Underrated Texans Center Chris Myers Getting Recognition Today
by TexansDC on Jun 10, 2011 2:15 PM CDT
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PrintEarlier today on SB Nation Houston, I talked about Pro Football Focus’ pass protection rankings. Your Houston Texans were ranked eighth in the NFL on keeping ol’ Matt Schaub clean.
In the article, which you can click and read here, I remarked that it wasn’t surprising that PFF praised
Clayton revealed his highly anticipated All-Underrated Team today. Who was his starting center, you ask
Both Clayton and [ESPN.com AFC South blogger] Paul Kuharsky note that scouts tell them Myers is underrated and good at what Kubiak and his offensive coordinator ask him to do. One bad replay aside, I tend to agree. Myers isn’t going to bulldoze anyone, but he’s as good as anyone in the middle (not named Nick Mangold). Like most Texans linemen, Myers is a highly effective screen blocker. The Texans excelled in runs up the middle and Myers, off the top of my head since I don't have PFF access, generally doesn't allow too many guys to get in Schaub's face. All in all, Myers is not recognized enough for his play in the middle.
Being the Internet, we simply can't just agree with what the media says. We have to ask the question: Do you, faithful Texans fan who watches every single game, think Myers is even the most underrated player on the team? Or is someone else deserving of that title?
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Very much deserved
We all give him a ton of flack. Get that Kris Jenkins play out of your head, and the guy has been solid.
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by AllenOU on Jun 10, 2011 2:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It certainly is among the better Rick Smith deals
A 6th rounder for Myers wasn’t too shabby at all.
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He came from the Broncos
Of course it worked.
Needs more nose tackle.
no he was a center.
he was given a high offer by houston and denver had too many other needs to keep him
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jun 12, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
This is incredible!
I was just reading Clayton’s story naming Myers to the Starting Team and popped back to BRB and there’s TDC’s thingy! This is a great honor for Myers. He has reached the big-time!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Is this just a poorly disguised way of saying "I saw it first".
I have told you before, I am onto you!
/squints eys
;)
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Schlauton strikes again!
Actually,no, it’s a way for me to say I saw it second.
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Ok.....
/points fingers at eyes and then at you
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myers has been MUCH improved
but to me, i think its OD..hes easily shaubs #2 after dre, the way he works the middle, finds a way to get open as well as make SPECTACUALAR catches..hes always moving the chains, and at the end of the day, actually does a decent job of blocking..
my misspelling has no bounds
i cant even spell my QBs name right
In that case
You get a “C” in spelling :)
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 10, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How is Owen Daniels in any way underrated?
If you’re going to go that way, I vote Andre as the most underrated player because people still exist that think he’s not the best WR in the game.
by Karsh on Jun 10, 2011 2:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
ok maybe i missed the mark
because this write up is more linemen, but to me OD is somewhere around 6th or 7th best TE in the league.. i think outside of Texans fans ud be hard pressed to find someone who agrees there. going to Claytons write he has brent celek as the most underrated TE and hes no where near the impact on his team that OD is on ours..if we had the real OD standing up last year i can easily see 2-3 more wins, so yea..hes underrated
OD is not under-rated, IMO
He rates very high. I think you over-rate him.
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if i over rate him
thats kinda explaining y i think hes underrated..the gap between the #6 TE vs the #15 is much more then say the 6th vs 15 wr, rb..im not sure what ur “rates very high” means but after dallas clark, theres not a better route running and receiving TE then OD..to me when hes healty hes a top tier TE which is y im sayin hes under rated..the season he got hurt he was on pace for some redic stats of over 90 catches and 1100 yards and 11 TDs..saying hes a middle of the pack TE is under rating him IMO
I think...
Most people have Daniels as a top 10 TE in the league when healthy, whether they’re Houston Texans fans or not… people do know about the guy and in general think he’s pretty good…
Not very many people would argue with you that Daniels is a good TE, but there have been quite a few that have labeled Myers not even starter caliber at center… I think that’s probably why most wouldn’t consider Daniels being even in the running for most underated on our team… Sure maybe if he’s healthy he could be a top 5 TE instead of somewhere between 5-10 that most people seem to have him… but even if that were true and you could somehow prove it… being considered one of the ten best players in the world at your position… well it’s usually an indication that people rate you fairly high.
People that do fantasy football, which is many
know who OD is, and would want him on their team…. not considering his injuries. As a matter of fact, recently Schaubby made the top of the injury-prone list. OD, probably should have made it and not Schaubby.
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OMG!
I said that EXACT same thing today to a co-worker. He asked me who I thought was the most under-rated offensive player in the NFL, and I said Andre ’cause Larry Fitzgerald still seems to get the most press. Freaky!
Larry's press
has went down allot ever since Kurt retired man…
Self declared Texans fan,and by no means am I joking
I'm still not a Myers fan.
So many big DTs in the league now, and Myers has always had a hard time with them.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
You cant deny that he has improved
Every center in the league, except maybe mangold, has trouble with huge NTs. We could do alot worse
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by AllenOU on Jun 10, 2011 3:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You're right.
I can’t deny any of that.
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close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Jun 10, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If Myers was asked to only block NTs or blitzing linebackers
He would not be close to deserving a spot on this list. However, a lot of his job involves getting to the second level and sealing off linebackers. That’s where he is the most effective, imo.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jun 12, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
No doubt
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jun 12, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice to see him get his due
and it’s always good to see the O line get some love. PFF’s pass protection ratings made me proud. Football is still won/lost on the line of scrimmage if you ask me and we have one of the most underrated O lines in the league. I think overall, they are one of the best. Then again, PFF’s ratings also showed how freakin’ amazing Peyton is:P
Great, timely post!
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
this is very true
we went from loudly being always mentioned as the worst line in the league to now quietly being mentioned as one of the best..3rd best passing and 1st in rushing yards..its really amazing to think about how much improvement our line has made
oops, forgot to answer the question
not sure who is most underrated on the team, but I think it has to be one of the interior O linemen. Myers sounds close enough, but they do work as a unit.
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For underrated Texans
My money is on Glover Quin. If only because he spared us the horror of Brice McCain, starting CB (mostly).
Needs more nose tackle.
Honestly
I kind of think Quin is possibly overrated a bit. He seems to get a lot of credit the same way that Diles once did for being a fairly low round draft pick, not totally sucking, and he tries really hard!! At the end of the day though he was an average corner at the very best…, hopefully he’s a better safety as the coaches are saying he could be. But I wouldn’t say he’s underrated, I think in general people give him credit more for what he’s not than what he is.
I think many are seeing potential in Glover Quin
I agree he gets probably more attention than he deserves. He has not played at such a high level all the time. But, he does have potential. And, I think it’s Texans’ fans that rate him high. One reason might be for the lack of potential from the other players.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Meyer had a great year last year
I am glad he gets the credit. We bashed him the year before and pretty much deservedly so. I think it is great when a guy can improve so much and I am glad he is a Texan.
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
Do I agree?
Look at my name for crying out loud.
Rag doll? More like brick fuckin' wall, bro.
by The Chris Myers Fan Club on Jun 10, 2011 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Rec - just cause
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 10, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Kidding aside though
I really do think Myers is underrated, same goes for Wade Smith. In fact, I cut all the fingers off of my right handed gloves just to be like Chris. http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wbwBdS4TUsg/Indianapolis+Colts+v+Houston+Texans/ffFDhZXtnsA/Chris+Myers
Rag doll? More like brick fuckin' wall, bro.
by The Chris Myers Fan Club on Jun 10, 2011 5:22 PM CDT reply actions
I'm going to throw a curve ball into the mix.
Matt Schaub. People still seem to see him as an injury prone middle of the pack QB even though he hasn’t missed a game in two years and has been in the top 5 in passing stats for the past two years. But thanks to the stupidity of ESPN, people blame him for every loss the Texans have.
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by Jon Banks on Jun 10, 2011 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Definitely agree
Rag doll? More like brick fuckin' wall, bro.
by The Chris Myers Fan Club on Jun 10, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too
Hopefully this will change with some playoff appearances. Some of the knuckleheads in the top 100 above him pretty much prove this point.
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 10, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Kubiak is about 99% responsible for Schaub's success.
by Nashmeister on Jun 10, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Andre Johnson disagrees
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 10, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
...only with the exaggerrated percentage.
But Kubiak has definitely optimized the performance of these weapons. He’s even responsible for so much of Andre’s success.
That’s right, I’ll go there: Kubiak is the most underrated Texan. Player, or otherwise.
by Cut Block on Jun 11, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
you just blew my mind
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 11, 2011 9:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's on him
/queue the obligatory dead horse beating
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So goddamn true.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jun 12, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
On another site, ESPN
a competing list of under-rated players, broken down by division
Myers, is the Texans rep on this list, too.
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actually, no, but I see it takes you to the same place
my bad
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Two points worth making.
1. Chris Myers was healthy 2010. In 2009 he endured a season with a high ankle sprain suffered in camp. That’s a tough guy move. Experienced injured guy better option than backup.
2. Eric Winston told me that Myers was not at fault for what happen with the infamous Kris Jenkins play. He declined to point fingers other than saying that Myers got a bad rap for that.
That maybe true
And since it’s coming from you I believe it.
BUT… It looked awfully bad when it happened, and that’s an image we will not get out of our heads anytime soon
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by AllenOU on Jun 11, 2011 12:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, the YouTube was pretty nasty bad
But yeah, that was a subject we talked a bit about. Something was supposed to happen with that play that didn’t happen. Winston wouldn’t spill but said not to put everything on Myers.
Hmmm
I’m trying real hard to figure this out watching the replay. Everyone is man blocking so it’s hard to tell. If one of them was supposed to double Jenkins then it would’ve left someone unblocked on either side.
The only one standing there with a stupid look on his face is Slaton. It’s obvious his assignment is pass protection but he drifts to the right and only reacts to the blown play when it’s too late. My guess is it was his responsibility to help double Jenkins, or at the very least chip block him, but apparently he didn’t want anything to do with that. Could be one of the many reasons why Slaton stayed in Kubiak’s dog house. He almost got teh Schaub killed there.
Still, Meyers wound up on his ass pretty damn fast.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
If Myers could just raise his ass off the turf more than 9", I would be on board with this over-rated crap
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it would be, but still 9" is a long way to stoop to receive a hike... and on bad knees...
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Anyone over 30
Shit I’m 28 and my knees are fucked
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by AllenOU on Jun 11, 2011 12:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
it doesnt matter
Everyone knows that when the Texans found out Frank Bush was a evil spawn sent from hell to sabotage the Texans 2010 campaign to displease the Football Gods they sucked out his soul and it was fed to each member of the offense to heal them since the draft had to be dedicated to the defense to undo the blasphemy Bush had commited and his soul-less corpse was forced to roam the Earth as a member of the Titans coaching staff. Dre and Schaub ate a shitload of Frank Bushs soul so theyre def good for the next few seasons, at least.
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 11, 2011 9:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Still would like Myers to raise his ass, a few inches even....
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I would like to get it down to the inch if possible
Can someone run out onto the field with a tape measure and confirm this, please?
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Between Chris Meyers and KW
People still give KW crap for being “slow” and “not a true” #2. he fits our system, he’s got the hands of a God and he’s gritty. Before I start ranting om to how " there’s no such thing as a universal ‘normal/basic’ playbook or formation" everyone has something different that makes it standout from other forms of the system.
But let me say also why mr. Meyers deserves it. If I remember correctly he has played sub 300 this year. That’s INCREDIBLE for an olineman. Plus I have seen him hold his own and he’s very smart. He’s also got that chip. Not sure if y’all have ever had that chip on the shoulder but it can take control of you.
Houston Texans:
1st Round: J.J. Watt (NT)
2nd Round: Ras-I Dowling/Brandon Harris (CB)
3rd Round: Mark Herzlich (ILB)
4th Round: Shiloh Keo (S)
5th Round: Chris Carter (OLB)
6th Round: Alex Henery (P/K)
7th Round: Stephen Burton (WR)
by CCBach on Jun 12, 2011 12:23 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
You could make a very good argument for KW being the most underrated on the team
So underrated, in fact, that Schaub even forgets about him for games at a time.
Also, Joel Dreessen doesn’t get enough love, imo.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jun 12, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Calling someone underrated is a personal thing
There is no stat for being underrated.
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Not true
This past week I was underrated on 23 different occasions, it’s the NFL’s fault for not keeping score for its players is all.
I once heard that Football Outsiders has an "underrated" metric.
Maybe someone with a subscription could confirm?…
I'm sure they do
Pretty sure they also have a metric proving beyond a shadow of a doubt which 3rd string QB with 0 game reps had the most productive season last year, and another one showing the best QB without a single pass attempt for the entire decade.
And...
One showing the best pass rushing corner back…
One pointing to the best RB in 2nd and 25 situations with his team trailing by 40 or more points…
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jun 12, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not keeping score on reply fails, but I think you'ld be vastly underrated
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I was shocked by your presence on these here boards
after announcing your extended furlough from these here boards, I am finger-tied.
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Hey!
Have you been following the BESFs and their love affair with rookie QB Jake Locker this offseason? Be interested to get your reading on that situation.
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Seriously? What's to know?
Raw quarterback, extremely unpromising roster, plus historically ineffective coaches all over their coaching staff. Conclusion? If the BESFs start Locker, they finish 4th in the division. Or, perhaps they start Vodka Collins? In that case, they finish in a three way tie for 2nd place. Naturally.
I know that you seemed to like Christian Ponder somewhat. Any thoughts on him and the Vikes?
The Vikes' players reportedly like Ponder as do the BESFs like Locker
I think they both have promise. I’m asking about Locker, because you really talked him up prior to him being drafted by the BESFs. Or, was that just window dressing? He was savior to the Skins before the draft. Is he just someone who is going to fall flat on his ass with the BESFs, now?
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I also like both QBs a great deal.
I never said Locker would be anyone’s saviour, exactly. The kid obviously needs a good “QB whisperer” to polish him up a bit. Does Tennessee have someone to bring him along?
Hell, recent history shows that they can’t even get a marginal passing attack going with a vet QB, let alone begin to develop an amateur with serious flaws (see: VY). No, I just don’t like that landing spot for Locker. I won’t say it will never work, but I could also think of 28 or 29 healthier situations for him to have landed.
It's not a good situation
But, if he’s worth his salt, he will succeed. VY was not. I give him a fair shot at succeeding there. He has a good RB to lean on, even though he’s a headcase.
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Yeah, but the near term looks so bleak for Nashville.
I could definitely see Munchak protecting him with their running game, more often than not… and, of course, sitting him this year is an avenue they might explore.
Locker presents a nice opportunity for Chris Palmer, I believe. Dave Carr was always going to be a lost cause for him (or anyone else, for that matter), and Tim Couch wasn’t that much better.
I’m fairly sure that Locker will immediately be capable of pitching/handing-off. Otherwise, he needs some mechanical tweaks, and like any rookie QB, his decision making needs honing. Actually, he appeared to be a very reckless (gutsy?) college QB. I could see some early injury struggles for him in Tenn. Also, some mental frustrations. That staff has to be on queue in the near term.
Yes, Locker’s potential is vast, but what can we realistically expect from that team this season? A clusterfuck of epic magnitude?
I wouldn't compare him to anyone until I see him in the BESF offense
I’m not guaranteeing anything, except the guy has some talent and I think he’s the best Pro QB in the draft.
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I was actually hearing SportsRadio610 say Kevin Walter was overrated
I don’t agree
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