Mario Williams will play OLB
by was385 on May 5, 2011 8:38 AM CDT
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McClain says that Phillips will use Mario as the weakside OLB, which if we've taken anything from his defenses with Ware in Dallas, means he'll be a stand up DE moving all around the line. I just can't wait for that first time when a TE ends up staring down a charging Mario one on one.
Guess this means Antonio and JJ are starting and Barwin/Reed are competing for the SOLB spot.
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Oh,
and I see all the names you listed above getting plenty of playing time, rotating, for situation or for rest. Although, when it comes to rest, I hope they can all be getting it at the same time on the sideline because they gave the ball back to the offense….
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Fresh Legs for all the big fellas...:)
IF our DT can hold their own and we get our veteran corner. It definately looks good on paper.
Don't ask me! Ask Google, you dumb Yahoo!
Nothing is set in stone...
Until we get into training camp and Wade gets a chance to see these guys in different roles first-hand, it’s all speculation at this point.
I hope this is what happens.
Could Reed or Barwin play inside if Demeco isn’t able to come back al the way?
Texas. Gods favorite country.
Why?
That wouldn’t make since to make DE converts and turn them into an ILB,I mean that really would hurt us more then help unless we constantly blitz the inside and outside guy which….Yeah makes no sense..
1017
Just a thought.
I don’t pretend to know much more about football than the rules. I asked because most people are just assuming Ryans is going to be 100% with no problems. Thought maybe if one of these guys do well they could slide inside for some downs to keep Ryans from breaking again. But what do i know i am just a casual texans fanatic i know nothing about where players should play or will play.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
It's unlikely.
Barwin and Reed are both DE converts; it’s already questionable how they’ll transition to OLB in the 3-4, which is even more similar to DE. Barwin might have the athletic attributes for it, but his best asset seems to be as a pass-rusher, so it wouldn’t be utilizing his skill-set. Reed is probably more of a thumper against the run, but might lack the quickness to play inside.
If Pancakes said it, then it's not happening
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
I think its pretty obvious he's reporting on what Wade Phillips told him
rather than speculating on his own (which is where he’s always wrong). So this is very likely.
Just playing around with lineups I could see
SOLB: Barwin
WOLB: Reed
NT: Mitchell
DE: Smith
DE: Mario
with Mario at SOLB
SOLB: Mario
WOLB: Reed
NT: Cody/Okoye
DE: MItchell/Okoye
DE:Smith
maybe even my guy Bulman gets some time at SOLB
SOLB: Bulman
WOLB:Barwin/Reed
NT:Mitchell
DE:Mario
DE:Smith
There are tons of other combos you could do. I love the flexibility !!!!
I was focused on who would play NT and OLB
and just overlooked Watt. I see him more at DE, even though they say he gets snaps at NT. And I still like Mario and Smith better there as starters. But definitely if Mario is at SOLB
SOLB: Mario
WOLB:Barwin/Reed
NT:Cody/Okoye/Watt
DE:Watt/Mitchell
DE: Smith/Okoye
I think on passing downs it could look more like this
DE: Mario
DT: Watt
DT: Smith
DE: Barwin
OLB: Reed
ILB: Ryans
ILB: Cushing
Mario with his hand on the ground and Barwin standing up on the line.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
what is this?
The scout team DL formation?
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
you dont like?
i mean what 3-4 teams d-lineman do we really know to do anything but take up blocks. cant forget about smith i guess you put him where mitchell would be then.
Don't understand why you'd have Okoye, Cody, and Mitchell
When you have Reed and Barwin on the bench. For a passing down, just doesn’t make much sense to me.
guess I just don't understand why in a passing down
You’d want to go bigger and slower up front instead of putting Mario/Watt/Smith or some combo like that up there and having barwin and reed coming off the edges.
I assumed that's what you meant
the OP you responded to said “I think on passing downs it could look more like this”. Yeah, that makes a little more sense if you’re talking about a starting lineup, though I just don’t see any way Watt is playing OLB and Smith isn’t starting at DE.
That doesn't mean they're not needed
Yea 3-4 linemen don’t usually get a lot of sacks or tackles because they’re primarily paving the way for the LBs, but that doesn’t mean it’s not an important job in the defense. Heck, in the 3-4 those 3 defensive linemen are probably THE most important players on the defense. Without 3 at least nearly dominant down linemen, the 3-4 will get gouged up the gut on runs forcing the ILBs up and consequently the defense getting burned on 10 yard passes in the middle of the field.
Just because some teams have made the 3-4 look good in recent years, it can also be an epically poor defense without the proper roster. If two of our best defensive players is on our front 3… then I say GOOD, now we’re sounding like a proper 3-4 defense.
who me?
I didnt list any ILB’s at all…figure those will be Cush and (hopefully) Meco
What I really love
is that any of these or none might be what they put out there. I love what they have done with the front 7
It will be very hard to scheme for us
And we can look for mismatches against specific OL guys.
It's pretty dynamic what Smithiakips have done through the draft and the scheme change
I’m still waiting for Rivers to address in some detail, Mario’s possible roles in the D in this scheme and with the incoming rookies.
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I was hoping you would go for the record
and I was going to reply to each one, lol
I thought about
making the exact same reply that I did the first time
This helps make good sense of drafting JJ Watt.
We could actually have a pretty incredible front 7 with this setup.
It will be this on week 1.
DE- Mario
DE- JJ
NT- Mitchell
SOLB- Barwin
WOLB- Reed
ILB- DeMeco
ILB- Cushing
This assuming we dont upgrade at NT.
I think we see a lot of that
But I wouldnt expect to see a rook start over Antonio on opening day
hmm
this is going to be a interesting situation, what Wade does with Mario
really loved your guys draft, JJ Watt Brooks Reed Brandon Harris Roc Carmichael
thats a great f’n draft guys
im just surprised you didnt go after a NT, Im assuming Wade is going to use Okoye like Ratliff
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
Mitchell and Cody are the designated NTs
Opinion differs on how that will work out.
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Okoye
Especially since, for Wade’s system, Okoye is the best NT on the roster.
But we resigned Cody! WHEEE!! It’s OK that he sucks, because we know he sucks!, so we have to re-sign him. #logicFAIL
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just from my experience with Wade
he is going to toy with Okoye at NT, he likes athletic NT’s
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 5, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know Chia
I still like Mario at NT…..
With the 9th Pick Dallas Selects Tyron Smith...Romo Weeps in Joy, and Bennet says"I might get to go out in the Pass Pattern now!"
by I am Ironman!!! on May 6, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Mitchell will be a nice NT actualy
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 5, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't see why people are so high on Mitchell
I really don’t remember him playing anything but average last year. I could see Watt and Smith combining for more snaps at tackle than Mitchell and Okoye.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Coaches like him
That’s good enough for me, for now.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
This is funny,
someone I worked w/ just today mentioned that he expected Wade to get a whole hell of allot more out of Okoye.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Thanks
I think the general consensus is that most people thought we had a good draft but it’s always nice to hear it from a cowboys fan nonetheless. And to see what Mario is capable of while standing on the WOLB position really makes me excited to see how he does. I remember seeing Mario dropping back in coverage several times last season and because of his 6’7" frame, he’s able to raise his arms to deflect passes. Of course, most of he time, we’ll see him rush the QB from the LB position.
im dead serious
the Texans had one of the best drafts in the NFL
I am a huuuuuuuuuge Brandon Harris JJ Watt Roc Carmichael fan
you got a disruptive five tech DE, which the Cowboys havent had since Canty, you got a first round talent in Harris and a great cornerback in Roc, trust me you just upgraded your defense big time
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 5, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
oh man
just a quick clarification, does this mean Mario won’t ever get back on the line and rush from the hand-down position off the edge?? IF that’s true, i HATE moving him off the line permanently. If this is a ’let’s move him around and mask our blitz packages’ and let’s be ‘creative and versatile’ on defense…then Wade might be onto something…but at the moment, I’m VERY skeptical about the transition.
No, doesn't mean that
In the pure 3-4? I can see some rotation/match-up plays by moving Mario around. Mario will be a DE in passing situations, though, when we go to a true four man front.
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you watched the cowboys recently?
The WOLB role Ware is in is just another DE who generally (but not always) lines up standing at the line. Phillips moved Ware all over though, put his hand on the ground sometimes, and created a lot of confusion.
oh ok
I never saw Ware w/ his hand on the ground that’s why I got a lil concerned w/ Wade’s philosophy w/ Mario. hmmm, ok, I guess if it worked for Wade w/ Ware, maybe it works w/ Mario??
Ware
sometimes he will drop and put his hand in the ground, but almost 85 percent of the time he is standing up
Mario is a great athlete like Ware, I am sure Mario will find a way to wreak havoc in a 3-4
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 5, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
One thing I'm concerned about with the Ware comparisions
Is that Ware is 6’4" and 262 pounds. Mario is nearly 6’7" and 290+ pounds. I just don’t know if Mario has the lateral quickness beyond 10 yards. I’m wondering if this is all a smokescreen. We gotta keep Peiton guessing for week 1 afterall.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
I remain skeptical as well.
Mario can’t hold a candle to Ware when it comes to agility; Ware’s 4.07 was incredible to the extent that no linebacker topped it until Von Miller showed up. Mario’s is in-line with other successful pass rushers, but the idea that “Mario can do anything Ware can do” is probably a stretch… Ware might be the best 3-4 player of this decade, though. I’d be content with a fraction of that sort of production.
Manning is a statute, so I don't see him turning any attempted getaway into anything over 10 yards
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Actually
Mario is quite Agile for his size…posting I think a 4.37 SS time, which is pretty good for a 290+ lbs man…..
With the 9th Pick Dallas Selects Tyron Smith...Romo Weeps in Joy, and Bennet says"I might get to go out in the Pass Pattern now!"
by I am Ironman!!! on May 6, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Gus Johnson is done with CBS! Who the fuck will call the texans game?
Who was the first to see a cow and think "I wonder what will happen if I squeeze these dangly things and drink whatever comes out?
The scary thing is that Theismann & Millen are available
I pray we aren’t subjected to that torture
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 5, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
dont even think that
if theismann calls texan games im watching the game with the mute on
by Ezekiel 25 17 on May 5, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
But that still doesn't cover who's gonna be on CBS to replace Gus
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 6, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Who cares who replaces him?
I’m more concerned who Gus Johnson replaces. That guy NEEDS to be calling NFL games.
ESPN is probably doing contract negotiations for MNF & college basketball with him right now
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 7, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care who comments... I hope they are a texan hater so they are quiet... as we go 3-1 the first four games.
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
We will average less than 21 points per game to opponents this season... and give up less than 300 yds per game...
If they get a shutdown corner and these guys live up to their potential
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
I like the move,
But why didn’t we draft Rahim Moore at FS instead of Brooks Reed at OLB… We still need another safety if I am correct.
Reed & Barwin will be competing for the SOLB spot
LB Depth was still necessary, and they were set on moving Quin to FS. Carmichael or Jason Allen could be moved to Safety as well
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on May 7, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Glover Quinn will be the new FS.
We will sign through FA a new CB and probably another SS.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Keo and Quin should handle the Safeties
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Just heard on the Texans website.
Wade clarified that he’s basically a DE in a 5-2 because he won’t be dropping into coverage.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
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