Texans Secondary: The Great Unknowns
In our never-ending quest to solve the riddles of last season's defense, let's take a look at the secondary. I know it's painful and there are still questions in the much sexier front seven, but at least we have the personnel for the front seven on the roster (true NT notwithstanding). The secondary, on the other hand (actually it's on Hanson's shriveled, little hand from Scary Movie 2), has more question marks than the Battle Red Bag.
We do know a lot of the names that are currently on the roster and the names of those we would like to see on the roster (even if we can't spell all of them). But we don't know who will be in the eventual lineup and who will play which positions. To quote former Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, "There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know." Who knew he was such a Texans fan and so in tune with our defensive needs? Take the jump and wander (or should I say wonder?) with me and the real Donald through the knowns and unknowns of the Texans secondary.
So what are the "known knowns"? We know Houston's pass defense ranked dead last in the NFL last season, giving up 267.5 yards per game. We also know they made less-than-average to average QBs look stellar: Mark Sanchez, David Garrard, Tim Tebow, Bruce Gradkowski, Kerry Collins, and Matt Cassel all posted 100+ QB ratings against the Texans last season. (Sorry to the other QBs for lumping them in with Sanchez.)
Last season the Texans had Glover Quin as the #1 CB and Kareem Jackson as the #2 CB, while Jason Allen, Brice McCain, Sherrick McManis, Antwuan Molden, and Karl Paymah provided depth. In the draft, we added cornerbacks Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael in the 2nd and 4th rounds, respectively. Last season, the starting free safety was Eugene Wilson (he fooled someone into believing it), and Bernard Pollard started at strong safety. Wilson was cut after Wade was hired, and Pollard is a free agent who hasn't been tendered an offer. While Pollard was good at stopping the run, Wade needs safeties that can cover, so he had to go and he'll be missed. Eugene Wilson was good at blowing coverages and missing tackles, so he should have never been here and he will only be missed by opposing quarterbacks. Last year's depth at safety included: Troy Nolan, Dominique Barber, Torri Williams, Quintin Demps, and Antonio Baker. Shiloh Keo was added in the 5th round of this year's draft.
This brings us to the first of our "known unknowns": Which positions will these guys play next season? Let's start at the corners and work our way in. We know that Glover Quin was our best CB last season because Kubiak was quoted saying so in March. Granted, this happened while he was explaining that it might not be in the team's best interest to move him to free safety, even though scouts, coaches, media-types and fans have been suggesting that move since he was drafted in 2009. In all fairness to Kubiak, he was pointing out that Quin was the only competent corner on the roster and barring the addition of new talent, he fills a bigger hole by staying at corner.
What a difference a few months and another perspective make. Earlier this month, when Wade Phillips was asked about Quin, he said, "His best abilities would be at safety, and we're going to look at that." Fans (and Wade) hope Quin can move to free safety to plug the huge hole that was never filled by Eugene Wilson. (Damn, by typing his name a third time I just enabled someone to catch a pass and evade a tackle somewhere in the universe.) However, as Kubiak pointed out before, the Texans must secure both CB spots before making that move.
Some could rightfully argue that Wade's statement is just a subtle shift in language from what has been said before. But like others, I think this means Wade has already penciled Quin in at free safety. Sure, he won't make final position and roster choices until he's had a chance to evaluate everyone in training camp, but to go forward he must have some kind of roadmap for where his new defense is headed...especially where it pertains to obtaining new personnel. I think Wade has recognized a few immutable facts in his new employment situation that are guiding how he maps out the future of the Texans' D:
Wade's Axioms of Texans Truth
- Smith and McNair are hard to squeeze free agents from.
- Smith and Kubiak cannot evaluate defensive talent.
- Although Quin was the best CB on the roster, he isn't a great CB.
- Since Wade's systems tend to require at least one great man-to-man corner, you better get one out of free agency.
- Whatever free agent help a coach is lucky enough to get out of Smith/McNair will inversely impact his ability to extract anything else from Smith/McNair.
- Quin will make a better free safety. Not only better than he was as a CB, but also better than any free agent free safety you will likely get from Smith/McNair after getting that great CB (see Axiom #5).
- If you are lucky enough to get that great free agent CB and insist on a SS as well, then you better prepare for a mediocre SS like Gerald Sensabaugh. (Just tell everyone he already knows the playbook you haven't written yet.)
- After landing that great CB and mediocre SS, you better not even think about asking for a 2-gap NT in free agency! (Just tell everyone you love Earl Mitchell's motor and respect Shaun Cody's experience.)
Given these conditions, who can blame Wade for penciling in Quin at FS? Or for convincing Smith to trade up for Brandon Harris and grabbing Roc Carmichael and Shiloh Keo in the draft? Assuming Wade squeezes his great, man-to-man cornerback out of Smith (whomever that happens to be has already been discussed ad nauseum); who mans the other corner? We know that last year's first round answer to Dunta Robinson is quick and competitive, but lacks "deep" speed (according to Wade). That might explain why KJax was targeted 94 times, gave up 50 completions, and surrendered the second most yards of any defensive back in the NFL last season. In KJax's defense, he did give up only four touchdowns, while five of his teammates gave up more. See? He is competitive. We also know that new defensive backs coach Vance Joseph thinks that KJax "needs a lot of work on his man-to-man technique" and makes a better zone corner. Considering Wade's penchant for using man-to-man coverage schemes, this is a troubling revelation about a potential starting CB. On the bright side, Wade and Vance think KJax has a lot of "coachable" problems. Whew!
We also know Joseph likes him some Jason Allen at corner. He told Nick Scurfield in a May 26th interview on the Texans' official website, "He made some plays. That guy does some things that make you really, really excited. I'm looking forward to him playing corner for an entire training camp. Because his entire career, he's been in between safety and corner. I want to see him play corner and see how good he can be. He was a first-round pick out of college, so somebody saw something in the guy. He can play. He just needs more corner reps. He's got long arms, he's tall, he can run. So we'll see." Somebody sounds like they got a man crush while watching all that video. Maybe Allen will be Miami's Travis Johnson...
Vance also seems high on Brice McCain and Sherrick McManis. "I like Brice," Joseph said. "I watched every practice from last year, camp and the fall, and watching the one-on-one stuff, Brice was one of our better one-on-one players from playing press and playing off-man. He's got a unique skill which is speed that we can always use. And McManis is a tough guy. That's his unique quality, and toughness wins games. Speed wins games. So those qualities are definitely going to be used. I like both of those guys."
Besides the "unique skill which is speed" line, that sounded like good stuff. (I'm still not sure what the speed line means about the secondary as a whole.) Maybe the secondary depth is not as bad as we thought? Maybe Frank Bush was the whole problem. Or maybe Joseph is just putting on a good face for the official team website. Then again, I wouldn't want to be Antwaun Molden's agent after Joseph summed him up by saying, "He's a gifted enough guy, and I'm hoping the light comes on." I'm guessing that's one guy not likely to grab that CB2 spot. Assuming the CB2 is someone from the current roster, I would bet on Allen winning out over KJax at this point. But I would still consider this a known unknown.
Speaking of known uknowns, it sounds like Vance is well aware of Rick Smith's reluctance to sign top-end talent for the secondary and is sifting through the ashes desperate to find something to be positive about. He said this about safety, Troy Nolan: "He's a guy who's capable of doing it right. That's important." Sounds like somebody is really hoping for Wade's 7th Axiom to come true, or maybe he's hoping the 5th round pick, Shiloh Keo, can take the job. Joseph told Scurfield, "Keo, I'm assuming after we get him here, you're going to want two or three more like him." That sounds to me like code for, "He's going to be a great special teamer!" I'm going with Wade's 7th Axiom here: Sensabaugh as starting SS and Nolan backs him up. Yeah, still a known unknown.
That takes care of the starters in the base set: Free Agent X at CB1; KJax/Allen/? at CB2; Quin at FS and Sensabaugh at SS. However, the nickel and dime corners will be pretty damn important as well. Listen to what Vance Joseph said about the two corners Wade selected in the draft: "Brandon Harris is going to be a pro from day one. And I think Roc's going to be fine. He's a competitive little guy. He wants to be great." Combine those assessments (yes, that is déjà vu) with Wade's 2nd Axiom, and I doubt Antwuan Molden or Karl Paymah make the roster. I'm guessing Brandon Harris for the nickel spot and Roc Carmichael for the dime.
But this is definitely an "unknown unknown" area. What if Allen, Harris or Carmichael take the CB2 job? I could see that happening and KJax would probably end up as the nickel. Or maybe Wade sees all those zone skills and lack of deep speed as reasons to have him backup Quin at FS. That might save one of the CBs on the bubble, but would increase the number of safeties that have to be cut. Either way, I'm guessing Torri Williams, Quintin Demps and Antonio Baker are the safeties on the outs. Then again, we're definitely getting into some serious unknown unknowns here... so, what do I know?
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2-gap NT
Why do we keep talking about a technique that isn’t used in Wade’s system?
“ZOMG we need fatso in middle” is getting really old. Lets let Wade do his thing and stop pretending you know an iota of what he does about HIS defense.
cuz it's funny
I’ve written extensively about the gap assignments in Wade’s systems: http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/5/20/2181540/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-elephant
Even if I don’t know an iota, I’m not stopping Wade from doing anything and I love Earl Mitchell’s motor. Now stop pretending you know what I wrote and go read!
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by Still Blue on Jun 2, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Are you referring to the part of one sentence in the first paragraph?
Did you read the whole thing? NT is not what this was about. It was a one-liner, as in a joke about NT. You wrote more about it than the writer did. I wrote more about it than the writer did. He wrote three words and that is all you can think about and comment on? NT! Ha! NT! Hahahahaha!
NT! Hahahahaha!
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Moar NT!
I wish I could get Christopher Walken to record “More nose tackle” for my next post. Thanks for helping the needy, Rip:)
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It would rock
To get Christopher Walken to say anything about the Texans!
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 3, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Kareem will be the CB#2 for a couple of games
with him eventually losing the spot to Jason Allen because of his lack of deep speed. I think by the end of the season, Brandon Harris will play so well that fans will want him to start at CB#2, resulting in him and allen competing for the CB#2 when the next season starts.
so in your scenario, who is CB #1
allen 1, harris 2, k jax as the nickel, with roc playing A LOT…
this should be by week 8, but i would start off like this, crazy as it sounds
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
and this assumes yalls assumption doesnt happen
meaning the FA CB we bring in is NOT a #1 guy
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
Hes answering the question as presented by the writer
where we grab a beast CB1 and a competent SS
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-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I get that. but if it isnt nhamdi, and the CBA rule is still 6 years for UFA
who will that be?
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
Josh Wilson maybe
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jun 2, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Who also happens to be a decent return man
Relatively
Needs more nose tackle.
Well, I think the poll was based off of signing a CB#1
so I kinda went with that
i get it
Im just curious of the names yall want to throw out
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
I would go with Johnathan Joseph as the next best option
I’m still a bit irky about Ike Taylor because I feel he was a result of a good pittsburgh D.
Joseph
is only a UFA if the CBA changes from 6 to 4 years of service.
he is my dream scenario though, so good call
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Yeah after Nnamdi and Cromartie
it gets a bit hazy for me under the 6 year rule. I don’t see any of those other CB’s as #1’s and you definitely have to wonder whether Allen may take the CB#1 job. Based on what the secondary coach has said, Kareem is better as a nickel since he’s better at playing zone.
this isnt fair youre changing the rules
we didnt have to think before!
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
the only UFA guys
carlos rodgers, cromartie, ike taylor, richard marshall.
I dont think anyone here wants part of ronde barber.
cromartie is surely a #1, but we wont touch him.
the other three IN MY MIND arent true #1s, and the closet one, ike taylor, benefits from the steelers front seven and TROY A LOT
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
chris carr, josh wilson, d florence, or eric wright arent #1 guys
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
I think bfd and others have lobbied for Josh Wilson
and Id take any of those guys to be honest
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Speaking as a Seahawks fan,
I was sad to see Josh Wilson leave, and judging by how bad the Hawks secondary was, they probably wish they hadn’t gotten rid of him.
I would love to see him playing in Houston.
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by UprootedTexan on Jun 2, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I just don't see Baltimore letting him walk
especially if he wants to return to Baltimore too.
some of the names we have talked about before
J Joseph
Ike Taylor
C Rogers
Cromatrie (based on Cushings persuasion skills)
Josh Wilson
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
BUT
are ANY of them #1 CBs?
Ill give you cromartie, but not the other ones.
They are BETTER than what we have FOR SURE, but not #1 guys on a playoff team
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
Are we trying to go from incompetent to a top 10 secondary?
If thats the case then if we dont land Asomaugh or Joseph were fucked. If we are trying to have a middle of the road secondary you dont need a top 5 CB to do it.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I mean the Lions are middle of the road
with Chris Houston and Nate Vasher
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
and both are better than what we have.
I dont think we are getting a top 5 guy, but we need someone who is FOR SURE better than every current CB we have.
scrabble, joseph, cromartie, and MAYBE carlos rodgers could be that guy.
I have faith in jason allen. Guy works hard, has speed, and was the 16th overall pick for a reason. he should flourish under wade
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by AllenOU on Jun 2, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
One thing for sure...
the change of scenery definitely helped him.
I'm worried
that Rick will look at K-Jax and Allen and think; “hey, they were both 1st round picks so they have to be good at some point”. That may be true, but we need them to be great in 2011. If they become great in 2012, 2013 it will be under the mentoring of a couple of rock stars that we need to sign now.
I actually think Allen will have some great games this year and develop quickly, but we’ve got to get a killer CB on the field or our new exciting front seven are going to come up with a lot of sub-second “almost sacks” as NFL QB’s get the quick release into our weakest positions.
Right, but noth of them are NOT as good as Cromartie, Joseph or Ike Taylor
and Richard Marshall is nice, much better than those guys.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Only knock on Carlos is that he has terrible hands.
He’s good at mirroring a receiver but once the ball is in the air, he doesn’t make a play on the ball.
rec'd for the truth
Especially this part: “I dont think we are getting a top 5 guy, but we need someone who is FOR SURE better than every current CB we have.”
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
If I was settling, I'd be ok with a mediocre secondary
At least a mediocre secondary can hold the pass long give enough time for front seven to make a play. How our defense gave up more points than our offense could score was just pitiful and it’s even more pitiful that an ok defense can actually put us in the hunt for a playoff spot.
we are close to being mediocre in the secondary
if we add ONLY sensabough we would be.
id rather have sensabough and santana moss than sensabough and josh wilson
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself
Not to switch from a focus of secondary
in this thread to WR’s, but did any of you hear that crap on the radio yesterday (610 Sports Radio) about how the Texans should consider Plaxico Burress?!! Two years in the big house and they think Bob would put him in our locker room? No way.
Santana Moss is getting up there in years, but he may still have one season in him. I heard other crazy rumors about T.O. or Ocho Cinco, and as bad as they would be for the locker room, it would be a pretty legit thing to have them line up with A.J. until we can draft a solid WR next year. Hopefully we are targeting a WR and QB in next year’s draft to start the process of building the next decade of killer offense.
Someone should address this question to MDC's Malebag, maybe....
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The good news is that..
next year’s WR class seems pretty deep. Alshon Jeffrey, Justin Blackmon, Jeff Fuller, Ryan Broyles, and Michael Floyd are all very good prospects and first round talents.
If the Texans don't make the playoffs
then yeah, we are definitely looking of at least Jeff Fuller. Alshon Jeffrey seems like the least likely WR to be available unless we are picking in the top 5. If we do make the playoffs, we may be looking at Ryan Broyles or Michael Floyd though Floyd has DUI red flags that the FO won’t ignore. Floyd has first round talent but character concerns might hurt his draft status.
Unless the guy is a physical freak
I think the Texans FO probably views WRs similar to how they view RBs. You can find one in the mid rounds.
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Haha with this FO, it seems they feel that way about all positions besides TE, CB, DE, and DT
I mean since our expansion, we’ve taken 3 DEs, 2 DTs, 2 CBs, 1 LB, 1 WR, 1 QB and 1 OT in the first round. Clearly safety and nose tackle are positions we continue to ignore while TE’s are drafted like they are the single most important players on Def or Off
He's no DeAngelo Hall
That’s for sure
Needs more nose tackle.
Assuming we don't land an elite free agent CB
I think by the start of next season our #1 corner will be Jason Allen, #2 Brandon Harris (he showed some pretty good cover skills at the combine, and I don’t think his lack of ideal size will hurt him too much when he’s playing opposite a corner who can cover the other team’s bigger WR), with McCain and Carmichael competing for #3… Kareem Jackson probably just doesn’t fit this defensive scheme well enough to get the kind of playing time you’d expect from a 1st round pick.
I hope you're not right
but if we don’t land an upgrade CB in FA, then I think those will be the #1 and #2 CBs eventually. Something tells me Harris’ football IQ helps offset his smaller stature… and then some. If that happens and it works, watch for Rick Smith to claim that he went out and got a #1CB in free agency.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Well ultimately
I think Phillips has the right of it… If you have a dominant front 7 that can shut down the run and provide a solid pass rush, then both of your safeties are able to drop into coverage which would cut out alot of those big pass plays… Also the increased pass rush will shorten the time QBs have to find an open reciever… I expect if our front 7 does its job, then our secondary is going to look A LOT better than they did last year, regardless of who’s playing.
by Bryan72076 on Jun 2, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hope you're right
It only makes sense that improved run coverage and pass rush will result in better pass protection. At least, it should decrease the number of big plays which simply crushed the Texans last season. I don’t have figures, just remember the feelings of watching other teams make huge plays on third and long that kept drives alive and either resulted in eventual scores or just kept the Texans defense on the field and their offense off the field. That was a killer!
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Also
I think as nervous as everyone is about WIlliams playing OLB, if it works it’s really going to work… I mean, no offensive coordinator is going to want a 290 lbs Williams running unblocked at their QB, that’s not just risking the game but the entire season. You’re going to see a lot of shifts to account for Williams, leaving Barwin/Reed pretty much unblocked on the other side. Then teams are going to have to respect both OLB positions by playing more max protect sets, which will REALLY help out the secondary.
Getting Barwin healthy and the addition of the rookies, Watt and Reed
certainly adds to the ability to move Williams to this position. With what they had last season, I don’t know if they could have done it.
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Yeah the Mario Williams move is a high risk with potential high reward if it works.
On paper, our front seven looks beastly but there’s a lot of football knowledge to be transferred. If the front seven can keep pressure, our secondary could look very good. I call that the Ike Taylor effect, though, when I see Brandon Harris’s combine, highlights and games he played, the guy looks like a legit #2.
I know it's totally biased
But I truly believe that in the next few years we could field one of the more dominant OLB tandems since Taylor/Banks.. and maybe if we’re really lucky Watt being a Leonard Marshall.
well said
I not only hope you’re right on this point, I’m pretty convinced that’s what is going to happen. The greater the pass rush, the less bad the secondary will be. And I foresee mucho pass rush. Does that mean we will have to give credit to Smith when he says he got us our free agent CB even if it’s Allen?
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
There's nothing like
A Jason Allen v. K-Jax debate to get you fired up about next season.
Needs more nose tackle.
I'm not pulling ANY punches!
I was determined to write about the secondary without mentioning the lockout or that corner’s name I can’t spell. Mission Accomplished! Oh wait…
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I would cream my sheets
if we got Sensabaugh and a beast man2man CB1. This is totally best case scenario for us isnt it?
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-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 2, 2011 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
best imaginable
We might as well enjoy it before our dreams are dashed by reality! Who knew Sensabaugh is our savior? And considering the fans knee-jerk reactions to the mere suggestion of drafting another CB in the 1st round, who knew Brandon Harris would be the favored starter at CB2 (at least that’s what the poll shows currently)? Then again, Joseph did say he is a “pro”…
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yea, but...
Rick Smith is weaker, so we set our sights low around here;)
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I don't think they go for a SS
They get another FS – Wade’s D doesn’t use the classic SS as a position. It is more twin safeties. Just get a FS that can hit.
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 3, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Great article! I think from history
we’ll all be terribly frustrated that Rick Smith fails to go sign a big time CB#1. Our dreams of “Scrabble” will be dashed against the sharp pile of rocks at the bottom of the FA waterfall yet again. He’ll feel pressure from us for his failure to bring a big name in at corner and then respond with a presser where he declares; “We feel we had a very successful defensively focused draft, and a lot of existing talent that just needed a stronger scheme and technique work that Wade and his staff will bring for immediate impact.” Translation….“we’ll fix it in house” (business as usual, nothing new here).


by MeMongo on Jun 2, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
This is what I really expect to happen
They will proclaim Allen is our “experienced DB1” and Kareem and Harris will fight it out for #2
But if miracles happen and it goes in the scenario presented, I think Allen starts out the season as CB#2 while they groom Kareem and Harris. Whoever wins that battle will start by seasons end and maybe they move Allen to a swing corner/safety role.
thanks and your scenario...
is the one I’m still in denial about, but I’m afraid will probably come to pass. Originally, I started writing this and I had Allen and Jackson at the corners based on the very logical premise you presented. That was depressing, so I decided to imagine that Wade knows something we don’t, like being promised a CB1 in free agency. Then I couldn’t stop myself from adding Sensabaugh. Oh the things we do during a lockout…
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I left my keys in my car?
And I swore I wasn’t going to use the “L” word today… damn.
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You need to call
D locksmith
(see what I did there)
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lol
He’ll just tell me to pick up an undrafted FA lockpick…
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Good luck picking a car's lock
A slim jim is better
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 3, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
just like Smith...
to suggest the wrong tool for the job:P
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ISWYDT
Double meaning and all :)
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 4, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're mistaken about Wade's secondary scheming.
I’m positive he runs extensive zone coverages; I believe he’s said it explicitly.
Welcome to Houston, J.J. Watt, Brooks Reed, Brandon Harris, Rashad Carmichael, Shiloh Keo, T.J. Yates, Derek Newton, and Cheta Ozougwu!
you're probably right
It was getting late and I was having trouble finding any specific info about his coverage schemes, so I made an assumption. I thought I heard before that he uses man-to-man coverage in his base set, but even if my assumption were correct it won’t matter as much as what he uses in the passing packages. Thanks for reading and for catching that I made an ass of myself.
Anyone have a link to Wade explaining his coverage schemes? So does this mean KJax is good to go now?
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this sounds familiar
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=BFC44FB0-9B8C-DFA5-EA2901786DE71D97
Apparently, he matches his coverage to the talent (like he does everything else). So I guess it’s going to be the bump-n-fall down scheme with KJax starting at CB1!
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Nevermind, I was correct after all
According to Bryan Broaddus at ESPN (and ESPN is never ever wrong):
“Despite lacking a running game and a playmaking tight end and having some banged-up wide receivers, Manning still presented a challenge to a Dallas defense that was making the transformation from Wade Phillips’ blitzing, man-coverage style to Paul Pasqualoni’s zone coverage and assignment-first scheme.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4675419/scout%E2%80%99s-eye-cowboys-colts-review
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Wade will work both in
but if you’re gonna be as aggressive up front as he is….then you better have some back-end talent that can hold its own….be it man or zone.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I think you hit the nail on the head
From what I’m reading now, he does use both (apparently the ratio depends on the horses he’s got as usual). No matter what coverage he favors though, Wade’s gonna need one more CB better than anyone currently on the roster in my opinion. Sorry to krkenny if I sounded snarky, especially since he brought up a a good point.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
That "unique talent of speed" line absolutley killed me!
by Carter Liles on Jun 2, 2011 2:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
it sure had me scratching my head
I couldn’t decide if it was an indictment of the Texans secondary or DBs league-wide. Maybe Brice is the fastest thing Joseph has ever seen in Texas? Who knows, but it sure sounded funny. Thanks for reading and for commenting!
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
"The Great Unknowns"
I think that could catch on, SB. I really do. I will keep this in mind for later. Obviously, the unit has to play good to earn this kind of nickname. Otherwise, they become “The Great Undoings.” But, “The Great Unknowns” would be earned if they play well enough to help the team get to the playoffs.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
My first draft title was pretty bad...
“Texans Secondary: Known Knowns, Known Unknowns and Unknown Unknowns” Which would’ve eaten up all my pre-jump space. I really like The Great Undoings… that could be the title of the Official Texans Team History.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
I voted
for Kareem Jackson since I think his lofty draft position will make him the defacto CB2 starter. However I hope that it ends up being someone else.
I'm the best there is at what I do.
who says he lacks deep speed?
He sure is closing in on Harris now…
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Someone should be more careful with those admin controls...
oops, sorry. The nub writer accidentally hid some posts. They all should be visible again. Sorry about that.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Ahhh, that's where they went
I emailed and alerted Tim about you…. really, I did.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I'm a baaad man
seriously, I’m really bad with power. Goes right to my head and it’s already waay too crowded in there with the voices and all…
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Tim responded
He says you’ll have to hide some of your voices, Nooooo-oooooooo!!!!!!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
some of them prefer that
but seriously, I have no idea how I did that earlier. Well, I’m using someone else’s computer at the moment and the mouse keeps double-clicking when I single-click it… so maybe that has something to do with it.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Ewe really shouldn't have done that
Meow I’m about to get very ruff on the puns
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jun 2, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
now, the top two stories have meow comments.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
How to Video, by "Scrabble": the man, the myth, the legend
the guy Rick Smith and Bob McNair damn well better hand a blank check to 21 seconds into Free Agency! Dear K-Jax, please watch this video if you want to have a future…
You get a Rec
For this – and I haven’t even finished reading the article
Sorry to the other QBs for lumping them in with Sanchez
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
I think the Texans should sign Nandi Asomugha and instead of moving Glover Quin to safety they should move Jason Allen because he has basically been back and forth between safety and cornerback since college. Allen was a former 1st round pick that I think could be just what we need at safety. In Wade’s system the safeties have to be able to cover and they are basically interchangeable so, to maximize the amount of talent that we have in the secondary I think we should move both Glover Quin and Jason Allen to safety, sign and start Nandi Asomugha, and pray that Kareem Jackson lives up to his 1st round drafting and plays a lot better at the number 2 cornerback position. I feel that the 2 cornerbacks that we drafted will be great at the nickel and dime cornerback spots
I really love this concept a lot.
Very well thought out and very logical. We just absolutely have to have the guts to sign Scrabble.

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