Oh Sure, Now Wade Phillips Doesn't Want Vending Machines
by riversmccown on May 24, 2011 9:00 AM CDT
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Chris Watkins covered this story very well over the weekend at SB Nation Houston, but I wanted to put my own two cents in.
Wade Phillips, at a dinner for high-paying customers, proclaimed again that he does not need an earth-moving nose tackle to make his scheme work.
"There's all kinds of players," Phillips said. "I think I've had six Pro Bowl nose guards since I've coached in the league - all different sizes. Ted Washington at Buffalo was 400 pounds, I know. And Greg Kragen (in Denver), he was 250-260. And even Jay Ratliff, who was in the Pro Bowl with us at the Cowboys, is about 280. He's not as big as the guys we have here, and everybody's saying, ‘Wow, these guys can't play it.' It's all the techniques involved and how you play the position.
Now, I'll admit that I would much rather have the planetoid nose tackle. I think that's a very consistent position that this blog, as a whole, has adopted and been crushed that the organization hasn't made any attempt to adhere to.
But the whole tone of this post is that the Texans can have either a penetrating player or a huge nose tackle and succeed. I think that misses the actual beef. While I'd like a huge nose tackle, I would've been absolutely fine if the Texans drafted Nick Fairley or Stephen Paea and said, "Nose tackle is fixed." In other words, this isn't about whether Phillips can get the best out of the players he has or whether they are fits for the system. This is about actually addressing a position that has been a problem for a long time.
I know I'm beating the same drum that we've been on for a solid year now, but if the Texans don't actually go out of their way to acquire a nose tackle (or safety) with a high draft pick or a big money deal, then why are they so surprised that their fans perceive the areas as weak points? You can paint up Shaun Cody and Earl Mitchell with all the PR and "Phillips can coach these guys up"'s you want, but putting one of the most important positions in the 3-4 in the hands of a sophomore without much experience and a decent journeyman, neither of whom have played the 3-4 nose in their careers, is a risk. Ergo, it is being perceived as risky. Thus, that is why "people" are saying, "These guys can't play it," Wade.
Hopefully they (and you) prove us wrong, but I offer no apologies for being skeptical that nose tackle will not be a problem area for the Texans this season.
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My confusion is that there were people that wanted Phil Taylor who is a monster
but some people thought HE couldnt play the position because he was “too big” and endurance would be a problem. With Mario and Barwin/Reed ahrdly ever dropping into coverage I think the DE will be able to cheat their alignments to the inside to help keep the guards busy while Mitchell has a chance to come off the ball quick and disrupt the Center-QB exchange or even grab the QBs ankles and trip him up. I played QB and that was the goal of a smaller DT @ nose, just be an overall nuisance for the center who has A LOT of responsibility. I think Earl is gonna be a BEAST.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions
I don't remember anyone saying that about Taylor.
Work ethic was the main thing in question, and with that, weight control. THAT’S the “too big” you might’ve heard. Dude blows up to 400+ and he can’t play for anyone.
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Thats my point, thats the concern with every gigantic dude that plays that position
the whole “work ethic” thing is tied him “taking plays off” which is just as equally tied to “conditioning issues” because of “weight control”. If you want a huge man to play the spot it wouldnt come without its own set of concerns.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
but you'd said "was too big"
I took that to mean “in the past.” It’s the future people were speculating on.
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ya but were talking about the future with Mitchell too
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
There are big men who don't present this
Haloti Ngata (although he’s more DE than NT at times), Big Pat Williams, Casey Hampton, Aubrayo Franklin are good NTs who don’t have that stigma.
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ya the best of the best.
just as i can make a list of smaller DTs than have had great success at the NT role that dont have the stigmas that come with being considered “undersized”. My point is that there are downfalls of each type of player that can fill the role.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I personally see Mitchell coming off the line so low and so quick
theres no way he gets blown off the ball. I can see a lot of centers being forced to holding to keep from getting flat out beat every play.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, a quick comparison I wanted yalls opinion on:
I think we are about to watch our Texans go the way of the 2009 Green Bay Packers, bringing in an experienced, proven defensive coordinator to team (Capers/Phillips) with a keen offensive mind (McCarthy/Kubiak), having a great draft that can shore up the defense (Raji-Matthews/Watt-Reed-Harris) coming off a 6-10 record (theres due to Rodgers being a rookie, ours due to a horrid defense). They went 11-5 that year and still only snagged the wildcard, something I could see us having to do and then they came back in 2010 with a solid draft and fought through injuries on their way to a Super Bowl win. I cannot wait.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 9:45 AM CDT reply actions
There's also a comparison to New Orleans possibly
New Orleans went a combined 15-17 in 2007 and 2008 with a high powered offense and terrible defense. The Texans went 15-17 in 2009 and 2010 with a high powered offense and terrible defense. They both hired former head coaches who specialized in fixing defenses (Gregg Williams/Wade Phillips). I honostly think that we are now 2 secondary players away from being a team that can make a run at the Super Bowl. The Giants did with a 9-7 team. Arizona did it. New Orleans did it. Green Bay was a 6 win team in 2008. I think the stars could be aligning for us. . .
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by Drill Sarge on May 24, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly Sarge, we are at a minimum two DB's away from a defense good enough to go to battle with
As much as I would like to upgrade DT, and I share rivers’ skepticism, I think the need in the secondary is greater. We need a veteran CB AND a safety. We are woefully thin in the secondary.
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by oiler-texan diehard on May 24, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
my apologies
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade may not want a vending machine
But Kubiak better make sure we keep the Coke Machine in Houston
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
Even if Vonta is the best fullback, can we afford to tie up the money to keep him?
Dre loves Vonta. We all love Vonta. Managing the cap forces tough decisions. It dictates that you can’t pay top dollar at too many positions. You have to choose very carefully who gets the top tier deals. If Vonta demands that he be paid higher than any other FB, and I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to cash in, it may be in the Texans’ best interests to let him walk. Just sayin’
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by oiler-texan diehard on May 24, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ridiculous...
The term “Highest Paid Full-back” is like saying buying the most expensive piece of gum in the grocery store. I bet the Highest Paid FB will have a similar cap hit as Orlovsky’s contract
Orlovsky is a perfect example of overpaying for a player
Repeating that mistake too many times = salary cap hell. The Texans acquired him as insurance against Schaub’s then perceived lack of durability. Matthas proven much more durable over the last two seasons, and what little we have seen from Dan O in preseason has been terrible. Cut him now and keep Leinart and the draft pick. Dan O isslated to earn 2.25 mil in 2010 plus 850K in bonus. That is WAY too much to pay for a bad backup QB. Perhaps cutting Dan would free up the dollars to give Vonta ridiculous money.
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by oiler-texan diehard on May 24, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
"Give Vonta ridiculous money"
You obviously missed MghtyPtrck’s point, and haven’t read enough about the situation. Leonard Weaver is the top paid FB in the league with a whopping 6 million guaranteed over 3-4 years. Chicken feed, by comparison to, well… any other player not a kicker/punter/deep snapper.
Two other points: 1. Dan O is not as bad as people claim. 2. He doesn’t make a ton of money either.
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Yep
IIRC Weaver’s contract is $11.5 million over 3 years with $6 guaranteed.
If you thought Leach could do this for 5 more seasons, you could do $20 million over 5 years with $8 guaranteed and that’s still, relatively, small.
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Agree that Dan O isn't as bad as people claim
He made a stupid mistake with the endzone thing, but at least he was keeping his eyes down field under pressure in a pretty shitty situation. If I had a nickle for every blunder I’ve made in my life….well I could buy a cheeseburger combo at least.
IMO I’d say he’s about on the same skill level as Rosencopter, minus the years of experience holding a clipboard.
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Danno Kool Aid? Who are you people?
Agreed, he gets far more hate than a backup QB ever deserved.
Dro, l think your Rosenfels comparisons are slightly off mark, however. Rosenfels had skills, without much talent. I’d say the opposite is true for Orlovsky. Plus, Dan has had years of experience holding the clipboard. Just not enough in a scheme that emphasizes short/intermediate passes. It would really be interesting for us to get a look at him this preseason (his 3rd in Houston), and hopefully we’ll get that chance.
It’s easier to develop skill than talent, and Dan has plenty of raw talent.
I meant
Not as many years holding the clipboard. But really, I don’t think they’re all that different talent or skill wise. I think it’s safe to say Dan O is never going to set the NFL on fire, like Rosenfels, and they’re both prone to making bone headed mistakes that cost their teams games.
Still, I think he can be a serviceable back up for a season or two, like Rosenfels. But lets face it, if we ever have to rely on him for any length of time we’re screwed, like Rosenfels.
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Probably so.
Then again, more to the point: they’re backups… ie: not ideal for relying on.
IMO, Rosenfels was very skilled. He was a pretty consistent player as a reliever and spot starter, whenever called upon. Talent wise, he seemed to be somewhat mobile, but he threw the ball as if it were a shot-put. Still, l’d say he limited his mistakes for the most part, chopper incident aside.
Danno’s future will likely be either “all” or “nothing”. His throwing motion is beautiful, and his arm is very powerful. He hasn’t shown the ability to understand his reads (a greater indictment than one forced safety could ever be), though l’m sure he was normally allowed/expected to get by with his cannon arm, until the Texans came around and took a flyer on him. But that simply won’t get the job done, here. If Koobs and Knapp ever get through to him somehow; if Danny ever becomes polished, l dare say he could be a good player in this league. Even starting caliber.
Same thing they said about Sage
ifDannySage ever becomes polished, l dare say he could be a good player in this league. Even starting caliber.
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well, l'm going by my opinions only
and l never had that opinion about Sage. I thought he regularly played above his physical abilities, actually.
Just wondering, though. Who is this “they” you refer (not reefer) to? Steve Spurrier and Chris Palmer?…
If he can keep his head in the game
And his own Helmet Dan O could be decent
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by Barryfromtexas on May 25, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
so you somehow believe the smoke that Kubiak blows?
At least Spurrier and Palmer wanted Sage for their offenses, and brought him in. Koobs sent him down the road, so even he couldn’t have believed that.
Dude I thought Sage was the Viks best option in '09
if you surround Sage with a great team, or at least a great defense, I think he could start for sure. I dont think the same for DanO to be honest. I went to the preseason games last year and Booty showed him up pretty obviously against 2’s and 3’s.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Sage was a nice game manager, for sure. He didn’t offer anything outside of that, but then again, that’s still more than most pro QBs out there tend to offer. Dan included.
How was he a better option than Favor in ‘09, though? That was by far one of Brett’s best performances.
sorry
i meant AFTER 2009 when they were in limbo with Favre I thought they shouldve just moved on for one year with Sage under center.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The same guy that couldn't beat out David Carr??
That guy??
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dude if you dont think that was politics youre crazy
shit we got a new head coach before someone could unseat Carr from the starting spot. I would have much rather had more Rosenfels than Carr the last couple years
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Just hackin on ya, Chavez.
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by beefy on May 25, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You Mexican greaser
You probably do it with your horse!
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Those must be lines from some movie I never saw....
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I don't check back in often enough, sorry
The basis of my statement was in the 1st part “you can’t pay top dollar at too many positions”. Weaver gets 11.2 Mil (6.5 guaranteed) over 3 years.. Thats’s 3.73 $M/yr.
From Rotoworld: Texans backup QB Dan Orlovsky’s 2011 base salary has increased from under $1.4 million to $2.75 million. Orlovsky held off Matt Leinart all season to be Matt Schaub’s primary clipboard holder, but nearly $3 million may be too pricey for a backup QB considered league average in that role, at best." They say he’s average at best. I can remember seeing nothing too impressive in his preseason appearances, which have been our only chances to see him outside of practice. Do you have any evidence of Dan O’s value, or just empty opinion?
Those two salaries are hardly chicken feed, but shedding Dan O’s bucks frees up the money to make Vonta the highest paid FB.
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by oiler-texan diehard on May 29, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll jump back in.
IMO, Dan provides nothing, outside of potential. He’s a project. Same with Leinart and Yates. Granted, they might have more upside than other teams’ backups, but l’m not too confident of their abilities in a pinch… not as of yet.
That’s a big cap hit for Orlovsky, indeed. If he shows growth in camp, then maybe he sticks around. Then again, what are the chances there actually is a camp?
I’ll assume that Yates hits the taxi squad this year. So it may come down to whatever Leinart demands monetarily. Provided he’s still in the running…
The highest paid fullback right now is Anthony Weaver
He makes 12 million over three years. I think the Texans can swing that and whatever the hell Scrabble will command on the FA market.
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by UprootedTexan on May 24, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The Corpse Formerly Known As Anthony Weaver?
How did he manage to get another contract? As a fullback, no less!
/realizes Anthony Weaver is not actually the highest-paid FB in the league
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by Barryfromtexas on May 25, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Sigh...brain fart.
And Leonard Weaver used to play in Seattle too…I should know better.
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by UprootedTexan on May 25, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I have a coffee?
two creams, no sugar… I’m sweet enough already…
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by Rip Jersey on May 25, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I just don't get
Why people have no faith in Mitchell doing this job well at all?
He was a fairly high draft pick (3rd round) last year and can only get better, so to say.. He actually showed something last year and has a great motor, which is a extremely important thing being nose tackle in Wade’s system.
So my question is.. why all this doubt in Mitchell?
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I suppose it doesn't matter now...
But Mitchell was one of those, “wait, what?” picks who most had pegged as a late-round pick. Personally, I didn’t see much out of him on the field last year, but Wade certainly has a better eye than I do, so I’ll have to take his word for it.
But I think he’ll be fine for the job. My general theory is that nose tackle is a pretty irrelevant position these days. The Jets have lost Jenkins early into the season both of the last two years and still came out with championship caliber defenses. Arizona drafted a fatty (Dan Williams), and after plugging him in as a starter, went from being one of the top DVOA defenses in football to one of the worst. In 2004, Casey Hampton only played four games and the Steelers still finished with the best defense in football. Then, when Polamalu only played five games in 2009, their defense dropped rankings-wise for the first time in ages.
I’d put run-stuffing nose tackle right in between fullback and nickel CB in terms of value these days. Gimme two safeties, a CB, and a punter before a situational run-stopper.
by Nashmeister on May 24, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that it might not be as important as it once was
But those examples are pretty cherry picked. The Jets and Steelers have two of the smartest defensive minds in the NFL, ones that know how to both compensate for big injuries and build depth to help overcome it. The Cardinals lost Karlos Dansby and replaced him with a washed up Joey Porter, moved a 33-year-old Paris Lenon to the starting lineup, and started Greg Toler at cornerback No. 2.
Also, you know, Dan Williams didn’t actually start at any point last year. So.
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by riversmccown on May 24, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
No one's going to quibble on Dick LeBeau
but I may be (key words here….may be) crazy enough to say that Rex Ryan’s been the benefit of great talent in Baltimore and New York as opposed to it being about him.
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Rex Ryan has has some very dominant defenses over the year
I would say it’s a combination of talent and Ryan bringing it together. It’s tough to discredit him if he has done it for so long.
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I don't know
Really the only “stand out” talent he has had in New York is darelle revis,they haven’t had a 10 plus sack guy in New york,just a good scheme and the right players to run it..
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a roster loaded with talent can get you to the biggest stage but great coaching gets you over the top. If a team has made it that far they obviously have some talent, now it comes down to adapting and adjusting.
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by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I came up with a question regarding this a few minutes ago...
It’s as follows: why do we see player salaries ballooning to $12-14 million per year despite salary cap limitations, whereas the best coaches (and especially coordinators) make just a fraction of that, even though they’re outside the salary cap?
Is it?
Going into any given off-season, how many elite free agents are there in comparison to proven winning coaches?
And I’m not necessarily even talking head coaches here; if you’re of the opinion that defensive coordinator is immensely important (as many around here seem to think given the attitudes towards Frank Bush and Wade Phillips), wouldn’t you think there would be a serious bidding war to get the talents of somebody like Wade Phillips? It just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense that somebody who is supposedly capable of taking a defense from horrible to respectable could make less than Shaun Cody.
l won't argue value, because l tend to agree with you
But l never said that a good coach had to be a “proven winner”. That we seem to disagree upon.
coaching salaries have gone up
The coaches salaries aren’t tied to league revenues the way the players salaries are. A big reason player salaries have grown so much is because the league has been seeing huge revenue gains that have been consistently increasing the salary cap.
Coaches also don’t have a limited career window. There is also far fewer coaching jobs available with plenty of coaches waiting to fill them. There is only of a handful of shutdown corner backs, but there are plenty of decent options for a defensive back coach.
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Cherry-picked
Yes, but they do prove a point; that defenses can win without a dominant NT, which I think is all Nashy was saying. He wasn’t guaranteeing winning with an average NT, just saying you could win. I think Nashy would agree, it doesn’t hurt to have that dominant NT, either. Rivers, you bring up the point of the minds behind those defenses, and yes that makes a difference. But, the evidence points to Phillips being that kind of mind, also.
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"But, the evidence points to Phillips being that kind of mind, also"
This was going to be my point too. Well said.
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Not really cherry-picked, even.
Simply the first players who came to mind when people talk about dominant nose tackles. I genuinely looked hard for examples of nose tackles who came in and turned things around for a defense, or for whom their teams suffered once they left/missed time to injury, and couldn’t come up with any recent examples. And if we’re going to credit defensive coordinators or depth for the lack of a fall-off in the cases of Pittsburgh and New York, that just tells me that the difference between a premier starter and a replacement level guy just isn’t wide enough to justify a high draft pick or big free agency dollars at the position.
Two reasons
1) I wasn’t that impressed with his tape last year. Obviously I’m not Wade Phillips. I’d like to think I know a good player when I see one though, and Mitchell didn’t really do much more than Cody in my eyes.
2) You know how some teams make young players earn starting spots? This continues a long-standing Texans tradition of putting young defenders in a spot where they absolutely HAVE to succeed for Houston to win, rather than a position where they can succeed for sure. I’ve got no problems with Earl Mitchell, third down nose tackle and part-time player. I’m not sure Earl Mitchell, starting nose tackle, is the greatest idea.
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by riversmccown on May 24, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Chicken or the egg though
Good teams can afford to make young talent earn it because they are good. Free agency can alleviate some of that, sure. It’s never going to change until we make enough good personel decisions in consecutive years to build the kind of quality depth that is needed.
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I think we made the change that was needed
It took two tries, but I think it’s fixed now. So now, let’s let Wade put it into practice.
The change I’m talking about is getting rid of the non-aggressive, simplified defensive scheme that were promoted by both Richard Smith and Frank Bush. That is not Wade Phillips’ recipe. So, good riddance to the Battle Red Carpet Zone. And, hopefully with the youth that was handpicked by Wade this draft, this defense will grow into a dominating force and be a monster for a good long time.
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Simple doesn't necessarily mean bad
Bush/smith’s scheme was super bad because it was the combination of poor talent in some areas and a bad scheme that did nothing to hide our own weakness, or attack our opponent’s weaknesses.
Wade himself describes his scheme as simple, but he crafts it to fit what talent he has available. We are also hoping that a couple of those areas where we were devoid of talent will be fixed.
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Let's be careful though
Not to go to the other extreme of expecting Wade to work miracles over night. It’s still going to be a massive work in progress, especially with the off season wasting away without OTAs and mini camps.
I really hope he can turn it around in one season but I’m bracing myself for the disappointment that it just might not be possible this year.
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players make the scheme
A great defensive mind can help hide deficiencies in talent, but that can only go so far. I think their is some promising young talent from the draft. Hopefuly Wade can help mold them into good NFL players. They will still be rookies though, and they can’t be counted on to carry the load. A coupe of free agent pick ups can help as well, but if we still have multiple holes on the defensive side of the ball I think the only realistic expectation we should have from Wade is to not completely suck.
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Our 2011 defensive motto
EXPECT TO NOT COMPLETELY SUCK
I like it. They should make some t-shirts
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We'll get that to the printer who's making the BRB t-shirts.
He doesn’t seem to be doing a whole hell of a lot at the moment.
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by UprootedTexan on May 25, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Because they don't understand.
Probably because the people doing the complaining don’t understand the difference in responsibilities of a Wade Phillips 1 gap 3-4 defensive nose tackle, as well as the other linemen, and a Pittsburgh zone blitz nose tackle. On the other hand, if they had googled a few things, they would still complain just to follow the crowd.
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No need to explain
Wade’s defense has been written about in great detail over the last few months. Anyone still ignorant of how the one gap scheme works isn’t trying to educate themselves anyway.
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I'm more worried about our nickel D than our base D.
I think we’ll have a rotation in there to help keep pressure on the QB and Mitchell and Cody will not play much, if any, in that nickel rotation.
DT’s- Antonio, Watt, Amobi
DE’s- Mario, Barwin, Reed, Anderson
LB’s- Cushing and Ryans
the 4-2-5 nickel will be crucial in winning the tougher games against teams with good QB’s, like Indy, Pitt, Atl, NO, and Baltimore. The Cowboys used Jay Ratliff in their nickle defense to rush as a DT, but we won’t necessarily use our NT’s in that front. He’ll probably come out and be replaced with the extra DB. The DE’s will move down to play over the gaurds like DT’s. Our OLB’s are all former DE’s, so they should easily drop down into a 3 point stance and rush just like a DE. The nickel is the key to unseating Indy from the top of the division. . .
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I agree that our nickel package will be more important than our base package
Though I worry a lot less about our front seven in the nickel than our back 5.
DL: Barwin, Smith, Watt, Williams
LB: Cushing, Ryans
CB: Jackson, Harris, Veteran FA
S: Allen, Quin
As you mentioned, we’ve got the depth for a mean DL rotation in the nickel set (E. Mitchell, B. Reed, and M. Anderson as depth……S.Cody too in run-safe nickel sets).
your right about the back 5
They are going to be the difference between a high draft pick and a Super Bowl run. If they can cover, we can play with anyone . IF. . .
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
by Drill Sarge on May 24, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
this^
Asides from hoping they land a veteran for the CB1 spot in FA (if it ever happens), I have high hopes for Brandon Harris. My gut is telling me that he beats KJax out in training camp if there ever is one. He might lack the year of experience KJax has, but was that experience helpful? Damn the lockout! I wanna stop speculating and I want to see these guys fighting for their spots.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
This is a good point
KJax was handed the job last season. This season, nothing should be handed to him and he should be playing for his career.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I know doubt of KJax is a popular sentiment, and deservedly so, but...
…I think once we get a Veteran FA CB, KJax will be able to get safety help. Once he gets safety help, he won’t have to fear getting burnt deep and can line up closer to the line. Once he can safely line up closer to the receiver, I think we’ll see him excel as the physical, quick-burst CB he was scouted to be, doing well in run support and jumping short to intermediate routes.
Remember, there was no safety help last year. Pollard was looking/hoping for run all of the time and Ewwgene Wilson was looking to miss a tackle.
You assume we will sign free agents
I think we will sign a S, but no CBs. Which is scary, but wade knows his shit
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
by AllenOU on May 24, 2011 2:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm betting (hoping) we sign one veteran corner...
Just because Rick and Gary were burned so badly by the young ones last year, and had to go back to the well of “they’re young, but improving, and they’re our guys” too often. I wanted so badly for them to swallow the pride and bring Reeves back after a couple of games.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Absolutely!
I’m glad I’m not the only one that was wishing they’d bring Reeves back. Yes he has issues with turning his head and looking for the ball, but at least he was almost always in position and rarely fell down without being touched.
Hell, I would’ve even settle for bringing Fred Bennett back as bad as our secondary was.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I was shocked they cut him
He was the only veteran we had. The fact that he never landed with another team might make their decision look a little better. That just could have been a case of Reeves deciding not to put his body through another season at the salaries he was getting offered.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Reeves?
He couldn’t turn his head and was getting torched in the preseason by backups. He wouldn’t have done any better.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Maybe not
…but if there was ever a case to keep a vet past his prime solely to give the young guys a veteran to lean on last year was it. Glover Quinn was probably the most experienced CB we had last year
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Until Jason Allen showed up, he was.
Molden maybe? Not so much.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Experience doesn't matter
when you’re getting beat regularly in practice by third stringers then replicate the same performance against more back-ups in the preseason. The only thing Reeves could’ve added is another name that we would’ve cursed and made fun of.
"Lord, beer me strength."
you don't believe he had skills that our other CBs didn't?
maybe there was something he could have added? Not much, granted, but at least something?
I don't
Everyone heard the reports that he was looking completely terrible in training camp and he fell down the depth chart as a result. During the preseason, he looked awful against undrafted rookies. He was released and no one else signs him….I just believe that he had lost whatever he had.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I'm thinking the opposite
They bring in a veteran CB and try and put a bandage on the safety position. For the 10th year in a row.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I would be *SHOCKED* if we didn't sign a corner
After all, we tried to do so last year. The three things that will determine whether we go after a CB or a Safety will be:
1) What we want to do with Jason Allen: he could be the other safety with Quin, or he could be our #1 CB. The latter scares me MUCH more than the former.
2) The ratio of demand to supply at the CB and S positions.
3) The potential to sign a difference-maker at CB or S.
I think points 1 and 3 make signing a CB much more likely. Point 2….I have no idea. Not to mention I think there’s a chance we can sign an upgrade at S on the cheap even after signing someone at Nnamdi’s level (I don’t think Sensenbaugh will come at a high price). I could be wrong about that, though. A FanPost I’ve been wanting to do is to analyze the Texans’ team salary sum for 2011 to consider how a salary cap might affect our ability to sign big free agents this offseason. Haven’t had the time for it though because it would be a lot of work to track down that info. :(
I'm gonna tell Jason Allen you said that
He will be in touch
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
by AllenOU on May 24, 2011 4:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Tell him I live with bfd and I look like bfd too (muhahaha)
While Jason Allen was arguably our best corner in the latter half of the season, I’d prefer our #1 CB not be someone the Dolphins weren’t comfortable with as their nickel corner. Granted, I’m assuming that because he was released. Maybe he wasn’t released for talent issues but instead because of locker room issues. I don’t know. I do know that I never got the impression watching him that he was #1 CB material.
Now, that said, here’s a very surprising stat. There were 9 players last year with 6 interceptions or more. Of those 9, 7 were given Pro Bowl honors. The 2 that weren’t given Pro Bowl honors? Aqib Talib and Jason Allen, both with 6 interceptions (Allen had 3 with the Dolphins and 3 with the Texans).
I was shocked by that stat. I suppose I shouldn’t give Allen too hard of a time. Perhaps I’m unfairly ascribing guilt by association since he played in the secondary too. :/
*CORRECTION*
Of the 9, 6 went to the Pro Bowl. The three that didn’t were Aqib Talib, Jason Allen, and Joe Haden.
Sensenbaugh
The Wade connection could be worth a reasonable price. I wouldn’t mind that at all.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Yep
I think he’ll be reasonably priced and could instantly come into the defense as the signal-caller on that side, if complexity is considered a concern for the adoption of Wade’s defense. If complexity/signal-calling isn’t as big of an issue, then Sensenbaugh might not be as great of a value, though I still think he could help.
Also, he used to play for the Jags, so maybe that’s worth something too, scouting-wise.
no to this...
I think he’ll be reasonably priced and could instantly come into the defense as the signal-caller on that side,
Dallas’ biggest issue with SeneBalls is that he does not want to be the “signal caller”…..
With the 9th Pick Dallas Selects Tyron Smith...Romo Weeps in Joy, and Bennet says"I might get to go out in the Pass Pattern now!"
by I am Ironman!!! on May 27, 2011 3:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
People want a planetoid NT usually when they are assigned to cover 2-gaps. Wade isn’t going to do that. And if there’s usually 4 or 5 players on the line, including a couple of tackles, I’m not sure how a 2-gap NT would even fit in the scheme he seems to be devising. That’s just it though, until the lockout ends and we can see what Wade is doing in practice we’re just speculating. And as I’ve said, I don’t think we should even call it a 3-4, because it probably won’t use 2-gap assignments for the DL and there will be usually be more than 3 down linemen.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Dont care what you call Wade's defense....
….as long as someone puts Paytun on his back on a regular basis. Ruprecht the monkey boy has had that coming for a long time……
And I’m as impatient for defensive success as anyone else around here, but you cant put Wade on the clock for everything Bush and his predecessors failed to do. Give the man a shot. If there isnt a dramatic turnaround this season on D, his job security is right there with Smith and Kubiak.
by Ezekiel 25 17 on May 24, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I was bit skeptical on NT
but Chris’ article kind of swayed my opinion. Wade’s got the history of relying on more sub-300 pound nose tackles than big planetoids. He’s also got proof that both can work in his scheme. Finally….If Wade wanted to draft a NT, he would’ve since he ran the draft.
"Lord, beer me strength."
What is being left out some what..
is okoye i reaaly think he could play the nose. I have to say can cody play one gap and cause pressure like okoye and mitchell? I worry about Mitchell getting double team and pushed right into the linebackers. I know if anybody played on D-line you know if you get double team and you cant make the play you drop down just to make a pile. I hope they are teaching Mitchell that cause he will get double alot. I hope teams that think they are going to pitch on our D will learn you cant do it.
if they feel the need to double Mitchell then he has done his job
seeing as that would leave 4 OL (including the TE) one on one to block Mario, Watt, Antonio Smith and Barwin. That alone allows Mario to bullrush the TE one on one or for Cushing to have a free shot at the QB untouched.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'd like to see Clark try blocking Mario
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on May 24, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
well if they running striaght up on him guard would double and relase to next level.
ISO and Draws will be killer run on this D.
That's what linebackers are for
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 24, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait a minute
Combo block is just code for double-team. That is why Mario will be becoming the roving pass-rusher of Wade’s evil plans to crush the QB of the other team. Mario will be unleashed to move prior to the snap, moving, roving, finding that ideal angle to burst. The offense can’t move you know or else they’ll draw a penalty. This is the plan. Just go along with it, sit in front of your TV and cheer when Mario squashes the play before it ever takes shape…..
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on May 24, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope you right.
But i am talking about running plays. We all worried about our Pass D and we should be. I just hope our rush D does not fall off.
I also think
That Mario isn’t going to forget how to defend the run
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 24, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You can say that about any scheme
You’re describing the basic philosophy of what any team is trying to do in the run game. Control the line and get blockers to the second level.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on May 24, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
but but but....
what if they do a kamakazi block on Mitchell then the guard front flips over his head and does a lemon drop block on Cushing and meanwhile the Center somersaults down the middle of the field with the Rb behind him like the fat kid in HOOK!?!?!
/out of breath
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This got me cracking up laughing
Listen to Idaho’s head coach rave about 5th-round S Shiloh Keo, including how he hit a player from Utah State so hard that it got him an extra year of college http://old.houstontexans.com/news/PodcastCentral2.asp?AUTO=Y&EID=134
8
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
If that doesn't get you more excited about Shiloh Keo, I don't know what will
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 24, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the link
good interview. Keo sounds and looks like the kind of player who could become a real crowd pleaser. Damn this lockout! I wanna see these guys in camp!
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Travis Johnson says hello.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
/fixed
I know I’m beating the same drum that we’ve been on for a solid year now, but if the Texans don’t actually go out of their way to acquire a nose tackle (or safety) with a GOOD high draft pick or a big money deal, then why are they so surprised that their fans perceive the areas as weak points?
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Not many from the Casserly era are still around, if any
We need to get Travis Johnson’s old jersey and have a burial party in one of the end zones to ceremonially put that era permanently behind us
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
of course, that can't happen on Reliant's fake grass slabs
So, I suppose we should find a nice comfortable spot somewhere outside the stadium…… close by
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Does such place exist?
There’s not a vacant lot to be seen for miles!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Oh shit,
You said “astroworld”. Now we’re all gonn……….
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
RIP
man i felt up on SO many of my girlfriends on the Mayan Minbender!
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Mindbender**
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 24, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I never went to Astrowooooorldddddd!!!!!!!!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I fucked some chick on thunder river
At the end of the day when they gave us our own raft. Grease lighting was still the best though
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
by AllenOU on May 24, 2011 4:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the cable cars gave you a good 5 minutes of groping
I consistantly hit a triple when I was 14 on those bad boys. . .
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
dude i spent the day trying to find new places to get my groove on
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
WTH
Whats wrong with you, and you are the reason we don’t have it anymore. Your $50 could have helped.
I wasn't here during my adolescent years
as your were, …..and still are
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Yes, the Mindbender was perfect for that
Dungeon Drop was the best thing to do first though. I miss that view from way up there
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 25, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I practically grew up at Astroworld
Back in the day when parents could dump their kids off at a major amusement park without worrying.
Great times. : (
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
That is what they told you anyhow
I had season passes many years – well worth it
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 25, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't Forget Waterworld
Had a super pass to both parks in the mid ’80’s.
/pure awesomeness
Blind fandom is all I got left.
Was she in the Boo Boo costume or were you?
Despite my better judgment, an author at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on May 25, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think Boo Boo was a panda bear
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
Apparently Boo Boo was a PoleHer bear...
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
FUNPLEX?!
ANYONE?!?!
CELEBRATION STATION?!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Free candy!!!
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
Funplex I remember.
Don’t think I ever got out to Celebration Station though.
Despite my better judgment, an author at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on May 25, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
It's called
Zuma “fun” center now.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
discovery zone!?
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I was too old by the time those came around.
Despite my better judgment, an author at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on May 25, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
wah wah waaahhhhhhh
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That weird guys van
Anyone remember that place? It kind of sucked
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
smelled like rape and tears.
didn’t like it.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
THAT's what I kept thinking of!
I remember going there as a kid but I couldn’t remember what it was called for the life of me!
Despite my better judgment, an author at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on May 25, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
o yea i use to live right behind it.
well my friends GF did who i stayed with sometimes. Yea i was wondering if anybody remember what it was called before it was changed.
cruise the lazy river
pick up a couple cuties, impress them by riding the Texas Freefall, get a handjob in the WavePool = totally worth 45 bucks or whatever it was
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on May 25, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
season passes ftw!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
We don't need a lot of space, just a spot big enough to dig a hole
If we want to get serious about this, we should take it to email and keep it on the down low. Then destroy the emails. No cameras or videos. Clandestine meeting, ceremony, then it becomes urban legend….shhhhh…. this is just between us boys…
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Hell they keep the trays for the field right out in the parking lot at Reliant
Hop the fence, lift up the sod, throw the jersey in the bottom of the tray. Done.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I like the idea of a clandestine meeting, actual digging, and then the reading of the Ode to Travis Johnson and all the Casserly Stands For" as composed by Dillo
Who’s with me?
email, btw, we’ll need a Travis Johnson jersey, if anyone wants to make the sacrifice, go down in history, and is willing to admit they have one….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
tap tap tap
still waiting for that first email from someone who wants to live in urban legend history
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
To who?
Johnson was a) drafted as an off-tackle first and b) drafted by the Casserly administration.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on May 24, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought it was for DE in the original 3-4...
Either way, your latter point speaks the volumes.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Whoa, you're right.
I’m not sure if that made the pick better or worse.
Either way, stupid pick by a stupid FO.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | SB Nation Houston | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on May 24, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
see I thought it was to play NT in the 3-4
Which is why everyone hated it because most scouts saw him as a 4-3 under-tackle type.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Thought the same.
But from what I remember, he was injured in his rookie season, so Seth Payne started for him.
It wasn’t an entirely stupid move by the previous FO, because it was to fix a need in the position.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Payne was a beast when he was healthy
He’s the only true NT we have ever had that was any good. Just got to where he was banged up all the time.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Seth Payne was okay.
I don’t remember him doing anything great. Just average.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I don't think he got enough credit when he was healthy
He kept Foreman and Sharper pretty clean and helped them put up some big tackle #’s. Which is exactly how the defense was designed. Still I remember thinking how much we would miss him every time he got hurt. Never did anything spectacular. Just clogged things up in the middle and held his ground.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Talking about old texans D makes me weep.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Oh, man!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
remember those first years
When they were respectable…maybe even bordering on good occasionally? Of course some of those memories are likely skewed by all the sucking on a giant bag of dicks our offense did in those days.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
The nightmare of watching them try to run the ball
And then Carr getting sacked….
{{{{Shivers}}}}
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 24, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I still remember that Steelers game where they won with no help from the offense
I hope this defense can get close to that
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 25, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
aaron glenn with the first pick six of the franchise.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
No, we had Seth Payne at NT
Travis was supposed to play end, opposite of Gary Walker. There were justifications for it, but none at the same time. /Casserly’d
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Wasn't Odom playing DE already opposite of Walker?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Wow... drawing a blank.
Honestly cannot remember an Odom.
Maybe another justification for drafting a replacement in the first round? Or I’m just an idiot. Or both.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Bud Light, man.
Drowning your brain cells by the millions.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Yes. That one.
He registered a couple of sacks. Along with Orr and Peek. Yes, i’m aware that they played LB.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Black out drunk from Bud Lights.
And it was awesome, I’m sure.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
The Travis Johnson Curse.
No DT will ever find success with the Houston Texans. Planetoid or not.
When I think about our problems with the DT position, Travis Johnson pops up in my head with a trollface smile.
So I just blame it on him.
You ask me why? Because it doesn’t make any sense not to.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
It was a
“Rip throwing the most outrageous statements out there, just to see which one sticks” trollface smile.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on May 24, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty familiar with that, eh?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on May 24, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can't hate Travis
For no other reason than he served as inspiration for some of my favorite fake conversations.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Travis johnson
Should be reincarnated as hemroids. He isn’t even on the team and he is a pain in our ass
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
by AllenOU on May 24, 2011 4:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I have a funny story about
hemorrhoids (correct spelling).
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
can you spell " go fuck yourself" #sarcasm
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
by AllenOU on May 25, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I went to the doc to get checked up
Little asian lady. No problem. But, I knew I was in trouble when she kicked out a stool and stepped up on it to get more leverage….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on May 25, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hemorrhoids and funny do not seem to go together
Just sayin
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
by Barryfromtexas on May 25, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
"Hemorrhoids" to the tune of "Yesterday"
Hemorrhoids…
Burning asshole means its hemorrhoids…
Sitting down I think I shall avoid…
I really hate these hemorrhoids…
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on May 26, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
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