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Tune in to the 2011 NFL Draft on NFL Network!
FLASHBACK TIME!
/sets Wayback Machine to April 2006
Rd #Overall
1 --- #1 Mario Williams DE NC State
2 --- #33 DeMeco Ryans LB Alabama
3 --- #65 Charles Spencer OG Pittsburgh
3 --- #66 Eric Winston OT Miami (FL)
4 --- #98 Owen Daniels TE Wisconsin
6 --- #170 Wali Lundy RB Virginia
7 --- #251 David Anderson WR Colorado St.
Depending on who in the mainstream sports media you asked, the Texans' 2006 draft was either terrible or merely bad at the top, but saved by some later picks. Either way, the conventional "wisdom" was that taking Mario Williams first overall, rather than Reggie Bush or Vince Young was THE WORST DRAFT DECISION IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!one!!1! (I may be underselling that a tad. I apologize.)
Buy the ticket, take the jump, and allow me to pedantically explain where I am going with this.
You'd be hard-pressed to find someone other than Mario, his mama, and me who thought he was the right pick. You'd also find a lot of people who thought that getting Charles Spencer that late was the steal of the draft, that Wali Lundy had the size/speed/talent to be a very good NFL running back, and that David Anderson was unlikely to actually make the team.
You certainly would not have found anyone telling you that Reggie Bush was destined to be a glorified punt returner with a penchant for big butts and nagging injuries. Nor would you have found anyone saying that Vince Young was going to be a tequila-swilling headcase with a habit of shirtless dancing and crying on the sidelines.
Now, I get it: there's a natural human tendency to want to say that certain teams did better than others on draft day. Such is the nature of competitive sports that even something as wildly speculative as how a bunch of college kids will perform in the pros is turned into a competition unto itself. Sports journalists, many of whom are lazy and/or unoriginal, exploit this public desire and create extensive team-by-team draft grade cards, complete with explanations for why their grades make sense.
Except they rarely do. Any grade that is based on how some kid is going to perform at the next level is an exercise is futility, as bfd's string of draft successes and draft failures has shown time and time again. Any grade that is based on what that writer perceives to be a steal of a pick or (worse) a reach of a pick are similar dumb except in the most extreme cases (read: Kareem Jackson).
In fact, about the only aspect of a team's draft that I can see lending itself to a grade is the overall draft strategy. For instance, if the Texans had taken Dan Williams in the first last year because they were banking on Kareem Jackson being there in the second, and had they subsequently gotten Jackson, that would have been a very smart strategic play. Conversely, taking Kareem Jackson where they did because Richard Smith Frank Bush had a mancrush on him? Not so much.
I realize that I am not breaking new ground here. On some level, anyone who cares enough about a team to frequent a blog and discuss minutiae in the comments knows that you can't grade a draft until you see how the players perform for a couple years, and you certainly cannot grade a specific draft pick beyond something amorphous like "I would have taken X instead because _____." So, come tonight, whether it is Robert Quinn (swoon!), Prince Amukamara, Aldon Smith, J.J. Watt, or Mike Kerns that gets drafted, the fact is any of those picks (other than Kerns) could wind up being an A+. Any of those picks (especially Mike Kerns) could wind up being an F-.
In fact, I'll take it one step further; if a team has a coherent draft strategy to address certain needs and they couple it with a coherent plan of attack for free agency, then as long as they stick with the draft strategy and get the kind of players they were targeting, it's hard to give them anything other than a good grade. Unless there are a lot of TEs involved, because, in that case, the strategy itself is asinine.
[Author's note: I don't mean to suggest that I am immune to this draft-grading disease. After all, I'm the guy who blamed Jesus for what I thought was a terrible selection in 2009. Even though many or most of my concerns about Cushing have not yet abated, I would be a fool to suggest that, in retrospect, I wasn't overreacting. That said, I am not a journalist, nor do I pretend to be one. I am a fan who happens to (occasionally) write things about his favorite team.]
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What is your definition of "occasional?"
Sleeping for long periods of time, waking to check the sun, and then going back to sleep….like a groundhog, occasional?
Okay
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Yup... that'll leave a mark...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
F, that's better than drafting Mike Kerns! Congrats bfd!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I thought this was posted by MDC?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
My brain is scrambled eggs right now.
Don’t mind me.
I watched a video worse than Mr Hands and One guy One Cup.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
a video that you found disturbing
…consider me intrigued. Terrified, but intrigued.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on Apr 28, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
/laughing... truer words...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
You can't say that
And not link to the disturbing video.
Needs more nose tackle.
Apparently he did
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on Apr 28, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know...
It’s just too soon. What if Vince Young throws more TDs than INTs this season, or Reggie Bush increased his punt-return average? Clearly the jury is still out.
VY throwing more TDs then INTs, 2 TDs and 1 INT....lol!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Richard Justice likes where you're going with this argument.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Yes, draft strategy, again, I must be obsessed with definitions this morning
Does Risk Smith have a strategy? It is that he adheres to picking players according to the team’s needs even though he has always stated the opposite in interviews. Except, for the deviation and abnormal predispostion to drafting TEs (WHACK!).
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I see your point but...
Al Davis has a coherent draft strategy, and he gets the kind of players he targets, in free agency and the draft. And I’m going to judge him anyway. I think the bar is a little higher.
Needs more nose tackle.
Right
That’s like the MORE TIGHT ENDS strategy. I guess I mean “coherent” in terms of “other people don’t look at your strategy and think you are functionally retarded.”
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/looks right
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/walks away
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Dementia
Is not retardation. And everyone knows you need a blocking tight end with swine flu, a pass catching tight end, 2 tight ends from Wisconsin, a tight end wide receiver conversion project, and Joel Dreessen. You know what you don’t need? Safeties.
Needs more nose tackle.
by JimboTexan on Apr 28, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
We all know what the master plan is...
If you have a stranglehold on the tight-end supply, you don’t need safeties; after all, who are they going to cover? The plan is flawless, we just need better execution; can’t let guys like Jacob Tamme slip through our fingers.
Pfft.
Who cares about the draft anyways. We just need to trade up for Peterson because WE MUST WIN NOW! Fuck the future, we can just fill our defensive needs with veteran free agents and we’re gonna be competitive like Da Bears or Da Jets and we’re gonna be consistent and be divisional champs!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Fuck the Jets
and their un-flagged team celebrations
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Apr 28, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
i would draft mike kerns over aldon smith
smith might have more upside, but kerns could come in and be mario williams russell westbrook, ie pushing mario to the ground and recording the sack on his own
I still chuckle.
Every time I hear Mel Kiper rip the Texans apart for not taking Reggie Bush and other ESPN analysts ripping the Texans for not taking VY.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Besides, I decided not to enter the draft this year
I got an interview for the Rockets head coaching job and that takes priority.
I have a wilted house-plant that would grade higher than VY
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
I thought the pick was absolutely the right one when it was done
but then again I despise U$C and Reggie Bush. I actually rooted for Texas in that BCS ’ship. Excuse me while I go grab a quick shower and throw darts at my VY poster.
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I actually liked the Mario pick
not because I am some sort of genius, just because I believe in building your lines first. That was the extent of my analysis, but you know what? I was right!
These hands will always be rough
You rang?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Apr 28, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But if that QB is on the ground every other play.....
It’s like which came first the chicken or the egg. There’s arguments for both sides.
Houston Texans:
1st Round: J.J. Watt (NT)
2nd Round: Ras-I Dowling/Brandon Harris (CB)
3rd Round: Mark Herzlich (ILB)
4th Round: Shiloh Keo (S)
5th Round: Chris Carter (OLB)
6th Round: Alex Henery (P/K)
7th Round: Stephen Burton (WR)
by CCBach on Apr 28, 2011 12:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Tennessee Titans and Andy Dalton at No. 8
Beg to differ.
Needs more nose tackle.
Quiet you
The first six QBs in this year’s draft are the best ever in history! Grab them early and often!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 28, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
There could be four taken in the top ten, maybe five
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Or at the very least...
Rick Smith will come up to the podium, and after making an awful draft pick, announce, “by the way… we just signed Asomugha to a five-year contract.”, then immediately turn to Goodell and make the “suck it” gesture.
My respect for him would leap buildings
And I’d drop the half drank bleach bottle(bad grammar?)
Houston Texans:
1st Round: J.J. Watt (NT)
2nd Round: Ras-I Dowling/Brandon Harris (CB)
3rd Round: Mark Herzlich (ILB)
4th Round: Shiloh Keo (S)
5th Round: Chris Carter (OLB)
6th Round: Alex Henery (P/K)
7th Round: Stephen Burton (WR)
by CCBach on Apr 28, 2011 1:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe it's "drinkered".
I honestly have no clue. That one always got me…
drankelated?
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Nicely said, MDC
But at what point is someone going to address the elephant in the room?
Once in the war-room and on the clock, how long will it take Wade Phillips to voice his opinion for the pick at hand (instead of sitting & waiting for Jerry to make the pick without input from the coaches)?
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Shake, what? Wait?
Did you die and go back in time and get reborn as a Cowpukes fan?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I think you misread that one
Try again, keeping in mind that “old habits die hard” for some coaches…
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Well not sure about the shirtless dancing....
Nor would you have found anyone saying that Vince Young was going to be a tequila-swilling headcase with a habit of shirtless dancing and crying on the sidelines.
But I called every one of the others. Unfortunately (or fortunately as the case may be) I hadn’t found BRB at that time yet, so no supporting evidence (or incriminating evidence) exists to prove one way or the other.
Seriously though, I did know he was going to be a headcase. I could actually see it in the few tu games I watched (and no it wasn’t blind Aggie hatred). He was a crybaby then when things started to go wrong in a game. I also knew it from some of the police reports that kept floating to the surface about him.
Nor was I sold on Reggie Bush. I didn’t think he was going to be as big a disappointment as he has turned out to be, but I did have questions about how well he would do in the NFL. More of gut instinct on that, nothing I could concretely point to and say this is why he will fail.
So I did like the Mario Williams choice…..by default, it wasn’t Radio or Bush, ergo, a good pick. lol
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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