Kubiak Konundrum -- Atlanta Falcons Edition
This week on the Kubiak Konundrum, I'm going to lead not with my usual senseless blather but with an evaluation of a specific decision because it says more than I ever could.
4Q. Approx 2:28 left. 2nd and 9. 17-10, Texans lead.
After the Texans ran for a gain of about a yard, Atlanta used its last timeout. Kubiak was faced with the decision simply to run the ball two more times or to get a little more aggressive and try one pass attempt. The former would basically concede not getting the first down, but the Falcons would only have the two minute warning to stop the clock and their time would be dwindling. My quick calculations guessed the Falcons would have approximately 1:10 left and would get the ball around their own thirty. While the latter decision of attempting another pass would give the Texans the opportunity to go into victory formation if successful, it would risk an incompletion, which would give the Falcons around 35 seconds more with which to work.
In real time, my vote was just to run the ball two more times, trust the D, and milk as much time as possible. Which is of course what Kubiak did. The result: the Falcons got the ball with 58 seconds left (even better!) on the 30 yard line. Yes, the Falcons had enough time to move move the ball and get off two thirty yard tosses into the endzone. Yes, Julio Jones should have caught that ball. But, imagine what the Falcons could have done with 35 more seconds. This move to run three straight times was not earth shattering but a solid job of clock management. I give it a 4.
Contrast that clock management with that of Falcons coach Mike Smith. How terrible was Smith's decision to call a timeout the series before facing a 4th and 6? That decision gave them one timeout left, basically making the 4th and 6 play do-or-die. Had Smith kept the timeout, Kubiak might have even been more tempted to try for a first down and thus more likely to stop the clock one more time with an incompletion. Furthermore, had Mike Smith chosen to kick a field goal instead of go for the 4th down, while keeping his timeout, his team could have been going for the win with more time with which to play.
These aren't definite no-brainer decisions, but the small nuanced ones and how they work out make a coach. You had coaches from two playoff-contending teams making tough calls down the stretch. One had already been much maligned for a late game decision earlier in the season. And it wasn't ours. Ours, in fact, outcoached the other in the final five minutes. I've said it before this season--it's a great Texans world we're living in.
On to the other decisions:
1=terrible call, 2=negative, 3=neutral, 4=positive, and 5=outstanding.
1Q. 8:24 left. 3rd and 7. 0-0. Ball on Falcons' 15.
Of course, we all know what happened here. I'll be as brief as I can and try to mask my rage. T.J. Yates threw a forward pass, everyone in the stadium saw it as such, and one ref even called it incomplete. The only person who didn't think it was incomplete was one Falcon, who picked up the ball and returned it for a touchdown. Refs changed their minds, called it a fumble, and called back the TD because of a penalty yet still awarded the Falcons the ball. Kubiak challenged, and Fox officiating guru Mike Pereira echoed what we all knew--it was an incomplete pass. The refs inexplicably didn't overturn the call.
We've been preaching on the Kubiak Konundrum all year that for the sake of objectivity, we are as much as we possibly can judging the results, not our opinions, of what Kubiak should have done. For this reason, I can't give the call a 4 since it didn't work. But, I also can't give it less than a 3 since it was so obviously the right call. Some of you might call me out on straying from the company line, but sometimes we need to stop overanalyzing and use our own eyes. I wish the officials would have done the same. Still, I'll let you all decide in the poll if the play should be a negative since it didn't work, or even a positive despite our guidelines since it was so obvious. In this case, turning the judging over to y'all will be my objectivity.
3Q. 4:35 left. 4th and 7. Texans up 10-3. Texans ball on the Falcons' 37.
Kubiak chose to eschew a punt and have Neil Rackers attempt a long field goal. Rackers came up short, giving the Falcons great field position, which they turned into their only touchdown of the day, tying the game.
For the sake of consistency, I can't hammer Kubiak for this. His continual reluctance to forego the long field goal in these situations has been one of the things I have consistently found fault with this year. I've seen Rackers hit 54 yarders. Supposedly, he was hitting them up to 60 in warm-ups. It didn't work out, so it gets a 2, but I think it was clear and justifiable that Kubiak was looking for points anywhere he could find them and trusted his defense. Chime in if you think I'm being too easy on the call.
4Q. 7:42 left. 10-10 tie. Texans ball on Falcons' 9 yard line. 4th and 1.
This is the big one, perhaps what will be Kubiak's defining call of the regular season. First, Kubiak pulls out the red flag, considering challenging the spot as so many on the game thread were yelling typing for him to do. However, subsequent replays showed the spot was accurate, so Kubiak wisely buried the flag in his pocket. The call turned out to be a fairly obvious one. I'm not giving it its own write up, but I include it to highlight how many small and important decisions occur for a head coach throughout the game.
Then, Kubiak decided not to take the sure three points and the lead, instead putting the ball in Arian Foster's angelic hands on 4th and 1. Seven yards, first down. Two plays later, a touchdown, and control of the game that they would not relinquish.
Leading up to the decision, I was hesitantly urging Kubiak to go for it. Still, it was a very tough call. They had been limiting our run game all day, often stopping it for no gain or worse throughout the day. We had a rookie QB, so a play-action was not going to happen. The Falcons could sell out against the run. Kubiak threw all those factors out the window, had the perfect play (which he had ready just for that very situation and almost used earlier on a fourth and 1 until Mike Brisiel jumped offsides), and his team executed.
For the gutsiest decision of the year, Kubiak gets his second 5 of the season and gives another example of how those that give him the Konserviak tag are vastly mistaken.
Personally, I thought this game was Kubiak's best coaching job of the year, perhaps his career. Not all the decisions worked out, but he showed tremendous testicular fortitude, made tough calls that his team could believe in without flinching, and won a game in which his team was not favored, even if perhaps they should have been. I know the neverending injuries break our hearts one ligament at a time and make us wonder if Bud Adams left a cursed Indian burial ground under the foundations of Reliant Stadium, but the team's persistence in overcoming the setbacks is a testament to Kubiak's ability to keep his players focused amidst turmoil. Yes, Wade Phillips's addition has clearly been the biggest change of the season coaching-wise; however, one could also look at the situation and come to the conclusion that having a legit NFL defense--a great one at that--is finally allowing Kubiak to come into his own as a head coach.
The scorecard:
Note: Last week's Konundrum did not evaluate game decisions because of my lack of having a TV to watch the game. With no decisions brought up in the comments and upon finally seeing the game on replay, I don't think there was anything of note to discuss.
Falcons Game:
2: 1 play.
4: 1 play.
5: 1 play.
TBD: 1 play
Season Totals:
1: 1 play.
2: 7 plays.
3: 10 plays.
4: 10 plays.
5: 2 plays.
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Can't fault him...
Upon watching replays and seeing it on the field moving forward, that “fumble” should have been challenged regardless of whether or not the zebras ruled it an incomplete pass or not. Refs are fallable and can be corrupted. Eyes, however, cannot. We saw it move forward while TJ Yates was stationary. There’s no way that was a fumble and the refs botched it.
I've got nothin'...
A challenge would have resulted in another 15 yard personal foul
Since the Falcon player picked it up and ran it all the way back it was technically a scoring play. All scoring plays are reviewed, and Leavy did go through the motions to create the illusion of an official review. If Kubiak had thrown the challenge flag it would’ve been a penalty again.
Still, the call was the worst bullshit in the history of bullshit calls. There was no way that was a fumble.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
forgive my stupidity
Kubiak did challenge? This whole time I thought it was an official review.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
As I understand what happened...
The ref blew the call and allowed the Falcon to run the ball in for a pseudo-TD…
At this point it WOULD have triggered a penalty if Kubes had challenged because of the automatic review of TDs…
HOWEVER, the pseudo-TD was “called back” because everyone on the field with a pair of eyes and a functioning brain had proceeded to move on to the next logical play, resulting in players from the sidelines (and coaches as well) wandering onto the field while the faux-drama-of-the-“return” was playing out.
NOW Kubiak could challenge since the pseudo-TD had been “disallowed”.
Net result:
- Loss of a field goal opp for the Texans
- Loss of a challenge/time-out for the Texans
- Complete loss of any chance of respect for Leavy
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
by DilloTex on Dec 8, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What a cluster f@ck
Are there ANY good officiating crews left these days? It certainly doesn’t seem like they ever work Texans games.
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No, there is only "more bad" and "less bad"
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by professortex on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Correct top-to-bottom
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everyone on the field with a pair of eyes and a functioning brain had proceeded to move on to the next logical play,
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
You can't downgrade him because the refs screwed the call up
Given the fact that we were driving for the early lead, and given that with what everybody and their mother saw the odds of reversal were very high, It was the right thing to do to throw the flag. 100%.
I don't think deciding to run it on the last drive was conceding anything
how many first downs did we get by running on 3rd during the game?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
In that scenario
With the other team doing everything to stop the run, the offense gives up the ball after three plays way more often than not when only running. Conceding might have been strong, but the concept stands that passing once gave them a much better chance.
Probably true.
But being up by seven made taking time off the clock more important. Making ATL drive the length of the field AND have to score a TD while working with time pressure changes the dynamics. IF the lead was 3 or less, then I think passing for the first down might have been a better option.
just curious
What play got his 1 rating this year? and the other 5 this year?
With the injuries to Quarterbacks Matt Schaub, and Matt Leinart, the entire fate of the Houston Texans 2011 season rest on the right arm of.... T.J Yates????
Oh boy...
Other ratings
His 1 was when he challenged a scoring play and got a 15 yard penalty. Inexcusable either not knowing the rules or getting caught up in the moment in my eyes.
His 5, as voted by the people, was challenging the interception on the goal line in the Bucs game when it didn’t look like it would be overturned.
I could've sworn I saw a game this Sunday
Or maybe a clip of it that showed a coach challenging a scoring play but not getting penalized for throwing the flag. I think it was the Sunday night game. I still don’t think that he should be faulted for throwing the flag.
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-Catch 22-
Most of the time the official will pick the flag up and let the coach know he can't challenge
I imagine the penalty was called because of something Kubiak said in the process.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Nah
When they added the new “every scoring play is reviewed” rule, they also made challenging a scoring play a 15-yard penalty.
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I'll bet that's not in the rulebook
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Or if it is I bet it's only selectively enforced
I know I’ve seen several times where the ref hands the flag back to the coach and tells him he can’t use a challenge.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Re: the poll
I was screaming at the TV for him to challenge that call. It’s not Kube’s fault if the ref was blind or too proud to admit being wrong.
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Never try to baptize a cat.
by texanslady on Dec 7, 2011 1:43 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
How about this for a Conundrum
BSPN who brought MNF from Jacksonville, last Monday night, showed aerial shots that were from a previous MNF game there. If that wasn’t bad enough; some of the shots they provided weren’t even Jacksonville! They were Charlotte!!!
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Meh details
What horrible coverage indeed
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Marc Kahlberg
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by Barryfromtexas on Dec 7, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks JMay. I always enjoy the KK.
I thought the 3rd qtr FG attempt was a fine decision. I think we, as fair minded, objective Texans fans need to be careful to judge the decision without considering the results.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
In other news, Lawrence Vickers practiced today and should be good to go for Cincy!
He’s ready to bring the pain!
Talk about good news for the running game...
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Truth,
and any team the Texans can run on, they WILL beat. If Fostate has another game like last Sunday, this one will be in the bag.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
I agree brother.
An aside, does your tag mean you ride a bike?
I had a dream. In that dream I saw a multitude of screaming people on Richmond. I saw Kubiak laughing. I saw Andre Johnson pouring champagne from a trophy on to Brian Cushings head. What does it mean?
Nope.
Sorry to say, it popped into my head because “Freedom Rider” was playing in my head when I was prompted for a userid..
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Having Neil Rackers attempt that long field goal was a 1.
At my house, people were screaming very unkind things at Kubiak when he sent the field goal team out.
The D was kicking Atlanta’s butt; they could not have scored without that short field. If Buddy Ryan had been the DC, he would have righteously poked Koob in the nose for putting his defense in that spot unnecessarily.
Other than that, Koob coached a great game, clearly better than his opposite number. Overall, I give him a 4.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Rackers legitimately nailed a FG during halftime from the 50 yard line.
Sure it’s not game conditions, but he was also not having to kick a 60 yard field goal.
I give it a 3.
I don't see how you can not give the challenge of Yates' fumble a 4.
It was a no-brainer to challenge. I honestly don’t even think that one should be listed on here because not challenging that play simply was not an option.
I agree with this. Any coach would have challenged there.
It was not a judgment call, and thus should not count for or against him.
by JBal on Dec 7, 2011 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think from here on....
we should put that “fumble” in quotations as I believe EVERYONE in the nation that was watching that game KNEW that was not a fumble.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
by txknight on Dec 7, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
/regrets only being able to rec once
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
My only criticism of Kubes last week
Was he seemed to get nervous after TJ threw that pick that got called back. I think TJ could have passed a bit more. But what do I know. I give Kubes a solid 4.
I had a dream. In that dream I saw a multitude of screaming people on Richmond. I saw Kubiak laughing. I saw Andre Johnson pouring champagne from a trophy on to Brian Cushings head. What does it mean?
Yates showed good ability to go through his reads
Watching that play back, Walter is open without the hold. That was T.J’s first read
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game winning, clock eating, drive of the year
mostly occurred after that pick, without Andre Johnson, without our starting QB, and without our backup QB against a very good team.
I say not good coaching, outstanding coaching. And amazing execution. Kudos all around on that drive.
Yates - our current game manager.
i swung by cincy jungle to see how they saw the game playing out and man thats a lonely lonely place.
i figured with their expectations of this team at the beginning of the year and what they’ve accomplished, they would be pretty jazzed. also with the extra picks for palmer and how young they are. i would be excited if i was a bengals fan. apparently not them though. that place is empty and those that do responde are so blah about everything. maybe theres a reason why mike brown is such a cheap skate. his fan base sucks. thank God im from texas.
Make Em Eat Grass
Don't know who's running the site...
…but the quality of the editors and mgmt here shouldn’t be discounted in assessing the activity level and quality of discourse.
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I dropped by earlier this week and at the time there were 8 posts with a total of 126 comments.
Rarely have a slow week like that around here.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
We do better than that in the darkest doldrums of the off-season...
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I thought about going over there and typing in the heading:
" knock, knock. Helllloooooo!, anyone here???"
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Oh my GOSH! The game is blacked out in Cincy!
They’re 7-5, in the playoff hunt and can’t fill the stadium!?!
Relax Glitter-Kitty fans, the Bengals will be going to LA before you do!
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana
I don't think so
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Actually, neither team is moving, is more like it
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
The Bengals aren't going anywhere soon.
But somebody’s going to LA. Jags, Bolts and Vikes are the likeliest carpetbaggers.
Does anyone really believe the Kitties’ new owner when he says he’ll keep the team in J’ville? I don’t. It would nearly double in value if he moved it to LA.: he would be insane not to take such an opportunity.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Technically he's not lying since he didn't say how long
Sure, he’ll keep the team in Jacksonville…..until LA is ready.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
He can't leave
They have an ironclad lease
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Absolutely no way they can buy out of it?
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
They can buy their way out of it, but the penalty is very steep.
Off the top of my head, I don’t remember what it is, but my guess is that it was designed to make it fiscally disadvantageous to play anywhere but that specific stadium.
by Tailgate Andy on Dec 8, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Seems like a $500M increase in franchise value
would be fiscally advantageous enough to make a deal happen.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Its some Muslim guy
He’s only keeping them there until he realizes that “football” doesn’t mean the same thing in America. He thought he bought a soccer team.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
The city hates the Bengals' ownership and management, and with good reason.
They are the worst cheapskates in the league about even small things and they have a knack for alienating fans and players. Carson Palmer wanted the hell out of there for good reasons.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
I feel sorry for Marvin Lewis. He's the most underrated HC in the NFL, IMO.
Somehow, he keeps producing contenders, even though he’s stuck in a crummy organization.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Re: the challenge
I agree with you all. I think it was the right decision no matter what. I just didn’t want to be seen as non objective or changing my own rules since I’m a self admitted Kubiak fan. I guess, in this instance, as a few people had pointed out, it wasn’t even really a judgement call. It had to be done. That’s why I put it up to a poll though and the people have spoken.
Good objectivity, JMay
Seriously. You have a set of rules that you stick to to keep an “even playing field” – so to speak (pardon the horrible, injury prone pun).
Follow the invalid toad.
Kubes did do a really good job this game
He is all grown up
/wipes a “perspiration tear” from eye
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I didn't vote...because I didn't get the pole....way too simple mind am I.
….all I know is…
…………..that unless you get Tebowed…..
You are the best ‘all-around’ team in the AFC.
Do not forget that this year

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Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
JMay puts one of these up every week, where he discusses and rates the tough calls Kubiak had to make in the prior game
1 means it was a terrible, bone-headed decision. 5 means it was an outstanding strategic move. For the entire season, JMay has stuck with the mantra that if the result of a decision is in any way negative, then it deserves at best a 2. This week, due to the objectively horrible decision made by the refs in the review, he was reluctant to give Kubes a 2 even though the call cost Houston a challenge and a timeout.
Off subject
But I think it is soooo funny that BSPN does not have photo for Yates in salary cap football.
I guess because they are the Whirled Wide Beater in Borscht.
And stuff.
Follow the invalid toad.
also off subject
to anyone that was at the game- did dunta robinson get booed when he was announced in the starting lineup?
Rag doll? More like brick fuckin' wall, bro.
by The Chris Myers Fan Club on Dec 7, 2011 6:04 PM CST reply actions
No
They don’t usually annouce individual opposing player’s names, just the team as a whole and they run out on the field.
by DerrickDoll 7 on Dec 7, 2011 6:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The team as a whole was pretty roundly booed
Especially because they ran out while the announcer was still introducing Warren Moon.
OT
I’ve yet to get a response from Fox about them opting not to show the Texans vs Panthers on 12-18 in the Austin and San Antonio area. Those of us in those areas need support, get in their ears.
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
Well its off to BWW again i guess.
Pretty pathetic how the cowhos get all coverage whether their good or bad.
SUCCESS!!!
KABB Fox San Antonio WILL SHOW THE TEXANS VS PANTHERS!!!
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
Occupy Austin NEXT!!
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Shweet!
Anyone have that link that showed what games were being shown where? I don’t get the Sunday paper so I don’t have a TV guide for the Amarillo area and I can’t ck that far ahead on the cable guide.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Broadcast maps...
http://the506.com/nflmaps/2011/wk14.html
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Part of Methopotamia looks blacked out on that map. Can that be right?
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Looks like Carolina, Tennessee, Cincy and Miami
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
They are playing on Fox
you have to look at the Fox map at early games.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
As far as I know, Cincy and San Diego are the only ones blacked out.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
...if you have a few minutes...Could be a conspiracy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GguFmYRryz8
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Re: The last drive
Looking at it with 20/20 hindsight and seeing the results, I’d pass on 3rd down, and here’s why.
1. Time wasn’t too much of a factor on that last drive. If there was 35 seconds left on the clock after Julio’s drop instead of 0 they are facing 4th and 10. Sure it changes the plays they call, but the sidelines are probably taken away by this competent defensive coaching staff, causing only one or two more plays.
2. If we pass and get a first down we take the victory formation and don’t punt, saving our rookie punter/special teams beast.
All that said, I liked the run-times-three in real time, and if it happens this weekend I’d want Kubiak to make the same call again.
Yates - our current game manager.
"Sure it changes the plays they call"
Well, exactly. They wouldn’t have gone for the endzone on third down for one. They would have had 43 seconds from our 30. Now, you can’t make the alternate futures that linear, but that’s just an example. To me, the whole point of leading with this decision, was that that extra run, measured by results, was JUST enough to keep them from having a comfortable shot to tie.

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