2011 NFL Draft: New Texans Discuss And Are Discussed
The mothership has pressers up with and/or about the Texans draftees picked in Rounds Two through Seven. Instead of deluging you with FanShots, I figured I'd combine 'em all into one post, with a few selected nuggets highlighted. Hit the jump, and let's see what Brooks Reed, Brandon Harris, Rashad Carmichael, Shiloh Keo, T.J. Yates, Derek Newton, and Cheta Ozougwu had to say about becoming Houston Texans.
(on playing on the strong side in a 3-4 defense) "I always played on the right side. I didn’t play on the strength. Depending on the offensive scheme, I could have lined up on the strong side. I have done a little bit of both, strong and weak side. I’m up for it. I guess we will see. I’m sure I will transition well as a linebacker. It’s something I am looking forward to."
Reggie Herring, on Brooks Reed:
(on how LB Connor Barwin fits in with Brooks Reed) "Oh man. You talk about exciting. When you make a transformation from a 4-3 to a 3-4, it’s dramatic now. The outside ‘backer position is totally different than defensive end even though they’ll be dropped to defensive end on third downs and rush. At the end of the day, a Connor Barwin, who I liked when I was at Dallas, the upside and potential that he has, the speed off the edge with the length and the height and the range, he’s oozing with potential and things that hopefully we’ll get to a point that y’all haven’t seen yet out of him. He’s still a puppy in my eyes. He’s still a rookie to me.
"With him on the outside with his speed and burst and you’ve got this guy on the other side with speed and a twitch, it gives us multiple things to do with Mario (Williams). Y’all haven’t even asked the question yet, but at the end of the day, it gives us flexibility and I’ll go ahead and address it. It gives you potential moves within your own core system, which we didn’t have when we first got here three months ago. This is a great start for our foundation in our 3-4. When you throw in the other pieces that we already have, you’ve got a lot of young, speed, anxious, hungry football players that can’t wait to get to work. This is a good start for us. Those two guys outside is a good start."
(on his biggest strength) "My versatility - the fact that I can play inside and outside at the corner spot and being able to tackle as well as being able to play off the man-to-man coverage and just adjusting to different things off the fly, and having a football IQ to play fast at a high level."
Vance Joseph, on Brandon Harris:
(on what jumps off the film about Harris) "When you watch this kid play, he plays like a five- or six-year NFL vet. His route recognition, his football IQ, was very, very high. When you meet the kid, he’s energetic. He’s a pro already. He’s going to fit right in. This kid, I’m excited about his future because his pro-ready from a mindset point of view. He’s played a lot of football. He’s played in the slot. He’s played outside. He’s played against top competition, so I don’t see a problem for him coming here and playing."
All the Day 3 picks had a joint conference call; the entire transcript is here. Some notable quotes:
Roc Carmichael:
(on how he got his nickname) "That was from day one. I was young, my grandma’s family would call me ‘Rah’ then they would say ‘Rah-Rah,’ then one day when I was three years old my dad just ended it and said, ‘No more Rah-Rah. Just Rock.’ Then in elementary school, I used to write Rock on my papers until I finally got in trouble for it. That’s always been around for me."
Shiloh Keo:
(on the Texans’ 3-4 defense) "I think I’ll fit in really well. I’m the type of safety that’s ready to come up in the box and make plays. I played under the 3-4 system at the University of Idaho and went through three different coaching staffs and that was one of the defenses we went with. I have some experience with it. I think they can look at me as the type of guy they could even throw in as an outside linebacker. I am looking forward to it. I can’t wait."
T.J. Yates:
(on what specifically is similar between Carolina’s offense and Houston’s) "It’s kind of hard to put it in generic terms, but just the route patterns and the passing schemes and everything. It’s very similar. We took a lot of what the Texans did last year and a couple years ago and implemented them into our offense and kind of made it our own way. We based a lot from the Texans."
Derek Newton:
(on what the Texans staff has said to him) "That I could be a big help to the team and they’re ready to get me in to go to work."
Cheta Ozougwu:
(on whether he had any communication with the Texans before the Draft) "Yes, I have. I worked out with them during the local workout. I was actually coached by Coach (Texans Defensive Coordinator Wade) Phillips at the East-West Shrine Game. We developed a relationship there. He’s a great coach. I was actually hoping they would pick me up. Everything works out for the best. I hung in there. It was a long way, but I’m just glad they gave me an opportunity."
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To finish this draft class out
Go get a FA Veteran Corner and Safety. Im thinking Mike Sims Walker to round out opposite Andre. 
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:07 PM CDT reply actions
Yes, if there is one thing the D is definitely missing right now, it's veteran leadership
If they can find a high-character vet out there for their secondary who wants to come in, contribute in games, on the practice field and in the locker room; I think that would be the crowning piece to their off-season.
The other variables will hopefully take care of themselves, such as getting Mario Williams situated into his role in the this 3-4. Getting the LBs playing as a dominant unit. Figuring out the D-line rotation. Finding out if last year’s injured players will be ready for the start of the season. The list goes on. Most of it focuses on the D.
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Endless
Sounds like Mario will be the move around guy, but be apart of their base package. The Texans have improved their depth with these additions to defense.
There are many possibilities on the free agent market especially in the secondary.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Mario is one of their best athletes
I feel certain that Wade will find ways to keep his best players on the field as much as possible. He has already said that he will show multiple schemes. Mario is excellent at both run stuffing and edge rushing, so Wade will set him up to succeed. He can line up at DE in 3-4 or 4-3 and 3-4 OLB with pass rushing responsibility.
I am excited at the prospect of finally having a REAL DC after suffering through Dick & Bush for 4 years (or was it 5?). Well either way, thankfully we finally have a creative leader in charge. He just drafted a fresh crop of talent that will make us better. Add a couple of FA’s and we could have a decent defense.
It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are due to get to the big dance...Go Texans!!!!!
by oiler-texan diehard on May 4, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
JJ offers much more explosiveness compared to Sims-Walker
Sims-Walker is just average in my book. I don’t know the circumstances surrounding him being cut. Was it a falling out with the coaches or payroll savings. I don’t know and because JJ is here and offers some intangibles, I’m with you AllenOU.
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JJ
JJ is a joke, potential but played only when it doesn’t count.All I can think about is him dropping the touchdown against the Ravens on MNF.
MSW 14 touchdown catches in the past two years in a run oriented offense in JAX.
JJ brings alot of bark but not bite. Keep him for our returns, if need be, and move to a 3rd or 4th receiver.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
i would like to get MSW but everybody seem to chew my head off at first.
I mean the dude was a starter for the jags so i mean we can use him he must do some good downfield blocking for MJD to be breaking away.
Actually, I'd rather not see JJ on returns unless we're really in trouble.
And I’m going off of memory, but didn’t JJ have a touchdown AND a 2 pt conversion later in that same Ravens game, as we were trying to mount a comeback? I remember some crucial drops from Jacoby too, but not everyone can be Andre Johnson, and he’s not a bad #3 in my opinion.
In fact, name me some teams that have a better #3 WR. Packers and Colts are the only ones that leap to mind. (Jones and Collie/Gonzales/White respectively). You could say Patriots and Chargers, Edelman and Crayton respectively, but I’m not sure either one is much better than Jacoby without seeing them in an expanded role. I’m sure there’s a few others, but not many.
This is not to say that I don’t consider a WR a need, but not a pressing one in my mind.
Sims-Walker is a cancer
no thanks. Oh and he breaks alot.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
MSW
That is why he needs a new change on scenery, plus he will have two times a year where he can stick it to his old team. I am all for it.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me say this too
Do you think Dallas really want to pay Roy willams this year, and if they cut him or trade should we be first in line for his services?
Math Problem
MSW > Roy Williams.
No go for Roy in Houston, IMO. Roy is lazier than MSW. Hell I would take Jacoby over Roy.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed with Patrick
I am not a Roy Williams fan and he’s going to demand crazy money/trade value.
Roy
You think he wants to leave Texas? Every time he scores he throws that damn Longhorn sigh up, he wants to stay in Dallas.

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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
^^^^^^^^^^
Agree with Tony
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
but i dn't think they want to pay him the 9 million he is owed.
i might be wrong. And Jerry will throw the money at him. But i think they want to let Dez and Miles take over now.
Roy
He can be the tallest slot receiver in the NFL then. As long as he doesn’t end up here.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Roy
Then he can run a 1 yard hitch.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
He's one of those UT products
I would pass up on. My friend’s father is a huge cowboys fan and even he said that the money they paid him was not worth it. Said he was lazy, gave up on plays and just seemed out of place.
UT Products
Orakpo, Griffin (Titans)…thats all I can think of.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I would take Huff
he isn’t all world but not a bad option
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I was high on Aaron Williams this year.
Brian Orakpo is another good one.
Forgot
Casey Hampton
"Kenny your a knucklehead." -Charles Barkley
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Still scared of the Suh/Fairley combo...
What a steal pick for Detroit….
Mm-hmm Their secondary still blows
Linebackers aren’t anything too special
"Lord, beer me strength."
Yeah...
I’d just do screens and play actions against them. Wouldn’t risk letting the QB staying in the pocket too long.
Its not hard...
To pick Nick Fairley when everyone passes on him, read the biggest knock on him is that he is not too bright.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Auburn..
basically let him run free. Was barely coached and the coaches just let him loose without any guidance. Monster player when he wants to be though.
Detroit is doing
a good job finally
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Earl Thomas
75 Total Tackles 5 interceptions
"Kenny your a knucklehead." -Charles Barkley
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Very good rookie year.
Especially considering the God-awful secondary the Seahawks had surrounding him.
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by UprootedTexan on May 3, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Said this without reading further where his name was said.
wanted him bad last year.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
In other Dallas news...
Tony Romo is trying to qualify for the US Open….. Seriously, how is this guy still a QB in the league….
No CBA, dude
He can do whatever he wants. I say “Go for it, Tony!” I hope he gets in. I’ll be watching.
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Considering Matt Shaub, Drew Brees and other QB's...
are running their own training camps??
No worries
Evidently he can do both. Organize workouts and play golf.
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Think about it this way.
The more stupid non-QB crap he does, the longer the Cowfarts (makes more sense than Cowturds, since turds have some kind of substance to them) will continue to suck.
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by UprootedTexan on May 3, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope. Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma City Plunder delenda est.
by UprootedTexan on May 3, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
naw, let Roy go to the Titans
He’s overrated and he’ll have no one worth a crap throwing to him, at least not right away. Perfect for the Titans, I hope they DO get him.
totally fine w/ Roy Williams
I just think we need that “possession” receiver. That Desean Jackson/Jordan Shipley type. But, I’d totally settle for Roy.
Is everyone forgetting about Walter?
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by WhimpyJimmy on May 3, 2011 8:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Obviously.
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He did last year
for at least 3 games
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by Barryfromtexas on May 3, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering why this was...
Seriously K-dub is a possession Receiver… maybe not a speed guy but comeon
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haha, ya i guess you guys have a point
but I guess when you see those lil quick wide receivers, you just assume that’s the biggest need of the Texans. Walter is rock solid. Very true.
Crazy is crazy
A change of scenery won’t help. We can do just as well finding another mid-priced WR on the scrap like we did with KW.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 4, 2011 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions
If we knew that normal FA rules applied (4 years as opposed to 6) and that Uncle Bob would spend
I’d be all over Sidney Rice.
That said, my free agents would be CB + Eric Weddle.
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Eric Weddle
Been reading some about Eric Weddle and seen that he is a suspect tackler. What is your overall thought on him? I know he comes from a 3-4 scheme in San Diego, just need more info before I make an honest opinion on him.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He's young (26 IIRC), a SS who can drop into coverage
I don’t think he’s a bad tackler…wish I had PFF (hint, hint bfd) to see how many missed tackles he has.
Still, he averages 90 tackles, a sack, and about 8 plays on the ball (PDs & INTs) a season…..that’s the kind of SS I wouldn’t complain about and someone who would fit in well with Wade’s scheme since he can be viewed as a hybrid. He and Quin, with Nolan and Keo as back-ups, would turn safety from a joke to….arguably the defense’s strength.
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FS
So Quin is the free safety with all of the draft picks and signings?
I guess I see Glover as a strong safety, good tackler. I am concerned he has enough range to cover sideline to sideline. Need someone that has long strides that can cover some ground.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not a guy who makes a play and you go "Ooooooo"
but he’s a solid player. Basically can contribute against both the pass and run.
I have not been a big fan of weddle.
with that said i really don’t have enough info on him to say yay or nay.
Well if you compare him to the legends Houston's played at safety....
Too easy. Hell, what wouldn’t be an upgrade at safety?
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Mop and road cone are disappoint...
y no give them respect?
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Hmmm
I think Sensabaugh fits especially since he is a Wade Phillips boy. Alan Ball? he is younger, i try to stay away from watching the Cowboys.
What about
Brodney Pool? He is from Houston and is an Oklahoma product and coming from a 3-4 scheme in NYJ.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I know he played for Wade and all but just wondering.
If weddle is all good like everybody here is saying then he might want to get paid. So if that is the case i don’t want him. Hey pool sounds good i would not mind him.
Didn't the Dallas secondary get torched last year?
Not as bad as us but they were not good either.
Gerald
I know Gerald had a raise in interceptions last year with the ’Boys. Sensabaugh would be a plug and play player. Could teach the secondary about the system since he has already played under Wade.
Would be opposed to him signing with Houston.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?!?!
Horrible in the locker room, no big play ability, and the Glitter Kitties fans couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. 18 of his 43 receptions last year came in two games, meaning 25 for the other 14. Five drops in 48 attempts compared to seven drops in 58 attempts for JJ, but the latter had only one in the 2nd half of the season.
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JJ
You can have him…..Take my chances with MSW.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
MSW
Also can’t do ANY of the secondary things we ask of our WR2s like block.
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I don't think the Texans are looking for a WR2.
They’ll keep Walter because he can block decent for a WR. They are probably in the market for a WR4/5 type guy. I imagine they’d use Anderson as a WR3 if they really didn’t trust Jacoby enough but I’m doubting they would try to replace Walter with somebody who’s more fragile and doesn’t block.
ya, ur right
I don’t believe they’re going to address WR at the moment. They should resign Jacoby, mix in Dickerson, and OD is comin back as well. Really, it’s not a big issue for us right now.
Best part: Reggie Herring.
Dude sounds like a LB coach. Sounds like he knows what he’s doing.
/LB Lust
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by LoneSpot on May 3, 2011 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Reggie Herring
Sounds like he took a jab at the previous defensive staff with this comment about Barwin: “..he’s oozing with potential and things that hopefully we’ll get to a point that y’all haven’t seen yet out of him.”
I like some Reggie Herring.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a fair criticism, because we didn't see him on the field much that first season
I think they brought him along slowly and then in the 2nd season, they had no chance to get him on the field.
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Agreed
Reggie likes everything about Barwin and even back in his Cowboys days as a coach liked what he saw. That says something, doesn’t it?
I know Barwin was a key piece in last year’s D, hopefully this year it will all come together.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like the exact same things Frank Bush said his first season.
Enthusiasm =/= competence. Captain buzz-kill, signing off.
The way he talks about Barwin arouses me.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 4, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Brandon Harris a rock
Will be are starting CBs by year three, with kareem as the nickle and eveyone else gone
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MOUNT CODY
Would have been a nice fit

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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Cody would have been a breast this year coming up.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
by DaGoaT on May 3, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Cody
Yes he would have. When him and Ngata are on the field at once for the Ravens it is ridiculous.
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by Patrick D. Starr on May 3, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I always wondered why he didn't do the Bench Press last year at the combine..
..I don’t think that tit fat translates into many reps of 225lbs B)
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I just saw a pic of a girl in what appears to be a pool of piss, or budweiser. Either way I nearly barfed.
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Those boobs
Are clearly fake.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 4, 2011 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Dan Williams
One of the top NTs and already well-above-average as a run stopper. But, hey, we got Kareem.
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by bigfatdrunk on May 3, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh...
Don’t remind me of Kareem…. I want to hope he’ll be better but I still question why we had him rated as a CB to get at #20….
Penzance?
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by UprootedTexan on May 4, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
The amount of cushion he allowed
Was just outstanding.
Needs more nose tackle.
are we talking about Kareem or Cody?
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by BattleRedHusker on May 4, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Who, Williams???
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I can't believe
We passed on jermey kurley for tj yates…
by Carter Liles on May 3, 2011 5:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I like the idea of Barwin covering the TEs
I wonder since he added a lot of bulk to his frame is he still as fast?
by Its Gonna Happen on May 3, 2011 5:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Lance Z seems to think it'll probably be the other way around.
With Reed on the strongside. That puts my mind at ease; Barwin can be a double-digit sack guy at WOLB; Reed, probably not.
I have less confidence in a transitioned DE
Coming in and covering. I like Barwin rushing (if his ankle is healed) but I think his speed could be great against the pass and has the size to play the run. I’m not that up on what Reed is capable of though, would he be another Diles/Abidi in coverage?
PS I like Sharpton a lot, even if he is small
by Its Gonna Happen on May 3, 2011 9:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If he's smart he'll wait to sign until after the lockout
If he doesn’t have any offers still, he could then go to the UFL.
by Patrick Harrel on May 3, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
I think it’s a contingency thing, which is a smart move.
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Worst case scenario....
He blows it up and goes from signing a minimum contract to having teams bid for his services. I root for the guy, hope he blows up the UFL and gets every single penny he can.
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So are we
moving Quin to FS for sure?
Cuz I don’t see that position improved in the least to this point.
I know we have problems all over, but we drafted our 4th QB and some security for the all important swing tackle position before we decided on a starting FS.
the tenth time is a charm
Seems like they're gonna make that move
And pretty much every reporter is saying they’ll go after a veteran #1 CB…..including making a serious run at Asomugha.
Some writers are even talking that they may make a run at the SS.
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I think it is highly dependent on whether we sign a veteran CB
If we do, there is no doubt we move GQ to FS since that’s what the press conferences and quotes from the coaches/GM indicate.
We're not getting Asomugha.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 4, 2011 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably not
Especially when Dallas, Philadelphia, and Washington are also the other teams who are likely to make a run at him….but they’re shooting for the best, can’t fault them for that.
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You know what
If Asomugha fits into the budget, I can see him making the decision to come to Houston. Wade Phillips has a great rep as a DC, the Texans drafted well, and they need that last piece… a veteran CB to put them over the top on their development. The D is only going to get better, IMO. They are young and talented, and in spite of the naysayers, they will be improving throughout this upcoming season. I truly believe that and that isn’t blind fandom talking. They are building well through the draft. They filled a lot of holes with talented young players. They will get better and I have trust that Wade will bring them together as they mature. I am super pumped! Okay, that was blind fandom…..
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i tell you what.
When Phillips was in san diego he had a first look at scrabble twice a year fro 3 years i think. He saw the guy and maybe he can convice FO to get him. I was going over scrabble career and he only has 11 ints . I know teams don’t throw his way may have something to do with it but is he really that good? i mean he is better then anybody on our team right now but would willing to pay a guy who rarely gets target in a game. We need a game changer and yes i know people going to say he cuts the field in half which i understand but to be only getting 1 int a year is not doing much for me. To tell you the truth i would wonder if he would not mind moving to safety to prolong his career.
Many say he is THE best, better than Revis
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don't get me wrong revis is good and all but it's the system.
i bet if revis was here when we had the carpet D we all would be talkng down on him too. Anyways i agree nnamdi is better then revis, only thing is where revis is and where nnamdi has been.
LOL
are you serious? How can you overpay for a guy who completely blacks out one half of the field?
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I'd have to agree with Bobby here
I’m more of the type who wants a black out half than more INT. This offense has enough ways to score minus the INT.
hey i am jsut saying it might be more to it.
don’t get me wrong if we get him i will be happy then a motherfucker but i am all so looking at not breaking the bank either.
I agree with you that
I’m quite cautious of this organization too when it comes to shelling out money for a FA especially of Nnamdi’s caliber. I’m more of a skeptic than an optimist when it comes to how this organization is run. I would cry tears of joy if we sign Nnamdi.
He could play safety
but I think you keep one of the top 2 CB’s at the position he got his creds from.
I think that would be like
using the Sistine chapel to host a rave, I mean sure you could do it, but it would be wrong.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
ok what about this
Bills GM Buddy Nix strongly indicated on a radio show Monday that the team has no intentions of retaining free agent SS Donte Whitner.
“Donte Whitner I don’t think wants to be here, and he probably won’t,” Nix said. That’s about as close to confirmation an NFL team will give. The Bills’ moves already indicated they intend to move on, re-signing George Wilson and drafting Da’Norris Searcy, another “box” safety. Whitner, 26 in July, was the eighth overall pick in the 2006 draft out of Ohio State. He’ll appeal to teams that value safeties who play the run effectively.
we have those types of safieties, and l'd think Wade prefers coverage guys
though schemes can change with the enviornment
does Whitner play well in coverage?
He
gets about an interception per year, gets a lot of tackles and has forced a few fumbles. I haven’t seen him play though so I dunno how he got all of those stats.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Just a random thought,
But how many Int’s did the rest of the Raiders tally over the last few years?
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
I think it comes down to...
what you value more? Turnovers or having half of the field negated?
That is the question
us as fans what do we value? i look at Nnmadi and he has low number of tackles too, cant count last year cause he was hurt. Only 34 and 1 int.
and both stats rise proportionately with more opportunities
which the new Texans pass rush might provide
isnt Scrabble a good man to man corner? if so, our FO has to be salivating
And also considering he was only thrown at 33 times........
in the 2010-2011 season along with 6 pass defensed….. I’d say QB’s will definitely try to go tot he side where Nnamdi is not playing if he came to Houston. They’d attack the half with the young CB.
And
that would also be the half with the less talented WR, so you would have our young CB against a #2. That makes a big difference.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Huge difference
Could make the young CB look like an all-pro with the amount of opportunities that CB would get with INT and pass defense.
I think he uses zone coverage more
and relies heavily on the rush to create less opportunities for the long ball.
Besides that team being in disarray...
Newman’s getting kinda old…
actually, l think Wade tends to prefer man coverage
though everyone’s safeties tend to play lots of zone
Well if he is that bad
there are two new guys who might step up, also as I pointed out, he will be better based on having the better pass rush and possibly actually having safeties this year not to mention how much not having a defensive scheme that called for him to drop back 15 yards on every play can help him out.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Not always
but with the improved pass rush, he shouldn’t have to cover his man as long as he had to last season, so it will be an improvement at least.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
@Tony Ung
How do we know KJ cant play man? Seems all we ever asked him to do was play a short zone. Predictably.
Who knows
but from what I saw last season, I’m not gonna put my money on it. If he pans out, great, if he doesn’t, I wouldn’t be surprised. I know that the learning curve for a CB from year 1 to year 2 is a huge difference so there should be improvements but I was never sold on KJ as a 1st round pick.
Half the field negated
No one really throws his way.
Plus, he doesn’t need safety help….which allows coverage to roll and help Jackson more…..as opposed to last season where our safeties couldn’t help anyone.
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last season they were safeties in name only
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They were more liabilities than safeties
We had the Slow Liability and the Coverage Liability.
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Yes he is that good.
When a QB cannot throw to one side of the field it hinders their game a lot. He’s been doing that for the Raiders with their terrible pass rush for awhile now. He’s huge, fast, his arms are gigantic, and he has no problem staying with any kind of receiver he has to cover. He’s also a very solid tackler.
I think Aso’s body of work is more impressive than Revis just because of who he’s had around him and what kind of coaching he’s gotten.
could he now have you seen him play against peyton?
man i just looked at some games against peyton and peyton totally ignored his side the whole time pretty much.
Yeah that's
the point, if he ignores scrabbles side of the field while facing a tough pass rush, it’s gonna be a long day for him.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
True but also on that film he was getting the ball out.
Making completions is peyton thing. he has his mind made up before he hikes the ball i think sometimes.
That's why he is the best
Really what you hope for it to make his day as hard as possible, and with a strong pass rush and only half of the field available, it would be a very long day for him.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately for Aso
The rest of the Raiders defense is pretty bad besides Seymour and McClain. Huff is an okay safety and Routt is certainly better than any CB2 we’ve had but his team doesn’t do much to help him out.
You're right
But if we did it would completely change the way I thought about the Texans. So yeah, not going to happen.
Needs more nose tackle.
Ints are so over rated
Look at dangelo hall, he had tons of picks. And he sucks
by AllenOU on May 4, 2011 9:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No
I would not want him. Commands too much money and is overrated.
No I would not
He isn’t a good player. Pro bowl scmowl bowl. VY made a pro bowl. My cock could make the pro bowl.
Kareem will be better than hall this year
by AllenOU on May 4, 2011 10:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm thinking we should have drafted it.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Since we're talking AllenOU, there's probably some redundancy there, too
Just in case there’s an injury, got a back-up ready to go in…
/ba-dum, tshhhhh!
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The one problem with
drafting it is that I wouldn’t want to have to refer to it as “Mr. Irrelevant” and I like all of our other picks.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
okay this is getting strange, even by our standards
you wouldn’t want to call Allen’s dick “irrelevant”? TMI
I don't know about you, but I certainly
wouldn’t want anyone calling my dick irrelevant.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
How is he in coverage, though?
Some experience certain performance issues then….
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not sure exactly
though, since he’s a “Sooner” does that tell us anything abot its performance?
by Cut Block on May 4, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
even if that's the case
two a days will take care of that.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
With Wade's hands-on coaching
I’m sure he could be coached up
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What the hell is going on here???
by Carter Liles on May 4, 2011 11:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I hear he's better at "man to man"
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
by Hydroshock on May 4, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
We need to rec hydro's and CB's comments.
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by Carter Liles on May 4, 2011 11:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far
but yes, every team would lik eto have him, so its not like it’ll be easy to sign him.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Honestly
Our offense is better than Dallas and Washington, maybe not philly. But why not come anchor a team with a top 5 offense when you can be the piece that completes the D.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
Scrabble
would instantly make the Texans a super bowl contender. Not saying we would get there, but we would certainly be favorites to.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And
I think that if he actually does sign here that will be the reason he made his decision, he could finally be on a team going somewhere.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
not really
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
yeah, the puzzle gets pretty close to being complete at that point
l imagine we’d be as balanced a team as anyone. Still pretty young, but young/inexperienced teams have won Super Bowls before.
HAHAHA
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 4, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not?
I find it odd that the people who disagree have no stated reasons for disagreement. Simply saying no isn’t a very good argument. I will gladly provide you with reasons why I believe that adding scrabble to the Texans would make them super bowl contenders, give me your reasons you disagree. I think that since the Texans already have one of the best offenses in the league, and have drastically improved their pass rush, adding a CB who blacks out one whole half of the field would give them at a minimum an above average defense. As far as I am concerned, any team with one of the best offenses and an above average defense is a contender.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I think the thought was that you made him laugh out loudly!
The “no” was probably more of about just being a disbeliever, as in someone who will believe it when he sees it.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
The offense is good but it's not best in the league.
For all it’s talent and ability to hang a jillion points in 4 minutes, it’s still Kubiaks offense and it’s still prone to shutting itself down for no reason at all. Also, the defense is bad enough that I doubt we’d go much north of average in one shortened offseason.
The worrying thing about an Aso deal is that we could get him here, and our pass rush could be just as anemic as ever even with his help. We need somebody else besides Mario to get close to double digit sacks and right now we are relying on a guy coming back from a gnarly injury and a rookie.
Because the Texans are still about three or four players away from even being a playoff contender.
Much less a Super Bowl contender. And that’s just in the secondary. Adding a cornerback, even one as good as Scrabble, isn’t going to put them over the hump.
As much as people have been going on about the addition of Brooks Reed and JJ Watt, our front seven will include one player coming back from a possible career-ending injury, another player who spent the entire last season on IR and a third player who hasn’t been nearly the same since he was caught trying to improve the size of his balls.
Oh, and they’re under a new defensive coordinator and will switch to a completely new base defense this year.
Our secondary consists of one second-year player who might have been one of the worst cb’s in football, one player who could charitably be considered average, the rotting corpse of an Irish sailor and a brain in a jar of formaldehyde.
So, no, I don’t think signing Scrabble is going to turn us into a Super Bowl contender. Sure, it will improve our defense, but so would exchanging brain in a jar for a ten-year old kid on a skateboard. We still have a lot more to improve after that.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 5, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
l'm not sure there's some threshhold for superstar players on your roster
that either holds you back from being a contender, nor makes you one
they improve as a unit; we improve as a team… maybe the job starts getting done
No doubt.
What I’m saying is that we have so many unknowns on our roster that there is no way anybody could conclusively say that “all we need is player x and we will be a Super Bowl contender.”
In fact, considering how many people get hurt in an average NFL season, superstars are less important than squad depth.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 6, 2011 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah... true
But you may not have an argument, if Player X happens to be Chuck Norris or Patrick Willis.
No argument there
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 6, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
So how do you explain a team like Tampa Bay?
It’s not like they’re loaded.
I can’t explain it using your criteria. They had turmoil of coaches. New players. Losing players. They came together and made the playoffs.
I’m not asking for the Super Bowl.
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Have no explanation.
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by tehGrindCrusher on May 7, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
as long
as there isn’t a sophomore slump, and as long as he can be as dominant without Leach. I’m hopeful that he can still be awesome next year and maybe Ben Tate can contribute something as well.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
From just the way the draft went
we will be signing Leach. I think Leach just got super paranoid and started to speak his mind based on anxiety. I’ll call it now, Leach will be suiting up in a Texans uniform this year.
Arian is no fluke
I’d be perfectly comfortable with Arian and another FB, though l think l prefer Leach. Though he’s getting older.
I wasn't trying to
call him a fluke, just that he has to do it more than once before I start to expect it.
by Bobbythegreat on May 4, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Even if he was a fluke
I think Tate, Ward and possibly a UDFA body or even Slaton could probably carry the load if they had to. The part I’m worried about, in terms of a running game slump, is the interior of our line not playing out of their minds like they did last year.
Technically.
That was his sophomore year.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
That's 13 times
more than I have.
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