With The Tenth Pick Of The 2011 BRB Mock Draft, The Washington Redskins Select...
Prepare to be swerved as Cut Block, Rip Jersey, and HoustonTransplant turn the mock draft on its collective ear. Thousands of words worth of explanation stand ready for your scrutiny after the jump.
In December 2009, the Redskins hired Bruce Allen, the son of a legendary Redskins' Head Coach (Hall of Famer George Allen), as the team’s new General Manager. Allen thus became the first to hold that title after a decade under the front office stewardship of team owner Daniel Snyder, and his Executive Vice President, Vinny Cerrato. A month later, former Raiders and Broncos Head Coach, Mike Shanahan, was hired to replace previous Washington HC, Jim Zorn. Shanahan was given ultimate authority on football decisions.
Shanahan’s first order of business was to bring in his son (and former Texans OC), Kyle Shanahan, as the new offensive coordinator. Houston HC Gary Kubiak has strong ties to both Shanahans, most notably from his days as a backup quarterback, and later as the OC of the Denver Broncos. Former Saints and Rams HC, Jim Haslett, was hired as the Redskins' new Defensive Coordinator and given the task of transitioning the Skins' 4-3 defense into a 3-4 scheme.
Thus marked the start of an organizational transition, from the "Jim Zorn Experiment" to the "Mike Shanahan Ultimatum".
Back in February 2009, the Redskins signed Albert Haynesworth to a seven-year, $100 million contract. During the 2009 season, Haynesworth criticized the defensive scheme saying, he could not "survive another season in this system if it stays the way it is." Enter Shanahan and Haslett to save the day. Only it didn’t go as planned. Most of us know the Albert Haynesworth story, but if you would like an update, here’s Part One and Part Two of an interview Larry Michael had with Coach Shanahan at this year’s Combine, which should provide some entertainment. Let’s just say that, at the time of this writing, no one really knows if Haynesworth will be wearing burgundy and gold ever again, and even if he does, whether or not it will eventually be ripped off his back.
Prior to the 2010 NFL Draft, the Redskins orchestrated a swap with their division rivals, the Philadelphia Eagles, landing six-time Pro Bowl QB Donovan McNabb. The Redskins gave up a 2010 second-round pick and either a third or fourth-rounder in the 2011 Draft. At the time, Rex Grossman and Jason Campbell were already in the Redskins' QB fold. As the season progressed, continued doubt was publicly aired by Shanahan regarding McNabb’s abilities to lead the team, culminating with a mid-December benching of McNabb in favor of Rex Grossman.
Now, Redskins owner Dan Snyder is not immune to criticism, with much of it being brought on by his own actions. Dave McKenna of the Washington City Paper felt so strongly about this that he wrote and printed The Cranky Redskins Fan’s Guide to Dan Snyder (from A to Z, an encyclopedia of the owner’s many failings). In it, McKenna illustrates and recounts a litany of Snyder’s actions over the last decade. Among Snyder’s transgressions, there was the 2006 Fan Appreciation Day, in which he charged fans $25 to park to watch the team scrimmage and hear an address from Exec VP Vinny Cerrato. The parking charge was not mentioned in the event’s promotional advertisements. Anyway, Snyder was offended and two months ago he filed suit against the City Paper. Good luck with that, Danny!
Okay, all of this is leading up to a simple decision…who will the fake FO of the Washington Redskins select in the 2011 BRB Mock Draft? Shanahan has gone on record as saying that the Redskins were going to revamp their roster via trades, free agency, and the draft. So far this offseason, they have released RB Clinton Portis, OG Derrick Dockery and LB Andre Carter. They have signed former Rams safety O.J. Atogwe, who had briefly become a free agent.
Among their apparent needs heading towards draft day are/were: QB, WR, OL, NT, DE, and CB.
So without further ado, the Washington Redskins select University of Washington Quarterback Jake Locker with the 10th overall choice in the 2011 BRB Mock Draft.
Yes, Jake Locker will be considered by many as a "reach" at number 10 overall in the first round, especially due to the constant icy evaluations he has been getting by draftniks everywhere. Often times, he's being rated behind other prominent QB prospects in this year's draft, such as Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert, Ryan Mallett, and Christian Ponder, perhaps even leading some to believe that Locker would be available in a later round.
Ideally, it would be in the Redskins' better interests to attempt a trade down of at least a few spots, and then take Locker (not an option for this mock). Or, to take someone else at 10, and then trade up into the later part of the first round to grab Locker (also not allowed). Not only is trading around the draft board impossible for the puposes of this mock, it's tricky business, and the belief here is that Shanahan desires Locker to be his on-field general for many years to come. When you deem someone to be your franchise quarterback, and that player is available at your draft position, your best bet is to snatch him up immediately, regardless of the preferences any pundits may have to the contrary, and even if it means taking someone too "early".
San Francisco, Cincinnati, Tennessee (possibly even Cleveland and Denver) might try to do everything they can to land a QB in the mold of a Jake Locker, by drafting him or trading into the middle part of the first round themselves, if Washington (or any of the others) happen to pass him over initially. Unfortunate as it may seem to many, Mike Shanahan has been known to reach for players that fit his ideals. That said, our fake Front Office has come around to believing that Jake Locker to the Redskins is a no-brainer.
A QB with his particular skills (and his ideal size for this offense) doesn't come around very often. Looking at tape, it does become a chore finding highlights where he doesn't take off running in an attempt to make something happen. We felt like this was more a product of the inferior talent he was surrounded with as an amateur, but then again, athlecticism is definitely considered a plus for a quarterback who will be asked to lead an offense utilizing a Walshian scheme.
Moreover, the kid has a strong arm, uses touch, and has a lightning-quick overhand release. He has a comparable skill set to all-time NFL greats, John Elway and Steve Young. We doubt he's anywhere near as advanced as Elway was at a similar age, but he's definitely ahead of where Young was. Although he may not have as much natural athleticism as Young did, that comparison has more to do with their passing abilities, rather than a comparison of their quickness or running power. Like Young once did, Locker will need to tone down his scrambling a great deal; probably more so.
We were absolutely floored by Locker's ability to make throws all over the field from any arm angle, and to do that while moving in any direction. No doubt he'll need to be chosen by a team with a coaching staff that can refine him, but we feel that can be done rather easily (which becomes even more important with the real possibility of a shortened, or even nonexistant, offseason).
Locker comes from a similarly structured offense in college, which will help his transition to the pros (however short it may need to be), and to the Redskins in particular. A few tweaks, both mental and physical, and Locker could actually go down in the books as the steal of this draft, assuming he falls into the right hands. He'll need to grow more confidence, both in being more patient and setting his feet (which would automatically help his accuracy), but Shanahan has a wealth of experience to lend. The offensive playbook will certainly be tailored in ways that would maximize the many talents Locker already brings to the table.
We like Locker's vision, and once he's surrounded by pro talent and coaching, he'll be able to actually use it in the passing game, rather than using it to scramble around all day until he ultimately finds himself injured.
All prospects have their warts, especially quarterbacks, but Lockers' "pros" well outweigh any "cons". Besides, the situation here in Washington is ideal.
The University of Washington Huskies held their Pro Day recently, and reports are that Locker looked wonderful. We were hardly surprised by this news.We're making a ballsy prediction here for sure. But it's one that we can live with. The other players we considered for the Redskins at this spot included: DB Prince Amukamara; QB Blaine Gabbert; DE Cameron Jordan; RB Mark Ingram; G/C Mike Pouncey; and NT Phil Taylor.
Julio Jones was a striking omission from our consideration. And while his speed, blocking skills, and spectacular Combine will be very tempting to Coach Shanahan (who tends to fall in love with Combine performances), Julio's hands and route-running are suspect enough to make him a risk at this point in the draft, especially to a coach who historically prides himself in developing more unheraled, even undrafted, wideouts (Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey, and Brandon Marshall, for example). Receiver is an immediate need for the Redskins, but it is one they will be able to address later in the draft, or through free agency.
So for the purposes of this mock, Jake Locker--not Blaine Gabbert--is the second QB off the board. How does that strike you?
Your Houston Texans are now on the clock, and a post soliciting your thoughts on what the Texans should do if the chips fall as they have in this exercise will be going up this afternoon. Given that this is a Texans blog, we're going to allot an entire day for us to debate what to do with that eleventh overall pick.
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Taking Locker with Gabbert still on the board??
Seems like with a few exceptions, nobody likes Gabbert here. Thanks for leaving Julio Jones on the board
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
I'm not sure I understand it either
Gabbert is probably the only QB in this class who is a genuine top 10 caliber prospect, yet here we are at pick 11 and 2 QBs off the board and not even a mention of Gabbert’s name….
Locker isn’t anywhere near accurate enough to play in a west coast offense whether it’s an adaptation that uses many bootlegs or not.., you still have to be highly accurate to run a WCO well.
Gabbert I believe ran a 4.61 40.., he’s plenty mobile enough to move around in and outside the pocket, and to make a long story short he’s simply a better passer than Locker or Newton is at this point.
I'm trying
I had typed out 3 paragraphs explaining how he’s a better passer, then hit delete to be more concise… I am ever a work in progress.
I agree
It’s a difficult year to be in need of a QB and then making the right choice for your team. We don’t have the benefit of going to private workouts or meeting these candidates. We can only go by what we read and see select video on. You think it’s a crapshoot for us? Imagine the pressure these team GMs and coaches have on them to figure this out and then pull the trigger with there entire business depending on it. Wow! It’s just a game! Ha!
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agreed.
Gabbert is taken in the top 10. end of story, I think he goes to Buffalo.
All depends which expert you are listening to
Opinions are all over the place on the top QBs. We married the Redskins with the QB that suits their tastes. We like our pick.
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i personally don't like it
but that’s just coming from a fan who follows the team a lil more than you do. Which experts are you listening to. Hopefully shanahan isn’t the only person in the world who can’t admit he was wrong last year about locker. kiper had it in cement he was going 1 overall last year.
Redskins Dream Draft:
1. (10th) TRADE BACK AND ACQUIRE PICKS!!!!
by HailToTheRedskins on Apr 6, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i know you can't represent it here.
but i say the skins move back. that said i think the texans will be a top team in the afc next year. in my limited time watching them the last few years. they looked good. a couple balls bounce the other way and were talking about a team that made it to the playoffs once or twice
Redskins Dream Draft:
1. (10th) TRADE BACK AND ACQUIRE PICKS!!!!
by HailToTheRedskins on Apr 6, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
agree
But our defensive shortcomings were fully exposed last season, with both our staff and the player personnel.
Also have to keep in mind the compitition involved in this division, as well as the entire conference. Looking good doesn’t pay the bills.
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Why does anyone have to listen to experts?
Do your own research on Mike Shanahan’s career, as well as the background and history of his schemes. Shanahan has been around the NFL longer than one year with the Redskins.
And Locker’s body of work is more than last year also. The college and pro games are different beasts anyway. This is about tomorrow in D.C., not about yesterday at the U of W.
Projections don’t necessarily have to be so flexible, sure, but they don’t have to be so rigid, either.
This is a very realistic pick. Again, we like it. Fans don’t have to be happy with it. It’s Shanny’s choice either way, it’s his job, not ours’, and not Redskins fans’.
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Yeh
I expect a lot of Skins fans to hate the Jake locker pick. Shanny has a thick skin, though, and he has full authority to make moves that he thinks are in the best interest of the team. I really expect him to make the Locker pick on draft day. We have laid it out. No one should be shocked. Unhappy? There will always be those who are unhappy. Will it work out? Don’t know. The NFL is very competitive. Only one team can win it all each season. McNabb is way past his prime. I don’t know if Grossman has a prime in him. The options of Gabbert and/or Newton just don’t match up with Shanny’s tastes. Locker it is.
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Buffalo isn't interested in Gabbert from everything I have seen or read
Possible bluff? Perhaps, but none of these “1st round QBs” are anything to get excited about.
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I agree with that
I’d much rather have a top 5 pick and need a QB next year than in this draft… Even still, if Gabbert came out next year he’d probably still be at the very least a fringe top 10 pick, with probably only Luck and Barkley going ahead of him… Newton would probably be a 3rd rounder in next year’s draft… It’s that loaded.
Agreed
And, it’s something we should all keep an eye on in the future. The class of 2011 vs the class of 2012 QBs. The teams that need a QB this season and go for it in the 2011 draft just might be part of the group of the same teams that need a QB in 2012, or will they? And, the teams that need one in 2011 and don’t pull the trigger in 2011, but tread water until the 2012 draft. I think it’s a very interesting dynamic that is worth following in the years to come.
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WHOA
Newton isn’t anything to get excited about?? hmmmm, i respectfully disagree about that one.
mobility wasn't even really that great of a a factor in what we saw in Locker
Locker has a stronger arm, more efficient throwing motion, is comfortable using touch, and from what I’ve seen he can make any throw to any part of the field… while running in any direction!
I don’t understand this perception that has deemed him ‘inaccurate’. Is it based on his collegiate completion percentage? If it’s so, I still don’t understand the perception, and think that QB stats are a slippery slope.
But if that’s based on his mechanics and recognition needing more refinement, then you may have a gripe. Then again, I have similar concerns with Gabbert.
Locker has god-given physical talents that also happen to be tailor made for this offense. Talents that are so rare, they don’t come along very often at all, nor in such a complete QB at the end of their amateur career. Locker was born for Shanny’s scheme, or anything similar.
Is he perfect? No, but neither is anyone else, least of all college QBs.
His weaknesses could be developed into strengths, and quite easily by the Redskins offensive staff I might add.
Two things which I feel are also grossly overlooked when judging any QB draft prospect:
A) the change to a more aerodynamic football
B) they will now have unlimited time to spend with professional coaches and teammates
This aspect of being able to study and practice their craft year round, rather than on a limited basis (as per rule for student athletes and squads) can make all the difference.
Besides, football is entirely situational. Situations affect QB statistics in too many varying degrees. Every play in every game comes under a completely different set of circumstances. Comparing QBs by merely judging their personal statistics becomes foolhardy and probably even impossible.
But with seeing so many of the beautiful completions Locker has trusted his arm to make, with that oval shaped college ball, even using touch to put the pass any place on the football field, then imagining how he could perform with a football that is much easier to throw, and assuming he has the right people around him to refine and maximize his talents as well as his stated weaknesses… well, the end results could concieveably be epic. Gabbert doesn’t appear to have such upside, let alone fit this particular situation with the Redskins.
Many also feel that Locker was surrounded by a lesser cast of teammates at U of Washington, and carried that offensive unit to a Bowl game on his back almost single handedly; but also percieve that the 2011 Redskins will automatically be more of the same. Even if that holds true, the difference is that he can now at least spend day and night with his teammates (and coaching staff -post lockout, anyway) studying game film, and refining both said talents and weaknesses. Moreso, he already has a history, pedigree, and familiarity with the terminology and overall philosophies in a such a similarly structured offense with the Huskies. Something that Gabbert cannot claim to have, and will probably never be able to have. Why put a square peg in a round hole, especially when you have the round peg already at your disposal?
The Redskins have a coaching staff in place that knows how to maximize the talent of any offensive weapon they could possibly bring in. Now imagine how they drool, when the see such a QB prospect who has already brings so many coveted and hard to acquire natural talents which really cannot be furthered in any other player that would become available at another later point, let alone any human being, period.
The so called ‘West Coast Offense’ is only complex to those who refuse to or cannot adapt to it, otherwise the main concept of it is running the highest percentage plays possible. Which, in a nutshell, equals simplicity for anyone who grows comfortable within its confines. Look at the results it has spawned over time, breeding high completion percentages (for instance) out of lesser passers, and high-end results out of so many lesser offensive weapons time and again. Now plug in a rare natural talent like an Andre Johnson, an Arian Foster, or a Steve young, and the result is completeley beserk!
How can you even sit there and say that Locker doesn’t fit the ‘WCO’? If allowed to grow professionally in that system, the completions will more than take care of themselves. He seems to be, in fact, a natural fit.
Of course, as was mentioned, the only thing we could not account for, here, was Locker’s personality or mental makeup. We were not granted access to interview Jake Locker.
Now I can admit that I am wrong sometimes. But there’s so much of this Locker/Redskins equation that just makes perfect sense.
Sorry for my blowhardedness, or if I came across as too disagreeable, but this match is a pretty simple one from where we stood.
/Bryan8675309’d
I'm not trying to pee in anyone's cornflakes
I’m just repeating what’s been said in many other places… For instance on Walterfootball.com, there’s this update for Gabbert..
" 3/18/11: Blaine Gabbert had an outstanding Pro Day. He completed 47-of-50 passes with two drops. He showed great deep accuracy, prompting many – including Mike Mayock and Michael Lombardi – to declare that Gabbert will be the first quarterback off the board. Mayock likened Gabbert’s Pro Day to Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford’s. Lombardi, meanwhile, said he’d draft Gabbert if he were the general manager of the Panthers."
… and this one for Locker…
" 3/31/11: Jake Locker completed 39-of-41 passes at his Pro Day, showing improved accuracy. However, Locker wasn’t particularly impressive. First of all, there were not a lot of outside-the-number throws, per Michael Lombardi. And second, it’s quite apparent that Locker isn’t high on my boards because only one head coach (Pete Carroll) was present for Washington’s Pro Day. At this rate, it’ll be pretty shocking if Locker is selected in the first round."
Gabbert has a pro day and people gush afterwards about him being the #1 overall pick… Locker has his pro day and people respond with ‘meh, looks like a 2nd round pick to me’…. Maybe you’re right, the “experts” get several picks wrong in every draft.., but it doesn’t look like many people in the know agree with you. Most seem to think now that Christian Ponder is a better NFL prospect than Locker that I can tell… just sayin…
I've always respected your opinion.
Plus I’ve been waiting for anyone to start punching some substantial holes in this pick, other than the argument that “typical nationwide generic draft boards have Gabbert rated higher”.
Keep in mind that Jay Cutler was rated by most as a second rounder, in addition to the fact that neither Shanahan nor any Broncos’ personnel attended Cutler’s pro day. Funny thing happened, though. Shanahan’s Broncos happened to trade up and select Cutler with the 13th pick (I believe) in the 1st Round of that draft.
From what I’ve seen, myself, of Locker on film, as well as read from his scouting reports, is that one of his biggest strengths is his passes to the sideline and deep out/corner passes in general. So, is it so bad that he focused (and was successful) at some of the lesser known aspects of his game during his pro day? Or should we be spoon fed by generalizations and overall shortsighted misconceptions (or maybe even deception) from the Maycocks and Lombardis?
Cannon arm. Loves deep outs and deep corners. Quick release. Uses touch. Mobile. Throws extremely well on the run. Carries an entire offensive unit, maybe even his entire team, on his own shoulders.
Sounds even more like another former Shanahan QB. Who, you ask? John Elway.
Just saying.
I won't deny Locker has a strong arm
But so does Gabbert, it’s one of his greatest strengths as well… Gabbert is also accurate in the short passing game, inside and out as well as he’s apparantly shown in workouts that he can be very accurate in the long game as well. Gabbert often could be seen checking down to the 3rd or 4th option then back to #1…, Locker drops back looks for #1, maybe #2, then he’s gone…
It’s not just about ability, Locker has quite a long history of making poor decisions in games.. Gabbert isn’t flawless in that regard either, but he appears the more controlled player of the two. You watch Locker play and you can see that he’s itching to get out of the pocket as soon as he drops back…
Who knows, if anyone can coach that out of him it’s the shanahans, and perhaps they can play him to his strengths outside of the pocket untill he can become a more all-around player. I’m not saying Locker can’t be a great QB, I think talent wise he has about as much if not more than anyone in this class…, but I think Gabbert has a higher floor than Locker and about the same ceiling, so it’d be difficult for me to draft Locker ahead of Gabbert.
Honestly in this situation, if I were the Redskins i’d have drafted Julio Jones as they’re still looking for a reliable deep threat then in the 2nd round.. who knows Locker could still be available, if not Christian Ponder could also run those naked bootlegs baby shan loves.. He doesn’t have a huge arm but he’s very accurate and probably the most NFL ready of all the QBs in this class…. I’d worry a little bit with him throwing accross his body on those bootlegs though, he doesn’t have the arm strength to rifle it in there.., it’ll float a bit and could be scary if the reciever isn’t wide open… But you can design plays to play to your player’s strengths.
But I think overdrafting Locker at #10 kinda puts him in the same spot he was with Washington, a QB best suited to moving the pocket and out throwing the coverage, but without the WR to consistently catch it… They could have drafted Jones at #10 then try to package future picks to move back up into the first to get Locker… but i’m not sure what kind of picks they have this year to offer in a trade.
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by Bryan72076 on Apr 4, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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I like Gabbert. A good deal actually. Just not so much for these Washington Redskins. But all that matters is what Shanahan and the organization actually think; I have no delusions there.
I agree that whoever takes Locker needs to get his mechanics and patience straightened out. He’ll need to be able to step up into the pocket and make throws, else much of the praise and comparisons I’ve granted to him are for naught.
The free agency part of this offseason hasn’t really even started, plus there are plenty of interesting OL and WR prospects abound in this draft. We would have to suspect that there’s also some hidden talent that Washington will be able to spot as well (both rookie and veteran), so one cannot simply assume that the Redskins offense will be anywhere as depleted going into Year Two of the “Shanahan Ultimatum”, as Richard Justice Rip Jersey likes to call it. The Redskins need to find players at nearly every offensive position aside from TE, and you can bet your ass that both Snyder and Shanahan plan to be damned aggressive in going about reclamating that side of the ball. It should be common knowledge that building a first class offense is the first main step in whatever the Redskins hope to be under Coach Shanahan. It’s also the most depleted part of their team, talent wise.
You bring up some valid counter points now, as well as some possible alternatives. It’s appreciated.
Re: escaping the pocket too early...
Something I’ve heard in almost every evaluation… of Gabbert.
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Re: pro days
It’s almost like one of them was more of a one year wonder and needed to prove more than the other, who had been doing it for several years. Also, I know a portion of the pro days are scripted throws, but doesn’t a pro scout make requests to see certain things from a prospect while they’re there? Makes sense that they would, being that their job is also on the line.
Nothing against what Bryan said, but there seems there might be layers to this onion called the draft.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Under this scenario, I think the Skins start McNabb or Grossman at QB this year, or possibly bring in some other free agent QB for the near term.
Mike Sims-Walker might be the type of receiver who could help to bolster their receiving corps for now.
anyone could bolster their recieving corps
They are the worst in the league. If there was any year to bypass a QB, it would be this year. They all have a few warts and next year has a lot more NFL ready QB’s. Next years Draft could have even more QB’s with first round grades and experience in pro style offenses —Luck, Barkley, Landry Jones, Nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, and Tyrell Pryor are all first round possibilities. Take Julio (who really does remind me of AJ coming out of college) and bring in a veteran QB to compete with the sex cannon for snaps (Alex Smith?). . .
amateur QBs always have warts
I just think Locker and MSW could be exceptional fits in the eyes of Shan. One in the hand is worth two in the bush.
true. . .
It very well could happen. I know we aren’t doing trades in this mock, so there’s always that. I think if this were to truly happen on draft day, Washington would try and swap picks with St. Louis for the 14th pick and take Locker or Gabbert there. . .
but as mentioned
if we were correct in our grade of Locker (and who knows, it’s not like we interviewed him) there are many teams hungry for a QB, especially in such a lukewarm class. Some of those teams pick earlier than # 10.
If the Bush is Frank
It may be a lot more than 2
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by Barryfromtexas on Apr 4, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
as far as the AJ comparison goes
I disagree. Julio’s hands are teh suck, his route running is less advanced than AJ’s was, and he has an upright running style.
The knock on AJ coming out of college was that he was a better athlete than reciever. At Miami he basically only ran three routes—quick slant, 10 yard comeback, and fly. He really developed a lot of the nuances of route running in the pros. I found an article from back in the day, and you can almost word for word switch their names and colleges and release the article today and nobody would no the difference. It’s cool to go back and see what everyone was saying back then. . .
Wow, good find
That article is seriously a cut and paste away from being an article on Julio Jones.
The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept
while it's amusing to see Pasquarelli's botched sentiments on Andre
Julio is definitely the “body catcher” type
He absolutely is on the way out
But, he’s not out until he’s out
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by The Night Owl on Apr 4, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Mmhmm
I don’t knock the pick at all. Jake’s the kind of QB Shanny likes as is Andy Dalton. Since you can’t trade, I think it works. There were a good number of mocks who had this same pick last month, so it’s not too off the wall.
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and, we could have said just that, but we like to write stuff, so you got it all....
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I think we laid down the gauntlet for the BRB/Texans Fake FO
I’m feeling sorry for them right now…..
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Who edited our tripe or who the Texans Fake FO is?
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I'm sure they'll figure it out
They’re supposed to be team or sumphin, aren’t they?
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the BRB staff is a myth at this point
Scott will choose the Texans pick by default
by Cut Block on Apr 4, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
At first I thought it would throw off the whole mock, but it really doesn’t seem to make any difference since everyone else passed on Gabbert
Hmmm
As much as it pains me and seems completely counter intuitive, I don’t see how we can’t pick Julio in this scenario. The decision basically comes down to:
1) WR who doesn’t fill your biggest need but is arguably the greatest talent available
2) CB who should under no circumstances start this season, and picking him may backfire by causing RSmith to spend less on a FA CB. Because that’s how he works.
3) DE who doesn’t have an opportunity to get many snaps barring injury but could be good value down the road and provide flexibility.
In terms of cap management (which could change, who knows?), positional value and following the Dark Lord Belichikian way I really hate picking a WR here but I just can’t completely write it off either for some reason. It seems even stranger to me when you have a HC who is an alleged offensive genius and can get solid production out of later round picks at WR/TE/RB, so you aren’t taking advantage of that leverage when you spend a 1st on a WR instead of getting a 4th rounder to play like a 1st…
LOL
I’d personally be happy seeing Julio land in Houston, and I wouldn’t rule it out entirely. Although this scenario screams “trade down” for our Texans.
Yes in real life
Definitely a trade down, as much as I like the idea of having Julio if it was a NFL Blitz Madden franchise, but in this mock setup it’s trickier
I would be ok with that
But I know some/many on here (most notably AllenOU) seriously despise Prince and I have seen very little of him to know whether they are right or not.
From what I’ve seen so far though, I would be all for GQ AND Prince at safety—anything to keep away Troy Nolan and give us flexibility in the backfield—and still go after a FA CB plus a 2/3/4 rounder like Aaron Williams or Davon House. This secondary needs a serious overhaul and I find that scenario more likely than Smith paying for a FA CB & safety.
Now THERE'S an idea I haven't heard before...
Prince and Quin as the safety tandem. Peep….
We’re going to sign a FA corner to start anyway, if we move GQ to safety, so that doesn’t change, also the word is that Prince will eventually be a safety anyway. Add to that, the premise that Wade’s free and strong safeties are very similar, and bingo. Very interesting.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
I went to the Redskins site
and saw the poll Rip had put up, most wanted Julio or Blaine not Locker.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Logical
I like the logic behind the pick, but I think, if they did go QB, it’d be Gabbert and not Locker.
Still, they did some nice justificatin’.
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After what Shanny just went through...
I can see him liking Locker more than Blaine. Both are great athletes, which fits the mold, but several have said Gabbert comes off rather douchey, while we know what Locker gave up to stay at UW with his brethren. Shanny might pick (out of these two anyway) solely on what it brings to the locker room.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
At the point we made our decision final, Gabbert was well ahead in votes
Their sentiment for drafting a QB only emboldened us to take Locker even more. If Joe Gibbs were still running the show there, we would have considered Gabbert more seriously. Mike Shanahan ain’t Joe Gibbs.
This is exactly the point why I was swayed to Locker, too
Locker is Shanahan’s guy. I has been documented that Shanahan likes him. Locker is his “type” of QB. There actually is a lot of doubt out there about Gabbert. A lot of draft analysts are now wondering how it is that Gabbert has ascended to such lofty draft expectations. I think we made an excellent draft pick with regarding Washington’s situation. We had to put ourselves into Shanny’s mind.
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TL;DR
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
If Julio and Gabbert on the board. . .
The obvious thing to do would be and try and trade down because someone will want one of those two. St. Louis for a 3rd and 6th most likely. You could even get a 4th rounder from Minnesota for flopping picks and not accepting anybody elses offer. . .
If we threw in Okoyefetus
do you think we could bump that 4th up to a 3?
Mock Draft Conspiracy Theorists Are Pleased
That we set up the Amukamara-Quinn-Jones triumvirate.
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by riversmccown on Apr 4, 2011 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Just imagine Robert "The Tumor" Quinn
peekin’ over Marios shoulder off the edge on 3rd and long.
by theSpaceCityKid on Apr 4, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
THEN imagine us lining up in our often used 3 WR sets with
Dre-Julio-KW and opposing DBs passing out
by theSpaceCityKid on Apr 4, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
If you havent goo'd and went to sleep already...NOW imagine
3 yrs down the road and we have one of the strongest secondaries in the NFL with a 1st rd draft pick CB combo of Amukamara/Jackson with Quin at FS and a top tier free agent SS signing that would cost around half of a top tier CB signing.
by theSpaceCityKid on Apr 4, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait, nevermind, TDC took Quinn for SF
Conspiracy theorists need some more coffee.
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by riversmccown on Apr 4, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeh, I was wondering where you were going with that....
Coffee is the answer
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And, as a 49er GM, we are pleased that our pass rush will have someone on the outside
"Lord, beer me strength."
Rec'ed
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Former Saints and Rams HC, Jim Haslett, was hired as the Redskins’ new Defensive Coordinator and given the task of transitioning the Skins’ 4-3 defense into a 3-4 scheme.
The Washington Redskins ranked 31st in total yards given up and 31st in passing yards given up. This Redskins defense also gave up 59 points to the Eagles in what was one of the most high scoring games in NFL history.
Yupp, Haslett hasn’t changed.
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Someone's gonna have to get you an Amukamara jersey should he really be the pick in April
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If he becomes a texan
I will be one of his biggest fans from day one
by AllenOU on Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Glad to see
You and Rusty Smith finally agree on something…
Amukanothanks.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I agree with this move.
Of course, my top two QBs are Locker and Ponder, but still. I think Locker is a much better long-term option for the ’Skins. My only concern is I really think he ought to have someone to sit behind for at least a little bit.
Anyhow, good pick. I like the prospect of being able to choose Amukamara or Julio Jones, or having both of them there and if it were the real draft, we could conceivably trade down if we decide we decide we’re not taking a corner.
Dream Texans Draft:
1. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
2. Sam Acho, OLB, Texas
3. Sione Fua, NT, Stanford
4. Tyler Sash, S, Iowa
5. Chykie Brown, CB, Texas
6. Jerrod Johnson, QB, Texas A&M
7. Chas Henry, P, Florida
Ponder doesn't get the pub he deserves
I think he’s gonna be a good QB. Maybe not great/elite, but he’ll be pretty good.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Dalton will be better then him.
Is that Boise State QB coming out too have not heard anything about him.
Jared Zabransky?!
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Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Shouldn't there be a summary?
It would be nice if a list of the picks made so far was posted… especially for the FO’s still picking:)
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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 4, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
1. Carolina—Cam Newton (QB—Auburn)
2. Denver—Patrick Peterson (CB—LSU)
3. Buffalo—Marcell Dareus (DT—Alabama)
4. Cincinnati—Von Miller (OLB/DE—Texas A&M)
5. Arizona—A.J. Green (WR—Georgia)
6. Cleveland—Da’Quan Bowers (DE—Clemson)
7. San Francisco—Robert Quinn (LB—North Carolina)
8. Tennessee—Nick Fairley (DT—Auburn)
9. Arlington—Tyron Smith (OT—USC)
10. Washington— Jake ’the Snake" Locker (QB—Washington)
Look
My disdain for prince is pretty well known around here.
BUT…
If the texans take him, i will scream and moan and bitch through the end of may, and then i would be over it.
Once he is a texan, I will be rooting for him to become the best CB or S in the texans short history.
there is only one player, well 2, I would NEVER root for if they were a texan, would be rhett bomar and vince young. i just couldnt do it.
Put it this way…. if we draft prince and Im wrong, I will help the guy find a house FOR FREE
by AllenOU on Apr 4, 2011 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I honestly like this pick.
Locker is physically the most gifted QB in this draft. He has all of the tools.
His accuracy has been an issue, but he had a hell of a season prior to last year’s draft, so he can be a fantastic QB.
I’m not high on Gabbert, mainly because his decision making is poor. He’s like David Carr in many ways, like holding on to the ball way too long, or just making a bone-headed play.
Locker just needs to work on his accuracy. He’s a mobile QB who can also throw outside the pocket.
He’s more NFL ready than Gabbert is, and that’s why I think the Redskins fake FO made a good pick here.
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Dear Redskins Front Office,
Y’all SUCK!
Locker was supposed to have a date with destiny, and destiny was wearing a lime green jersey!
If anybody needs me, I’ll be setting a voodoo Mike Shanahan on fire. CURSE YOU, SKELETOR!!!!!
Yours,
UT
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That's not the point.
He’s a Washington native, went to the University of Washington, he should STAY in Washington (and I don’t mean D.C.)
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by UprootedTexan on Apr 4, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
we can always trade him to Seattle
For Christhurst, Seattle’s 1st and 2nd Rounders in 2012… and here’s the deal breaker… you must free Daniel Charles!
No deal.
We can always tank the season and get Andrew Luck next year.
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I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Apr 4, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear Redskins Front Office,
You should’ve thought of that before taking Locker.
Yours,
UT
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I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Apr 4, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe we could involve a 3rd team?
the Texans are reportedly interested in getting involved. They would send you the greastest, most famous WR prospect of all time, one Julio Jones. All you would need to add to the rest of the original proposal is a planetoid NT. Any planetoid NT. I’m sure your team has one you’d easliy spare?
Even if we had one, still no deal.
With the first pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks select Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford.
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I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Apr 4, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
We want LaRon Landry
And Brian Orakpo for what you’re asking.
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by UprootedTexan on Apr 4, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
Pfft! You really thought I was serious, didn’t you?
Better hope Danny can fill in as your QB for a year, and Luck emerges through that amateur rugby season unscathed!
Nite everyone! It’s been fun to see all the activity around here!
Shoot, I know better than that!
After all, they said no trading allowed.
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by UprootedTexan on Apr 4, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard Matt Leinart has been working out
….at the spa
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
How much weight has he been lifting?
12, 24, 32, or 40 ounces?
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by The Night Owl on Apr 5, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAH!
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