"To be honest,'' Schatz said, "I don't think Mario Williams as outside linebacker is that crazy. The strongside linebacker [in Phillips' defense] only rarely drops into coverage and the weakside linebacker almost never drops into coverage. Last year, our game charters had Ware in coverage on six passes. That's it. [Antwan] Applewhite, the weakside linebacker in San Diego, was in coverage on just nine. Williams makes more sense there than as a five-technique end.'' The five-technique end has run and rush responsibilities and lines up on the outside shoulder of the offensive tackle.
According to the numbers crunched by FootballOutsiders.com, Ware got home more than Williams in the past three seasons, but both had good impact disrupting the quarterback. Ware had 47 sacks to Williams' 30, but they had an identical 120 hits and hurries of the passer.
about 1 year ago
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Glorious.
Fuggin fantastic to hear someone actually do some research and speak intelligently about the move.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on May 12, 2011 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
No kidding
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
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It's just a fad... It'll never catch on...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Except for Peter King's Name on it
Not a bad deal
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's the rub.
But I applaud King for putting it out there. I’m guessing he had a whole different take until his boy came back and said it might be a good move, so he redirected when he actually… get this… thought about it. We couldn’t get the same love from Warren and Wille on NFLN, sadly.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
The NFL network people were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID!!!
They acted like Mario would drop into coverage 20 times a game.
by RamblinWreck7 on May 13, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
WE ARE TOTALLY CUTTING MARIO BEFORE TRAINING CAMP!
MOVING HIM TO OLB IS JUST A SMOKE SCREEN SO CHEAPY MCNAIR CAN REFUSE TO PAY HIM!
by DisplacedTexan on May 12, 2011 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
you forgot
MARIO IS THE WORST PICK IN THE HISTORY OF EVER!!!!! IF THE TEXANS WANTED TO WIN THEY WOULD SIGN VY FOR A BILLION DOLLAR DEAL A YEAR FOR THE NEXT FOREVER. THEN THEY COULD SIGN REGGIE BUSH BECAUSE HE IS THE GREATEST RUNNINGBACK TO EVER TOUCH A FOOTBALL AND SCORES ON EVERY POSSESSION WHETHER HE PLAYS SPECIAL TEAMS, OFFENSE, DEFENSE, AND WATERBOY. MARIO WILLIAMS WILL NEVER SIGN HERE BECAUSE THE TEXANS WILL ALWAYS SUCK. THEY HAVE NOBODY ON THEIR TEAM THAT IS WORTH ANYTHING. THEY SHOULD JUST MOVE THE TEAM TO MEXICO.
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on May 12, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
my ears... ow-ow-OW-ow... ow-ow-ow
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Now, now - it will be OK
Look- a squirrel!
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
/looks frantically for squirrel
/realizes a fraud has been perpetrated
Et tu, BfT? Et tu?
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
There are always squirrels
In the pecan trees in my front yard
(I hate those guys)
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh reeeeally....?
/grabs atlas
/realizes he doesn’t know where BfT lives
/wonders why he’s holding atlas
/sniffs atlas page
/chews on corner
/decides to nap
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
I worked w/ a guy.....
who always used the phrase “perpetrate a fraud”. He came to work one day and said he had been kidding around w/ his 6 yr old son the night before and his boy looked at him and said “Dad, you tryin’ to penetrate a frog?”
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
by txknight on May 12, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Fake Conversations with Real People
Me: I’m glad someone finally likes this plan.
MDC: Of course it’s a great idea. It’s mine. From January.
by bv on May 12, 2011 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Zing!
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Did MDC create a sockpuppet???
:-P
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by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I found the whole situation humorous. Everyone was shocked by wade’s announcement, but when you revisit matt’s post, he nailed it a long time ago.
by bv on May 12, 2011 9:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Very true
I can see Mario at either OLB or DE, but MDC easily made the case of where Mario SHOULD go.
Also, I’ve been jonesing to use the word “sockpuppet” for purely personal reasons. Not here, but I’m simply amazed at the lengths people will go through to make themselves look good. /no Adams
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by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
At the same time, we all thought the DE was more plausible
bc Wade said that first. Then we drafted JJ Watt and he changed his plan i think
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 13, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions
All?
No sir. I always thought they’d try him a few snaps per game, at minimum, at OLB. Made too much sense.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
congrats, this is for you
bfd took a bite before he knew it was the prize for the “Predict How and Where Mario Will Be Used in Wade’s new 3-4 Scheme Contest”
I just meant that we (as a SB Nation Blog) mostly focused on how it would work with him as a 5tech DE because WP was quoted to say he would use him that way. Not that NOBODY speculated otherwise.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 13, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I believe I found Wade Phillips' secret to make Shaun Cody & Earl Mitchell viable NTs
By making them take on William “The Refrigerator” Perry
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
A large part of the difference in sack totals
Comes from our lack of inside pressure. Ware had Ratliff caving in the pocket and the Texans had a nice VIP suite for Peighton or anyone else to seamlessly slide up into to avoid Mario and Antonio and choose which smoldering CB to pick on next. I like Earl Mitchell at nose and I think hell have the starting gig by mid camp.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 6:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Ratliff only had 6 more pressures than Okoye and one more sack
Okoye also had more QB hits than Ratliff. No, I’m not saying Okoye is better than Ratliff. It’s not even close either, but I am saying the no pressure from the middle thing is overblown somewhat. I would love to see a breakdown of how quickly QB’s got rid of the ball against us vs. other defenses. My feeling is that our coverage was so bad last year, and our scheme so transparent, that QB’s were able to go to their first read quickly before our pressure had much of a chance to get there.
Yes, usually the the pass rush needs to help the secondary, but if the QB is consistently able to get rid of the ball on his 3rd, or even 5th, step of his drop it’s very hard for the pressure to get there. That was part of the reason for the spread of west coast offense. Get the ball out of the QB’s hands quickly before he can be sacked.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Ya maybe last year.
but since Amobe has beenin the league he has like 11 sacks and for the same period of time (since 2007) Ratliff has almost 20. Im just talking about what has allowed Ware to get the stats over his career so far was having the next best pass rusher at NT. The Texans got smoked deep A LOT last year and that takes a little bit of time to develop, and I just know from the eye test that whenever the QB wasnt throwing a quick route he had a beautiful pocket to slide into and avoid the outside pressure. Hence Antonio Smiths great pressures but inability to “finish”.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 13, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to get into an Amobi debate because that has been beat to death and my bigger point was about how easily it was for WR to get space for the QB to get him the ball quickly
Sure we were beat deep many times last year….but that is a small % of pass plays per game. The largest % of deep balls thrown was 22% last year. So out of 35 or so pass plays a game the deep ball is only coming 5 or 6 times per game. Also if a WR gets a clean release, or isn’t jammed at all, and runs a straight go route right by your DB it doesn’t take that long to develop. The QB can get rid of the ball in around three seconds and still beat you deep down the field.
Side note Amobi’s pressure #‘s have been towards the top of the league for the last few years according to PFF. They aren’t perfect, and there is a level of subjectiveness to what they count as a pressure. I think our pass rush was inconsistent at times, but I think you will see that with a lot of teams. I don’t think our pass rush was as non-existent as some people seem to think it was.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I understand your point but my point that Amobi isnt THAT bad
especially at rushing the passer but that our horrid secondary makes it hard. MY point was only that having a top notch pass rusher (who is far better than Okoye) has contributed greatly to Wares sack totals. Maybe I should go further to align our points and say that the Cowboys competent coverage contributed as well.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 13, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
im sorry erase "but my point" from my title
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 13, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
is this normal?
Lately ive been gettin real pumped up about how sick nasty our front 7 is gonna be next season and i realized the investment we have put into it-
Three 1st round picks (Mario, Cush, Watt)
Two 2nd rounders (Barwin, Cody) not to menton Reed, another 2nd rder as depth/competition
A DROY probowl caliber captain in the middle with Meco and a damn good 5th rd player in Antonio Smith
And all this has actual quality depth behind it w Sharpton. Mitchell and Reed being qood football players. Johnny likey.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 6:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
plus
Another 1st rder that i think will do well as a 5tech end, Amobi Okoye, and Mark Anderson will both probably be serviceable starters for most of the teams in the league. Another guy i hope to see as part of the DE rotation is Tim Bulman. I always thought that guy not only brings it whistle to whistle but hes effective in being a handful for OL, opening blitz lanes for Meco and the gang.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 12, 2011 6:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting thought
And I think it’s another chicken or/and the egg thing. Our defensive coaching sucks ass, and pretty much always has. OTOH, you have Kubiak and Dennison way up coaching offensive players, and they’ve also been adept at finding talent. Defensively, and aside from Mario (as was touched upon the other day), no player has progressed noticeably after their rookie year. We don’t get those improvements like we see from the Arian Fosters and Chris Myerseseseses and those types of guys you see on offense.
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Fixed it
Our defensive coaching sucks ass, and pretty much always has used to always suck ass
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You notice
All our high pick are in the front seven, except Kareem. The safety position is still what concerns me the most
by AllenOU on May 12, 2011 7:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Good point
I remember watching the earliest Texans games and wondering why the safeties sucked. It seems they were always out of position or missed tackles.
I do believe this will change with Wade – a good DC knows he needs a good Safety – because a good safety can make up for shortages in several areas.
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
...and NT...
Blind fandom is all I got left. That and this bottle of Clorox. And this Drano. And this lamp. And this paddle ball game.
Fixed
Bill Kollar is the wildcard an over-rated coach who has no extended track record of success.
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http://www.battleredblog.com
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by bigfatdrunk on May 12, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
bfd said it better than me
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
.. What that woman been doin' to me
One of my faves
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Or not-so-wild card
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate that card
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 13, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Finally,
some sense comes from sports writers/analysts outside of Houston.
Tired of all the retards on ESPN saying Mario doesn’t fit a 3-4 because he’ll have to drop back.
He’ll drop back in coverage maybe 7 or 8 times all season. THAT’S TO YOU, TIM HASSELBECK AND CRIS CARTER.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
...And Warren Sapp!
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Just because of him
I hope Mario has the greatest.season.ever
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 12, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
What are you talking about? Time Hasselbeck knows football
It's why he's got all those awards and championships from his days of being a starting quarterback.
"Lord, beer me strength."
He's a dumb ass.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on May 12, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
The "C"-word, really?
We don’t have any profanity filters that can do an auto-swap of “Rodent-haired-beaver-toothed-coke-bottle-glasses-wearing-cock-smoking-doooshnozzle” for that word?
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Matt Millen has them all beat
THAT dude is the worst personnel evaluators in the history of EVAR. And yet he gets to sit on tv and tell us what he thinks. Amazing.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
It's even better
When both Millen & Casserly are in the same segment…especially when it involves talent evaluation.
But I’ll always thank Millen for not drafting Andre.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
+1
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on May 13, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Apologies.
I know no one should ever take us back to that place, but it just irks me so much when he talks about anything. It’s a feeling akin to the “pineapple up hitler’s ass” part of Little Nicky, and it won’t go away until he does.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
I'm OK with Dilfer
Regardless of how bad he was/is, at least he started at QB for a Super Bowl winner. Now, Tim Hasselbeck, on the other hand…it’s a complete mystery how that guy is employable.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
Simple
His last name is Hasselbeck. His brother is still a household name, I’m being generous here, mind you), so he banks on that. Plus, if they canned him, his wife would come down and hound them ad infinitem until they gave him his job back. And nobody wants THAT.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 16, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Stevens wife got re-married??
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on May 16, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't know Kurt Warner's wife HAD a sister...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
I have to think Elizabeth Hasselbeck
Is, pound for pound, more obnoxious than Kurt Warner’s wife. With Warner retired, we’ll never see his wife again (thank you, Based God).
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 16, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Warner's wife was a Marine
Not that it’s an excuse for being obnoxious but I can understand. The fact that he lets here wear the pants though speaks louder than anything she says.
Hasselbeck on the other hand is just ridiculous. She makes me want to hate hot blonde chicks, and that’s a damned shame.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I give her respect for being a Marine...
…which is almost COMPLETELY offset by her calling radio talk shows and creating a poop storm when he was in St Louis.
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
hahaha!
I like how you use poop in many of your descriptions!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I concur.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
Everybody is born right-handed, but only the truly gifted can overcome it.
by UprootedTexan on May 17, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Also from the article:
“[I]f I’m McNair, I’m telling Rick Smith he has carte blanche to go after accomplished cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha when the free-agent market opens, because a pass-rush without coverage is not going to be good enough.”
Especially if this defense becomes more of a 5-2. Quick slants and outs are going to kill us.
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