Why The Texans Must Make A Serious Run At Nnamdi Asomugha
(I want to preface this by saying that it is my personal belief that the NFL Lockout will eventually wind up taking so much time that the league will have no choice but to use last year's lack of Collective Bargaining Agreement rules when it comes to matters of service time and free agency. In this scenario Johnathan Joseph is not an option, nor is Eric Weddle.)
The Houston Texans have begun to cure themselves of misguided notions. In baby steps, yes, but a step is a step. Wade Phillips may have once coached for the Broncos, but as he did not fluff Gary Kubiak's pillows in Denver, I'll consider him a qualified outsider for the purposes of this exercise. That was a reasonable first step. I didn't necessarily agree with some of the Texans draft picks, but they have made a concerted effort to improve the defense and have added three players who can reasonably be expected to contribute right away in some role. This is a good start.
Let's put aside the fact that Phillips seems to be perfectly content with Shaun Cody and Earl Mitchell at the nose tackle, which seems akin to being perfectly content with Hot Pockets because they are technically edible. Phillips has set up the gambit which will move Glover Quin to free safety with the addition of a new free agent cornerback. Indeed, while cornerback was technically addressed in the draft with the addition of Miami's Brandon Harris, the obvious weak point to any casual observer is that the Texans desperately need a top-tier cornerback to be what Dunta Robinson was before he was hurt.
But the real reason the Texans must sign Nnamdi Asomugha isn't specifically his pure talent. It's about the psychology of signing him. It's about actually wanting to be the best.
Bob McNair is not a foolish owner. His franchise is one of the most valuable in the world, and his business acumen cannot be doubted. But for years he has anchored the Texans to a gameplan that just doesn't enable them to fully succeed. Building from within, that's the strategic choice, and Houston has been content to be players on the fringe areas of the free agent market. Signing players like Ahman Green, Jacques Reeves, Antonio Smith, and Todd Wade has been the furthest that the Texans have been willing to go.
But, coupled with the massive talent gap that was brought about by poor drafting over the years, the Texans have wasted just as much money as any other team. David Carr alone was a waste of tens of millions of dollars, and he is hardly the only bust the Texans have selected. For all the impressive offensive talent these current Texans have right now, the only young players they have on that side of the ball are Arian Foster (running backs are one of the most attrition-riddled positions in the NFL, by the way) and Duane Brown. This is a win-now offense that needs win-now support on defense so that the team can finally reach the upper echelon.
Still, the murmurings continue to be that the Texans won't set the market. That Ike Taylor or Carlos Rogers are more "realistic" options. Well of course they are. There's a reason players like Taylor and Rogers are allowed to hit the market without an extension: they just simply aren't that good. Oh sure, you might find a good season or two out of them. But they aren't going to be actual difference makers; your goal in signing them is to just be "solid."
McNair needs to strive for something more than solid. The Texans have done solid. It hasn't been enough of a boost. If the Texans get a solid corner, move Glover Quin to safety, and fill the other safety spot with solid as well, they'll be an interesting team. That's all. Maybe they'll win 10 games. Maybe they'll win eight. Maybe they'll catch fire in the playoffs and surprise some teams, maybe they'll hit the worst case scenario and be back at six wins again. You know what they won't be, either way? A legitimate perennial Super Bowl contender. Strive for solid, and you'll get solid. Strive for greatness, and you might just be surprised by how far you get.
The Texans have had the serendipity to watch one of the league's very few shutdown cornerbacks become an available commodity. Asomugha has no character issues. The only flaw you could really come up with for him is that he's getting older, as he'll be 30 before the season starts. He is a premium player at the position the Texans most need a premium player. He would rectify years of middling results on stop-gap attempts and future stop-gap attempts after a player like Taylor or Rogers wore out their welcome.
Most importantly though, he would change the culture of the Houston Texans, an organization that is always developing its talent rather than winning. There aren't many better ways to show your commitment to winning then by bringing in an All-Pro to solidify your weakest position. He would bring habits and knowledge that would rub off on the young Texans secondary. That goes double for fixing their off-the-field image, where Texans fans have suffered through enough heartbreak over the past few years to send the Clorox heirs on a three-month backpacking tour through Europe. Signing Asomugha would provide instant credibility to a jaded fanbase that doesn't understand why Gary Kubiak is still around, is ready to lob out the phrase "same old Texans" the minute they fall behind in a game, and in some cases, wants to see the long-form version of Matt Schaub's birth certificate to make sure he can rightfully be the Texans QB over Vince Young.
I'm not saying the Texans will win Asomugha's services if they go after him. It may just be that after years stuck in Oakland, he's ready to play for a sure-fire contender rather than a team that could be one with him on board. But given their relative standing in the success cycle, the win-now nature of their offense, and the disappointments of the last few years, if they aren't the team with the highest bid on Asomugha, then I think it's fair to question if this franchise really wants to win. If Nnamdi turns down McNair's millions, then so be it, but not making a serious run at him would be a mistake.
One last thought: Five offseasons ago, an All-Pro Oakland Raiders cornerback was a soon-to-be-30-year-old free agent looking for a new home. Despite being big on developing talent, an organization decided to take a chance on him. While it didn't pay immediate dividends, the Green Bay Packers would have one of the best teams in the NFL in 2007, and would come within an overtime interception of going to the Super Bowl. Eventually, the team reconciled its youth and, with the help of their no longer dominant but still very solid veteran cornerback, won the Super Bowl.
Meanwhile, Jacques Reeves is not employed in the NFL as of the writing of this post. Nothing personal, Jacques. Just saying.
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couldn't disagree more
There is a hard salary cap in the NFL. Salary is a limited resource. You have to maximize what you are getting from your money. Asomugha is going to be extremely over-valued when he hits the market. The way to build a contender for multiple years isn’t by buying over-priced assets. Its by taking advantage of market inefficiencies to get pieces that add to the team at a fair or under-valued price. Texans don’t need Asomugha. They need a starting caliber CB and safety. Why overpay for something we don’t need?
This is all a moot discussion anyway because, as you mention, Asomugha has a choice. Asomugha would be smart to sign on with a team that gets more national attention like the Pats, Eagles, Giants, Skins, Cowboys, etc.
I agree.
Also what is the knock on Ike Taylor? he gave up 2 TD’s all of last season. He would be and immediate upgrade at the position with actual playoff experience (Nnamdi doesn’t have that) and we would still have money to fill the other hole at safety and maybe sign another WR since there are some good ones available.
We should offer Nnamdi a contract and I’m sure we will but if we could sign two good secondary players instead of one I’d be all for that. And I’ve said before I find it unlikely that Nnamdi would come to the Texans because as mentioned we don’t haver the success a team like the Eagles or Cowboys have.
Also nothing wrong with having solid payers across the board.It’s better than having a great player in one position and a bunch of average/below average players every where else. From my time watching the Texans we’ve had a solid defense maybe once in franchise history.
I also disagree with the premise that with solid defenders the Texans would only win about 10 games. Look at the recent SB’s that have been won and look at the defenses. The Packers of full of guys most would call “solid” excluding Woodson and Mathews. The Saints defense was “solid”, the Steelers defense is “solid” with two standouts in Polamalu and Harrison. Giants defense was again “solid” in 2007. Even the losing SB teams had solid defenses like the Cardinals and the Colts when they lost. Or the 2007 PATS. My point being you don;t need superstars on defense to win championships and there is nothing wrong with having solid players in as many spots as possible.
In the end it comes done to using a defensive scheme that best uses the talents of whatever you have on defense, not running out and throwing max contracts on FA’s who may or may not work out. I’d rather we gather up as many good, or as you say “solid” players, than put all our hopes in one player and sink or swim with him.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Ike Taylor is HORRIBLE
Stats only show numbers. There are things that you cannot grade via stats. Ike Taylor is no better than Kareem and I wouldn’t sign him to start over any of our current corners
Houston Texans:
1st Round: J.J. Watt (NT)
2nd Round: Ras-I Dowling/Brandon Harris (CB)
3rd Round: Mark Herzlich (ILB)
4th Round: Shiloh Keo (S)
5th Round: Chris Carter (OLB)
6th Round: Alex Henery (P/K)
7th Round: Stephen Burton (WR)
by CCBach on May 12, 2011 12:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like hyperbole as much as the next guy...
But let’s not drag people down to Kareem Jackson’s level. That’s just not fair.
by Nashmeister on May 12, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha
You beat me to it. I was about to write almost the exact same thing. No one should be compared to Kareem Jackson. Not even Kareem Jackson.
by arianbrotherhood on May 12, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not using a hyperbole
Signing Ike Taylor will be like resigning Reeves
Houston Texans:
1st Round: J.J. Watt (NT)
2nd Round: Ras-I Dowling/Brandon Harris (CB)
3rd Round: Mark Herzlich (ILB)
4th Round: Shiloh Keo (S)
5th Round: Chris Carter (OLB)
6th Round: Alex Henery (P/K)
7th Round: Stephen Burton (WR)
by CCBach on May 12, 2011 1:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Based on what?
What are you basing your opinion that Taylor is horrible? He has looked nothing but solid to me and word out of Pittsburgh has always been that they would like to resign him.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
When I've seen him play
He looks out of place, he doesn’t have instincts for Corner. The games I saw him play he looked slow on the read. That’s my knock on him. He just has no instincts and he cannot read quick enough, especially on deep plays and double moves.
Plus Lebeau is like Kubiak in which he likes to coach up the position he played in the NFL. They have talent in the front seven as that’s Lebeau’s philosophy. He wants talent up front and he thinks he can coach up the secondary. Notice how Pittsburg was beaten in each game they lost. And also notice how bad their secondary gets without Troy.
Houston Texans:
1st Round: J.J. Watt (NT)
2nd Round: Ras-I Dowling/Brandon Harris (CB)
3rd Round: Mark Herzlich (ILB)
4th Round: Shiloh Keo (S)
5th Round: Chris Carter (OLB)
6th Round: Alex Henery (P/K)
7th Round: Stephen Burton (WR)
by CCBach on May 12, 2011 2:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This ^^
Taylor even looks slow to me. Addressing the hypothetical way below, I’d prefer to have a monster front seven that can get to the QB and be disruptive. I believe this helps “cover,” so to speak, average coverage CBs and make them look better than they are. If there’s no time for the WRs to separate, they’re at least going to be close. Unless you’re Brice McCain.
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I know LZ isn't very high on Taylor
…and since his dad was a coach there I give a little extra weight to that.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Uhm, no.
The Steelers defense has the best 4 man LB tandem in the league bar none. That’s not “solid” that’s great. To compare the Steelers and Giants SB teams defenses with the Cardinals Colts and Saints with a single adjective and lump them all together is unreasonable.
The first two were loaded with great players. The others? They were more like our 2005 D— a bunch of solid guys but no real standouts— which works a lot better when you have an offense like the 2005 Seahawks or the Kurt Warner/Larry Fitz Cards or the juggernauts of Indy and N’awlins.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd also disagree on the Packers defense having 2 stars and 9 solid guys
Tramon Williams and BJ Raji aren’t some average guys. AJ Hawk is debatable though.
"Lord, beer me strength."
BJ is a BEAST.
Agreed there too, but I think Green Bay fits more the other mold, primarily due to the other teams being offensive first.
Regardless, it was a poor overall analogy.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell are we saving Salary Cap space for anyways?
A rainy day? Dooms Day?
Seriously. This team has never sniffed salary cap hell. We’ve been “smart” with the cap. What has that gotten us? Fuck it, make Asomugha an offer that will make him the highest paid corner. Smithiak should be in win now mode. Smith shouldn’t be concerned with Cap space two years from now, because he may not be here to worry about it.
- tyler
The idea that we have never been in salary cap trouble is wrong
We’ve never had to make drastic cuts to star players to make cap room, but we have had many years where we right up against the cap with a bunch of dead money sitting on the books limiting what we could do..
Nothing scares me more than Asomugha turning us down to take a comparable offer elsewhere, only to have Rick Smith get nervous/desperate and give someone like Ike Taylor type a HUGE contract because he is win now mode. I’m fine with Taylor at a reasonable price. I also expect that you will always have to overpay a little for a decent FA. I just don’t want to see anything ridiculous on an average player that cripples this franchise for years to come.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I agree they should make a run, but it's not a big deal if they don't get him
I’m not big on the psychology of moves. Sure, there might be some temporary boost in the atmosphere around the locker room, but a solid game plan and good players win games. Not atmosphere. That winning edge comes from winning, plain and simple. All of that “team striving to be the best” attitude stuff doesn’t work if you’re team is not good enough and is still losing.
I would love to have alphabet on the team. He instantly makes us better, and he makes us better at a position of weakness. We would still have holes at other positions though and without knowing the cap situation it’s hard to sit here and say, especially from the outside, how much is too much. I do think it’s time for the Texans to be more aggressive in free agency, but that doesn’t mean it’s time to bet the farm on bringing in one marquee player. I would much rather spend resources on a solid vet safety, a solid vet CB, and reliable depth at OT and LB. I know you don’t think solid is enough Rivers, but I disagree. Solid isn’t enough when you have multiple gaping holes at other positions. I’m not sure great CB can overcome those gaping holes either.
On a somewhat related note, I assume that their will be a reduction in the cap under a new CBA. If that’s the case, the question is if these marquee free agents will be willing to accept a similar reduction in their next contract. Could make for contentious negotiations in free agency.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on May 12, 2011 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Excellent Read
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll get back to the sobering reality that Ike Taylor and Kareem Jackson will be the starting corners for the 2011 Houston Texans.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
I for one would welcome Ike Taylor
Dude is a solid cornerback. I would be happy with that consolation price. Personally I think the Steelers will resign him.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Plagiarizing myself
He’s simply not a good cover corner and he’s aging quickly. PFF ranks Ike Taylor thusly in coverage:
2008: 34
2009: 100
2010: 60
He excels against the run, and we already have on of those in Quin. And, oh yeah, he’s turning 31.
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by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
not to mention
He played behind mabye the best front 7 in football with mabye the best strong saftey in football behind him.
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Asomugha is turning 30, so what's the difference as far as age is concerned?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a combination
Ike Taylor is worse AND older.
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
So we're in agreement
Carlos Rodgers is the compromise??
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
and kinda slow frankly. In fact...
I hope Kjax eventually devlops into an ike Taylor type
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Scrabble's ratings
2008: 3
2009: 23
2010: 4
So, if you’re talking about a purely performance regression standpoint, Scrabble has a way to fall to become even “average.” Taylor is not even average, being already below average at best. In 3 to 4 years, when Nnamdi is average or slightly above (depending on how he ages), Taylor won’t be anywhere near starter quality. Hell, I don’t think he’s starter quality today, and I’m not sure he’s any sort of upgrade over what we have now.
Carlos Rogers:
2008: 13
2009: 67
2010: 75
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by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can I get some PFF rankings on Bryant McFadden?
From 2008 – 2010 should be a pretty fair indication of how much the Pitt front seven improve a DB’s rankings.
PFF is the same site that ranked AJ the 18th best WR or some shit a couple years ago
amirite? Ya I’ll take their nerd formula with a grain of salt.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
They still need to correct some values in their formulas
They took off points for drops.
"Lord, beer me strength."
ya
get back to me when they add points for smashing 3 Cardinal DBs on your way to the end zone.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Or Innegan's Face
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, good times... good times...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
If you're expecting them to be the end all be all then you will always be dissapointed
They provide a quick snapshot in this case and have to be looked at in a deeper context to get the most out of them. For a quick reference on a player you haven’t seen much it’s not a bad place to start.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I'm not
but alot of people use PFF like it is written in stone when its based on fallible numbers. Plus I’m still bitter they started charging for that site.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Oh I agree
People that use it like it is the gospel are just as wrong as people who dismiss it completely though.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Since I'm the one who probably uses it the most...
Have I ever, once, claimed PFF was the final word? Can you find an example of that, please?
Otherwise, it largely appears that, if PFF doesn’t agree with your opinion, it’s the one that must be wrong.
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I wasn't speaking of you in particular
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
It's nice in context.
For instance: Kareem Jackson looked awful on the field last year, and as a team we boasted one of the worst pass defenses in football (despite a middle-of-the-pack defensive line). His awful PFF ratings, then, are hard to dispute. On the other hand, you take a guy like Ike Taylor who doesn’t appear atrocious every time he steps onto the field, and has been a part of a top-five defense for the better part of a decade… Well, perhaps he’s just a little bit better than his ratings indicate.
Is that horrible though?
absolutely not, especially with the pass rush resources I believe this team will have next season. All that matters is that “solid” is a MAJOR upgrade to what we had last year. You put solid players (see: NOT Brice McCain, NOT Eugene Wilson, NOT Dominique Barber and NOT KJax of last season) with good to great coaching on the field last year and we would have been a real contender IMO.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Bravo, sir
A move like this, signing a big name, is what this franchise’s fan base needs. This is the kind of move that would electrify the fan base which has been growing increasingly impatient and jaded. I hope someone’s putting this same idea in Bob & Rick’s ears.
I’m not dollars-and-cents guy, but a multi-year deal worth about $12-15MM per season seems (situationally) reasonable. I hope I hear an offer like that when free agency gets started.
"Lord, beer me strength."
what if that contract ties our hands when we need to resign other guys like Mario
with a new cap? Wouldnt you rather have 2 “solid” players to add to this teams secondary, one at each line of defense maybe, and trust Wade’s scheme and what I think will be a dynamic pass rush to do what Frank Bushs bullshit couldnt last year?
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Solid is nice
but I think the team needs a top guy back there and has for years.
It would be nice to take away the Reggie Waynes of the world. It would be great to know that the safeties didn’t even have to worry about helping Nnamdi out so they could protect our young CBs. It would be incredible to know that someone, who knew what they were doing, was able to help mentor these youngsters.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on May 12, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
making moves based on the fans psychological well being is a bad idea
Make it because it will make you a winning team, not because it will get you some run on ESPN and provide a temporarily (if the wins don’t follow) electrified fan base.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
When has this FO done anything that was a real fan pleaser?
its like hoping we sign Blaine Sumner as UDFA. Ya im lookin at you NightOwl, isnt there a small part of you that knows that it wont happen bc we want it to?
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Keeping Andre Johnson here makes me happy, though.
Everybody won in that one.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 12, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Part of me thinks Sumner is going straight to the UFL or Arena Football
Did I also mention how much I wanted Herzlich as well? Anyways Asomugha is not realistic cause we won’t tie up that much money on a CB when we have to resign Mario next offseason. I can settle with Ike Taylor cause he’ll be able to teach up the young CBs we do have at a much cheaper price
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with the caution
But I do think you’re being too dismissive of making impact moves and their effects beyond the field. I think having the (arguably) best CB in the league anchoring an otherwise 1st Grade class of players would have a huge impact. I’d be excited to see McNair splash out some money on a difference maker, and I legimiately believe we’re in “win-now” mode with the offense.
I’m not saying it’s a cure-all, and I agree that you have to be smart as well as agressive. But I think this is the sort of move that could really give the franchise a boost.
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Most times yes
Signing the best cornerback in the league when you need a cornerback is not a bad idea at all.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Okay, you asked for it
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with that at all
I would LOVE to have him on this team. I’m just saying that fan perception shouldn’t be a factor. If it helps in that department then it’s just gravy. Fans are dumb (and I include myself in that).
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on May 12, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This exchange was entirely too civil
I think you’re stupid and smelly. Also, you’re a curse at the Rob.
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought it was broken
I was there for the birth of the dancing bear and his hat trick so I thought it was safe
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
They ruined EVERYTHING!
The biggest problem is that we were all entirely too sober.
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
that's on you and Shake then
I can be called a lot of things, but sober was not one of them that night
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Next season
We should get season tix in the same area. Winning.
(Yeah Tim, I’m talking soccer on your blog whatchu gonna do bout it?!)
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm on the waiting list for next season
Almost pulled the trigger this year, but Texans, Lamar, and deer lease all came due at the same time.
We should definitely try and coordinate. I’m always searching for people to go to Dynamo games with.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I've got tix this year
So I can always see if I can increase my ticket load and just divide it up that way. I’ll hit you up via email
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Why shouldn't fan perception be a factor?
It’s a business- Nnamdi will sell tickets. But McNair doesn’t need him to sell tickets, because we’re dumb enough to buy them and hope for the best anyway.
Needs more nose tackle.
because that is only a short term strategy that will backfire on you later if it doesn't work
Any move that helps the team in the long term to be a consistent winner will do wonders for fan perception. A short term buzz about the signing shouldn’t be part of the decision process. If fan perception were a smart move we would have drafted Reggie Bush or Vince Young.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Because fans are idiots
and don’t know anything about economics or strategy.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Is it if it means you can't afford Mario next year
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Where is this either implied or suggested?
And besides, everyone seems to think we’re trading or not resigning Mario judging by the draft threads.
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the idea that we are planning to trade Mario is idiotic
He might not want to come back if he’s not happy with the direction of the team after this year, but I don’t think there is any chance that management has any plans to get rid of him.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
We just paid Andre, OD, & Demeco
Antonio Smith ain’t making chump change either. Foster & Leach are looking for pay raises. If we pay Asomugha the kind of money he wants, where’s the money for Mario coming from???
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
We know nothing about the new CBA
And thus nothing about any new salary caps or wage restrictions. We’re making assumptions and wild speculations.
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
But we do have an idea on Bob McNair's spending habits, don't we?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I submit that Bob McNair has not been cheap...
He’s just had some really stupid people wasting a lot of money on bad “talent”… See: Carr, David; Johnson,Travis;…
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Sure we do...
He paid, then cut bait on, Carr because Kubes jumped the gun a bit on who/what he was.
He let Cunta walk because he was an overrated, overpriced cocksmoke.
He’s willing to pay players like Jaques, Antonio, and Wade to make the team better at positions of need.
That’s what we know. Everyone loves to speculate about all kinds of bullshit, but unless you work in the office with Bob and Rick you don’t know shit about what goes on or what offers have or have not been made. Free agency is a two way street, and players need to want to play for the team/city.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on May 12, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Cocksmoke.
Wow. Can I borrow that? I see some great practical application in dialogue.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
It's yours, good sir.
Use is wisely. Or all willy nilly… either way.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Uh, yeah, WC beat me to it, but I'd also like to license the rights to "cocksmoke"...
Here is a one-rec downpayment. Thanks.
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
I actually rank "cocksmoke" right up there with "douchenozzle" for eloquence...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
I agree
The multiple implications are amazing
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I like fuckface
It’s simple and bold
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Yeah, but breaking out the f-word just seems kinda' lazy...
Kinda’ like resorting to a tight-end reference, a Denver-East joke, “Duck Funta!” or some kind of a Colorado-State connection wheeze…
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
What can I say
I’m a sucker for the classics. The F word is by far my favorite word in the English language. Subtle? Refined? Not at all, but effective.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I like "Suck a bag of dicks" myself...
but that’s not quite the same, being more an insulting command as opposed to an adjective.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eat a dick is a classic really,but I like a bag of dicks..I’m ripping a page out of your book hydro..
1017
by TexanZ 1017 on May 12, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
It's actually a Louis CK quote...
The “suck a bag of dicks” bit. Worth a watch, enjoy.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 13, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah and I'm not arguing the effectiveness...
…properly applied, it’s pretty powerful.
I’m just continually impressed with the number of extremely colorful and conversationally DEVASTATING slams that are either dreamed up here or that I have managed to miss to this point.
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
one of my favorite audio clips of all time:
http://www.maniacworld.com/f-81.htm
**Warning: Audio NSFW
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on May 12, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, unfortunately...
…that is one of my ex-boss’s favorite phrases…
Don’t miss hearing that one…
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Cock gobbling douchenozzle
Always a winner.
Blind fandom is all I got left. That and this bottle of Clorox. And this Drano. And this lamp. And this paddle ball game.
Not to mention the multiple applications...
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
What about Duane Brown?
He should be needing a new contract in the next couple of years too…or did we already extend him?
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
If there continues to be no cap then it isn't an issue
If, as Rivers suggests, there is no cap then you front load the contract. There are a lot of ways to get around the cap.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I'll take Nnamdi over Mario
Needs more nose tackle.
Insane.
Mario is younger and a physica mutant. Coverage skills drop off faster than pass-rushing ability.
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
yea i have to disagree too
mario is younger and if he ends up just being a pass rusher later on in life, he will be more vaulable still.
I heart mutants
And I love Mario- but I’d take Nnamdi. I genuinely believe our secondary is that awful- even relative to our simply not very good pass rush. Of course, I personally believe they aren’t going to resign Mario anyway, so that plays into it. Otherwise, your point about their relative age is well taken.
Needs more nose tackle.
No they will resign Mario
Do you have any idea how uproarious the fanbase will be if we let our number one pick go?
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
You say that like we have an impact
Needs more nose tackle.
They will try to resign Mario
I can’t for the life of me figure out why people seem to think that he isn’t part of the Texans long term plans.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Because they're cheap.
And Mario is going to want and deserve Peppers money.
Needs more nose tackle.
How exactly are they cheap again?
They refused to overpay for Dunta. OK, but that’s not my definition of cheap. They brought in quality guys like Antonio Smith and Wade Smith. They re-did Andre’s contract after one year to keep him happy. They have given big extensions to guys like Eric Winston, Demeco Ryans, and Owen Daniels. You can disagree with their decisions all you want, but calling them cheap just isn’t fair. I don’t agree with all the moves they did or didn’t make, but McNair has never shown that he’s not willing to spend money if they think it’s right for the team.
Cheap is the owners in Cincinatti who refuse to spend a couple of million to build an indoor practice facility, or the teams who slash payroll once the salary floor was removed (The Texans didn’t).
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on May 12, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Well said
The cheap argument has never made sense.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Dunta is a red herring
Of suck. Wade Smith and Antonio Smith are not marquee free agent players. “Cheap” is relative. We’re not talking about the difference between spending money on a kitchen in a new house or deciding not to put one in, we’re talking about whether to spring for granite countertops or stick with corian or formica (my wife would be so proud all the remodel talk has sunk in). McNair is the kind of person who looks around discovers that formica will do just fine. He’ll spend enough money for decent (Daniels, Winston) and sometimes he’ll luck into a bargain for great (Johnson, and pre-injury Ryans) but he’s never going to walk into the store and ask for travertine first. He’s just not that kind of guy. Would you prefer frugal or practical to cheap? I’m ok with that.
Bob McNair is a man who wanted an NHL franchise and stumbled into an NFL franchise. Good for him- but as someone who moved to town the year the Oilers left, I don’t have any “oh he brought football back” feelings for him. He’s a thoroughly adequate owner. much like the Texans themselves. But he doesn’t have a real edge to be exceptional, or a commitment to it. So maybe cheap isn’t that right word- I don’t think we’re going to resign Mario for the same reason I don’t think we’re going to sign Nnamdi. We’re just not that committed, and when push coms to shove, we’re going to leave Central Market and go shopping at Wal-Mart instead. And you know what? It’s going to be ok when we do. We’ll be in the playoff hunt, we’ll even be competetive. We just won’t be great.
Needs more nose tackle.
They've tried to sign Marquee free agents though
Leigh Bodden and Orlando Pace are two names that come to mind. In both cases we offered more than their team did originally, only to have them take our offer back to their team and have them match it.
I would rather have McNair who tries to responsibly manage the cap than a guy like Dan Synder in Washington who throws money around like crazy. Just because McNair’s team hasn’t always made the best decision doesn’t mean that their philosophy is wrong.
I didn’t even bring up the brought football back to Houston because that is ancient history. I just think the cheap argument in regards to McNair is…well a cheap argument.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Do you work in the FO?
Then your just regurgitating opinions, based on no facts.
Next.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
I'm actually Rick Smith
True story.
Needs more nose tackle.
Nice draft
I’ll give you some credit this time…..those trades were some nice maneuvering.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Thanks.
I’ll be adding some UDFA TEs.
Needs more nose tackle.
Cheap (AND) stupid in Cincy.
Palmer will retire if not traded. Make sure you don’t trade him and get something though…because it’s better to force his retirement than to get something out of him.
Side note— strong rumor in the PNW that Palmer’s wife is from the Seattle area and he ONLY wants a trade to Seattle or he’ll retire. We call it the “Reverse Griffey”— and the rumor is we’re getting him for a 5th and a performance based additional pick.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not a bad deal
Better than what you paid for Charlie.
Needs more nose tackle.
I'm not a Charlie hater like some.
I actually think he’ll be better with this team as we’ve rebuilt it than Hasselbeck, who can’t throw a vertical seam route to save his life. The “new vision” Seahawks will run some odd variation of the WCO, but be a run-first play-action team.
That’s perfect for Charlie vs. Matty.
Also— we realistically only paid a 3rd for him. That’s not too awful much, when you look at how many 3rd rounders actually are significant contributors to their teams after a year or two…
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
We have this debate in Seattle all the time too...
Chicken and Egg— does a great lockdown corner make for a better pass rush, or does a better pass rush make for a better secondary?
I lean toward winning up front and take your chances on the backside. The key is getting league average guys on the backside instead of craptastic filler.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It's an interesting debate
It would help immensely if a statistician could break down the percentage of sacks that occur in under 3 seconds and over 3 seconds as that could help discern the value of the pass rush sack to make CBs look better vs. the coverage sack which inflate the sack numbers.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Seems like Steph had an article where someone had broke down how long the avg sack was by QB
I thought there was supposed to be a follow up, but I could be making it all up in my head.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I know there's a stat somewhere about Jared Allen--
He’s gotten like 90% of his sacks when his team is ahead. It’s pretty comical and shows you how valuable a lead is… I wonder if Mario would have similar numbers.
It also shows you how different Jared Allen’s numbers can be, dependent on team success. Two years ago he was amazing, last year back to earth.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well said.
Reminds me of the Hasselbeck “debate” in Seattle.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Tom Foolery
We need to make a run, but you really shouldn’t waste your breath about whether or not we get him.
Anyone who thinks we are going to out-bid Dallas or Washington for Nmandi put your hand up. Now look around, b/c everyone with your hand up is blinded by homer-dom. Either one of those teams would be enough to make me think we wouldn’t offer the most $ but both… it just isn’t going to happen. Maybe while Dan Snyder tries to see how much money he can spend we can snatch away Carlos Rogers. It’s too bad J Joseph prob won’t be available, because he is a real, young talent that is actually within our reach.
Maybe instead of pontificating on the possibility of us doing something we’ve never successfully done before by making a major free agent aquisition, we should be thinking about undrafted free agents. There is a virtual gold mine of UFAs (at least for position where we need help)… and signing UFAs is something we actually do well (See: Foster, Arian).
Available (impact) UFA in postions of need:
Kendric Burney CB NC
Deunta Williams FS NC
Brandon Blair DE Boise
Ryan Winterswyk DE Boise
Ian williams NT Notre Dame
Anthony Gray NT S Miss
Courtney Smith WR S Alabama
Deandre Brown WR S Miss
Those are just off the top of my head. The Texans getting Nmandi is a pipe dream at best. At worst it’s a dangerous waste of time when we should be focused on adding talented youth.
'You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an @sshole.' - The Dude
You forgot to mention the NY Jets & Green Bay
They’ll be in the Asomugha sweepstakes as well
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
The Jets can't afford Nnamdi with all the contract they've redone and need to redo
Green Bay doesn’t need him.
The 4 suitors, according to many outlets, appear to be Philadelphia, Washington, Dallas, and Houston.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Since when does need always factor into a team's decision making?
What makes you think they don’t want him?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Because they have a damned good cornerback corps as it is
and they pride themselves on developing rookies really well. They can use their money to lock down their multitude of young stars.
"Lord, beer me strength."
You do know that Woodson said he'll move to FS to bring in Asomugha, right?
What GM would turn down that offer??
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
One that realizes his team just won the Super Bowl...
with a lot of their starting talent injured. The same one who just dropped an extension on Tramon Williams and sees that he wants to lockdown Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews to long-term extensions. The same one who continues to spend 1st round picks on offensive linemen and wants to protect his quarterback who has had concussions. The same one who is more in need of some DEs since Jolly wanted to act the fool.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Philly would be his first choice if I had to guess
Philly is well known for letting their vets walk instead of giving a big contract.
I think it’s only Washington if they are the only ones who throw huge money…and even then it’s along shot.
Dallas is probably the safe bet.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I hate to throw a name out there.
Could the saints use nnamdi? i mean they pretty much getting rid of Bush i am sure. I would hate for him to end up there but hey he could. Since we on this what about Falcons? i know they spent alot on dunta but grimes might be gone. Lets face it that got thier asses handed to them.
I could tottally see n.o.
But I would be surprised by atlanta picking him up
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
i think there are about 32 interested in him
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw from Twitter NFL.com
That the list is down to about 25 :)
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
It was a little sarcastic.
But I don’t see many owners or gms saying no if nnamndi asked to play for them.
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Also there's a few UDFAs you didn't mention
Joe Lefeged SS Rutgers
Mark Herzlich OLB/ILB BC
Terrence Tolliver WR LSU
Deandre McDaniel FS/SS Clemson
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you're wrong on that last part
Something tells me Crazy Uncle Al will take a flyer on him & sign him to the Raiders
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say he won't make NFL money
I said he shouldn’t because he’s scum.
"Lord, beer me strength."
This.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 12, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Surely the path to NFL success is paved in UDFA's
Lets just release the whole roster. Lets also pretend like signing Nnamdi would prevent us from accumulating our precious piles of undesired talent to minimum contract deals.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on May 12, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
good call
I am not so much of a Herzlich guy (neat story but I worry about him on the field). Tolliver and Lefeged should be on out list for sure.
McDainel is a character prob. From his wikipedia page: In June 2008, McDaniel was arrested for assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature after an argument with his girlfriend. McDaniel reportedly choked his girlfriend, punched her in the head and chest, and pushed her down a flight of stairs, causing her to seek medical attention for “serious bodily injury”.
'You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an @sshole.' - The Dude
Yeah, his draft stock fell down the stairs with his girlfriend
Although there’s a legitimate argument that he was the best strong safety in this draft. One could hope he’s turned himself around in these past three years, cause I don’t believe he’s had any other bad news since that incident
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 13, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
More youth?
We already have the youngest defense in the NFL by age AGAIN. Adding rookies works if this team is in rebuilding mode but we aren’t.Our offense is playoff ready and the thing holding it back is this defense. We need to sign a couple veteran players, not necessarily Nnamdi, and work with what we have. I don’t see any of those player stepping in day 1 and making a significant enough impact to warrant placing any hopes on them for this upcoming season. Since they are undrafted it would probably be a year before we even got any meaningful contributions from them if we ever did.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Okay, then we sign a bunch of UDFAs then we sign Brett Favre as a 3rd string SS to increase the defense's average age
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Jamie Moyer?
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
He's still alive?
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 12, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
And trying to make a comeback from TJ
At like 50.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Who would have thought anyone could not just make a career as an MLB pitcher throwing at a top speed of 73 miles an hour
But also pitch until only cockroaches and mutated twinkies are the only remaining living forms of life on the planet?
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 12, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm hopeful he can keep going a few more years.
Why not? I’d love to see him make the Hall of Fame on longevity and uniqueness in his era, if nothing else.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Courtney Smith
Saw him at the Senior Bowl, possession reciever, lacks speed. Need someone to stretch the field.
"Kenny your a knucklehead." -Charles Barkley
"If winning isn't everything, then why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi
by Patrick D. Starr on May 12, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He's been linked to the Seahawks, fits Pete Carroll's desire for bigger WR's ala BMW.
(Big Mike Williams)
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You know what gets me...
We gave leigh Bodden a good run last year, i mean if i am not mistaken,it was us and the Pats right? In the end he went back to them, so i say this we will go after Nnamdi and it might once again come down to us and another team, with him moving on to another team. So why we where after him all the other good free agents have already signed somewhere else and we are stuck. Now i hope it does not happen that way but i have a feeling that is. I want to know what people think teams will offer Nnamdi.
Albert Haynesworth money probably
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Not if he can pass the conditioning test
Of course, even Papabear can pass the conditioning test…
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Whoa whoa whoa
Lets not go crazy here….
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
If you think I'm taking any kind of conditioning test that involves anything more than going to get another beer you are out of your damn mind.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on May 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So if the conditioning test has you running 50 yards between two mini fridges full of beer, you'd do it?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Make it 50 inches
And he’ll need oxygen in between.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Free oxygen at the frigdes then
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
But it's still 50 yards
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I can chug a beer
…but there’s nothing wrong with taking the time to really enjoy a good cold beer on nice leisurely 50 yard stroll to the next fridge. (if it’s hot outside I’ll need you guys to set up some fans though).
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Fly me in from Seattle and I'll represent the NFC in this amazing game.
Also… can we add golf clubs to it? I’d even be willing to add distance to the walks between fridges.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
now we're getting into cart territroy
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Hahahah.
Only if the cart actually HAS the fridge on it, right?
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It's starting to look like I am going to dominate the shit out of this test
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on May 12, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
if you were him...
Would you come here over Dallas?
Would you come here over NY Jets?
Would you come here over Washington (if they were offering significantly more $)?
'You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an @sshole.' - The Dude
by EasyT367 on May 12, 2011 9:25 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
HMMMM...
Over Dallas yes who wants to work where you boss is always in your teams bussiness.
Over Jets yes cause when it comes to which corner gets paid more it will become a problem.
Over Skins hell yea do they even have a QB? Do they have a RB? Do they have WR? Money is good but i did that already.
I think that Easy makes a good point... (rec'd)
In order for Houston to get in the conversation with those teams, they’d have to overpay to get his attention. It makes sense to get an upgrade (or 4) for our cornerback woes, but I think that ’Bet would be a basket containing too many eggs…
In other news… has anyone seen Jordann? I saw this mug-shot of a guy in panda makeup and became concerned:

"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on May 12, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also going to those teams.
Who wants to play real comptiteion when all you have to do here is shutdown peyton for us. In the process maybe two rookies starting in our divison will get you some int’s. Why go to Dallas and worry about vick,eli, and whoever plays for skins.
You forget about Green Bay
Why wouldn’t Asomigha want to sign with the Super Bowl champs, where their best CB has said he’ll move to FS to get him there. They don’t exactly have the best QBs in that division. Stafford’s always hurt, but Shaun Hill is an adequate backup QB, Cutler is a headcase prone to throwing INTs, & the Vikings will start either a rookie or a one year QB (Jackson is all but gone). That seems like the best damn choice to me
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
U make a good point.
But in that divison you will line up against Calvin johnson, and Sidney rice. i guess i really have nothing to argue in that case then
Who's throwing to them though
Larry Fitzgerald didn’t look like much when his QBs are garbage, although Detroit’s QBs are far from garbage
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Or a Cardinal
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
McNabb might be the cheaper option there
Plus he already lives there
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Or three
It worked with Kurt Warner, didn’t it?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess if they want to go that route again.
i think they would like to get their QB of the future now, it has been way overdue.
No, next year is the time
Better QB class in the next draft
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
They have 2 possible QB's of the future.
Max Hall and John Skelton. Both are long term developmental guys that would fit with a vet.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember Skelton looking nice in his PT last year
but Max Hall is no bueno
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
For whatever reason, they liked him.
Now he may have gotten scarred for life there, but he may be salvageable with a year or three from a vet while he and Skelton mature on the sidelines.
But whatever. I personally would be happy if they suck forevermore.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
does this dude have pink eye,looks like he had a rough night…
1017
by TexanZ 1017 on May 12, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He ran over someone in his car...
Details in the “mug-shot” link…
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
It's not happening..
This was an excellent read, but I don’t think we should convince ourselves that Scrabble is the only option. I think Bob will make an effort to appease, but I just don’t see it happening.
GO TEXANS!!!!
Our time will come...
It was a good read
I am going to argue that Nnambdi is not a difference maker. Not that much of one anyways. How can I say this? Um – Oakland’s record while he has been there. Last year they were 11th in Defense, year before 26th, year before 27th, year before that 22nd —
He is a shutdown corner – but how much of a difference maker has he really been? I would be giddy and excited to get him, but then again I would be giddy and excited to get “solid” :))
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions
that is what i have been saying too
He really has not done anything. i know teams don’t throw his way and if the rest of the team cannot pickup the slack whats the point of having him. I am pretty sure oakland had a better secondary then we did.
I am not saying their secondary wasn't better
But it is true he has a lot based on reputation more so than production. Realistically – I would rather have an average CB that gets 4-5 picks than a shutdown corner that gets none.
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
everybody chewed my head when i said that before.
someone also said int’s are not that big of a deal. are you crazy that is what corners play for. i am with you barry i bet those 4 or 5 ints could be game changers for our D.
As I said
We should really look at getting 3 “solid” players to round out the defense. Nnamdi won’t fix our defense,he’d be great no doubt, but in order to go from 30th in overall defense to say 13th takes more than one player.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Okay, here's my thought, taking controlled spending into account
Move Quin to SS
Move Jason Allen to FS
Sign CB Carlos Rodgers
Sign UDFA Mark Herzlich as an ILB
Sign UDFA Ian Williams – NT
Sign UDFA Terrence Tolliver – WR
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd be ok with Allen and Quin.
and all the ufds’s if we could get Tolliver id be great. But Carlos Rodgers is beyond overrated
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
So you think we shouldn't sign any CBs at all?
Or we just leave Allen at CB & sign UDFA Deunta Williams – FS?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Signing a cb is now priority 1 at texan's hq IMO
we have to get SOMETHING better than Jackson, But i have high hopes for Brandon Harris to be our cb2 honestly with kj at nickle. And i think a shutdown cb would go along way to making us potent on defense
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm just not in that boat
I think another Safety is a higher need. I’d rather go after Michael Huff. Good to great safety play can make average CBs look good
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd be fine with that route too
I think there are plenty of players we can sign and improve with. Lots of good directions for Houston to go. As long as we dont tottally strike out, i trust Wade enough that if he says Taylor is the guy or Rodgers is the guy, or Huff or Joseph or weddle… then ill buy it.
by Carter Liles on May 12, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
bfd, can you provide any PFF on Rogers?
I keep thinking he’s overrated, but maybe I’m underrating him since people are tossing his name out so often?
"Lord, beer me strength."
75th, 44th, and 35th on their rankings the last three years
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I'm definitely imagining the 75th place Carlos as opposed to the 35th place Carlos.
"Lord, beer me strength."
why does anyone
think Allen is on the roster? I’m pretty sure he was one and done.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
We claimed him before he cleared the waiver wire
so he is playing for us under the terms of his previous contract. He has one year remaining on that deal.
You shouldn't penalize Nnamdi for being surrounded by crap for the majority of his career
That’s like saying “Andre Johnson isn’t a difference maker because the Texans don’t win.”
Nnamdi is one of the few CBs who can go one on one with anyone and take them out of games without safety help. If that’s not a difference maker, especially on this defense, I don’t know what is.
"Lord, beer me strength."
However he did have much better safeties playing deep coverage than we did
Man, how I wish Tyvon Branch was available
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Rebuttals by names.
Bruce Gradkowski, Jason Campbell, JaMarcus Russell, Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, Daunte Culpepper, Josh McCown (love you bro), Aaron Brooks, Kerry Collins.
Al Davis.
(With regards to how much a difference one player can make) Mario Williams.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on May 12, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I was thinking different than you
as to what a difference maker is. There are players that can walk onto a field in a game and change the game. Maybe he can do it – I don’t know – but that is what I think of as difference maker.
Like I said – I would be giddy to get him – he would improve our D, but I would be happy to get solid at this point.
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right
But you know better.
Needs more nose tackle.
But it made me feel good to write
And that’s worth something.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on May 12, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Mean while...
Teams are cutting jobs of regular folks – the season appears to be going down the drain.
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions
Yes, make a legitemate run
No, for the love of Durga do NOT sign him. Yes, we need help at DB, but it’s not at CB (and I’m going against everything football within me to say to not sign him).
The Steelers have no ever had “great” cornerbacks, they have had a hell of a safety in Polamalu. And what have the Texans never had great players at? Safety.
To excel and be great in the NFL you need more than just “solid” safety play. You can survive and be great with just solid cornerback play, however. So yes, for the psychology of the team, the fans, and the NFL, make a damn good run at him, but hope he goes elsewhere. While doing so, spend your freakin money on a true impact safety. GQ could be solid at safety, but he will NOT EVER BE GREAT.
It’s about time for the Texans GM to finally man up and realize he needs one, and to help this team take that next step. If our current CBs were all we had, but we picked up a great safety duo to cover the over top, then we’d be legit. Stop your dreaming Rivers, Nnamdi is not the answer.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
by Fuzion on May 12, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I attribute that to a small sample size.
I think we need to go ten more years of neglecting the safety position before we can legitimately say it’s an important position.
/Ricksmith’d
by Nashmeister on May 12, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Look, safety play is getting more and more important
But to point to the Steelers and say “they don’t have a good cornerback, so we don’t need one either.” is kind of silly. The Jets seem to be doing just fine with their great cornerback and solid safeties lately.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on May 12, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The reason the Steelers don't have a good CB is because they have arguably the best safety in the league
Plus the best front 7 in the league.
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So 1 Safety > 2 or 3 CBs
You just made my point even better, thanks.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
1 Damn good safety > 2 or 3 medicore cornerbacks
FTFY
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So here's my final thought on this
Move Glover Quin to SS
Sign Michael Huff – FS
Sign Alan Branch – DT/DE
Sign UDFA Mark Herzlich as an ILB
Sign UDFA Ian Williams – NT
Sign UDFA Terrence Tolliver – WR
Defensive Line Up
DE – Smith/Branch
NT – Cody/Mitchell/I.Williams
DE – Watt/Okoye
WOLB – M.Williams/Anderson
WILB – Ryans/Sharpton
SILB – Cushing/Herzlich
SOLB – Barwin/Reed
CB – Allen/Jackson/Harris/Carmichael/McCain/McManis
FS – Huff/Nolan
SS – Quin/Keo
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
ALAN JACKSON AT CB!!???
HELL YA!
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Remember when
“Where were you when Peiton started crying, on that September day”
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
He has the height.....
to cover just about any receiver in the league…..don’t know about foot speed though. lol
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
dude for real though our CB depth chart looks like a country western concert list
TONIGHT!! LIVE AT DUDE RANCH SALOON!!!
Allen Jackson
Harris Carmicheal
and last but not least
MCCAIN MCMANIS!!!!!!!
WOOOOO!!!!!!
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
And I feel sorry for your family's impending loss
You do know country music leads to more suicides than any other form of music, right?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
wouldnt doubt it
fuck country
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
what a couple of hosers...
Don’t believe everything you read, kid… especially from someone who takes suicide lightly.
How am I supposed to take an article that defames Hot Pockets seriously?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
by nolander on May 12, 2011 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I almost quit reading when he made the comment about hot pockets
Best. Food. Ever!!!!!
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
Hot pockets?
That’s easy. Jim Gaffigan has your answer for you. Sheer brilliance.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Agreed
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me just reiterate.
If you haven’t seen the clip I posted, you NEED to do so immediately. There is no way the original hot pockets comment should be greened and mine not, unless the link has been avoided.
It is flat amazing, and as a rarity in comedy, is actually SFW.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay... I watched it and it is rec-worthy... thanks.
“Dead Pooocket” classic.
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on May 12, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The whole routine is classic...
also search-worthy are the bits on “bacon” and “the holidays.”
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I immediately thought of this stand-up as well when I read the hot pocket line
diarrhea pocket!
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on May 17, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Could Nnamdi be our Julius Peppers?
The Bears overpaid for Peppers, but he was an impact player at a position of need. I’m all for fiscal responsibility, but sometimes you have to go out and get what you want, not what’s left over. Remember, the Bears were 7-9 in 2009 and with Peppers as their only big addition, they were 11-5 and made it to the NFC championship game. Could Nnamdi have that type of impact for us? There’s only one way to find out. . .
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
by Drill Sarge on May 12, 2011 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
although
they did not bring in a new DC with a new 34 scheme in a lockout offseason, but God I hope it turns out like that
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
STOP SAYING PARALLEL
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Parallel
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Shenanigans?
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
I swear to God I'll pistolwhip the next one of you who says Shenanigans.
Canal Street Chronicles-A place of great Saints news and information. Oh and the stuff I write!
Shenanigans
/ducks and scuttles away quickly to avoid rapidly descending pistol butt
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
If you want to get technical...
None of us are actually saying Shenanigans. We’re typing Shenanigans. We’re thinking Shenanigans. But nobody said Shenanigans.
And let’s be honest. If any of us did say Shenanigans, you wouldn’t know it because you couldn’t hear us say Shenanigans over the internets. Because sound doesn’t travel like that, Shenanigans or no.
::waits for Jon Banks’ head to asplode::
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 12, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, and what's wrong with saying Shenanigans, anyway?
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 12, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I said it out loud in real life.
And I’ll say it again.
I’d even eat there if any of those weird slutty girls from “Waiting” really worked there.
Super Troopers reference.
Actually went over everyone who replied’s head.
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Yeah I've pretty much erased everything about that movie from my mind...
except of course the shower scene… Brown Chicken Brown Cow…
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
You boys ever been to Mexico?!?
Actually, the answer if probably yes in much higher numbers when asked that on a Texans blog than on a Seahawks one.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 13, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Okay, break it up up meow
Nothing more to see here, Go home meow
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 13, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
CHICKEN FUCKER!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Liter of cola.
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But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun!
Yeah, and your shenanigans are cruel and tragic. Which… makes them not really shenanigans at all.
Evil shenanigans!
Blind fandom is all I got left. That and this bottle of Clorox. And this Drano. And this lamp. And this paddle ball game.
Shanahanigans
Wait – that wasn’t quite right
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what happens when you DARE...
…to discipline a fat tub-of-lard salary sucker and refuse to just bow down to the “common knowledge” that Donovan McNabb is some kind of a Hall-of-Fame quarterback.
If Daniel Snyder will just stay locked in a back room for a couple of seasons, the ’Skins may actually have a decent team with which to torment the Southern Oklahoma team.
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on May 12, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec for "tub-of-lard"
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't "Shanahanigans" when you get locked in the tanning booth overnight?
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 13, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perpendicular to perpendicular?
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Highly unlikely
I just don’t see it working out from a financial standpoint. As it’s been said before, the Texans won’t set the market on CBs. They only set the market with WRs & corner the market on TEs
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Revis get a deal from the Jets last season like he wanted?
Cause that would solve the market issue.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Actually that could make it worse
Nnamdi could say he’s worth more than Revis
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention, if I'm not mistaken, Nnamdi already had the highest paying contract for a CB
So it’s highly unlikely he’ll ask for less unless he’s going to a legitimate contender
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
He is the highest paid as it is, yes
I can’t imagine anyone resetting his payscale though….I’ve seen 3 years for 42-45 tossed around….5 for about 60mil tossed around by people far more in the know. To me, I don’t mind it. We paid Dunta near $10 mil to suck, I’d be okay with paying an All-Pro $12-15 mil to not suck.
"Lord, beer me strength."
He signed a wierd contract with oakland
2 yrs/28.5 mill guaranteed. 3rd year was an option and he would have to be paid the average of the 5 top QB’s or 16.875 mi, whichever was HIGHER. Oakland could not franchise him. That’s why he is a free agent. I think he’ll be in the neighboorhood of a 4 year 50 million dollar contract.
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
Revis got a 4 year 32 million dollar contract
I think Nnamdi is going to want more than that. Remember, Revis was not a free agent and still had 2 years left on his contract
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
Texans Salary Cap Status
Although this is of concern… I’m in a WIN NOW mode! I don’t care about future contract situations w/ Mario, Duane & company… Field a team thats a superbowl contender and well Rick Smith is getting paid to re-sign players and make it work, so let him do his job. We keep worrying about $$$$, and that is our biggest fault. Anyother player yes, i would have concern giving big $$$ to, but Nnamdi is a top flight corner on a bad team.
its pretty hilarious when you try to rec your own posting
the “actions” button just disappears like its saying “wtf are you trying to do?”
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions
I think it's criminal that you can't Rec your own post
Getting Rec’ed gives me pleasure, and I’m pretty sure SBN doesn’t have the right to stop me from pleasuring myself. I think it’s in the constitution or something.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on May 12, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
it pauses for a sec like it might let you but its gonna read your post first
then it says “no way thats funny enough” and disappears
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll rec that one for you
Baby.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still think the salary cap is going bye bye
Or atleast be a neutered version like what the NBA has when all is said and done
So making a play for Asomugha wouldn’t be a bad thing for Houston (or Jacksonville ;)
by Jonathan Loesche on May 12, 2011 1:35 PM CDT reply actions
I'm in Jacksonville today
It’s not nearly as awful as the pundits make it out to be.
Needs more nose tackle.
I share this belief of the cap going into hibernation.
If the league, rightfully, wants a rookie pay structure then the correct compromise would be to allocate those funds to the veterans who earned the cash (and the alumni support structure) and thus remove the cap so the players believe the sky is the limit.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Yep
Why would the Players Union Service Agency agree to restrict rookie salaries with an increase on the backend?
by Jonathan Loesche on May 12, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll also want a limited length on those rookie contracts
So probably no more 5-7 year rookie contracts.
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 12, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the players want 3 or 4 years
while the owners want 4 and 5 years.
IIRC
"Lord, beer me strength."
I believe the opposite
The cap will be in place as soon as possible
it is about profits for owners – not quality of the game – besides look what it did to the NBA – an organization almost out of business
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be a dream come true for me...
being that in Seattle we have the richest owner in all of pro sports, and he’s shown a willingness to not be cheap.
Please, Seattle. Can we rebuild the right way for once...That means without a faded hero leading a charge towards mediocrity.... And if you haven't figured it out yet, that means no more Hasselbeck.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 12, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
The Texans plan to use "twin safeties" in the secondary providing the FS and SS with similar responsibilities. "Ever since my freshman year I had to know free and strong," S Dominique Barber said. "Knowing both sides will make you better because you know what the other guy is doing." Texans RapidReports
Haha.
Shaun Cody and Earl Mitchell at the nose tackle, which seems akin to being perfectly content with Hot Pockets because they are technically edible.
by RamblinWreck7 on May 12, 2011 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What does this mean?
wants to see the long-form version of Matt Schaub’s birth certificate to make sure he can rightfully be the Texans QB over Vince Young.
Matt Shaub is a 100X better than Vince Young as of right now it’s stupid to not think so.
Richard Justice Disagrees with you
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It's OK
No one here thinks he knows what he is doing
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
LIL DICKY JUSTICE AGE 12
is even disrespected by some colleagues…. who will remain nameless!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Okay time for my two cents.
How often does a true superstar become a free agent in a time where he can actually make the difference in a positive way? I don’t mean guys that were good or great but true difference makers. A couple of people on here are opposed to Nmandi because they believe that his stats don’t reflect what he truly is. They believe that Revis is better and that Asomugha won’t solve all of our problems on D.
All I know is that Revis practically shuts down one half of the field. Offensive coordinators rarely throw to his side and prefer to instead take their chances against the Raiders 2nd and 3rd options. The Texans have never had that as far as I can recall (which after drinking so much bleach isn’t a lot). I would break the bank to sign him because he will improve this team drastically. Let’s say that Wade’s defense is just as vanilla as every other d-coordinator in that the d-line gets rarely any pressure. Now its up to your secondary to step up and do its job. I would feel more confident with Jackson as the 2nd cornerback and safety help over the top than having him as the number one option and having a repeat of next year.
Worse case scenario it all fails and Nmandi becomes a viable trade option in years 2 and 3. If he does everyone will just blame the Texans for being the same terrible team that they have always been and that not even Durga himself could help our team. I know await for everyone here to destroy and dissect my opinion.
PS. My screenname says it all.
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on May 12, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
I have to say....
I agree with you, I for one have been on the fence on this. I would be happy if we get Nnamdi, i am one of the people that say yes he cuts the field in half and really does not do anything else. I understand his numbers are low and all, just hope it will be for the better of the team.
I have to say....
I agree with you, I for one have been on the fence on this. I would be happy if we get Nnamdi, i am one of the people that say yes he cuts the field in half and really does not do anything else. I understand his numbers are low and all, just hope it will be for the better of the team.
Instead of being /Southpaw'd
You have been OU’d
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
With the switch to what Wade says is a 5-2....
It’s going to put a high emphasis on the CB position especially with the middle and back of the field being exposed. If we do get Scrabble, it can at least negate a WR running slants or QB’s trying to go for the long ball on one side of the field. That means we can load up the other half of the field with safeties to assist KJ, BH or whomever plays on that side. If we can say that a safety can make a mediocre CB look like an all-pro, the same can be said about Nnamdi making a mediocre safety look like an all-pro because of the amount of tackles against the run (due to teams having to rely on the running game more) and assists vs the pass especially with half the field to work with.
Aubrayo Franklin
is someone that we should be a lot more interested in than Nmandi. Just saying.
'You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an @sshole.' - The Dude
Niners won't let him walk without a bidding war
And Wade’s been on record saying that he’s happy with his NTs. People need to let that go.
"Lord, beer me strength."
so let me get this straight...
jason allen will be on the team next year right? he is still under contract. So why not have allen and quin at safeties and kareem and vet cb starting? For some reason some people have been saying allen is gone, was only a rental for last year. So thats our secondary guys depending on what vet we get i could live with that.
I can see Jason Allen & Glover Quin at FS & SS respectively
Here’s a name we haven’t been talking about though. What about bringing in Richard Marshall from the Panthers?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 13, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
That double negative gives a sign of hope
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 14, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I need my Math guys here on BRB or people who know alittle something about salries.
Why is it that we have $48,330,000 salary
but Dallas has $93,773,721? Also in that Cle, Car, and Buf have bigger salaries then us.
I want to know how is this setup to where one team can pay this amount, why the other teams pay this amount. What i am getting at is if Dallas and all those other teams have that much, why cant we get Nnamdi and a great saftey. Is there a set amount teams suppose to spend or what?
if you guys want to look and check out other teams here.
It is because contracts such as Demeco, Andre, OD, Cushing are not on it.
Add that we want to bring pro bowler Vonta Leach back, we will probably match Dallas’ salary.
If you ever have salary , or salary cap when there is one, questions
Go ask Keith at www.inthebullseye.com he’s the man on that stuff. I think the one you linked is either missing some of the extensions or is just wrong. Every set of salary/payroll numbers I have seen shows the Texans spending much more than that.
http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/nfl/salaries/team
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Yup, based on those figures.....
Mcnair is not cheap. How he invests that money on certain players definitely does come to question though.
You guys may want to pass this on to some folks in the Texans organization
But I have heard from several sources, with no availability to inside information, that Nnamdi has a very real and aggressive form of tybericulous deterioration. While you may not have heard of this tragic ailment let me assure you that it is not good. I don’t see why any team would want to sign him.
Oh, and he caught it from Michael Huff.
I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo
A google search comes up with nothing there
even when you spell tuberculous correctly. In fact, as far as google is concerned tuberculous deterioration as a disorder does not exist and neither does tybericulous deterioration.
Methinks you were had, Whiskey...
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"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
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I for one am a fan of Huff...
he seems to be a solid Safety. I think noontide is just hoping his team gets Scrabble and Huff
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"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
nm raiders fan hoping scrabble doesn't go anywhere!
I was talking with my barber an avid Raiders fan and I told him I wanted Nnamdi on the Texans, he held a straight blade to my throat and said I will cut you if you talk that blasphemy again.. I was not scared because I told him that Al Davis will let him go and find the fastest Saftey next year to add as a first round draft pick and then he punched the punching bag with al davis corpse on it!
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"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
ORLY?
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