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Rock The Vote: Prince Amukamara Or Julio Jones In The 2011 BRB Mock Draft?

Lots of good debate here. So good, in fact, that it's time for a poll.

While other players did warrant discussion, the vast majority of you have narrowed your focus to Prince Amukamara or Julio Jones. Accordingly, BRB will be drafting one of those guys with the 11th overall pick in our mock draft.

Star-divide

I ask you: Who do you want to see the Texans select in the 2011 BRB Mock Draft?

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With The Eleventh Overall Pick Of The 2011 BRB Mock Draft, Your Houston Texans Should Select:
Julio Jones
159 votes
Prince Amukamara
167 votes

326 votes | Poll has closed

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What's there to debate?

Jones is like awesome and stuff and makes us better next year.

Prince has a great name.

by DisplacedTexan on Apr 5, 2011 10:29 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Julio Jones, as much as I want this defense fixed

You can’t pass up having the most awesome offense EVER!

Damnit Displaced, you pulled out the name card.

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by Schlauton on Apr 5, 2011 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Jones.

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

HAHA

that one vote for prince certainly is not from me.

Instead of voting for JJ, can I vote NOT for Prince

And yes, even if he played for the sooners I would hate him Battleredhusker

by AllenOU on Apr 5, 2011 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

In the words of P. Puff Daddy Diddy: VOTE OR DIE

I voted Scrabble Jr simply because he’ll add talent to a talent-deficient defensive backfield.

I like both talents though and would be happy with either one as they are the best offensive and defensive talents that’ll likely be available at our spot.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 5, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Scrabble Jr?

Because of his last name right? Not talent level.

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's more talented than Joe Haden was coming into the league last season

and because I didn’t wanna spell out Amukamara and double-check it.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 5, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

More of a Malcolm Jenkins type of player to me.

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Jenkins kinda sucked his first year

Now he’s easily our 2nd best defensive Player.

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by Jon Banks on Apr 5, 2011 1:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"yes!!!!!!"

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by beefy on Apr 12, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

more talented than HADEN?

i disagree STRONGLY. more talented then kareem maybe, but MARK MY WORDS

brandon harris will be the better CB of the two, and Id rather take him at 11.

Do you guys watch the BIG 12 games?

He reminds me a Mike Rumph, who i believe was picked 27th in the david carr draft, by either SAN FRAN or OAK, cant remember. I think San Fran

by AllenOU on Apr 5, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rumph was taken by San Francisco

and I do watch Big 12 games. I saw a lot I liked from Amukamara. I don’t disagree that Harris is talented himself, but I think Amukamara is all-around better than Haden.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 5, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

And to those proclaiming that this pick (and almost all picks) should go defense

Talent is talent. Fact is, Houston needs all the talent it can get. Nine years of no playoffs means you can’t overlook one side for the other.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 5, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Julio

I think I’ve made my stance pretty damn clear on this

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Apr 5, 2011 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Great job trolling the girls on my fb LOLOLOL

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh ha ha ha ha!

I saw that thread and resisted commenting…but I may rethink that now.

by Mike Kerns on Apr 5, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah im trying to stay away from that conversation lol

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to see you've finally come around on this one.

It took forever to talk you out of your love of Robert Quinn.

How do you do sarcasm font again?

by Nashmeister on Apr 5, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

but not in the title line.

You have to do it down here

like this

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by texanslady on Apr 5, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

And no space

Charley Casserly was a great GM

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 5, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can do it

DOWN THERE

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll do ya down there!

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha!

sloppy seconds, have at it!

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Julio only if....

They are going to bring in a vet safety and corner.

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by CoolBreeze3 on Apr 5, 2011 10:57 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeppers

If we don’t get veteran, free agent help in the secondary, we are playing for 2012. Period. End of story.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 5, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

ANDREW LUCK!

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 5, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

NO!

He’s going to Seattle!

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by UprootedTexan on Apr 5, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That should be all the more reason to get him.

He beat Pete at U$C. Besides, he’s got a swarm of Cal players already, if that hasn’t driven him insane yet, nobody from Stanford’s gonna.

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by UprootedTexan on Apr 5, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

this is true whether we go Prince OR Julio, is it not?

by theSpaceCityKid on Apr 5, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

Texans have taken too much time! Minnesota now on the clock races to the podium to take Julio Jones.

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by Seaborn1 on Apr 5, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Have to vote defense

Amukamara, even IF they get a veteran free agent CB. Julio Jones is an amazing talent, but Julio Jones with 5 or 6 productive years left and tons of experience is already on the team. Any kind of productive pass defense is not.

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Based on?

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Based on nothing really

I meant 2-3 years of superstar left. Im guessing you meant 5-6 serviceable years. He won’t be this good at 35 IMO.

Maybe your right, but the possibility of the two gets me excited

by AllenOU on Apr 5, 2011 2:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can list the ten top WRs in the modern game

and they all were productive at least to the age of 35. Do I need to do that or do you believe me.

Anyways, I see no reason why AJ can’t continue at least to 35 and he turns 30 this year. That is six more seasons of high productivity.

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Out of curiosity

Id like to see your list

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by Riott on Apr 5, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, AOU was probably spot on with the "3 years" part

AJ should have been sat early on, with his high ankle spain. I remember reading somewhere that it’s a degenerative issue now.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see the list

But I believe you if you say so.

His ankle issues are a legitimate concern

At the very least I expect a slight drop off on 2-3 years.

This would make a good blog entry…..

by AllenOU on Apr 5, 2011 3:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If one of you BRB Manager/Author types want to tackle that subject

have at it. I don’t own any ideas, no matter how original…

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

over 35 yrs old?

yeah, I can see why you left that one on the drawing board

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by Cut Block on Apr 6, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

all this racism is just killing me inside!

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by Cut Block on Apr 6, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just say no

To injecting even more youth to the secondary. BPA and open the wallet in free agency.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Apr 5, 2011 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

even if the wallet opens

free agency won’t be enough to fill all the holes in the secondary imo.

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even though Prince fits a need more, I'm going Julio

I believe in taking best player available every time when you have a pick this high.

by Mike Kerns on Apr 5, 2011 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

most boards I've seen

rank Prince higher, but they are usually very close, so the BPA logic doesn’t really fit when choosing between these two… unless some of us are actual NFL scouts… and I mean the good ones like the Pats have;)

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

bah!

Even if it’s a difference between a couple of spots on a draft board, does it really mean much?

Let’s see a draft board with tiers!

:-P

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

my point of view too…

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by doelmel on Apr 9, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

And!

Mike Kerns has never been wrong using his draft logic and player evaluation sense…

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watch your tone!

Kerns has never been wrong about anything. And never will.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are out of your mind

I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about Mario. Pretty much the only one I was sorta right about was that Amobi would be a flop (still debatable, I guess) and that Cushing would be solid. I don’t claim to be a draft expert. There’s plenty of those in the Texans blogosphere.

by Mike Kerns on Apr 6, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait.....

Did Mike Kerns just say he wasn’t a draft expert? No. He said he doesn’t claim to be an expert. He’s modest, too! I bow to you, Mike Kerns.

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

we joke

because we care

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by Cut Block on Apr 6, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

What if BPA is a TE?

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by papabear on Apr 7, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to get too far off topic...

But I’m curious how people would feel if Julio Jones were picked higher and AJ Green was the one available? It seems like there is a strong man crush on Julio specifically and I’m not sure if the same is true for Green.

by Jason Brown on Apr 5, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't be too sad about Green instead of Julio

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by The Night Owl on Apr 5, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I would rather have Julio

but I’d still be extremely happy with AJ Green.

by cubic on Apr 5, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Julio more than Green

Total opinion, though.

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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 5, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind being a contarian, of course

Given the choice between those two, AJ Green would be my pick

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be ecstatic for Green

But he is even less likely to be picked if he was there because of his “character issues.” That don’t fly with Bob.

by Mike Kerns on Apr 5, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Green's fine

but I just don’t like him more than Julio, personally.

I do think it’ll come down to WR vs Aldon Smith vs maybe Amukamara though….word amongst Insiders say Quinn’s pro day display has made him a top-10 lock barring any slip up in personal interviews and workouts.

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by TexansDC on Apr 5, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Julio played for Alabama

somewhat of a CollegeCrush of the FO and he was part of a run-first offense where he had to do a lot of blocking, which im sure Kubes and Co love so he just seems like more of a "fit " than AJ Green. However, the BPA arguement would remain the same and I don think the result for the Texans would change all that much either to be honest.

by theSpaceCityKid on Apr 5, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would take Green over Julio in a heartbeat

But I’ve never seen him get past #7 or so, I figure it’s much like Von Miller.

by riversmccown on Apr 5, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Green over Jones.

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJ would be more tempting for me

not sure what I would do then to be honest. I think people got carried away with the broken foot at the combine thing.

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree on Green, even if Julio's foot is a non-issue

The foot may just be a non-issue, though it could also be a lingering problem. We’d need to see the x-rays and get a medical opinion.

But I will say from experience (in both cases) that broken bones in the foot can heal up quite nicely, though other times they quickly become chronic issues. It’s likely a crapshoot IMO.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

but I was actually referring to the way the Julio Jones bandwagon ballooned after he ran such a fast 40 on a broken foot at the combine. It was one of those stories that gave people opinions about his WR abilities without having even watched any film of him. People seem to assume our offense will improve by drafting this guy and I just don’t see how.

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, all it means if we draft him

Is that we’ve given up hope on either Jacoby or Dorin. Julio needs plenty of refinement, too. He’s far from flawless.

One could assume that there are less familiar names out there, that our staff would even prefer, at that.

This Julio stuff sorta reminds me of all the Reggie Bush and VY love that Houston fans had in ’06.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

my bad

it would also mean that our staff has immediate confidence in next year’s defensive lineup

/and that’s just silly

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me likey the comparison

I’m gonna remember that one;)

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

The guy can hurdle the uprights for crying out loud!

How can he not help…

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

And JaMarcus Russell could throw 60 yards from his knees.

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by UprootedTexan on Apr 5, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he couldn't throw it and catch it at the same time

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Julio can't do either one

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

but, he can hurdle the goalposts, as I mentioned

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question

Is this poll up because the BRB Fake FO missed their deadline to get their selection in?

(Insert comeback below)

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it will be kinda like a cold front meeting a warm-wet front

winds swirling, lightning, dark clouds and then….

kinda like Tim printing t-shirts

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it depends on how the FO feels about Dorin Dickerson.

If the Front Office likes what they see in Dorin, I don’t see them spending a draft pick on Julio. Right now they’ve got AJ and Kevin Walter locked up in deals, they’ve tendered Jacoby with a 2nd round pick, and there’s still David Anderson and Dorin. In the secondary though, there’s….what? A rookie corner isn’t always the greatest option, certainly rookie WRs adapt to the NFL quicker, but a rookie corner sure as heck can’t be any worse than what we fielded last year. And in 1-2 years or so, we ought to have a dynamite secondary.

I wouldn’t be upset w/ a Julio pick though. Just wish we had Free Agency already underway to clear up some of this mess.

by La Voz on Apr 5, 2011 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

David Anderson

The most signed Texans player evar!

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by Barryfromtexas on Apr 6, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uhhh, how about Aldon Smith?

I’d take him over those two guys.

However, I voted for Amukamara, simply because we need improvement on our defense.

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by bone31crusher on Apr 5, 2011 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm with you

If we draft Prince to be a safety, then I think that’s a nice pick at #10. Otherwise, give us the belated planetoid.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, Mike Kerns is starting to make sense

The world is spinning on its axis again…

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

What was I not making sense about before? Robert Quinn?

by Mike Kerns on Apr 6, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just having fun at your expense Mike Kerns

That was my way of saying I like Cameron Jordan better than Aldon Smith, too. And, we’ll never find out who would be better, because they’ll never both end up on the Texans. But, it’s good to speculate on this. I just wonder how Cameron Jordan will be used in the NFL. I see the guy as destined to be a solid player wherever he goes.

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

the 'indiffrent to losing' schtick

;-)

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by Cut Block on Apr 6, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, well

Can’t say I’m past that. But I’m loyal to a fault. So I’m not going anywhere.

by Mike Kerns on Apr 6, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take Jones

No more rookie corners, at least not this year…

by JBal on Apr 5, 2011 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

he could also play FS

secondary guys are more interchangeable than any other position on the team.

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was referring to Prince of course

As amusing as drafting a WR and moving him to FS would be, I don’t see the Texans doing that;)

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

but we know he would be a shutdown DB if he had taken that route instead don’t we? I love me some AJ. He’s the main reason I’m still a Texans fan. I’m gonna have to look up some video and see if I can spot him playing some D. Thanks

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah, it only happened on special occasions. I remeber the Jets using Keyshawn in those situations, also.

I would assume that AJ had enough talent to be a safety prospect, though he’s probably way too big to be any kind of useful CB.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would seem ideal as FS

but he’s such a beast, I would be tempted to try him at SS. You know he could play the run.

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by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

and we've seen him hit!

someone please post the gif of that epic play against Arizona in 2010, here’s your cue…

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you said he can hit

I thought you were referring to when he beat the crap out of Innegan

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by The Night Owl on Apr 5, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that happening too

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by papabear on Apr 7, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amukamara.

Jones simply doesn’t make sense. Amukamara is a better player, a more talented player, a player with fewer questions, and a player that actually addresses a need.

Dream Texans Draft:
1. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
2. Sam Acho, OLB, Texas
3. Sione Fua, NT, Stanford
4. Tyler Sash, S, Iowa
5. Chykie Brown, CB, Texas
6. Jerrod Johnson, QB, Texas A&M
7. Chas Henry, P, Florida

by krkenney on Apr 5, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Trade Down

Rules of this mock draft be damned.

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Apr 5, 2011 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I think there are 5 or 6 very good players to choose from that would help this Texans team

Then there are some very good players that we aren’t even considering, because we are locked into the mentality of these mock drafts that position players and label them as reaches if they aren’t picked within that designated range. I just hope the coaches and scouts for the Texans can see through all that BS in real life. For the purposes of this mock, there are some guys in the Texans range that will all be productive players at the NFL level and would fit the Texans somewhere….

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by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Iiiiinteresting

The Amukamara crowd has been heard.

I still lean Jones, but I wouldn’t be upset with either of them at #11.

by riversmccown on Apr 5, 2011 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

me too prince crowd is catching up

so why we at it.

Now this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute just sit right there
And tell you how I became the prince of a town called Houston

by southpaw70 on Apr 5, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what would be awesome?

A saavy GM who could turn around to Minnesota….offer a package for 12 and walk out with both of them.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Apr 5, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will Minnesota be offering another pick again at 13?

Didn’t think so. Only Beliechick and Morey know how to pull off such moves.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok disregard

I get what you meant, a package that doesn’t include our 1st rounder, eh? But for luxury receiver prospects, destined for the slot in 2011, I still do not like.

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tied ball game,

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 5, 2011 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's Party like it's 1999!

As I said in yesterday’s thread… Although both players are closely rated in the various talent boards on the internets, our need in the secondary is much greater. While I’m glad that we have finally been cleansed of the Eugene Wilson affliction, we now have holes in the roster to fill (not just upgrade) in the secondary. While I agree that Jacoby Jones has been a disappointment, at least he and Walters are serviceable and the offense is working fine. Prince would give us another body in the secondary while taking a top 15 rated prospect to fill a need. BPA meets Need and they lived happily ever after;)

TLDR: Prince and Julio grade closely as prospects, but Prince fills a much bigger need.

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

and if Prince were gone...

I would probably be advocating for JJ Watt or Cameron Jordan in this situation. And I’m biased towards offensive picks and especially WRs usually, but I’m not sold on Julio Jones just because he ran a fast 40 on a broken foot. Maybe Al Davis will trade up with us?

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Raiders don't have a first round pick

Patriots have theirs

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Apr 5, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a joke

See Al Davis has this thing for players who run fast 40s.

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 6, 2011 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Besides...

who says you have to have a 1st round pick to trade up?

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 6, 2011 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think any team in the top 15 picks would trade out of the first round completely

No matter how many picks you give them, especially when players can’t currently be traded

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Apr 6, 2011 5:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows

but my point was that not having a first round pick wouldn’t preclude Al Davis for making a deal to get one… that and it was a joke. HA HA

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 6, 2011 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

re: Jacoby

He’s made mistakes, sure.

Going back into thie list of great receivers [from the Shanny/Koobs era in Denver] that I posted in the other thread (ie: Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey, Shannon Sharpe, and Brandon Marshall) it’s interesting to see how productive they were during their first few pro seasons. Very little production for each.

In partcular, Rod Smith’s career was very interesting to follow as a fan. In his first five or so years, he drove us fans crazy, and probably couldn’t even catch a cold. In a bit of history lesson for us, the “drops” stat started becoming all the rage after Mike Shanahan openly told the press he kept his own personal stats for his players’ drops (certainly to gauge the progression of someone like Rod Smith).

Anyhoo, starting in 1998 (the second Broncos Championship season), Smith finally began to display some of the best hands around, and that continued throughout the rest of his career.

Jacoby is typically lamented by us for his dropped passes, and rightfully so. The onus needs to be on his technique/focus, first and foremost, but it is gradually something that will improve under this staff, and with more opportunities.

In fact, he looked to be more consistent than usual, during the last few games in 2010. Probably didn’t hurt that he was playing every down by that point…

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great post (and point)

I have this love/hate thing with Jacoby and I wanna love him more, so thanks for that reply. You make a lot of sense.

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please tell me this is a joke

I thought our offense was tops in the league and our pass defense was AWFUL!!!!!!!! Come on guys.

by dwalthall12 on Apr 5, 2011 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't believe it's this close

and I hope it’s not the only factor in the BRB fake FO’s final decision…

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 5, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

all this comes down to

is which side offers more Zima, plus has a larger number of voting partcicpants that enjoy puppet shows

some formula therein…

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you breakin' out your sock?

Little CB?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to confess

I created 34 aliases and voted for Prince with each one….

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

just kidding

Don’t do that kids!

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Apr 5, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tried with mine.

But they pre-empted my strike. Kudos.

Then again, how many more of us have some, that they wouldn’t know about?

What was that about a BRB Mock Conspiracy?

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say Julio

If the Texans are actually going to pursue Jonathan Joseph. A vet corner will make the defense better much faster than a rookie CB. I’d hate to miss out on a WR of Julio’s caliber at 11. The vote is really tight though.

by Ethan Matz on Apr 5, 2011 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

booo!

How would ‘pusuing’ a veteran CB be any motive, here?

by Cut Block on Apr 5, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy Theory

Am I the only one that believes all of our outcast Colts fans are voting for us to have another starting rookie CB?

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Apr 5, 2011 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think it's a theory

they’re stuffing the ballots for Prince

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Apr 5, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually purposely refrained from voting.

Jordann did plead for us to vote for Julio though.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I haz a sad.

by Cassieper on Apr 6, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

But you didn't, you bastard!

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Apr 6, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct, sir!

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: I haz a sad.

by Cassieper on Apr 6, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize Chicago was in the south

If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?

by Shake on Apr 6, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

We use dead guys votes in south Texas!

My name is Barry - I am from Texas

by Barryfromtexas on Apr 6, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who's Ballot?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Apr 6, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's one of Jordann's nicknames for BFD

"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair

by papabear on Apr 7, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Because he ran a fast 40 with a broken foot? Prince is actually considered the better prospect by most analysts and fills a bigger need.

"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." Stephen Colbert

by Deepstillbluewaters on Apr 6, 2011 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

So does the voting determine the pick alone or is it only one factor?

I really expect that with only about a 10 vote difference, our BRB FO would select Jones.

by WhiskeyR on Apr 6, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I will be shocked if our "real" FO

Goes with either player.

I am expecting to be “surprised” by a pick we could never have guessed. Then I will be "well, I guess he is OK, though I never heard of Tyler Graves from Troy.

My name is Barry - I am from Texas

by Barryfromtexas on Apr 6, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

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