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Houston Texans Defense: Partying Like It's 2009?

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Throughout the 2009 season, there was a huge hullaballoo about the Houston Texans having the best defense in team history.  At the time, I argued it was smoke and mirrors: we consistently under-performed against teams that played remotely talented quarterbacks, and we took advantage of the Rusty Smiths Keith Nulls of the league.  2010 proved me correct as Richard Smith Frank Bush put together one of the worst defenses in NFL history, where we were largely destroyed through the air.  When thinking about the quarterbacks we've faced so far in 2011, the similarities are glaring.  So let's take a deeper look at your Houston Texans' 2011 defense (h/t Barryfromtexas for the idea).

Star-divide

First, let's take a look at the QBs (with QB Rating) we've faced in 2011.  Please try to keep the snickering to a minimum:

That's an unweighted average of 82, which is, shockingly, a solid 4 points higher than what we faced in 2009.  The 2011 difference is basically Andy Dalton vs. Colt McCoy.  Not huge, but it is meaningful.

Let's look at how we've performed against the run vs. team's averages this year:

2011_vs

Ah, well, this looks not dissimilar to 2009: we're stuffing the box (Note: We aren't.) and forcing crappy quarterbacks to beat us through the air.  Aside from the Daniel Thomas experience against Miami, we've held teams right at or (at times, far) below their season average.  Clearly, teams are making up for their rushing deficits through the air as we often saw in 2009:

2011_vs

Ummmm, okay.  Or not.

If there is one aspect to worry about on the chart above, it's that two of the three best QBs we've faced (Brees and Flacco) have put up larger than their average games against us.  Is this a concern going forward?  The best QB we face over our remaining games, as rated by QB rating, is Matt Hasselbeck.  After that, it's Andy Dalton and Matt Ryan.  It's a concern, but it's not a deal-killer (unlike herpes).

If we're going to look at the similarities, let's look at what's changed.  Bernard Pollard is gone, which was a huge, obvious strength against the run, but a bigger weakness in pass defense.  Johnathan JosephGlover Quin at safety, Danieal Manning, and, yes, even Kareem Jackson, who is probably an upgrade over the 2009 version of Dunta Robinson, are now in the fold.  Frank Bush is coaching one of the worst linebacker corps in the league in Methopotamia.

But there's something even bigger at work.  In 2009, your Houston Texans collected just 30 sacks all season.  Mario Williams had 9 of those all by himself.  After just nine games in 2011, we've already tallied 24 sacks, and it's no longer a one-man show to accomplish that feat.

Conclusion: Are there similarities between the 2009 and 2011 Texans?  Yes, indeed.  In both years, we've played a collection of pretty crappy QBs during a Golden Era of sorts for QBs around the league.  But the similarities, essentially, end there.  The 2011 Texans are getting to the QB, forcing turnovers (17 interceptions and forced fumbles already vs. 24 in all of 2009), and are coached by Wade Phillips instead of Frank Bush.

That's not to say we are a Top 5 defense in the NFL right now (we aren't by advanced metrics), or that we won't struggle against better passing teams (we will).  In other words, we still have holes, but they aren't as glaring because of who we've faced so far.  They aren't as exploitable, either.  For the rest of the regular season, any weaknesses shouldn't be a concern because of our match-ups, and that's great news in and of itself (though losing Mario is a tremendous blow).  Jumping from one of the worst defenses, literally, in NFL history to where we are today is a huge testament to our organizational strategy and, in a massive change, an acknowledgement of what this team needs.  But if we just happen to be playing a bunch of fairly crummy QBs this year?  Well, dang.

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And I have no idea why – but it makes me happy :)

I think this year’s defense is the real deal – just from the “eye test”

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 6, 2011 8:50 PM CST reply actions  

And a rec

Not because of the mention, but because of the pic :)

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 6, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This...this I like

I really don’t quite get what happened in the Baltimore game, but I’ll echo what Rivers said post the New Orleans one….few teams can spread out Houston like that and pick it apart. Fortunately for Wade’s group, New Orleans and Green Bay are in the NFC. Not having that stud pass rusher will make that worse should Houston meet those teams.

The rush defense startles me, but that’s what happens when your ILB starts to produce behind penetrating Ninjas and Badgers.

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by TexansDC on Nov 6, 2011 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

Perhaps

FO has us at 11th, which, considering strength of schedule, seems more accurate to me. From a pure eyeball test, I’d put Baltimore, NY Jets, Detroit, and San Francisco definitely ahead of us, but we’re in the next level of Jacksonville, Cincy, and Atlanta. Washington would’ve been up there before they got torn apart today.

As for time of possession, I’m just not a huge believer in it as a whole. The 2009 Texans gave up several huge plays (Chris Johnson x2, MJD, etc.), whereas in 2011 that’s not a problem.

As for 2009 as a whole, Pollard played the entire season in the box. You can’t do that in the long-term and win, but we (he) was able to get away with it for the season. In 2010, this “strategy” was exploited ridiculously.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 6, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

just as the nfl is not transitive

I don’t believe we need to trust advanced metrics. At this point, regular old stats are probably as accurate a predictor of future results. (not very accurate)

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by texanphil on Nov 6, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I like looking at the team as a whole.

Baltimore, Jets, Detroit, 49ers…all teams with worse offenses than the Texans.

And I think the Texans offense stats are artificially low because they haven’t had to do a shootout game. They’ve been playing with the lead so much.

But in general, a more balanced team that has a functional offense and defense Is A Good Thing. Can win in shootouts or punchouts.

I didn’t buy 2009 at all. Said it at the time. I’m buying 2011. Johnathan Joseph I think is the biggest difference maker between the years if you don’t count Wade. But I sure hope that Antonio Smith isn’t too hurt. Team’s injury margin of error is limited.

by StephS on Nov 6, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

This^^

I even heard Cowher say yesterday we might be the most balanced team in the NFL. If we meet Baltimore in the playoffs again with AJ the results will be different. Flacco is pretty mediocre and had his game of the year against us.

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by Mumford on Nov 7, 2011 6:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Last year

The only decent QB we faced we’re Peyton, Eli, rivers, and Vick

Yet we were worst in the league
I’ll take whatever improvements we made over last year.

by Bleach Master on Nov 6, 2011 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

love where we are but not drinking the kewlaid...

we did what we are suppose to do to lesser opponents (CLE, JAX, TEN, etc….)…i would like for them to dominate a team that otherwise is difficult to dominate…ATL or even @TB…actually forget dominating, just winning.

I know the team grows in confidence with each win (any win) but FINDING a way to win against a good team has to be a huge boost.

we are getting to point with this team that a let down against an inferior team might not be as bad as losing to GOOD team that they need to beat to start being in the “mix”…yes i am confused too now.

2011 Season is the Reason!!!

by TexanSam on Nov 6, 2011 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

Dominating inferior opponents...

is the hallmark of championship teams. Not necessarily winning close games against good opponents.

Read this:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2005/fo-fox-guts-and-stomps

Stomp stomp stomp.

by StephS on Nov 6, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats a very interesting article

Would there be any updated rankings for current day?

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by Riott on Nov 6, 2011 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

NICE-H

STOMP STOMP STOMP away my beloved Texans!!!!!!!!!!!

2011 Season is the Reason!!!

by TexanSam on Nov 8, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I would also point out

That we dominated Pittsburgh as well, the score just didn’t bare it out. This team is getting better as the year goes on. Once we get AJ back, and if we can avoid any more injuries for the love of God, I would expect that to continue.

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by Mumford on Nov 7, 2011 6:53 AM CST up reply actions  

in pro football

I agree. College is a different story. See my Coogs and Boise State for the last 5 years.

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by texanphil on Nov 6, 2011 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, that's a function of the bizarre post-season rituals.

And the whole conference mishmash.

Along with the whole post-season debate I want to add another question – why have conferences at all anymore?

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by Xiane on Nov 6, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

True

But I believe we can extract a certain level of predictive value from football stats, even if its not entirely accurate as phil argues (and with which I agree). There are a myriad of variables that must be considered. For example, I predicted a big win at METH while MDC predicted a loss. We both have stats at hand, but I liked our match-up while he didn’t. Also, we shall beat his prediction into a dead horse like substance, but I digress.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 6, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not that I dislike doing statistical analysis, or discount the predictive or explanatory value of stats

advanced or otherwise. I’m a fan.

It’s just a reminder that in the final analysis it only matters that you beat who you play and that there should be no sense that your team isn’t quite what it should be, as long as they keep winning. I probably spend more time than more doing all sorts of comparisons, but I’ve also had to endure endless lines like “Well the Rockets never beat the Bulls.” Such that I’ve refined my answer down to: they beat who showed up. The question is interesting in a way, but a team can only defeat it’s opponents, it can’t defeat theory, history or legend.

 To wit, I don’t think Aaron Schatz of FO has ever come to grips with the fact that the 16-0 Patriots weren’t champions. But they aren’t. Despite all their prowess, The NY Giants beat who showed up, and it was NE. The argument was settled, and the stats lost.

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by Xiane on Nov 6, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

"They beat who showed up"

That is all that matters

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 6, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

umm...

we havent faced painter…we played the collins led jolts

by skeezy12 on Nov 6, 2011 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

This is true

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 6, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't believe I missed that.

Thank you.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 6, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

KJax-qua-better-than-2009-Dunta

made my head asplode. Not because you are wrong, but because I think you are right. Whoa.

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by MDC on Nov 6, 2011 10:26 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

And it comes back to my point that

We’re just being a little too hard on K-Jax because of his shitty rookie season.

He’s not that bad. He’s not a CB1, but he’s almost an average CB2. That’s only 24(I think) yrs old that is finally able to work with a pretty good DC and a respectable secondary coach.

In time, he’ll be decent.

/cue Rivers and his destruction of this assumption

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by Jordann on Nov 6, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...

Bc of his shitty first season he gets thrown at as if whoever he is guarding is a legitimate #1 receiver, see Thomas from Miami, and the stats aren’t looking too good for him.

But I believe one full offseason with a good D Coord. could fix him right up…his pass awareness for a starting CB is horrible.

by SMITHILLIAK on Nov 6, 2011 11:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ehh

He still doesn’t look very good to me. Colt’s “just throw it in the direction of KJ” pass when he got leveled by Reed yesterday doesn’t make me like him any more either.

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by Mumford on Nov 7, 2011 6:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like you feel sorry for him and it's all the fault of everyone around him and none of his....

I couldn’t disagree more. He was the worst of the bad last season. He couldn’t do anything. There are many young players that could have risen above that. He sunk lower than low. Stop blaming everyone around him. Stop trying to rewrite history. Please! He sucked! If he gets better, yes, it’s because he has started to get it. Bad will from fans? That’s holding him back? Ha!

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 7, 2011 7:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

I posted a comment a few days ago, basically wondering if KJ would suck as bad if he had started at CB2 with a solid CB1 in place, and was playing like he plays now.

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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 7, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

It's funny, but KJ still is not very good

He is picked on all the time by the opposing offense and he rarely defends the pass well. Sure, the other CB is Johnathan Joseph and that should be expected. Last season there was no Johnathan Joseph and he was picked on. What’s the answer? The coaches? The situation? The salary cap? Youth? These are all reasons you state above. I say it is KJ. He is still not a very good player. You’re uncomfortable with punching-bag talk. Perhaps you would like to change history, blame it on all these other reasons, and people would start saying good things about him. He is a punchline for when things go bad for this pass D.

You said most draft picks need good situations, fits. What do you suggest? Trade him, sit him down, play him? They are playing him. He has experienced players to draw from. He has coaching. With all that I have barely noticed any improvement. He still gets beat. He still causes interference when he gets beat. The only thing I would give him right now is his tackling and also he hasn’t given up. But, fan criticism is what it is. He has earned the criticism. All the writers here have criticized him. I don’t think the critics are going to stop just because you want them to. He hasn’t done anything to earn the fans support except to keep showing up and I admire that. I hope he gets better. But, he hasn’t shown anything except occasional flashes and I don’t think that does it for the writers of BRB. They pan him and they roast him, and he is the constant butt of jokes. It’s an automatic LOL! to refer to KJ when a laugh is needed.

So, I don’t know what you’re saying. Stop panning him? Don’t pay any attention to when he trails a WR when he runs his routes? It’s not his fault, it’s the coaches? What? The difference between 2010 and 2011 KJ,.. are you trying to say there is a difference besides the coaching is better, and the experience next to him is better? He’s still a rookie, so be nice? I’m missing the drift. The team is winning more games and keeping the other team from scoring so much, so be nice? The safety play over the top is better so be nice? KJ is still KJ. He is a punchline here on BRB. He hasn’t risen above that, yet.

Are you saying that he will get better? Is this you foreshadowing the rise of KJ the future Pro-Bowler? That would be an interesting take on KJ. You could take a lot of credit for that one.

But, you are right. The 2010 Texans were pitiful. I feel sorry that KJ was put in that position.

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 7, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there is a compromise

b/w what Rip and Steph say. The simple fact being: don’t GIVE him a spot b/c of draft position, rather, force him to earn it. I think it’s clear that KJax is being outplayed by both Allen and McCain, and that’s a ‘good problem’ to have. I don’t think Allen is that bad at all, and I actually feel that McCain has potential to fill in as our eventual #2 corner.

To be quite frank, I think KJax’s frame, speed, and skill set fits better into a strong safety. The coaching staff still feels he is a legit corner, which is fine. This year is much more like his rookie season than last year. He was expected to have a learning curve. Is he bad? Sure. Is that not to say he hasn’t improved from last season? No. I think that’s unfair to him. He seems to be understanding coverage a bit better, and takes advantage of “getting picked on,” more so than last year. There is clearly room for improvement, but the idea that we expect him to be awesome right away seems to be unfair to him.

Draft position is irrelevant once he’s on the field. Performance, improvement, and how he fits into the team’s scheme become more important determinants of what to expect from a player. With that said, there is no reason to assume he will be great, nor, to act like he can’t be a valuable contributor to this team going forward.

by wiseonekms on Nov 7, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I still am in favor of Allen starting

Not that he is that much better than KJ, in fact he might not be better at all. But he seems to have a nose for the ball, better instincts, or however you would like to describe it. Even if you say that KJ is slightly better on a consistent basis, I would be willing to trade that slight downgrade in consistency for a better ability at a big play. There is no doubt that the situation he was placed in last year had a role in the horribleness that was Kareem, but the question is how much of a role? While he may be better this year (not sure he could have gotten worse) he still seems to be chasing the WR on a regular basis, or giving a 7 yard cushion on a play at the 3 yard line, and still seems to have trouble locating the ball. I have heard others say that the system we play does not suit his skill set, if that is the case then why keep trying to force it?

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by Mumford on Nov 7, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Allen and KJ are like a set of tin foil covered rabbit ears

If you move them around enough you’re eventually going to hit a sweet spot that gets you better reception, but it doesn’t last long.

Personally, I prefer Allen for the occasional big play potential that you mentioned.

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by Hydroshock on Nov 7, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree.

Well said, Steph.

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by beefy on Nov 7, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

When you watch the replay

You’ll see that both players where arm wrestling each other all the way down the field. They probably could’ve nailed KJ for not turning his head, but for the most part it was a good no-call.

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by Hydroshock on Nov 7, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

He really is...

Lazy as shit.

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by beefy on Nov 7, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

You just can't argue with fundamental truths like that...

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by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Based on the number

of yards given up per game, the Texans are now the number 1 defense in the NFL.

by Bobbythegreat on Nov 6, 2011 11:15 PM CST reply actions  

They need a Wade Appreviation Day at Reliant

Wade plush dolls, Wade bobbleheads, a statue….the works.

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by TexansDC on Nov 6, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

As long as said statue has him wearing pants.

That’s all I ask.

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by UprootedTexan on Nov 6, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

...or maybe just a bust...

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by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm Happy for Bum

He’s got to have a smile on his face.

by SuperSerial on Nov 7, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

If you heard him call in on the 610 postgame show, you would have little doubt of this.

You could hear the pride/joy over how this defense is playing come screaming through the phone line.

by USMC_JA on Nov 7, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Delivered as advertised?

I think he exceeded everyone’s wildest dreams.

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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Nov 7, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Is there such thing as a perfect comment??

This one comes pretty close, if so.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Nov 7, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

no longer a one man show....

because he isn’t here……

wahhh, wahh, waaaaaaaahhhhh

.................

by Schlauton on Nov 6, 2011 11:26 PM CST reply actions  

Ha

That Archer episode was on last night.

Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.

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by Autra on Nov 6, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions  

#25

I’m thinking he is gettin it guys,…coaching makes a difference. Just to compare,who was the worst cb on the Cowboys,Bills until Wade got there? Also I believe Cody is having a great year.He does what is asked of him…am I wrong?I’m not glorifying anyone, I would enjoy some opinons though. Yes I am drunk.

by Fastalkerus_Prime on Nov 7, 2011 1:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yes, he does what he is asked to do, but we can't expect more

He is not a weak player, but he is not also a threat to the offense, because he has his limitations. No one talks about him like Ngata. Who is, I know? But, no one fears Cody. But, you are correct. He is not the loser that some BRB writers would like you to think, who have written pieces on just that subject, detailing individual plays where he was beaten. Well, that happens. By the end of this season when the D is highly ranked after 16 games, the naysayers can eat crow.

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 7, 2011 7:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't care who you are, Cody is one funny SOB.

His whole “Cody Island” lock down reply in postgame interviews had me LOL’ing all the way home from the game. And if you have not seen either the Halloween or Ninja additions of “On the Nose,” you are truly missing out.

by USMC_JA on Nov 7, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

so we don't have to let them catch ball??

Glad wade could come in and clear up the rules for the secondary. Should we start resting players? We don’t really need two rb’s running for 100 yards each game against most of the teams were facing here on out. Run some emu oil on the hammies!! Go Texans!!!

by MiamiTexas on Nov 7, 2011 6:24 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

"Who needs a helmet...."

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 7, 2011 7:09 AM CST up reply actions  

With Cush being promoted to team Captain can we call him Captain Crunch?

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by SteelBlueUSMC on Nov 7, 2011 8:07 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

lol

I like this idea!

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by texanslady on Nov 7, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I want this as my wallpaper...

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by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

What's more potent than unicorn blood?

I hope someone opens that wound every week. That is pure, gamma-radiated goodness!
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by CTacc on Nov 7, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Dreessen apparently has a weekly bloody face too

It just never quite heals over.

I just wish I had a game pic of that too

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by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

"No one makes me bleed my own blood"

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
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by The Night Owl on Nov 7, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

And of course another

"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell

by Barryfromtexas on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

"I have some fava beans and a nice keeeANtee..."

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by DilloTex on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Love the sneer through the blood!

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Nov 7, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Flacco

He is not one of the top three QBs the Texans have faced. In fact, his game against the Texans was far and away his best game of the season and there is a lot of talk in Baltimore that he is not the guy for the future, if only there was an alternative right now. He is stinking it up if it wasn’t for his game against the Texans. He just plain and simple had a good game. Everything he threw up there was caught. It happens. I wouldn’t hold it against the Texans pass D.

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by Rip Jersey on Nov 7, 2011 7:08 AM CST reply actions  

What's your guys' opinions on Glover Quin so far?

I live way far from Houston so I don’t get to see enough games. How has he been after his position switch this year?

by was385 on Nov 7, 2011 7:15 AM CST reply actions  

hasnt been lighting it up

but has been solid, and hasnt made even one giant mistake I can remember. had some issues in the saints game, but so did everyone else. guy is just going to get better

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by AllenOU on Nov 7, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

eerily similar.

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by beefy on Nov 7, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he blew coverage on a touchdown at least once

but I don’t remember what game

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by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Saints

Jimmy Graham used him. He’s also “credited” with Reggie Wayne’s TD in the opener.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

He's done well.

Nothing really big, positively or negatively, for the most part. He’s a tackling son of a bitch, though. Everyone in the secondary is, actually.
But yeah… GQ is doing well, and should continue to improve with more time back there.

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by beefy on Nov 7, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

He completely stood up Daniel Thomas in the red-zone against Miami.

Stopped a for-sure touchdown. For a converted corner, he absolutely brings it against the run.

by Nashmeister on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

this quote is amazing

The Browns — who lost right tackle Tony Pashos to a knee injury in the second quarter — were no match on this day for Reed, who was replacing injured Pro Bowler Mario Williams. Reed stormed in off the edge all game, sacking McCoy twice and pounding him three other times.

"Today was kind of a weird experience," said Reed. "They were setting me free a lot off the edge and I don’t know if it was just their protection scheme or the crowd noise but that was fun. I did miss a couple of opportunities because I couldn’t believe they weren’t blocking me."

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/11/cleveland_browns_qb_colt_mccoy_9.html

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by nolander on Nov 7, 2011 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

I was truly amazed by how many times they let him run free off the edge

Phillips doesn’t use that many wild blitz schemes. The Browns coaches and players should have been able to get someone on him. Tackle, tight end, RB chipping, whoever. It seemed like every other passing down he just had a straight line to McCoy.

by was385 on Nov 7, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

It should be noted

That the passer ratings for Big Ben and Hasselbeck are misleading. Neither had as good a game as those ratings might indicate.

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by Ethan Matz on Nov 7, 2011 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

Those are their overall ratings

Not specifically against us.

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by bigfatdrunk on Nov 7, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

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