Top 10 Texans Draft Busts - #9: Amobi Okoye
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 5, 2011 2:00 PM CDT
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When he was drafted in 2007, Amobi Okoye was just 12 years old. Or so it seems. Even the Okoye apologists like me have been saying that Okoye is young (he'll play 2011 at only 24 years old), and there's absolutely no argument that Okoye has been coached or used appropriately, which is a tremendous failure by the incompetent 1-2 punch of Richard Smith and Frank Bush. Alas, Okoye needs to answer for his play, especially as a first round pick.
Scouting reports like this are the norm from that period, not the exception. Watching Okoye while at Louisville was truly a pleasure, as he was obviously strong and quick. The whole block-shedding thing, however, failed to translate to the NFL. But Okoye burst onto the scene in 2007, quickly winning Defensive Rookie of the Month for September with four sacks, finishing the year with 5.5. In 2008, he recorded a single sack, and just 1.5 in 2009. Last year, he was much more effective, but he still finished with just 3.0 sacks, though his stats do belie his overall effectiveness.
When you're the 10th overall pick in the draft, there are higher expectations, and Okoye has not developed as hoped. Even worse, Okoye has no discernible role (we know of) in Wade Phillips' 3-4 defense, and it's been rumored Okoye in on the trading block.
Okoye does have potential if used in the right situation and coached by somebody other than Bill Kollar, but for now, he's earned a place on the bust list.
Next three picks after Okoye: Patrick Willis, SF 49ers; Marshawn Lynch, Buffalo Bills, Adam Carriker, St. Louis Rams (Darrelle Revis was next).
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Travis Johnson smiles
Hoverounds back to the buffet bar....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Soooo much potential
Soooo little production. I can count the number of big time impact plays Amobi has made since being drafted on both hands.
Used improperly? Sure, but I’ll say it again….elite players will still find a way to make impact plays even in a shitty system with shitty coaches. Just ask Andre Johnson, who had Chris Palmer and David Carr.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Looking forward to the surprises here
Kareem is probably too early?
T.Johnson?
Babin?
…Charles Hill?
Fred Bennett?
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
Too early for KJax
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Does P-Buc count as a draft pick since we lost picks to acquire him?
Please say yes.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
What do you think?
Does he count?
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If the picks given up are significant, let's say top 3 rounds, then yes
If you trade your future for trash, I say it counts.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
And vice versa
If the player was 4th round or later, it’s hard to call him a bust, because that is such a crapshoot, finding a gem in the mid to later rounds.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
My thoughts...
I think that the 2005 Draft in its entirety should be ranked as the #1 draft bust of the Texans.
But giving up mid-round 2nd & 3rd picks for a young player who falls on his face (especially if near the ball carrier) could qualify as a draft bust.
Fuck Charlie.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
That would be a total cheap shot since we didn't draft him.
Therefore, I am all for it.
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by riversmccown on Apr 5, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't worry
John McClain tells me Amobi is good against the run
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
I thought the McClains and McCowns weren't on speaking terms.....
blood war! yaknow…
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Is Beefy the sponsor for these posts?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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whoa whoa whoa, who the fuck is amobi okoye?
i thought we drafted amino okoye back in 2008?
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Apr 5, 2011 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
We drafted a Function Group of organic chemicals with a nitrogen end.
Because if so I think that means we could make a good claim in for Darrelle Revis.
Why is bill kolar still a coach on this team
just cause kubs and kolar are besties? seriously how could mcnair make kubs fire everyone and leave the dline bum on. Wade has said that having a good front will cover up in adequacies in the back. sooo i dont understand.
He's also the assistant head coach
So……yeah……burn the assistant head coach!
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Apr 6, 2011 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Amobi A Bust?
HOW DARE YOU, SIR.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Apr 5, 2011 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Ahhhh, the panda suit comes off....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
You rang?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
By the Way, here's the video from Jordann and BFD's "ceremony" this past weekend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS75-oSCZFo
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
That wasn't me.
That was BFD’s ex-wife. Hence, the polar bear suit.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I was thinking something completely different when he referred to her as "frigid"
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Where does Timobi McKoye rank on this list?
"Each day is better than the next" ~ Dom "Woogie" Woganowski
I think there should be a distinction between being a draft bust, and being a player who failed to meet expectations but was still able to contribute
I’m not saying Okoye doesn’t deserve to be on this list, but I don’t think Okoye has been a complete bust. He’s likely gone, but that has as much to do with switching to a 3-4 as it does with his play. He will likely go to another 4-3 team and be an effective part of rotation mostly used on passing downs. Dissapointment? Yes. Bust? Maybe for the Texans if he ends up leaving, but that doesn’t mean he won’t have a solid NFL career.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I know Tim would probably have him #1 or so
Heh. BUT, yeah, that’s why I have him at #9. I think he’s got a great chance to go contribute somewhere. Eric Swann’s career might be a good comp, considering how both were so young when they entered the league. It took Swann a couple years to really figure things out, but Okoye at least had college experience.
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Does Okoye really have the talent to be a star?
Wade has been touted as one who adjusts his system to suit the talents of his players, and yet he never mentions Okoye in his plans. I cant believe he would garner a high pick in a trade, so I wonder why he isnt in our plans.
If he has the talent, then either he hasnt been utilized properly or else he just doesnt put out the effort. In either case, a change in coaching could potentially change that. You would think they would at least take another year to see if that was the case rather than dumping him for a lower value pick. And yet, they never mention Okoye in their future plans.
The logical explanation for this course of action seems to be that his overall talent level was badly misjudged when he was drafted, which indeed would make this a wasted pick.
In any event, I will be interested in seeing how this all turns out.
And did I mention
That Okoye is never mentioned in their plans?
Gah…where is the edit button???
I would think he'd be perfect in Wade's system
As a 1-gap NT. Wade doesn’t seem to think so.
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At least that's what we're assuming
Wade hasn’t said anything about him one way or the other. McClain’s and LZ have speculated that he’s on the way out. LZ said he was speculating. We don’t know if pancakes was being a good little mouthpiece or if he was just wrong (which happens often).
I think Wade’s silence certainly makes it seem as if he’s not part of the plan, but it’s not guaranteed yet.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Wade can only go by what he's seen on film, also.
He’s never had the chance to work with Amobi, and that still hasn’t changed. You’d have to believe he’ll take a wait and see approach, until he’s had the chance to do some coaching up.
Reading between the lines, it sure doesn’t seem like he’s very high on Okoye at this point.
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