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Top 10 Texans Draft Successes - #4: Mario Williams

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Does Super Mario simply get credit for not being Vince Young or Reggie Bust Bush?  Well, duh, obviously.  Failing to address our lines would've been yet another major oversight had we gone with Young or Bust.  In addition, all my concerns about Radio (not learning the playbook, not having the heart, etc.) and Bust (not able to be an actual RB) have turned out to be 100% true.  But it's more than that.

Look, it's one thing to have expectations for a #1 overall pick.  It's another thing to look at his body of work and see the positives instead of, "Hey, this guy doesn't have 30 gajillion sacks, so he SUCKS!"  In my never humble opinion, Mario Williams has lived up to his draft status, and it'd be damn hard to convince me otherwise.  Here's the pre-jump scouting report.

Star-divide

So, Mario, what have you done for me lately?  Over the course of Super Mario's five (5) years in the NFL, he started the first 77 games of his career, finally going on the IR over the last three games of the 2010 season in order to get him healthy for 2011.  Look at that number again: 77 starts to begin his career.  Over that time, he accumulated 48 sacks, averaging nearly 9 per season, and he's become one of the best defensive ends against the run over his career.  He's accumulated these stats while suffering a series of maladies.

There are times when Mario can absolutely dominate a game.  I was unable to find anything meaningful from the 2007 match-up against the Saints when he had Bust literally pissing himself in the backfield.  Bust pulled himself out of the game for fear of getting hit.  Again.

The best part?  I don't think we've seen the best of Mario Williams.  I mean, look at who his Defensive Coordinators have been.  Richard Smith?  Frank Bush?  Oft times, Mario has been a one-man show in getting to the QB, and if I had a dollar for every time the guy has been held, I'd have enough money to pay for the breast reduction surgery I so desperately need.  Personally, I think the best is yet to come, and I think he's about to become a disruptive beast.

Mario Williams, all things considered, has been a fantastic nab by your Houston Texans, first overall pick or not.


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I still think he is #1

Everyone in the world was screaming to take Bush. No one that I remember thought Williams should have been the number one.

These hands will always be rough

by nolander on Apr 26, 2011 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I wanted Ferguson

But I was more than happy to get Mario. Even living in Austin, there seemed to be more love for Bush than for Radio. Oddly, the most common explanation I heard why was because of “marketing” reasons. When I tried to explain that winning is the best marketing strategy, I was told I couldn’t be more wrong.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

/fixed
“taking a mentally-retarded no-work-ethic-having-mittens-wearing-hair-obsessive-slow-witted-pretty-boy-GQ-model-beach-bum-wannabe-with-the-intellect-of-a-sandflea bust of a quarterback was still the right choice”

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by DilloTex on Apr 27, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow!

I detect a lot of hate in there. ; )

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by Hydroshock on Apr 27, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

More self-loathing...

…as one of the longest David-Carr-just-needs-a-solid-offense hold-outs I feel especially betrayed now that the reality has finally become inescapable that he was just lazy.
I remember being perplexed as to why a QB would run out of bounds five yards behind the line of scrimmage with no one within three yards of him instead of throwing the ball away. It never OCCURRED to me that the jackass would rather lose five yards for the team than hurt his completion percentages. Sadly methinks that was the reality.
Yeah, I’m bitter… hate may be overstating it a bit (I hope)…
/reaches for M&Ms

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by DilloTex on Apr 27, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're not alone

I was a #8 apologist for a while myself. Then I started noticing the same tendencies to run out of bounds behind the line and inability to see open receivers (not that we had many back then) not named Andre Johnson.

I think it was the contract extension that turned disgust into hate for me.

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by Hydroshock on Apr 27, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'ed

And he still takes that stance today.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 27, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jerry Rice disagrees

;)

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by Schlauton on Apr 26, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Andre gets the years JErry did,

he wont be able to disagree… Andre is on a pace to break Jerry’s records…. mind you if he stays healthy, He almost became the first WR to have back to back to back 1500 yd seasons is only the second WR to do it back to back, Jerry Rice is the other. So he is definitely comparable to Jerry.

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by Taco Joe on Apr 26, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was being facetious.

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by Schlauton on Apr 26, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Through their age 29 seasons

Rice: 9072 yards, 93 TDs
AJ: 9164 yards, 50 TDs

AJ has an extra year on Rice. Still, aside from the TDs, which is more a component of who’s throwing you the ball (Joe Montana vs. David Carr), that’s not too shabby at all.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Throw another name in there at age 29, anyone

AJ is not blazing his own trail as Rice did, but he looks very favorable to the rest of the world.

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 26, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Patrick Willis smites you into Purgatory.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think that means we couldn't have messed it up anyways?

Even so, if someone literally held a gun to our heads and forced us to pick him it’s easily still our biggest draft success.

by WhiskeyR on Apr 26, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Millen reminds me how amazing the world is.

Amazing that, for all his complete idiocy, Charlie Casserly was – by a significant margin – not the worst GM of all time.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 27, 2011 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

True

If Millen took AJ instead of Charles Rogers…………

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Apr 27, 2011 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mario is 4??? Besides Dre and Meco,, who's the other one????

Who was the first to see a cow and think "I wonder what will happen if I squeeze these dangly things and drink whatever comes out?

by Antho10000 on Apr 26, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Dre is the only one that obviously jumps out at me being ranked higher than Mario

I would probably have Mario #2.

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by papabear on Apr 26, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

please tell me cushing

is not gonna be in the mix..i was in love with clay mathews over cushing..clay was SO MUCH more fluid where as cush looked liked a robot..once cush was drafted i said OK i can get behind this down hill robot LB just try not to make him cover ne one..neways, after last year cush is now up in the air and being moved inside while clay is gonna be in the mix for DPOY..WHO IS THE OTHER GUY!?!?

by Mike Ram on Apr 26, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

whats sad is we have all this talent on D

and nothing to show for it. I hope Wade can get it fixed.

by southpaw70 on Apr 26, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree with that idea

we have a few talented players….and gaping holes of suck everywhere else. You don’t need 11 stars, but you do need guys who are at least competent at their job.

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by papabear on Apr 26, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maualuga?

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 26, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three year minimum sample to make the list

So no Cushing or Kareem.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kareem's not on this list?

Then it is incomplete, sir.

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by TexansDC on Apr 26, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Echo this sentiment

Did you see that he allowed fewer yards than Pro Bowler DeAngelo Hall?!?!?

by riversmccown on Apr 26, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA!

pancakes…making battle blog ever redder with his knowledge

by Mike Ram on Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, between that

and Glover Quin never allowing touchdowns, we must have shut down opponents’ passing games last season. I’ll have to check the numbers, but I think we were pretty good in the secondary.

by JBal on Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

awesome!

and, uh, we went deep in the playoffs right? (oh please, oh please)

by JBal on Apr 26, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You seriously drunk that much bleach?

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by Schlauton on Apr 26, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not?

If you’re going to be insane, you’d might as well go big!

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

strange me too Jbal

i wonder if anyboody else plays with them?

by southpaw70 on Apr 26, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it's clear Gary Kubiak doesn't.

/tries one onside kick all season with one of the worst defenses in NFL history

by riversmccown on Apr 26, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

/clearly lost three years of my life during and after that game.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gary's brain

is always battling

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by Hydroshock on Apr 26, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was all worth it

to get to walk out of that stadium after all those punk ass bitch Redskins fans had talked so much shit, and then had nothing whatsoever to say. Bitzes.

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by nolander on Apr 26, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember the good old days

When we thought losing games because of a missed field goal was gut-wrenching?

Ahh, the good times.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me!

For 2010, I immediately traded for a new CB, FS, SS, and DT, though.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha, me too, at least the DT

and I didn’t cut Jaques Reeves either, and somehow I picked up TO. Take that, reality!

by JBal on Apr 26, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Southpaw you know I doo

I have taken the Texans to two superbowls.. lost to GB and beat the Eagles!!!

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by Taco Joe on Apr 26, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea

i cant wait to see what our 3-4 looks like cause i try it on madden and suck,

by southpaw70 on Apr 26, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I ran a 46

and dominated!

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by Taco Joe on Apr 28, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh the Texans on m Franchise mode kick ass

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by papabear on Apr 26, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

How's this for a Madden style Texans coaching staff?

HC – Sean Payton
OC – Gary Kubiak
DC – Gregg Williams
ST – Joe Marciano

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by Hydroshock on Apr 26, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's official

I’m giving up on seeing Eric Winston in the top ten draft successes….

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 26, 2011 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I just don't see him appearing in the top three of bfd's official list

Unless the rules allow for extra bonus points for doing radio shows. Maybe he has incriminating photos of bfd and he’s using that as leverage to get a favorable ranking. But, he has never been anything better than an average starter and I would think that to make the top three, a player would need to receive some sort of recognition as one of the best at his position. Like OD. He’s a stud. He has been down and come back. And, he was #4. Winston is really only famous for his radio appearances, which are many, I know…

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

What three do you have remaining?

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your in a tough spot bfd

This is the Texans we’re talking about. They’ve only been around for nine drafts? And, over half of those were GMed by Charlie Casserly. Look at the 2004 draft. Besides Dunta and Babin, who are those guys? Oh, Glenn Earl, I think he might have had some playing time on those losing teams,

whoopie!

I guess Winston is in there with the top three. argghhhh! But, beating out OD! OD has been one scary offensive threat for the Texans with and without Carr.

It’s your list. I wonder what photos he has on you…

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 26, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Recognition?

As in, pro-bowl honors? C’mon Rip. You know better than that.

by Nashmeister on Apr 26, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say Winston was among the top RT's in the league two years ago

He had a great season in 2009. 2010 was a little rocky at times. He definitely deserves to be high on the list, but he shouldn’t be higher than Mario. Sure, Winston was a third rounder so you get bonus points for getting a guy who locks down a position for years to come later in the draft. That doesn’t supplant Mario being one of the better players at his position in the league for me though.

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by papabear on Apr 26, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't we all have incriminating photos of bfd?

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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute...

You said those self penis photos were for personal use only!

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 27, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sadly...

…some sentences just can’t be unread.

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by DilloTex on Apr 27, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Winston definitely makes it at #3. Then DeMeco at #2 and 'Dre at #1

I’d guess OD doesn’t make it because we haven’t gotten as much production out of him, due to injuries and such.

by WhiskeyR on Apr 26, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd just for this line...
I’d have enough money to pay for the breast reduction surgery I so desperately need.

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by DilloTex on Apr 26, 2011 1:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I am a Mario Fan

I only buy Jersey’s of guys I have faith in… this year will be a Liberty White Arian Foster!!!! I already have blue Johnson, Blue Williams, Red Cushing (I still have faith in him).

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by Taco Joe on Apr 26, 2011 1:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I think this deserves to be #1,

even over ’Dre.

Here’s the thing: We could have drafted Reggie Bust or VY. Both are massive busts. AJ was a no-brainer when we drafted him, Mario wasn’t.

Mario is an All-Pro DE. Sure, injuries have slowed him down, but he always gets a high number of sacks per season. Ever since he’s come into the league, he’s in the top 5 or 6 in total sacks over the past 4 or 5 seasons, which is impressive, considering 3-4 OLB’s are getting most of the sacks.

I guess I can see Cush going above Mario, but not AJ. He’s our best player, and a future hall of famer, but he was a no-brainer at the time. Mario was a tough choice to make.

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by bone31crusher on Apr 26, 2011 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Cush is too new.

Its GOT to be Winston, DeMeco then ’Dre.

by WhiskeyR on Apr 26, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe I have figured it out BFD

There is a tie in there somewhere. No way Winston, OD, DeMeco or ‘Dre don’t make it. I’ll revise my prediction with OD and Winston tying for #3, with DeMeco at #2.

by WhiskeyR on Apr 26, 2011 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

When can we expect Zac Diles to show up?

Clearly his cost-effectiveness is way more valuable than Mario Williams eating up precious payroll space. If you had a whole team of Zac Dileses, you could have an NFL defense that actually pleased Jerry Richardson!

by riversmccown on Apr 26, 2011 4:49 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

//weeps silently to self//

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 26, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

The best thing about this post?

The commentary has focused on video games and Eric Winston. Not a single dumbass has shown up to say that Mario sucks, VY was better, etc.

BRB restores my faith in humanity.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 26, 2011 11:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Mario sucks, VY was better, etc.

/ducks

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by Jon Banks on Apr 27, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boo this man!!!!

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by UprootedTexan on Apr 27, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

BANNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Apr 27, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

BRB is truly a cut above...

If one was to, hypothetically, accidentally, mis-click their mouse and wind up on one of the articles posted by some Comical hack, one would, again hypothetically, be APPALLED at the level of mindless still-stuck-in-the-middle-of-last-seasons-disaster front office bashing mindset.

The off-season has been the only time (to date) when Texans fans can be happy and optimistic and these dooshnuzzles choose to throw away the happy times on bitching and whining and grrrrrrrrrrrinding on what a dumbass Smithiak is, how the team sucks, Kubiak should have been fired, blah blah blah blah…

For those of us that have chosen to inflict ourselves with Texans fanhood AND who like to try to maintain some hope, this place is one of the only shimmering oasis…s available… Which is not to say that there isn’t the occasional turd-floating-in-the-punchbowl here, but for the most part there is some rational discourse wrapped around the bomb-throwing.

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by DilloTex on Apr 27, 2011 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here Here

+1

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by Hydroshock on Apr 27, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

or Hear Hear

whichever one is correct

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