Top 10 Texans Draft Busts - #8: Anthony Hill
by bigfatdrunk on Apr 6, 2011 2:00 PM CDT
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Why? For crikey's sake, why did we feel the need to draft Anthony Hill in the 4th round in 2009? Of course, there are no guarantees in the 4th round, but in the 5th round, we drafted a superior prospect, and actual contributor, in TE James Casey. Did I mention we already had a healthy Owen Daniels and Joel Dreessen on the team before these two picks? No? Jump with me to beat some dead horses.
Some picks just, by definition, lack common sense. Hill was picked because the team struggled at the goal line in 2008. The assumption, then, would be that a freaking blocking tight end would be the answer to that particular problem. For a team like the Texans, taking such a myopic specialist was asinine, one compounded just a few picks later when Casey was drafted.
This creates a wee bit roster construction problem. Do you carry four TEs, one that is a blocking specialist? Or do you carry ANYTHING FREAKING ELSE THAN A DAMN 4TH TIGHT END. Breathe, bfd, breathe. OK, I'm better.
Obviously, the drafting TE thing has become even more fun as we drafted Garrett Graham and Dorin Dickerson last year (Dickerson, at least, makes more sense at WR). To date, Hill has the same number of penalties against as he does receptions, ACL reconstructions, and cases of swine flu: One.
I know it might seem unfair to pick on a 4th rounder, but everything about this pick, from the alleged "logic" behind it to the performance to the multitude of TE jokes it's spawned makes this an easy target for me.
Next three picks after Hill: Rich Ohrenberger, New England Patriots; Louis Murphy, Oakland Raiders; Lawrence Sidbury, Atlanta Falcons.
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I Blame Rick smith for drafting him
More than I blame anthony " already over the " hill
by AllenOU on Apr 6, 2011 2:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
To be fair Hill was productive as a receiver as a sophomore before missing his junior year with injuries
So there was hope that he could be more than just a blocking TE…although he was clearly taken to fill Bruenner’s role of blocking TE.
I have to agree with AllenOU though….this is more of a bad pick than a bust. He did look really good on that one reception though.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
I agree with y'all it was on Smith
The other guy I was considering was Charles Hill, a 3rd rounder, but at least HE played. The Hill thing killed me dead when it happened, though.
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I don't think it was a bad pick. . .
Just bad luck. Blocking tight ends are very important in zone blocking schemes. They have to be able to handle DE one on one because they are usually not going to be getting double team help from the tackles. In 09 it really showed that our tight ends couldn’t set the edge and that’s’ one of the reason’s why we couldn’t get outside even with a fast RB and a top notch FB. Arian Foster is a better cut back and between the tackles runner which has helped nullify that situation, but we really could still use better blocking from our TE’s. Dreeson was decent, but OD and Casey give up at least 50 lbs to most DE’s. Unfortunately, Hill has laked the most important ability a football player needs. . .AVAILABILITY!!
Like my old coach used to say, “You can’t make the club from the tub.” He still has more portential than Graham to make the team next year. . .IF he’s healthy (that’s a big if). He is 6’6" 265 after all and plays Special Teams.
by Drill Sarge on Apr 7, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What does it say about us
when we hated this pick because we had enough tight ends, but loved the Casey pick in the next round?
"Each day is better than the next" ~ Dom "Woogie" Woganowski
by LoneSpot on Apr 6, 2011 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
haha good point
I think after we heard about casey, and the hometown thing, we just wanted him. Ive had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times, and there isnt a more sincere and genuinely nice guy in the NFL from my experiences in the real estate portion.
Time to cue southpaw's racism take?
"Each day is better than the next" ~ Dom "Woogie" Woganowski
by LoneSpot on Apr 6, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
GGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
//runs away screaming///
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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 6, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
that is such a racist thing to do
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
by papabear on Apr 6, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I've seen your stats.
There’s no way you’re running away anywhere, screaming or otherwise.
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by UprootedTexan on Apr 6, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
One you don't know
Seven knee surgeries.
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Well then
Maybe you should fucking pay the loan shark next time…
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Apr 6, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Learn from Shake
He stopped taking out loans after the first time.
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Damn right
Now I just use credit cards and bank loans, since the gov’t will pick up the tab if I default on all of them.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
I don't believe Anthony Hill even exists
so I reccomend this choice as a Top 10 bust
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The sad thing is
Louis Murphy would have been a nice upgrade over Jacoby Jones
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
Not that I'm aware of
But it does raise some questions. Just ask former Viagra spokesperson Rafael Palmeiro
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Apr 6, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It raises a couple of things.
//BOING!//
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I'm still waiting on a legitimate reason as to why he's still on the roster
"Lord, beer me strength."
he gives one HELL of a
post game footrub
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by theSpaceCityKid on Apr 6, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Those chalk lines aren't going to draw themselves!
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by UprootedTexan on Apr 6, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd for swine flu reference.
Oh, Hill… He set the bar high. Molden could learn a thing or two from him; not making it onto the field is one thing. But bringing an epidemic into the locker-room? Now that’s something special.
Can a 4th rounder really be a bust?
I guess, but by then it is usually a crap-shoot
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
kinda!
I realize it is kind of a cheap shot, but it’s also the sum of it’s sucky parts: flawed logic, silly strategy, a player who has barely seen the field. Put it all together, and it’s a nearly perfect storm of suck.
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by bigfatdrunk on Apr 6, 2011 8:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess I just don't follow the logic in this series...
A fourth round pick at an already deep position is a bigger bust than the #1 overall pick of a QB that we’re all trying our damnedest to forget?
I suppose the argument could be made that Carr contributed more, since he started for us several years, but I can’t imagine that’s what you mean.
Maybe these aren’t in order? I mean… we’ve made 9 picks that are bigger busts than David Carr?
It's all just opinion, right?
I mean, one could easily have Carr ranked higher, but I don’t believe he was a bust as much as team leadership failed him. Would he have sucked regardless? Probably. But, he did take almost every snap for several years, and that says something to me.
As I mentioned above, picking on Hill is somewhat unfair, but I see more problems with how he’s turned out than Carr. Just my opinion.
In my opinion, also, the difference between #s 10-6 and 5-1 is striking, as we’ll soon see!
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I'll be curious to see...
Based on Hill’s inability to make it onto the field, is Molden going to make the list? Don’t tell me! I’ll await with anticipation.
Yup.
I can’t wait to see where Travis Johnson comes in on this…
There’s a lot of different criteria that could be applied to all this. I’m guessing yours is a mixture of stupid draft pick, lack of health/contributions and the overall effect on the team. Some of that could be the draftees fault, some of it could be the Texans fault. I don’t take issue with any of it, but for me the players we had high expectations for are the biggest letdowns.
Okay, I get it now
This is a paid advertisement by Bud Light….this top ten draft busts thingy. Bfd drew the short straw and now he’s the one that has to come up with ten names. Okay. Bfd, sorry for directing criticism at you. I understand what’s going on now….yep.
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Constructive criticism is always welcome
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4th round bfd
So, what’s the criteria for bust for a 4th rounder? Hasn’t played much. Has been injured a lot. Has other players on the team that play the same position. Hmmmm, I’m thinking there’s a lot of busts in the NFL. I’m also thinking you’re digging deep if you are placing him 8th on the list for all-time Texans busts. But, it’s your list…. I’m just a poster.
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Hill is easily the lowest pick
As I said to WhiskeyR, it was just an almost perfect storm of suck to me. To be sure, and in Hill’s favor, it’s definitely a mean-spirited move on my part.
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Definitely a waste
We really don’t know how the guy plays. He’s never really seen the field. Injuries are part of the game, so can’t defend him on that. But, being a 4th rounder, there are always questions coming in if the guy will be anything in the NFL, healthy or not. But, yes, wasted pick for all the same reasons that bfd is touting him as a bust. I just think expectations have to be a big part of the criteria of defining a bust. Maybe someone had big expectations of Hill, but I won’t include myself as one of them. In fact, my expectation never got off the ground at all for Hill, because he was immediately injured coming in.
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Not buying this.
Sorry BFD. He’s a fourth rounder. He didn’t produce anything so there’s no way that David Carr is worse.
I am disappoint.
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-Catch 22-
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