Gillette ProGlide Top 5 Defensive Plays: Week 13
The fine folks at Gillette --- makers of the incomparable Fusion ProGlide Power, which is great for shaving whatever you might wish to shave (we won't judge you here) --- have sponsored a new series of posts that will run through the end of the regular season. The concept is simple: I pick what I think were the five most important defensive plays from the previous game, and you vote for the play that you think was truly the cat's pajamas. (If that explanation is not clear enough, see last week's post for an example. Also consider remedial education.)
This week's selections come from a bizarre game that saw a Kareem Jackson interception but zero sacks. Which is another way of saying that it wasn't easy to come up with five plays that stood out in a positive manner. But I soldiered on and did it for you. You're welcome.
Now jump already and engage in some Texans-related suffrage!
1. Kareem Jackson's interception. This one has been dissected ad nauseam in the comments around here, so you know the long and short of it already. From what anyone can discern, Jackson was (shockingly) the only player in the secondary who sniffed out the flea flicker, and he covered a lot of ground to get between the ball and Roddy White. Sure, KJax was helped to some degree by the fact that Michael Turner's pitch back to Matt Ryan was high and threw off the timing of the play and from J.J. Watt's pressuring of Ryan, but no one thought any less of Helen Keller just because Anne Sullivan hooked a sister up with some assistance. KJax is our Helen Keller.
2. Jason Allen's interception. Not long after KJax picked off Ryan, Allen jumped underneath Julio Jones and picked off a pass, returning it to the Falcons' 40. I'd like to take this opportunity to invite Allen to stop running all the way to the endzone and celebrating when you did not score a TD, because you are just begging for a Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty, which will cause me great consternation and result in my wishing that bad things would happen to you. Sincerely, MDC.
3. Glover Quin and Earl Mitchell's tackle of Michael Turner for a 3-yard loss. Last play of the first quarter, the Falcons line up with the TE right and FB offset to the right. On the snap, the TE and Roddy White block back toward the center to try to set the edge, the FB (whose name I don't care enough to look up) is the lead blocker, and Turner gets a pitch to the right. The defense swarms to the ball, Quin submarines the lead blocker, hitting Turner at the feet right as Mitchell, who dodged a block by Tyson Clabo, flew in and hit Turner up high.
4. Jason Allen's defense of Julio Jones in the end zone. Facing 3rd & 1 with 2:41 to play, Ryan took a shot at the end zone, targeting Jones up the right sideline. Allen played Jones perfectly, maintaining inside position, looking back at the exact right moment, and using the sideline as an extra defender. Jones came down with the ball, but landed out of bounds. Just textbook coverage of a sideline route.
5. Dunta Robinson's defensive holding of Kevin Walter. Hey, nowhere did it say that the defensive plays that I picked had to be Texans' defensive players. And this play was huge. On the second play of the fourth quarter, with the score tied at 10, T.J. Yates (who is a homeless man's Aaron Rodgers) made his only rookie mistake of the day, telegraphing a pass in the right flat to Arian Foster. Mike Peterson stepped in front of it, picked it off, and took it to the house, seemingly giving Atlanta the lead . . . except Dunta had been fooled on an outside-inside move by Walter, and he grabbed the wideout's jersey to keep from getting burned deep. Flag on the play, touchdown negated, automatic first down, and the Texans would drive the length of the field for Arian Foster's go-ahead touchdown.
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It's early yet.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
I had forgotten about that play...
Luckily though, there was still a Quin option available, and I’m honor-bound to vote for anything involving him. If there were a week 12-13 MVP award, Quin would be a shoe-in, in my opinion.
/hipster nash enjoys having a rather obscure favorite player.
He had back to back TD killing plays at the goalline
The pass he broke up to White on 2nd and goal, and then he immediately followed that with about a 40" vertical leap to bat away the pass to Gonzales.
Very impressive
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Correction
The tackle of White. He caught it but Quin brought him down immediately
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I have to say Dunta's holding penalty saving Yates from a Pick-6
Especially considering that drive ended in a TD by Foster
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
Until proven otherwise, I'd say it was a fluke
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
^^this^^
I need a repeat performance. Or two. Or five.
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
by Christopher H on Dec 7, 2011 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
He was there and frankly, I was expecting a penalty or botched catch from him
So, yes, he outperformed all expectations. That is not the best vote of confidence in a player….
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I wouldn't say good day...
But my general theory on corners is that I’d prefer somebody who gets burned sometimes, but makes an equal amount of great plays. And for once, he made a great play. His hit (though it didn’t jar the ball lose) was pretty damn sweet as well. I thought he screwed the pooch a few times, but those two plays moved him up several notches in my book.
definitely loved the hit.
Didn’t realize he had a hit stick like that. Now just bring that every week. Maybe this Wade D can bring out any if any potential he may have.
by HabitualHoustonFan on Dec 7, 2011 10:59 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I still question
what you guys are seeing. He still looks pretty terrible to me.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
echo that
I think it is blind squirrel syndrome that KJ is experiencing
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 8, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the replay!
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Went with Dunta's huge play.
That completely changed the game.
I'd like to say that if Referee Bill Leavy steps into Reliant Center again
I may not be able to restrain myself long enough for him to deliver another call. I’ve seen horrendous officiating in HS games, college games, and NFL games. This was by far the worst ever. So many bad calls and non-calls that it would not surprise me if he (and maybe his whole crew) get a leave of absence (quiet suspension).
I voted #1 for K-Jax
I’ve been riding his ass since he was drafted, and this play showed he has learned some discipline and technique. It also happened early in the game to set a statement and invigorate the team that this is “our house” and that trickery won’t fly here.
Don't mean to troll...
But, what do you think the chances of Johnson playing on Sunday are? Just a curious Bengals fan.
He won't be playing.
We have found success without him in the lineup. Granted, it has been more difficult. But that is what will influence Kubiak to sit him regardless if he seems kinda ok.
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
by Christopher H on Dec 7, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Even if he's listed at quesionable, he won't play
No sense of taking a chance at reaggravating his hamstring
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Off subject
NFL network seem to have SOUND FX on the texans almost every week!!!
PROPS?!?!!?!?
2011 Season is the Reason!!!
here is one of them
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8249df34/Sound-FX-Blaine-Gabbert
2011 Season is the Reason!!!
by TexanSam on Dec 7, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That was just depressing.
Gabbert: Bro, bro, , bro!
Gabbert: Bro, bro, we’re gonna go 97 yards, bro!
/gets sacked by Barwin 4 times.
Meanwhile, Jack Del Rio reads the “help wanted” section in the classifieds.
by Nashmeister on Dec 7, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Jack O' The River
needs to go to the college ranks.
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It was comical, how many times Gabbert was hit, let alone sacked
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
"Bro, they brought that D in right to my grill."
-Gabbert
Awesomeness begins at (1:35).
Thanks TS, that was fun to watch.
I will be sure look out for future ones.
another one
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d824d6c24/Sound-FX-Week-13
2011 Season is the Reason!!!
by TexanSam on Dec 7, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The underdog thing Kubes brought up really fired them up.
Any of us that hasn’t seen how pissed off Quin was after(!) the game?
Definitely, he took offense that they were underestimating the #1 defense
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I like how Derrick Mason was giving Yates his props out there
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
Veteran Leadership...
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
"I'll see you Wednesday"
Should be the new Kubiak Katchphrase around here…
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Dec 7, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
What is more awesome?
An ad about BOSE sound that has totally screwed up sound
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 7, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
no
“Whoa there MOTHA FUCKA!”
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THEREALALLENOU: "@Joeeatstacos... You're like the second testicle to my Tom green. I dont NEED you, but life is better when your around lol"
AllenOU is the Montgomery to my Patton
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
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Since the networks already did it
They probably felt there was no need to include it. Of course, most of the videos of it that were on YouTube have been taken down because of “copyright violations” against the NFL -
go figure
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 8, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
My pick was definitely Dunta.
I was sitting there just tasting the irony that it was him and none other.
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
I'll say this about Dunta...
He had nothing but good things to say about the Texans after the game. And you’ll notice that when Andre went down with an injury, he was the first one over there to check on him.
They're good friends
He’s not a bad guy, he just got caught up in the hype machine about going for a new contract, and then!!!!, he got it from the Falcons. I can blame him for the ego thing. I can’t blame him for taking that deal. He is set up for life now.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
He still could have been with the offer from Rick Smith that he turned down.
And I think one of the writers here said there was more guaranteed money on that offer than what he got from Atlanta.
Looking at Dunta’s demeanor throughout the game and reading his comments, I think he wishes he was part of this D.
I think Dunta wishes he was part of this TEAM.
And one can readily understand why. To start your career in one place, remain there for an extended period of time, become a leader, experience the mostly downs that was the Texan’s existence during his stay here, and then to leave and see that team come together and start winning….Add in the fact that many do not believe he is living up to his contract in ATL. Yeah, I think deep in his heart, he wishes he was still here.
He would be an upgrade over Kareem right now
Over Allen though is a toss up as he’s a bit more of a ballhawk
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I think you're right
Some of his comments about Houston sounded nostalgic. Imagine what this defense would look like with Dunta on one side and Jo Jo on the other.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
More PI holding & calls
plus we’d really be called a dirty team
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
ya
Dunta is pretty terrible now. Atlanta fans have been disappointed with signing him. He got CB1 money and he’s not even their CB1.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
But, he keeps cashing those checks, doesn't he....
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Never know, I certainly like him better than Kareem right now.
Especially considering he won’t have to play opposing team’s best WR.
I think he'd make a pretty damn good CB2 personally
Better than what we’ve got anyway.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Looking through several photos, I have noticed
1. Many players seem to not wear knee pads. Are these not considered useful anymore?!!
2. A lot of pics of Reed shows his long socks not so long. Is he just not pulling them up, or is he moving so fast they can’t keep up?
its even worse than that
Most wide receivers don’t wear knee, thigh, or hip pads anymore. Then they wonder why they get hurt all the time. They basically just wear shoulder pads and a helmet.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
They studied the great Fred Balitnikoff
Who did it in the 70’s (I believe he was the 1st) – gradually pretty much all WRs don’t wear anything that can slow them down and get away with it. He even modified his shoulder pads back then – which the companies now make special pads for WRs.
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 8, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
It’s hard to get sacks when the O-line is allowed to treat you like Bogs Diamond treated Andy Dufresne.
Fuck Clabo. Dirty motherfucker.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Well he did get a holding call for that I believe. So at least a sack wiped by holding, and one by Barwin wiped by def hold penalty.
One thing I love about ESPN’s box score is the inclusion of targets and QB hits. Seeing that we had 0 sacks might make people think we didn’t bring the pass rush, until you see that there were 10 QB hits.
I think that's the 3rd Barwin sack erased by a penalty this year.
Two have been forced fumbles, too. He’d be pushing for the franchise single-season sack record if it weren’t for those.
How about when Demeco put gonzales on his ass
or are we not doing the KTFO award any longer?
The Texan Floater, you wanna flush it but you can't.
Wade Aid Is the Best Drink in the League.
Whitest, I mean Best Front Seven in Football.
Well, there's also the one shown in that second video up there where Kareem laid out Roddy White
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
It's weird even suggesting that
Maybe he is starting to turn the corner, but again until I see more deflections & INTs from him, I say this game was a fluke for him
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
feeding off the fan frenzy?
I loved the way Reliant was making it hell on Ryan
Beer, it's not just for breakfast anymore
go listen to cushing's interview on texans.com
He said it was so loud that ryan wasn’t even calling audibles most of the time. Instead, he was, LITERALLY, telling his teammates what the play was. Which is why demeco was running to the line and then signaling run or pass. FUCKING BRILLIANT. MY GOD I love me some houston.
by HTown80 on Dec 7, 2011 11:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Link please?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 7, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
Texans Mobile
Latest Media
SportRadio610:Cushing on health, future
by HTown80 on Dec 8, 2011 1:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can't wait to see this replicated
Once we clinch home-field throughout(yeah I said it), reliant is going to be crazy loud. Get your lungs ready. This past Sunday was just a warmup. Must have roof closed!!!
Attn goodell,
don’t pull a selig and force us to open the roof. SHIT that still pisses me off.
by HTown80 on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
http://hw.libsyn.com/p/e/f/0/ef075ac27cd891be/Podcast_610_Brian_Cushing_12_6_11.mp3?sid=0f752cfc28788cec926227087c9994e3&l_sid=18889&l_eid=&l_mid=2824625&expiration=1323334096&hwt=81b60c9931fab0a4eaf21bdf9f68cca2
http://hw.libsyn.com/p/e/f/0/ef075ac27cd891be/Podcast_610_Brian_Cushing_12_6_11.mp3?sid=90b1fd40ab21a581eea0712932d602ed&l_sid=18889&l_eid=&l_mid=2824625&expiration=1323334479&hwt=747779921416c0615fb994777ac4e65c
sorry
I’m an interidiot. Don’t know how to post a hyperlink.
by HTown80 on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Don't put it up here.
Put it down here.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Dec 8, 2011 4:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's what she said.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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by MDC on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
That's what she said
*Soon-to-be Packers shareholder*
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
by RaY210 on Dec 8, 2011 8:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's what she said.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
LMFAO
at every one of you. Classic
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
by Christopher H on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, I think she likes it both places
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Or someone could do it for him
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Dec 8, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Is THAT what that was all about?
I started noticing the dirty birds all turning to Ryans and then someone on the Texans D run to the line and practically climb on top of the center, then back out and signal to the rest of the D. I was like, “WTH? Do the Texans know the dirty birds nomenclature that well?”
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Clearly, the defensive play of the game was Kareem Jackson's
LOCKDOWN LEFT ARM LASH!
Julio Jones was helpless against. the KJ Krush.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
y no other option?
rip is gonna so upset
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Dec 7, 2011 9:47 PM CST reply actions
So KJ is like the girl that hid in the basement with her family to avoid captivity by the Nazis?
Sounds legit.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Dec 7, 2011 10:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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Shhhh
We can’t be arguing about every little thing. They’ll find us!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
how will they find us?
the nazis can’t hear or see.
No, dude.
That was Anne Frank! The chick that was all “duhhh,” till the miracle worker showed up and knocked some smarts into her.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Anyone else notice that our NTs seem to be doing something
Instead of pancaking on the ground the past couple of games?
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
It's been that way all season, to be honest.
They play about 40 of our 75 defensive snaps per game between the two of them because we’re usually ahead and playing a 4-man front in the nickel, and they usually do an adequate job of holding the point of attack. Nothing spectacular, but more than enough to force cut-backs and let Cushing and our penetrating DEs make plays on the ball-carrier.
I voted for Allen defending the fade in the endzone
Because it was textbook, and we haven’t had a lot of textbook play from our defensive backs.
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Jason Allen was clearly mocking the zebras' "fumble" call with his run into the end zone.
I honor him for it.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Nah.
He did the same shit on a pick earlier in the year.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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by MDC on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
Surprised he didn't get penalized for that
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Dec 8, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Radio guys focusing on Mario this morning
saying the D is fine without him
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I knew in preseason that Reed would be a force
I wasn’t hoping Mario got hurt but I knew Reed could pick up the slack admirably if not equally.
by LordGav1n on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
They were actually being critical about Mario
Saying he’s just a bull rusher, with no moves, with no motor, and he’s really not that effective
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
which show was that?
so I’ll know which idiots not to take seriously in the future
Lance Zierlein on 790
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
wow, really?
I usually like LZ ok. I love when he does the breakdowns of plays on his chron blog. Don’t know how he can say Mario’s not effective. he was kicking ass this year up until the injury.
LZ is anti-Mario.
Which means he’s anti-happiness.
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by MDC on Dec 8, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
He's coming from the angle that there is no fall-off with Brooks Reed sans Mario
So, why burden the team with a huge salary that will handcuff them when they try to negotiate other pieces of the team. In theory, his argument has some value to it. From what I remember, he seemed to think that Bob McNair has an emotional attachment to Mario and he would step in and settle the matter by paying Mario. I don’t really agree with that. I actually think McNair will let Rick Smith handle the whole negotiation/offer deal-thingy. There are definitely going to be some reconciliation and negotiation going on. Bonuses, timing of the payouts will all be negotiated. There’s no doubt about Mario’s value. The question may come down to franchise him or not. If not, then that opens the whole thing to other teams and that is when it can get really out of hand. Mario could be in the same situation as Dunta a few years ago. There is a team out there that will pay what he asks, believe that.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Agreed.
I also think we will most miss Mario when we play elite offenses. I know Reed has done an admirable job in Mario’s place, but I do not think OC’s game plan around him or account for him on ever single play like they appear to do with Mario. At least that is my sense of things. I think adding a healthy Mario to this D only elevates it even further. It is not how good we are without Mario, but rather, how could we will be with him IMO.
I don't mean to disagree with you JA
But, I think we are seeing that other teams can’t game plan to stop just Mario anymore. The pass rush comes from everywhere! It really does. Freakin’ rookies JJ Watt and Brooks Reed have to be accounted for. Connor Barwin has risen throughout the season to the point where he is truly a force. DeMeco and Cushing pick their spots, but they are both being effective on the pass rush. And, pinpoint any of those guys and Antonio Smith will make you pay. Then, you have the backup guys who make you feel like the D doesn’t skip a beat when one of the starters goes out. Mario is awesome. He really is. But, it seems like there are so many awesome guys contributing on this D. What is the drop-off when Mario isn’t in there? It is hard to see it.
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Mario gets sacks when the OC takes him into account
And Smith gets them too (along with others). I still think Smith has 0 sacks since Mario went down.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Still a crap-ton of hits, though.
I wouldn’t read too much into that stat. Especially considering the improvement in Watt’s sack numbers.
I think the sacks are just more spread out now.
Without Mario they have no idea where it is coming from.
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You are 100% correct about the front 7 stepping up in Mario's absense.
But, with the exception of ATL, we have not played a single upper echelon offense since Mario went down. Granted we played ATL very well. But that was at home and a single game. I do not think that the question is answered. I think we will see issues without Mario in the playoffs when we are consistently facing better offenses. I hope I am wrong, but I fear I am not.
Let me put it this way. We are very good without Mario. We would be elite with him. And when I say elite, I mean potentially historic. Cincy will be another good measuring stick and provide an additional data point.
We played and beat the Steelers
Might see them in the playoffs. I think Baltimore can be handled. Don’t think Flacco is the really the QB we saw the first time around. Who else might we see? Denver and Tebow? Not elite. New England is elite, but not so overpowering. Really, in the AFC, I am not worrying about elite offenses right now that will cause the Texans to miss Mario so much that they have to file the game as a loss before they ever step on the field.
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If we get the Ravens at home in the playoffs
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by The Night Owl on Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Cheng is right...we had Mario for the Steelers game...and he played a large role in our victory..
NE scares me right now. With a healthy Schaub, we match up very well with them. Without him, I fear we cannot score enough. And while I am impressed with TJ, I’m not sold he is the second coming of Brady just yet. But you are again correct with respect to potential playoff teams, now that i think more about it. NE and Pitt are the only real offensive juggernauts we’d face in the playoffs. We’d beat Denver. Baltimore scares me, but more b/c of our offense struggling against them.
I still think Mario would make the difference between a playoff run and a superbowl appearance.
I think part of this is....
Reed is a rookie. He hasn’t established himself as a force to be reckoned with yet. He is steadily doing that right now. By the playoffs and definitely by next year, opposing OC’s are going to have to account for where Reed is on the field.
Just my $.02
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"there is no fall-off with Brooks Reed sans Mario"
I don’t buy this at all. Antonio Smith has zero sacks since Mario went down, but had one per game prior to the injury. On top of which, judging “no fall-off” based solely on Reed’s sack numbers - which is about the only way you can say that - ignores that Mario is one of the two or three best run-defenders from a DE position.
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Our defense also was not playing at its current level when Mario got his 5 sacks in 4 games and a quarter.
The defense took some time to gel, I really would love to know how well Mario would be doing with this defense playing at its current level.
Exactly.
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went with KJ's interception, because out of the options it was the least likely to occur
He hasn’t had an INT since this time last year, if I remember right. Jason Allen’s had a few. A Dunta penalty should surprise exactly no one around here, Glover Quin makes plays all the time, and good coverage in the secondary should be an expectation, even for Jason Allen.
Kareem making a play though, makes me stop and take notice, like the aurora borealis.
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I kinda understand because
when I really like a movie I tend to read the full cast during the end credits, pause it and study it, etc. to see the names of character actors whose work I was impressed with. There’s where you often see a character’s full name even if it wasn’t mentioned in the movie. In this case, however, more likely MDC has read the original King short story.
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by Christopher H on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
You are correct.
Though I did check IMDB just now and his last name is listed in the credits. I don’t think it was ever mentioned in the film, however.
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And the rare King story that translates well into a movie.
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by Christopher H on Dec 8, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Most of the bang for the buck in a King book
is from the description of the scene or the terror. 3-4 pages that take place over 3-4 seconds in a movie. Makes it tough.
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I have to go with Glover and Earl
That play didn’t have as big of an impact on the game as the other plays, but I remember commenting on it during the game. I was super impressed by Glover’s awareness and ability to completely destroy the lead blocker allowing his bigger friends to pummel Turner into the ground.
I was kind of hoping Barwin's sack fumble on Ryan would make the list.
Even though it was Dunta’ed by the refs. I vaguely remember the announcers saying there wasn’t much of a hold, same didn’t hold true when Dunta held Walter.

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