dre.
Its getting harder and harder to watch NFL highlights on TV
Chris Berman is annoying and an idiot, with stupid/asinine/revolting jokes
NFL Network’s crew of thugs spend 99% of the time just yelling at each other and seeing who can make the dumbest comments the loudest
I heard them call Tebow "magical" today
and I knew I could never watch them again
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Nov 27, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
It's PrimeTime's fairy dust...
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
I am a football experrt
After all – I watched 6 9+ hours of football today. I have consumed half a bottle of vodka, so I am thinking really sharp.
Therefore I am as much an expert as all those loud mouths on NFL Network and in othe studios, and I say Yates can take this team to the Super Bowl. Why? – We still will have the same opponents – and we are likely to go 5-0 the rest of the year.
Our D is a monster and our offense with the o-line blocking like it did today would suck a bag of dicks can be better than anyone.
So I am drinking the koolaide (with generous portions of vodka added) and the Texans will over come!
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 27, 2011 11:05 PM CST reply actions
I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...
We’re better off now than we were with Leinart.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
And I rested at La Quinta
So we have this!
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 27, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
I graduated first in my class
and I say everything will be fine, dammit.
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Nov 27, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'm wearing a leather "houston texans" jacket
and we are fine!!
CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON CUT KAREEM JACKSON
by Carter Liles on Nov 27, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
will be in the morning...
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Yessssssss!!!!
I have extra bleach and razorblades if it doesn’t work out, also mr. detective I am secretly willing to take donations to facilitate a plan that ensures that albert haynesworth never plays again. just involves reversing the wiring on the bilge pump on his beloved boat, can fat people swim?
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
they float. everyone floats.

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 27, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
Watching the Lienart footage from the shoulder injury... He threw the ball like a girl before he was hit.....
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Looked to me like he knew he was going to get sacked and was just throwing it in Foster's direction to avoid the sack and not get picked.
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
Well actually it was a good play to avoid the sack.
Then again if he held the ball and taken the sack maybe he doesn’t get hurt since he’d be able to protect himself.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
No, he threw it right at Arian's feet
It was the Yates one that was called intentional. Even though I can’t remember ever seeing that call before for throwing out of the back of the end zone
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Plus
He was (marginally) outside the tackles.
Other than that, the refs were great.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 28, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Look at it this way
Matt Leinart looked like hot garbage for the majority of the time he spent on the field. His balls were mostly floaters, he was asked to check down a lot, and when he wasn’t, the only real stick throw he made was the AJ push off that was cancelled by offensive PI.
Meanwhile, Yates looked nice on his first drive, before they really had time to go over the game plan. The Texans basically turtled on their lead as he didn’t have the practice reps or the entire grasp of the gameplan — and it wasn’t like the Jags offense was going to challenge that at any point.
I’m optimistic that Yates can step up and produce adequately in the right scenario. I think logically this has become a 2003 Ravens scenario, where they were crippled with Anthony Wright in the playoffs and couldn’t win against a real defense, but the Texans aren’t exactly locked into facing a good defense yet. That’s not to say that this is all over or anything — on either the optimistic or pessimistic side — but I don’t really see Leinart to Yates as a downgrade.
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by riversmccown on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 PM CST reply actions 9 recs
ank you Rivers
I was not exactly sold on Leinart being ahead of Yates on the depth chart anyway since game 1 of the preseason. Yates looks like he can do it better on the field, he may not have the style off the field, but he’s got it on it. We are where I thought we would be in preseason with these unfortunate circumstances. Next man up.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
Your thoughts are echoed by Kubiak and Winston
Who said the conservative game plan was to keep Mr. Yates clean….and keep Owen Daniels at tight end.
I liked Yates’ arm when we saw it. He didn’t checkdown and seemed willing to trust his weapons. It’ll be interesting to see him against Atlanta.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I agree with this 100%.
It’s not like they were turning Leinart loose, and I’m not sure what there is to turn loose anyway.
Also, Texans won this game on the road, against a good D, with their 2nd/3rd string QB. They did not surrender an offensive touchdown.
What do you think about Clemens? I always though he didn’t get a real shot. He’s about the same age as Leinart I think.
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I think he pretty clearly did steroids. Hate his guts.
Wait, wrong Clemens.
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by riversmccown on Nov 28, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Rivers speaks for me
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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At the very least
now the Texans’ bandwagon is only occupied with the usual group of hopelessly optimistic Texans’ fans. Everyone refill your Kubiades, it’s going to be a bumpy ride, and someone grab the bleach
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Nov 27, 2011 11:43 PM CST reply actions
No bleach yet.
I’m still drinking the wadaid…..spiked with generous amounts of Old #7.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Brodie Croyle....
Please tell me the Rotoworld rumors are wrong. Give me Jeff Garcia over him. At least Garcia can win games…
Croyle…
This is bad
bulger is atrocious
i can kick better than he throws. and my kicking sucks.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 28, 2011 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
Fine anyone
That is a real vet that has some good years. Im not asking for much, but at least a good name who could mentor Yates and feel at least some comfort in QB to enforce him. And Croyle does not give me that comfort.
that's what both matt's are for.
along with gregg knapp and coach kubes. the kid won’t be without mentors.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 28, 2011 1:02 AM CST up reply actions
Milkshakes!
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Push-up bra
Obviously
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by Foster Child on Nov 28, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
I hate this.
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They’re just not all natural.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Nov 28, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
What about trading for a backup QB somewhere else??
Chase Daniels anyone?
past trade deadline
can’t trade anymore
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by Carter Liles on Nov 28, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Which sucks for teams headed into the post season...
that need talent and for the teams looking to rebuild and for the players seeking to jump sinking ships.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
This right here
Instead of being bitter about the Texans’ bad beat, I’m going to enjoy the ride. You never know what’ll happen.
Sums it up for me. Just strap in and hang on, like every season.
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Nov 28, 2011 12:25 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
What season?
We’re going to lose 5 straight according to titans fans lol!!
by TheDream34 on Nov 28, 2011 12:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
...chocolates...
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
i have a solution
We rename t.j. He can be matt yates. Then he can be matty 3.0 and then we’ll be fine. Oh wait, then he’ll get injured. Nevermind, i’m cool with t.j.
by HTown80 on Nov 28, 2011 12:37 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Ok to look away from the injury.
Is anybody worried about ATL offense at all? I mean K-jax on julio jones is scary shit. What about anthony Gonz? I hate to say it but think our D might let us down. Then again we are at home. Any word on Vickers?
by southpaw70 on Nov 28, 2011 12:41 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
ATl will be a tough one.
If Yates comes around we can win it, though. ATL is good, not great, and thus beatable. GB would be a different story.
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good point.
people have forgotten what GB did last year with all their injuries. of couse thier QB did not go down.
All we need is a hot start
our pass D will create turnovers if Matty Ice is forced to do alot of slinging the ball against us.
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by Fredrik Nyman on Nov 28, 2011 4:05 AM CST up reply actions
i think this is the best situation for yates.
he has no pressure. no one outside of that locker room expects him to do anything. he is a 5th round pick so most people will assume that he is ass and to play like he isn’t shit. some will be optimistic but everyone has their doubts. all he has to do is play like what he is accustomed to. relax and be himself. he does that we have a chance at winning some games.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 28, 2011 1:15 AM CST reply actions
I disagree
He has a ton of pressure. How he plays could determine his career as an NFL QB. There have been a lot of talented QB’s that were thrown into similar situations only to see their confidence, and dreams, crushed.
Not saying that’s going to happen to Yates, but you can bet he’s dealing with pressure. Nobody wants to be the guy to torpedo a team’s first ever playoff birth.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
SHIIIIIIIIIT. I know Shits fucked up right now... but we got this guy TJ Yates.

by YohannDookeyblue on Nov 28, 2011 1:55 AM CST reply actions 6 recs
he's so sma-a-art
he’s going to learn the entire playbook in ONE WEEK!
What
are electrolytes, anyway?
They’re…what plants crave!
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Nov 28, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
The thing I noticed the most today when Yates hit the field....
he had ‘the look’. He was all business. There was calm, determination, etc.. He could’ve easily looked like a deer in the headlights. Dude was ready. By comparison, think about the look on Gabbert’s face, even when he started the game. The guy did not have his jaw set and ‘the look’ in place. And later he did look like a deer in the headlights. For a third stringer to come in and look that calm and rifle a couple of crisp passes en route to driving down the field for some more points gave me something to feel good about.
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by Christopher H on Nov 28, 2011 3:01 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I agree with this
When they turned TJ loose to get some extra points at the end of the second Quarter he looked like a player. After that he wasn’t allowed to do shit and it was an ugly ugly game.
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by Fredrik Nyman on Nov 28, 2011 4:03 AM CST up reply actions
I was actually surprised that they let him throw in that situation
If anything I was thinking they would run out the clock there and try to get him up to speed at half time. Then I was like, “woah!”
He said in his post game interview that he didn’t even have time to think when they threw him in there, he just fired it. I think that’s the key. If they can keep him from having to think a lot he’ll be able to make plays.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Shit, I feel like a straight up douche for bringing this up...
I’d feel worse if someone’s already brought it up but I haven’t been able to keep up with the comments like the good old days without studies and exams… and alcohol… and girls…
Anyway, we better damn sure enjoy this year because next year we play a first place schedule, the NFC North, and a healthy Peyton.
And we'll (hopefully) have a healthy Mario
To deal with a healthy Peyton. Besides, with this defense I think we win the division even with a healthy Peyton.
I know it sounds crazy
But I’m not as worried about Peyton as I used to be. I think we’ll kill him.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Impressive
Despite the doom and gloom, I think we all should remember that the Kitties beat the Ravens in their building, and the Texans beat them (pretty soundly) with a 2nd and a 3rd string quarterback…and it wasn’t really that close. Maybe I’ve been hitting the Wadeade too hard, but I think the Texans will continue to kick some ass, albeit with more difficulty on offense.
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
So rumor on the radio was Sage Rosenfels
Not sure how I feel about that. Supposedly will pass a physical today and be released by the Dolphins.
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I have no problem with that
I was actually hoping something like that would happen. We all know what he brings, and nobody is ever going to forget Rosencopter, but in a worst case scenario I’d rather have him in there than Clemens…..or Garcia…..or Favre.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I just don't
think he will pass a physical, there is a reason he wasn’t starting in Miami.
by Bobbythegreat on Nov 28, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad
someone else is just ready to enjoy how this will play out. I went to another Texans “talk” site yesterday afternoon and there were many posts about injuries and possible replacements yet none about the team going 8-3. Just try and enjoy the ride people!
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by semihard@texans on Nov 28, 2011 8:03 AM CST reply actions
SAGE IT IS AND.......
GOD DOES HATE THE TEXANS!!!!!!
Dirt dog pimp
by jahunter221 on Nov 28, 2011 8:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions
is this confirmed?
sources please
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Nov 28, 2011 8:40 AM CST up reply actions
Refill those bleach mugs everyone
The Dolphins will reportedly release Sage Rosenfels (reserve/non-football illness list) so he can sign with the Texans.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Hey, as long as he decides to not test out his superman skills again
it can’t really hurt, right? Definitely want someone who knows the system to be able to compete.
problem is
I don’t think he is even healthy. I was IR’d by both the Giants and Dolphins for his bad back.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
He has some other chronic illness too
Not sure what – but likely not released information
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 28, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
Some kind of blood disease
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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 28, 2011 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
I don't have a problem with it
He’s not going to replace Yates, and he’s better than Clemens
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I loved the strategy of letting MJD break off 30 yard runs
so that he had to take a breather and come off the field. as soon as he goes to the sideline, 3 and out. that shit was brilliant.
140 all-purpose yards of little value.
Thank you Marcedes Lewis.
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by Christopher H on Nov 28, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Yes. Thank you for dropping a TD that would have likely changed the entire game
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Marcedes
Should be traded in for a Ford.
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Nov 28, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
For the people that were complaining about TJ Yates taken in the 5th round
What do you think about that move now?
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
Love it!
although I wasn’t complaining at the time. Scratching my head is more like it.
I retroactively retract my head scratching though, and will defer to Kubiak on all his future decisions (offense-related only).
I was kind of scratching my head too
But there were many that were almost violently opposed to the idea.
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
by Barryfromtexas on Nov 28, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
I put myself in the "wondering who he is and will he be anything" ever in the NFL
Or, “what else could the Texans have done with that draft pick”
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I thought the same thing last draft
After all those tight ends, and we needed every last one
Leinart's 2011 final line: 6 wins, 3 losses. 12 TDs - 2 INTs, 2,100 yards with 62% completion.
by texanphil on Nov 28, 2011 10:43 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
still here.
still think we could have done something different with the pick. however if kubiak really saw something in Yates, Im always happy to be wrong.
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by Carter Liles on Nov 28, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Here's what I will say in regard to Yates being our QB (hopefully for the rest of the season)
I have no faith in him, we will fail, the Titans will take our AFC South title away and host a playoff game.
I feel like if I don’t say this, Yates will have a season-ending injury during the next game. It’s like we’re simply not allowed to believe we can win even when we are winning.
Could anyone, ANYONE have predicted at the beginning of the season
that we would be discussing the possibility of the return of the Rosencopter? Beyond surreal.
/pours a round of lemon Clorox for the room
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Pour that on Mila and I will snort it....
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Seriously
Is … Hasselbeck …. the only one left standing from week 1?
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 28, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
The Curse of Hasselback!
All starting QB’s in the division will have season-ending injury’s so he can finally be the last QB standing.
Matt Schwab, Mary O' Williams, Adrian Foster, and Daniel Owens are my favorite Texans!
by MeSoLongHorny on Nov 28, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
It's only a matter of time
His headstone has been carved, his grave has been dug up. All that needs to happen is for him to get knocked in there
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Reed or Barwin?
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 28, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
My money is on Watt or Cushing
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
All four at the same time
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
What's so surprising about that
Our front 7 is whiter than a freshly bleached shirt
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
all hella athletic too. I wonder though if Mario would have gotten more than 4 in a game like this. He should make it his goal to break Barwin's franchise record.
Can you IMAGINE teams...
…trying to plan for us next year? The front line that is kicking ass this year PLUS a healthy Mary O’Williams? Mary may just set a new NFL sack record next year.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
What're the chances that if Dolphins do in fact do us a favor and release him, that the Titans claim to block us?
75%
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
What is the rule on this?
if they claim him do they have to sign him? So then they would have to release someone else?
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Yeah, pretty much. They also have to pick up his contract
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Nov 28, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
I was wondering if they already had an opening.
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 28, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
At this stage of the season, hell, at anytime during the season
Unless there are some exceptional cases, such as Peyton Manning and the Colts who are holding out hope for his return, NFL teams are carrying the full 53 man roster. Note, that as soon as it was determined that Schaub was out for the season, they immediately added Kellen Clemens. But, sure, like the Colts and Manning, it isn’t unprecedented. I don’t know of any BESF players that are worth a roster spot when injured, though.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Very well said, Tim
These are my exact feelings about our situation, to a T.
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Hey y’all I,m new here but I still think this is the Texans year. I have been a fan since day one and have seen some horrible seasons but this is our year to shine. Don’t lose faith my fellow fans. T.J will lead us in these uncertain times. Its not like we are Indy and built our team around one player, right?
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